Linux-Misc Digest #636, Volume #25 Thu, 31 Aug 00 21:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: file access lists on linux ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: #@$%@#$% Linux modules...... (Peter Mitchell)
Re: Linux Mail Server (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Headless X86 Linux system (Peter Mitchell)
Re: Improve X performance, how? ("Matt O'Toole")
Re: Linux Mail Server (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option. (Christopher Wong)
Re: tar Files (kristian ragndahl)
Re: Port forwarding on RedHat 6.2 ????? (Akira Yamanita)
Re: tar Files (Peter Rodriguez)
Re: Zip 100 & RedHat 6.2 (Slip Gun)
Re: Netscape is the best web brower for Linux? Where is the alternative? ("Marcus
Urban")
Re: Two versions of the same package hanging up my system (Garry Knight)
Re: Red Hat rescue and init level (Garry Knight)
Re: Tcpdump, monitoring! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Mkisofs: How to create an empty ISO9660 image (Dave Brown)
Re: sunrpc on port 111 (ljb)
Anybody Wanna Fuck My Virgin Whiteboy Ass? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: tranfering boot/root disk to higher capacity format ("mrauscher")
Re: Restaurant Booking System (Christopher Browne)
Re: Howto: A simle command line mail program (David Rysdam)
Re: Tcpdump, monitoring! ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file access lists on linux
Date: 31 Aug 2000 23:06:43 GMT
Christopher Hahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I am looking for a Linux equivalent for the Solaris File Access List
: utilities "setfacl" and "getfacl"
try setfacl and getfacl, after installing the acl suite and patch.
: Basically, I am looking for a way to allow a simple user to run a
: bash script as root, and apparently the setuid switch works
man sudo. man suidperl, blah blah. Isn't this a faq?
: on binaries but not scripts. (Trust me, I tried it).
And did you also try running a one line suid C program that calls the
script?
: TIA for any ideas,
Surely 2 or 3 nanoseconds thought would be sufficient for you to come
up with a host of answers on your own ...
Peter
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: #@$%@#$% Linux modules......
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:59:29 -0700
I suspect you get the message because the modules are not
used by the kernal, which therefore does not have the
symbols for them. I get similar messages for a stack of
modules I have left out of my system.
I don't know where the list of things is that is checked
during startup. You can alway trace through the startup
files to find out. I haven't bothered because the screenful
of startup error messages has no other effect, and is not
enough to bother about. I would suspect that (if you have a
RH distribution) the sysinit script probably is the relevant
one.
Peter
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 01:22:28 +0200
Uhhm neither Linux nor FreeBSD or any other Unix system can hold 500.000 mailboxes
and therefor users.
The password wile can only handle 64K on users. thats no 500000 users!
Raymond
Phil wrote:
> Dustin Puryear -[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]- spewed forth the following rubbish:
> >On 28 Aug 2000 13:28:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil) wrote:
> >>
> >>Not necessarily, I've heard of a guy over in the Netherlands running postfix
> >>(ok it's FreeBSD so I'm cheating a small bit) on a standalone box with 500,000
> >>users.
> >
> >I assume you mean he is running Postfix on FreeBSD and not that
> >Postfix only runs on FreeBSD since I have Postfix running quite nicely
> >on Linux (and SCO OSR5).
>
> Yes, considering the guy was talking about Linux, talking about postfix
> running on FreeBSD is cheating a small bit. I see no reason why Linux couldn't
> do the same, but anyways, a standalone box for a mail server is probably
> impractical, especially for that many users
> Phil.
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From: Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 16:14:33 -0700
Thanks for the clarification on su and su -. It looks as
though I should read 'man' more often. :)
For your home headless system, which distribution did you
use, do you have a video card in the box, and is there
anything you needed to do to get it all up with all the
Linux startup messages coming through the remote machines?
Peter
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Reply-To: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Matt O'Toole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Improve X performance, how?
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 14:47:44 -0700
"The Darkener" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> One of the most important questions you need to answer is: What
windowmanager am
> I using?
>
> KDE and GNome are very graphics intensive/memory takers, as others such as
> Blackbox/twm are very light on resources and make X behave much faster.
I'm a KDE user, and pretty well settled on that.
> Also, what version of Xfree86 are you running? Pre-4.0? 4.x is supposed to
cut
> memory usage in half, afaik. It should improve the performance very well.
