Linux-Misc Digest #733, Volume #25               Mon, 11 Sep 00 10:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (D. Spider)
  Re: Origin of the GNOME name & logo ? ("Bartek Kostrzewa")
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (D. Spider)
  Re: SCSI bus question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: 2.2.17 & nfsd ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ("Ingemar Lundin")
  Re: Linux on TV! (sorry!) (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: 2.2.17 & nfsd ("Ross Goodley")
  Re: Problem with fopen under RedHat 6.2 (Kasper Dupont)
  Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port Drive (Michel TALON)
  soundblaster 128 pci setup help: kerenl 2.2.17 support? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  TCP port 947 ("Rodney Hendricks")
  Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem (Kasper Dupont)
  Re: Caching files from CD---problem when playing MP3s on CD (Kasper Dupont)
  Re: Don't mind me, just whining.. =)
  Re: cdrecord screwing up X? (Jehsom)
  Re: A Very Simple Question Concerning My Windows Disapearing Act
  '/dev/null: read-only filesystem' during boot (Francis Richards)
  Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem (Christopher Browne)
  Re: Drive Space in RH 6.0 (Jean-David Beyer-valinux)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Spider)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:11:42 GMT

It appears that on Sat, 9 Sep 2000 19:32:07 +0100, in
comp.os.linux.advocacy jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>jabali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
>>> Linux is currently the only end-user system alternative to windows on a PC 
>>> (IBM compatible in older terminology). Of course you also have Mac-OS.
>>
>>And what about BeOS? Or Net/open/FreeBSD? Or Hurd?
>>(OK, Hurd's not ready yet, but I here it sorta works ish).
>
>BeOS & FreeBSD are around for years. As OS they are certainly good. But as an
>alternative desktop to Windows - well, does anybody really take them that
>seriously ?

BeOS, despite it's potential, I don't see going anywhere. FreeBSD, on
the other hand... is every bit as viable as Linux. It's all basically
Unix, porting isn't hard, and most of the useful stuff is already
ported for you. Having the source code available makes all sorts of
things possible that simply aren't possible in the world of
binary-only software. 





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From: "Bartek Kostrzewa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Origin of the GNOME name & logo ?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:17:58 +0200

>
> No, It means Gnome is Not Only My Environment.

euhmm....

--
Bartek Kostrzewa - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<<< http://technoage.web.lu >>>




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (D. Spider)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:19:50 GMT

It appears that on Sat, 09 Sep 2000 14:44:06 -0500, in
comp.os.linux.advocacy Dave Martel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>On Sat, 09 Sep 2000 18:56:49 GMT, "Ingemar Lundin"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>you cant be for real...are you really pushing for a OS that has been
>>STONEDEATH!!! for at least 10 years now???
>
>The Amiga was WAY ahead of its time. A lot of people, including some
>of my friends, still use their old Amigas for daily work. There's a
>company somewhere in China still knocking off Amiga clones. Quite a

Really? Do they ship to the US? ;^)

>few people on Usenet have told me that they use an Amiga for video
>editing because it does the job better than PC's. I find that hard to
>believe but anyway it's what they claim. (I could be wrong, but isn't

Well, a new PC at this point has enough horsepower to keep up,
usually, but the design of the Amiga gave it a huge advantage on this
(with VidToaster hardware.) At the very least, it could do just as
well as a modern PC with a tiny fraction of the CPU power. 

>linux available for the Amiga, too?)

Probably. Amiga is available on Linux too, http://www.amiga.com/ look
for the SDK. 


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SCSI bus question
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:25:02 GMT

Leonard,

Do you get the error when the SCSI-card scans the bus at bootup?

Most SCSI problems are due to faulty termination and/or cable.
Or simply because the terminator is in the middle of the chain.
Since you stated that you've tried the scanner without the zip
drive, I would say that you should check the cable to the scanner.
If I remember correctly most scanners are terminated as default but
you may have to check with your manual.

Have you tried the scanner on another machine/os ?

