Linux-Misc Digest #679, Volume #25                Wed, 6 Sep 00 09:13:03 EDT

Contents:
  Re: IP address stealing on Intranet (M. Buchenrieder)
  partition ("Naresh B. Koneru")
  Re: modprobe cant find char-major-4? (Frank Steiner)
  Re: Simple BBS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: partition (Frank Steiner)
  Re: can linux box mount drive of a winx9x box? (Frank Steiner)
  Re: Talk problem in linux (Frank Steiner)
  rpm disaster ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  app. handling pedigrees  ?? ("hans eric")
  Re: rpm disaster ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: IP address stealing on Intranet (Kenny A. Chaffin)
  Re: Is delphi5 good for linux? (Thomas Luzat)
  ~user  www directories needed ("psybertech")
  Enlightenment? ("Erik Fryman")
  Re: dev-files (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  Re: SMP Performance? (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  Re: disabling rlogind and others (-ljl-)
  Newbie chmod question... (Jeffrey Hood)
  Re: Netscape problems (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)
  Re: Newbie chmod question... (Doug O'Leary)
  Re: can linux box mount drive of a winx9x box? (aflinsch)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (M. Buchenrieder)
Subject: Re: IP address stealing on Intranet
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 06:08:51 GMT

"kipz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>Let people surf the web as much as they like. Who are they harming?

Hard to tell without any details. But who cares? If that's a management
decision, he'll have to find a way to resolve this.

>I urge everybody in this group to with-hold any help to this person if
>it will be used to restrict peoples access to the web.

Nonsense. There's no human right to web access. After all, this is
a highly expensive tool, and somebody does have to pay the phone
bills, huh? 

>K.
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> Hello,
>>
>> We have an intranet with about a hundred machines. Internet usage
>> accounted based on usage of SQUID (which counted on IP address).
>> Some people change their IP address to other which belong to someone
>> who are on vacation.
>>
>> How can catch this IP address stealing?

One possible way to do is would be logging the MAC addresses of the 
various workstatios connecting to the Squid server, and compare
the output of the logfiles with a precompiled listing of MAC
and IP addresses as given out by your network administrator.

Michael
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          Lumber Cartel Unit #456 (TINLC) & Official Netscum
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From: "Naresh B. Koneru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: partition
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 15:50:26 +0530

Hi all,

I have a WIN95 system with whole of the disk10GB for primary partion only.
how can I make a partition of say 2GB for RedHat6.2 from the 10GB windows95
disk ie I have only C drive.

Are there any tools or is FDISK sufficient.

Thanx in advance

Naresh



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From: Frank Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modprobe cant find char-major-4?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:37:22 +0200

In my modules.conf I have

alias char-major-4        serial
alias char-major-5        serial

so char-major-4 seems to be the first serial port. Maybe either
the module serial.o is missing, or the serial port is disabled
in the bios or set to an unusual I/O range? This is just a guess...
I remember I had this problem once and I think it disappeared after
I reinstalled the modules.

Best,
Frank
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Lehrstuhl f. Programmiersprachen   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Simple BBS
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 10:30:25 GMT

In article <8p46tc$bn2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  "[WarLocK]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Im looking to setup a simple bbs
> > with an extra 56k modem iv got kicking around
> > (the good ol days when i had a multi node
bbs, miss them days ;o)--*
> >
> > All i need is to have callers prompted with
login: password: etc
> > Ill setup a guest account with bare minimum
access right's.
> >
> > Anyways, if someone could give me a rought
draft on a quick lesson
> > on how to do this, examples etc, i would be
greatly appreaciated.
> >
> > Btw, to quickly outline my system.
> >
> > box 1 = win2k pro (net gateway 1)
> > box 2 = experimental box for freebsd / novel
> > box 3 = redhat 6.2 BBS ?
> >
> > its a small lan, but my goal is to restart my
old bbs backup,
> > something very simple, to have callers login,
and access
> > telnet,ftp,irc,email,lynx and be routed to
the net.
> >
> > nothing special just a simple auto answer
single ttyS2 node.
> >
> > Thank You in Advanced.
> >
> > (an old bbs sysop from the 80's)
> >
> > may the door games live.........
>
> Ah the wonderfull days of bulletin boards, the
power of the sysop... LORD :)
> all nice till the big bad internet stole all my
users....


I agree, but there's an answer.

EleBBS runs in windows, os/2 and linux, which I
belive is also handled thru BSD, (elf binary)

http://www.elebbs.com

I would presume the best support for this
software is found on the mailing list . found on
the website.

but there's an irc server network being built
slowly for BBS Hobbyists and supporters.

irc.thebbs.org (do a /links when you get there
and get a couple of differnt server names, ..
this network is experimental but soon to be
standardized)


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From: Frank Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: partition
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:39:22 +0200

FDISK isnot sufficient, because it would destroy your primary =

partition completely to create a second one. There are tools
like PartitionMagic,  but even some shareware tools. One is
called fips and worked great for me. If you can't find it
in the internet, mail me and I send you the file as attachment.