I'm running whatver came with Mandrake 7.0, which is pre-4.0. I'll upgrade
eventually. What I am most interested in is whether I should buy new video
cards for my Pentium I machines, or if upgrading to PII/III/Celeron machines
will help more (or not much).
Matt O.
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Mail Server
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 01:38:30 +0200
I am completly ammused by people pointing to sever SMTP MTA's without
seeing the big picture (except for the last person).
500000 user accounts is almost impossible (specially on linux it stops ad
user account 65535).
Imagine the amount of diskspace you need and teh ammount of INodes.
I think you are way out of your league with Linux. Now you are only
talking about SMTP what about pop3 which is a real resource hog when it
comes to collecting mail! 1 systems is not enough!
Raymond
Jason Ng wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's the best mail server for Linux? I would like to support a large
> population... above 500, 000. Any comments?
>
> Regards,
> Jason
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Wong)
Subject: Re: Netscape Sucks, I need another option.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:40:32 GMT
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000 15:22:43 -0700, D G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Christopher Wong wrote:
>>
>> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Dan wrote:
>> >Christopher Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >
>> >> When Mozilla advocates say Mozilla is fast, they generally mean the
>> >> rendering speed. The UI, of course, is slow as a banana slug. Yechh.
>> >
>> >This just tells me you have never seen an angry banana slug charging
>> >at you in excess of 100mph. ;)
>>
>> There is no such thing as a banana slug.
>
>Tell that to UC Santa Cruz.
Oops, I stand corrected. I suppose I owe banana slugs everywhere an
apology for associating them with something as slow as Mozilla. :-)
Chris
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From: kristian ragndahl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar Files
Date: 31 Aug 2000 23:06:31 GMT
>>>>> "DT" == Dave T <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
DT> if the tar file was test1.tar then tar -xf test1.tar
DT> This will decompress the file and create all sub-directories.
Decompress?
--
kristian ragndahl, http://www.ragndahl.cx/
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From: Akira Yamanita <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux.questions,linux.redhat.list
Subject: Re: Port forwarding on RedHat 6.2 ?????
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 23:53:24 GMT
Akira Yamanita wrote:
>
> Maybe it should be:
> /sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQ
> /sbin/ipchains -I input -p tcp --dport 80 -j MASQ
Whoops, I meant:
/sbin/ipchains -A forward -s 10.0.0.0/255.255.255.0 -j MASQ
/sbin/ipchains -I input -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT
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Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 11:19:34 +1200
From: Peter Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tar Files
Type man tar
--
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Auckland, NEW ZEALAND
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From: Slip Gun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Zip 100 & RedHat 6.2
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 01:07:26 +0000
Peter Rodriguez wrote:
>
> NDQ wrote:
>
> > Peter Rodriguez wrote:
> > >
> > > I have got an Iomega Zip 100 (Parallel version) running perfectly under
> > > RedHat 6.0 with a line added to .bash_profile - " modprobe imm >&
> > > /dev/null " However on another machine running RedHat 6.2, this doesn't
> > > work. Any ideas, anybody?
> >
> > Which error when you try :
> > $ modprobe imm
> >
> > ????
>
> I get
>
> imm : Version 2.03 (for Linux 2.0.0)
> scsi : 0 hosts.
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/imm.o : init_module : Device or resource busy
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/imm.o : insmod
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/imm.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/scsi/imm.o : insmod imm failed
>
> --
On the 6.2 machine, assuming that you are using the same zip drive, do
you have the following modules?
scsi_mod.o (or scsi.o)
sd_mod.o (or sd.o)
parport.o
parport_pc.o (I find it necessary to call parport_pc like this:
# insmod parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7 )
imm.o (although you may need ppa.o, if you are using a different zip
drive).
Check in /lib/modules/<kernel-version> for the above.
If you don't have the above, compile them as modules.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Ed
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From: "Marcus Urban" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape is the best web brower for Linux? Where is the alternative?
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:11:39 GMT
In article <8om8p6$kv8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Gareth Williams"
> The latest version of Netscape (no, not 6.0 beta/aka Mozilla), i.e. 4.75
> hasn't caused me any problems at all yet. I've left Java disabled just
> in case, but who needs Java all the time? I suggest if you want a good
> graphical browser with all the features upgrade to Netscape 4.75.