Best,
Frank

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Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lehrstuhl f. Programmiersprachen   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CAU Kiel, Olshausenstra=DFe 40       Phone: +49 431 880-7265, Fax: -7613
D-24098 Kiel, Germany              http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst=
/

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From: Frank Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: can linux box mount drive of a winx9x box?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:42:07 +0200

David Efflandt wrote:
> =

> On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 00:05:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w=
rote:
> >win9x box can share drive with each other,
> >win9x box can share file from linux box via samba,
> >linux box can mount drive with each other,
> >can linux box mount drive of a winx9x box?
> =

> Yes, smbmount.  When my cdrom started to fail on an old Linux box I was=

> playing around with at work, I simply smbmount'd the cdrom of my Win95 =
PC.
 =

Hmm, you don't need smbmount. Just try  "mount -t vfat /dev/whatever".

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Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lehrstuhl f. Programmiersprachen   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CAU Kiel, Olshausenstra=DFe 40       Phone: +49 431 880-7265, Fax: -7613
D-24098 Kiel, Germany              http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst=
/

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From: Frank Steiner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Talk problem in linux
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:44:44 +0200

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 =

> In trying to use "talk" on my Mandrake 7.0 system I got an error
> message that said:  "[Error or read from talk daemon:Connection refused=

> (111)]".  Can anyone explain to me what that error is and how it can be=

> fixed?
 =

You need an entry in your /etc/inetd.conf like

talk    dgram   udp     wait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  in.talkd

Does that exist? Also make sure that you don't have firewall skript
running that blocks port 111 (sun remote procedure). Although
I wonder why it needs 111 because talk should run on 517...

Best,
Frank
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Dipl.-Inform. Frank Steiner        mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Lehrstuhl f. Programmiersprachen   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CAU Kiel, Olshausenstra=DFe 40       Phone: +49 431 880-7265, Fax: -7613
D-24098 Kiel, Germany              http://www.informatik.uni-kiel.de/~fst=
/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: rpm disaster
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 11:22:36 +0100 (BST)

I am using a red hat 6.2 system and was having problems with rpm
trying to install a particular package, the solution to which seemed
to be to upgrade rpm itself. I downloaded the rpm version 4.0 rpm and
used rpm -U to upgrade which seemed to go fine. The problems that
I now have is that rpm seems to have lost track of ALL the currently 
installed rpms so I am now unable to cleanly upgrade any package
because all the dependency checks fail. The /var/lib/rpm directory
still seems to contain the appropriate files, its as tho' rpm is
ignoring them or is unable to read them.

Anyone have any suggestions for getting it back to some sensible
state ? I notice their is an rpm --initdb command but I haven't tried
it yet incase it wipes out what is allready there.

-- 
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From: "hans eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: app. handling pedigrees  ??
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 12:44:08 +0100

Hi!
My hobby is dogs and I�m managing all sorts of activities in the terrier
community on a non-profit hobby basis. Now I am looking for an (database)
application for handling the pedigree of dogs. Is there such an X-app. for
Linux?
Any application for handling pedigrees of other animals (horses, cows etc.)
will do fine as well.

Thanks for your help
Hans Eric



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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rpm disaster
Date: 6 Sep 2000 10:58:46 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Anyone have any suggestions for getting it back to some sensible
: state ? I notice their is an rpm --initdb command but I haven't tried
: it yet incase it wipes out what is allready there.

Back it up before trying.

And complain to the rpm packager. Or send him a bug report, whichever
is more appropriate.

Peter

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kenny A. Chaffin)
Subject: Re: IP address stealing on Intranet
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 05:27:24 -0600

In article <1S6t5.34206$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Hey kipz,
> 
> kipz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Let people surf the web as much as they like. Who are they harming?
> > I urge everybody in this group to with-hold any help to this person if
> > it will be used to restrict peoples access to the web.
> > K.
> 
> Unfortunately, it's rarely ever that simple.  The assumption here is that
> this guy is the one who wants to restrict web access to the employees.  Far
> more likely, it's management that wants to do that.  It's the same where I
> work... only certain employees are permitted web access.  If I were to go
> behind my boss's back and give everyone full Internet access, I would
> quickly find myself either reprimanded or fired for insubordination.  

I'd suggest you look for a new job.

KAC
-- 
KAC Website Design
Custom Programming, Web Design, and Graphics
[EMAIL PROTECTED]    -     http://www.kacweb.com

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From: Thomas Luzat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is delphi5 good for linux?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 14:01:36 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 00:11:18 -0400, "Manuel Jander Jansen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Kylix is supposed to be released this year. Its a Deplhi/C++
>enviroment, just like the windows version for Linux.
>Personally i have used Delphi for several years, and its 
>a delicatesse. I had some tries on VB too, but sincerely,

I currently have to use it (Delphi) a bit and it's getting on my
nerves. The missing language features (compared to C++ and other OO
languages) such as MI and templates make programming a pita IMHO. :)

>it made me puke and do headbanging against the screen.
>VB just sucks, when it comes to serious programming.

VB is mainly used for RAD of front-ends and clients, which is serious,
too. It might of course matter if you want to write Linux
applications, too. Kylix will introduce a new class library as I have
heard which will replace (?) VCL on Windows, too. Thus learning the
depths of VCL now will probably not help too much later. Correct me if
I'm wrong...

>Delphi is much more consistent and structured, that makes
>programming much easier; more than ever when you have 
>reached 10.000 lines of total source code :P

Heh, with 10 KLOC you are still at a very small project. :-)
(Or is that a joke:  10.000 = 10 ? :P)

Cheers,
Thomas

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From: "psybertech" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ~user  www directories needed
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:16:34 GMT

I am using apache as my web server and i have received requests from users
for
their own /home/httpd/html/~username directories. How is this achieved
whilst giving them cgi-perl, servlets access too.
Thanks.
K.



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From: "Erik Fryman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Enlightenment?
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:26:23 -0400

I have seen the enlightenment desktop manager and I would be interested in
trying it. I'm completely new to Linux so I really don't know what is
involved in installing it. Can someone tell me how to download and install
(I'm runnung Caldera OpenLinux  eDesktop 2.4)




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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dev-files
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:41:17 -0400

"Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:

> On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Jean-David Beyer-valinux quoth:
>
> ~~ Date: Tue, 05 Sep 2000 06:20:27 -0400
> ~~ From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
> ~~ Subject: Re: dev-files
> ~~
> ~~ "Andrew N. McGuire" wrote:
> ~~
> ~~ > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, m quoth:
> ~~ >
> ~~ > ~~ Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 15:21:35 +0100
> ~~ > ~~ From: m <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ~~ > ~~ Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.misc
> ~~ > ~~ Subject: dev-files
> ~~ > ~~
> ~~ > ~~ Hi,
> ~~ > ~~
> ~~ > ~~ i backuped my linux but i forgot to save my /dev - directory.
> ~~ > ~~ when i installed a minimal installation of my distribution, it installed the
> ~~ > ~~ devs - package and i got several dev-files back.
> ~~ > ~~ then I extract my saved files and overwrite the new installation.
> ~~ >
> ~~ > There really should be no need to back up dev.
> ~~
> ~~ I think so. What if your hard drive(s) really crashed, so you bought and installed
> ~~ a new one? All the MKDEVs you did in the past are probably forgotten. If you have
> ~~ them backed up, you should be able to restore them.
> ~~
>
> I may have jumped the gun on this comment (used to Solaris), however
> if you are doing a complete reinstall, then I would think a half-way
> decent install program should detect your hardware and do a MKDEV
> as approriate (they may or may not, I don't know).  If for some reason
> you do not have to do a reinstall, then I would think if easier just
> to MAKEDEV hde, than to restore from tape (or whatever backup medium
> you use).  Again, on linux I am used to single drive systems, so I
> don't know for sure if installation programs detect extra drives or
> not...  On Solaris, I am used to 'drvconfig; disks' to add hard drives,
> so I may be spoiled on this point. :-(

On my old machine, I have a floppy-tape drive on its own floppy controller. The floppy
controller uses the same IRQ as the regular floppy controller.

1.) How would an install program detect that?
2.) How would it know that the device hidden behind the controller is a floppy tape
drive?
3.) How would it know that as a floppy tape device, it needed a different set of 
entries
in /dev than regular tape drive?

Lacking answers to those questions, how would it know what MAKEDEVs to use?