Every version of Netscape I've tried, even 4.74 and 4.75 has serious problems
with Java. In fact, it crashes about every 5-10 minutes when running some
chat room applets. By constrast, if a bit of detective work, I was able to run
the applet in question directly through the jdk appletviewer, and the applet
never crashes, even when running for a day or two.
Until Mozilla (NS 6.0) gets Java working (or KDE2 is available), Linux does not
have a reliable Java-enabled web browser.
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two versions of the same package hanging up my system
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 00:39:27 +0100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I accidentally (don't know how anymore) installed two versions of
>MandrakeUpdate on my machine. Now anything that has to do with rpm on
>that machine leads to a complete lockup.
[...]
> RPM from the command line hangs up the system
>in a way described before. So, can I get rid of MandrakeUpdate manually
>somehow or in any other way?
I believe the rpm command simply removes all of the files that were installed.
The MandrakeUpdate package seems to consist of 33 files as shown by 'rpm -ql
MandrakeUpdate'. You could try deleting those files (or moving them somewhere
else temporarily), then running 'rpm --rebuilddb' to rebuild the database.
Maybe that will get rid of both entries. If so, you can reinstall
MandrakeUpdate from the CD.
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Red Hat rescue and init level
Date: Fri, 1 Sep 2000 00:51:23 +0100
Amir Sadri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello all,
>
>In an attempt to rescue my corrupted Red Hat Linux installation I typed
>rescue at the boot prompt and inserted the rescue disk when I was asked
>to. The system continued to boot and root file system was mounted in
>read-only mode but it halted with a message like: "Kernel panic: can't
>find the init level in the kernel. Please use init= .....".
>
>I tried typing "rescue init=3" at the boot prompt but it didn't help.
>the same story.
I wouldn't try rescuing a system in runlevel 3, I'd go for single user.
>Does anybody know how to pass the init level to the rescue process?
Just a guess, as I can't find anything on this, but did you try "rescue 1"?
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Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Tcpdump, monitoring!
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:08:21 GMT
In article <Ybvr5.112275$Kw2.934468@flipper>,
"Sjoerd Langkemper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "Kaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I use Tcpdump today but do not realy know howto use it.
> > Could anyone tell me how i should do to monitor a pc's intenet
traffic?
> > Maybe give me a example script or someting.
> > I'm using a gateway.
>
> START OF EXAMPLE SCRIPT
> /usr/sbin/tcpdump
> END OF EXAMPLE SCRIPT
Obviously this was crafted by an incompetent. This how it
should be done and keeps with the Unix philosophy.
===================== cut here ========================
#!/bin/sh
$1
# end of script
===================== cut here ========================
Cut on dotted line and save as RUN.
chmod 755 RUN
Usage:
./RUN tcpdump
./RUN ls
To experiment with recursion try "RUN RUN". See how versatile
this implementation is.
"Nobody likes a smart-ass."
Title of a stage play in The French Quarter.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Mkisofs: How to create an empty ISO9660 image
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 31 Aug 2000 19:15:30 -0500
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Otto Wyss wrote:
>I've gone twice through mkisofs its help but still haven't checked how
>to create an empty 650MB ISO image possibly with Joliet and RockRidge
>extensions. I'd like to mount this image through the loop device.
>
>O. Wyss
I presume the problem is that if you do a mksiofs of an empty directory,
the image you get is quite small. Then if you mount it, the loop device
doesn't allow the size to increase... I don't remember if this is the
case
I'm not sure how you might do this. I think I might experiment with
creating a 650 mb file with all zeros in it (using dd and /dev/zero,
specifying a block size and count). Then put that in a directory by
itself and doing a mkisofs of that directory. That will get you the
size that you want. Then you should be able to mount it and erase the
650 file you created and replace it with stuff you want to be in the
image....
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (ljb)
Subject: Re: sunrpc on port 111
Date: 1 Sep 2000 00:24:34 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>What is the purpose of this daemon on port 111?
It's the portmapper (rpc.portmap), part of the Sun RPC (Remote Procedure
Call) system. It maps RPC services running on your system to their port
numbers. You need it mostly for NFS and NIS; if you don't use either of
them you probably don't need it.
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From: "mrauscher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: tranfering boot/root disk to higher capacity format
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:40:10 -0700
Hmmm... I think this is a case me knowing just enough to be dangerous. I
should have included a disclaimer in my posting that "although, I extracted
the process outlined from the Bootdisk-howto, that's no guarantee that I
interpreted correctly." One thing I realized, following your comments, is
that the Bootdisk-howto doesn't really address using initrd, only ramdisks,
and I mistakenly assumed these to be the same. I'll checkout the sample from
the link you provided and hopefully go from there.
I obviously have a lot to learn re: the boot process. Thanx for the help...
I might be back for more.
mrauscher
Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8ojtc7$de4$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> It's been a while since I made a ramdisk, but ...
>
> mrauscher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : #copy all files from the original boot disk to the HD
> : cp -r /mnt/floppy/* /tmp/olddisk
> : #format the new disk
> : fdformat /dev/fd0u1680
> : #copy the kernel to the disk
> : dd if=/tmp/olddisk/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k
> : #set the root device
> : rdev /dev/fd0 /dev/fd0
> : #set root R/W
> : rdev -R /dev/fd0 0
> : #set the RAM disk word
> : rdev -r /dev/fd0 16819
> : #copy the root fs
> : dd if=/rmp/olddisk/initrd.gz of=/dev/fd0 bs=1k seek=435
>
> What you have looks vaguely plausible, except that you don't seem to me
> to have told the kernel where to look properly. The magic you are using
> is not something I can make sense of, but it may be so. See
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/initrd.txt and
> <ftp://elserv.ffm.fgan.de/pub/linux/loadlin-1.6/initrd-example.tgz>
> for what really to do.
>
> You want the kernel to boot the ramdisk image. AFAIR I always did that
> by just putting a kernel on one diskette (or on the hard disk) and
> compiling it with initrd inside and ramdisk stuff. I used lilo to
> boot the kernel and I think I put the usual
> mini fs on the diskette, with a /etc /boot and /dev, and in the
> lilo.conf put initrd=/boot/initrd.gz. I tend to use e2fs for the FS,
> but you can use anything that the kernel supports.
>
> You might have to use root=/dev/ram to make the ramdisk your root fs.
>
> Where did you get hold of the incantations above? I don't see anything
> like them in the bootdisk howto.
>
> Peter
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.suse,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Restaurant Booking System
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2000 00:44:30 GMT
Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Ian Briggs would say:
>Darren Paxton wrote:
>:I work for a restaurant chain based in Glasgow, Scotland, and we would like
>:to introduce some form of online restaurant booking system to our website.
>
>I have vague memories of seeing some kind of pizza-shop software -- I
>think at Linuxberg or somewhere like that. I've no idea what it does.
The "Pizza app" was for managing pizza shop _sales_. Probably of
limited usefulness to what is essentially a scheduling application.
I don't think there's any "generic" web-based booking system for
restaurants yet, not as free software, anyways.
--
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Rysdam)
Subject: Re: Howto: A simle command line mail program
Date: 1 Sep 2000 00:05:07 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Check out nbsmtp on freshmeat. It's a utility I wrote that functions
as a simple, outgoing-only smtp server. Give it a text file that is
formatted as an email and off it goes.
And [EMAIL PROTECTED] Spoke:
>Is there a simple "command line" mail program that makes it possible to send mail
>directly to an externel smtp server without having to setup anything besides the
>program
>itself, maybe something like it's done in lids. Here I just have to specify the name
>of the
>externel smtp server, the username, the password and everything works. I need the
>mail program
>to auto send messages, loginfo, system status etc. and I do not want the big sendmail
>program.
>
>If you think there is a better way to have a linux server mail me status info,
>through the
>internet, please let me know.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Bo Jacobsen
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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tcpdump, monitoring!
Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 19:51:53 -0500
On Thu, 31 Aug 2000, Prasanth A. Kumar quoth:
~~ Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 17:09:03 GMT
~~ From: Prasanth A. Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
~~ Subject: Re: Tcpdump, monitoring!
~~
~~ "Kaj" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
~~
~~ > I use Tcpdump today but do not realy know howto use it.
~~ > Could anyone tell me how i should do to monitor a pc's intenet traffic?
~~ > Maybe give me a example script or someting.
~~ > I'm using a gateway.
~~ >
~~ > Thanx
~~
~~ There are lots of more user friendly GUI programs if that suits you
~~ better. This includes stuff like 'Ether Ape', 'Ethereal' and
~~ 'iptraf'. My favorite is 'Ethereal'.
Ditto, also Ethereal can read 'tcpdump -w' files.
anm
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