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 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  8:36am up 28 days, 16:04, 2 users, load average: 1.11, 1.11, 1.09




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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SMP Performance?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:48:55 -0400

John Hasler wrote:

> Jean-David Beyer-valinux writes:
> > Naturally. I run SETI@home at nice +19 in the background. If I do nothing
> > else, I use only 50% of the CPUs because it was designed to run on only
> > one processor and does not use much system time.
>
> Why run only one copy?  I run two on my dual Pentium-III and get 99%.
> --
> John Hasler
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
> Dancing Horse Hill
> Elmwood, WI

I have a shell script run regularly by cron that starts SETI@home if it is not
running (needed so that when I am away and a power failure occurs. My UPS does
an orderly shutdown, then reboots the machine when the machine comes back up.
If I am out of town, setiathome restarts within 1 to 2 hours), and dials up my
ISP, uploads the answers and downloads a new homework assignment, and
disconnects from my ISP (so that it can keep running when I am asleep or out
of town). I have not wished to trouble myself to see how to make it do this
for two different directories, or two different users. I guess going with two
different users is the way to go. But since it takes about 10 minutes of
connect time, and I already have two machines, one goes off from 13 to 24
minutes after the hour, and the other at 33 to 44 minutes after the hour. I
have only one telephone line for both computers. Were I to run both processors
on setiathome, I would have to find another window. Not impossible, but I
never got around to it. Not a really high priority for me. Do you nice both
yours to +19, or is one set to +18? And why?

How to you handle unattended operation?

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 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  8:42am up 28 days, 16:10, 2 users, load average: 1.15, 1.12, 1.09




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From: -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: disabling rlogind and others
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 12:52:00 GMT

In article <1H9t5.6555$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <-ljl-> wrote:
> >In article <8p2rvu$g0t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> In article <8p2qjm$ehf$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>   -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> > In article <8p0hnk$4l7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>>>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm trying to disable all unencrypted remote authorizations on
>>>>> my linux boxes, so I removed telnetd & ftpd from inetd.conf.
>>>>> In fact, I have nothing but comments in /etc/inetd.conf
>>>>> (I'm using sshd)
>
> Then why are you running inetd at all?
> Switch it off in your initialisation scripts/directories.

You are correct; if running Red Hat or derivative use 'chkconfig',
see "man 8 chkconfig", to taylor your system-services.  But this
doesn't protect one against inadvertently re-enabling a service.
Since most rc-files check for the existance of an executable before
trying to run it, renaming would hide it.  Probably the best solution
is to remove the unneeded file(s) altogether.  That way one is less
likely to accidently re-enable an undesired service/program.

The fewer things you have on a system, the less there is to watch.
--
Louis-ljl-{ Louis J. LaBash, Jr. }


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From: Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Newbie chmod question...
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 13:01:12 GMT

Is there a way to chmod -R 755 ./dir and only chmod the dirs, not the 
individual files ???

Thanks,

JH
-- 

Jeffrey Hood
Senior Analyst
Norsoft, Inc.
jhood [you-know-why] @epix.net

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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape problems
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 09:02:55 -0400

John Thompson wrote:

> Filipe Bonjour wrote:
> >
>
> > I'm using Netscape and I've recently upgraded to 4.74 in an attempt
> > to overcome a few problems I'm having with it, but in vain...
> > Could someone please help me?
> >
> > 1) Netscape always complains that it doesn't find "java40.jar",
> >    but it is in /usr/lib/netscape/java/classes, which is in the
> >    CLASSPATH variable. The file is readable and all directories
> >    leading to it are readable and executable.
>
> I haven't used v4.74, but I did get this problem with v4.75.  I
> never did resolve it, and have since reverted back to v4.73
> because Java flatly refused to function with v4.75. I hope
> somebody has a fix...
>
> --
>
> -John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

You might get better results with the secnews.netscape.com(secure)
server's Communicator for Unix newsgroup.

I used 4.74 and am now running Netscape 4.75. I have never gotten this
problem with 4.7 on. So something else must be the matter.

valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ locate java40.jar
/opt/netscape/java/classes/java40.jar
/opt/netscape/java/classes.old/java40.jar
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$  echo $MOZILLA_HOME
/opt/netscape
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$

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From: Doug O'Leary <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie chmod question...
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 08:07:11 -0700

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] says...
> Is there a way to chmod -R 755 ./dir and only chmod the dirs, not the 
> individual files ???

find . -type d -exec chmod 755 {} \;

HTH;

Doug

-- 
===================
Douglas K. O'Leary
Senior System Admin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: aflinsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: can linux box mount drive of a winx9x box?
Date: Wed, 06 Sep 2000 08:56:02 -0500

Frank Steiner wrote:
> 
> David Efflandt wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 06 Sep 2000 00:05:21 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >win9x box can share drive with each other,
> > >win9x box can share file from linux box via samba,
> > >linux box can mount drive with each other,
> > >can linux box mount drive of a winx9x box?
> >
> > Yes, smbmount.  When my cdrom started to fail on an old Linux box I was
> > playing around with at work, I simply smbmount'd the cdrom of my Win95 PC.
> 
> Hmm, you don't need smbmount. Just try  "mount -t vfat /dev/whatever".
> 

that won't work. It is a remote win98 box. He needs smbmount

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