Regards

Fredrik

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Leonard Evens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a Symbios SCSI adapter with two internal SCSI disks.
> I connected a HP PHotosmart scanner to the external SCSI
> port with an appropriate cable which went from 68 pin micro t
> 50 pin micro on the scanner.   When I boot, the system resets
> the SCSI bus several times in the process.   In particular
> after almost all the modules are started, I get (in
> /var/log/messages) a sequence of messages of the following type
>
> scsi : aborting command due to timeout : pid 22530, scsi0, channel 0,
id
> 1, lun 0 Read (6) 16 98 66 04 00
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: ncr53c8xx_abort: pid=22530
> serial_number=22549 serial_number_at_timeout=22549
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
> pid 22531, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Write (6) 00 00 42 02 00
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: ncr53c8xx_abort: pid=22531
> serial_number=22550 serial_number_at_timeout=22550
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
> pid 22532, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Write (6) 00 00 50 02 00
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: ncr53c8xx_abort: pid=22532
> serial_number=22551 serial_number_at_timeout=22551
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: scsi : aborting command due to timeout :
> pid 22533, scsi0, channel 0, id 1, lun 0 Write (6) 00 02 8a 02 00
> Sep 10 22:41:29 zaide kernel: ncr53c8xx_abort: pid=22533
> serial_number=22552 serial_number_at_timeout=22552
>
> which eventually time out and then booting completes.  The
> scanner was set with SCSI ID 2.
>
> I'm reluctant to use it this way because I am worried about the
> reliability of the SCSI bus under these circumstances.  Also,
> it takes a lot longer to boot.
>
> Can anyone explain to me what might be going on.  Is there some
> way I can fix it?
>
> I have been using this external SCSI port with an external SCSI
> zip drive without any problems, but for test purposes I didn't
> have the zip drive connected.  The zip drive has ID 6 and the
> same thing happens if I daisy chain scanner with the zip drive.
>
> --
>
> Leonard Evens      [EMAIL PROTECTED]      847-491-5537
> Dept. of Mathematics, Northwestern Univ., Evanston, IL 60208
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2.2.17 & nfsd
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:23:41 +0100
Reply-To: no_replyto@oursite

This message has been posted by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Ewart)

On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:21:07 +0100, Ross Goodley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Sorry if this is a bit obvious, (if so by all means tell me which FM I
>should R), gave my machine a shiny new 2.2.17 kernel this w/e, but
>attempting to run nfsd gives me ;-
>    nfssvc function undefined
>
>now i definitely enabled nfs support in make menuconfig, and yet plainly,
>looking in the nfsd subdirectory, no compilation has occurred in there
>(distinct lack of .o files) can some kind soul tell me what I have to enable
>in the config to get the little git back?

Fell into this trap myself.  

You need to enable NFS _Server_ support - to do this, you need to
switch on "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" in
"Code maturity level options".  The NFS server options will then appear
in the FileSystems / Network FileSystems section of the kernel config
..

Reason for above is that NFS server support is still, technically,
experimental.  Seems to work OK as far as I can see, though.

Sorted?

Dave.
-- 
Dave Ewart
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Computing Manager
ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK

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From: "Ingemar Lundin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:37:38 GMT


REALLY?

And what makes that Linux?

A shell, some scripts and a fistful of binaries?

/IL

> So is Windows 9x
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: Linux on TV! (sorry!)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:38:43 GMT

On Sun, 10 Sep 2000 22:31:02 -0400, Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>In a recent Linux Journal (i'd say about 4 issues ago, maybe more) an
>article was printed regarding this topic.  My memory may be incorrect
>but I think Carnegie Mellon University out of Pittsburgh, PA was doing
>the research on the project and of course they were using Linux to run
>the laptop that was in the car.

There was also a previous LJ article about an Italian university
project to have Linux drive a car. IIRC, Linux was driving the car on
Italian highways about 90% of the test time. The test lasted around 3
days, and covered a large distance and diverse driving conditions.

>Brandon
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>> Hi
>> 
>> Sorry this ain't too technical, it's really a 'spot Linux box' report,
>> but I was stunned to see linux being used on the TV.
>> 
>> I was watching an educational programme on BBC2 were they were teaching
>> software to drive a car, there was a close up on the monitor of the
>> laptop that was in-car and I saw a terminal window called 'wterm'.  I
>> almost choked on my cocoa!  I had to tell someone...
>> 
>> Well, it's time to put the cat out,
>> 
>> Chris C.
>> 
>> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>> Before you buy.


Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group

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(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)

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From: "Ross Goodley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2.2.17 & nfsd
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 13:48:30 +0100

Ta very much sir!
    R

<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:8pij60$55v$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> This message has been posted by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Dave Ewart)
>
> On Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:21:07 +0100, Ross Goodley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Sorry if this is a bit obvious, (if so by all means tell me which FM I
> >should R), gave my machine a shiny new 2.2.17 kernel this w/e, but
> >attempting to run nfsd gives me ;-
> >    nfssvc function undefined
> >
> >now i definitely enabled nfs support in make menuconfig, and yet plainly,
> >looking in the nfsd subdirectory, no compilation has occurred in there
> >(distinct lack of .o files) can some kind soul tell me what I have to
enable
> >in the config to get the little git back?
>
> Fell into this trap myself.
>
> You need to enable NFS _Server_ support - to do this, you need to
> switch on "Prompt for development and/or incomplete code/drivers" in
> "Code maturity level options".  The NFS server options will then appear
> in the FileSystems / Network FileSystems section of the kernel config
> ..
>
> Reason for above is that NFS server support is still, technically,
> experimental.  Seems to work OK as far as I can see, though.
>
> Sorted?
>
> Dave.
> --
> Dave Ewart
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Computing Manager
> ICRF Cancer Epidemiology Unit, Oxford UK



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From: Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Problem with fopen under RedHat 6.2
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:49:57 +0200

The Ghost In The Machine wrote:
> 
[...]
> 
> If you have access to it (it's not free!) you can also try
> Purify, from Rational Software -- although I don't know if there's
> a Linux version or not.
> 

Runing purify on the program on another OS should find the
bug as well. That the program happens to run on Solaris
doesn't mean it is bug free, it could be pure luck. It is
possible to download a free evaluation version of purify.

-- 
Kasper Dupont

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From: Michel TALON <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Zip 100 Parallel Port Drive
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:42:58 +0200

In comp.os.linux.development.system Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In comp.os.linux.misc Michel Talon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: : In comp.os.linux.development.system Peter Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: :> changed the PNP/PCI Config from PNP OS Installed NO to YES.

: : This is in principle BAD. For OS such as Linux FreeBSD and even WinNT i think
: : the correct setting is PNP OS NO, so that the BIOS initializes as much cards
: : as it can.

: Except that the meaning of this switch depends on the bios. Turning it
: to No can mean that it switches off access to PnP. That's taiwanese for
: you!

: Peter

Perhaps you are right. However for sure you are rude.

On my bios, PNP OS to ON means that bios initializes only the bare minimum and
leaves the rest to a pnp aware operating system.
On the OS i use (FreeBSD) it is explicitly recommended to put
PNP OS to NO.

For several experiences i had with network cards on Linux, they were
recognized after having set PNP OS to NO and not before.

-- 

Michel TALON


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: soundblaster 128 pci setup help: kerenl 2.2.17 support?
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:46:06 GMT

hi folks

i have a soundblaster 128pci card and looking at the specs for it, i
believe the sound chip is a es3100.  i was hoping that someone could
confirm if they've successfully managed to setup that soundcard under
linux (with the stndard drvers that are in the kernel 2.2.17 source
tree)

the closest match i can find in the `make config` options is

    Ensoniq ES1370 based PCI sound cards
    CONFIG_SOUND_ES1370
or
    Ensoniq ES1371 based PCI sound cards
    CONFIG_SOUND_ES1371


although the comments tell me that the driver is suitable for the SB64
pci cards.

has anyone had success with a sb128 pci s/card.  tia

paul


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From: "Rodney Hendricks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: TCP port 947
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 21:06:49 +0800

Does anyone know what service listens on tcp port 947.
I have what i think is a fairly stock redhat 6.2 setup, and i'm trying to
clean up any services i don't need running.

As well as this, i have 113 (identd right?), and 111 (portmap?).  What would
i need ident for....pros/cons.
And what would i need the portmapper for, given im using this configuration
for a router/firewall, no nfs/nis.

And is it just me, or is redhat 6.2 considerably more secure "out of the
box" than its predecessors?  My setup had no finger nor telnet server
running as default which is good....i used to have to specifically turn
those off under older versions.

TIA
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reply to email address too if possible.



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From: Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:17:49 +0200

brian moore wrote:
[...]
> 
> But you haven't looked at the structure of ISO-9660.  If you add a
> single block to a file at the start of your 'image' you have to move
> EVERYTHING after it (or waste the space -- which is not nice for trying
> to fit as much as you can on an 650MB CDR).
> 
[...]

It doesn't have to be that way. It would in fact be possible to
make the moving part effective. It would however require a few
new functions in the filesystem on which the iso image is placed.

For a start two new functions could be added to the filesystem,
delete_segment(off,size) and insert_segment(off,size). The
delete_segment should remove the size bytes starting at off,
this can be done by simply changing some tables. (I don't know
what it is called in ext2, but something corresponding to FAT
tables in the fat filesystem.) The insert_segment should insert
size zero bytes at offset off, on ext2 that could be done by
making a hole in the file.

More sophisticated functions could also be implemented. Eg.
a move opperation to move a segment from one possition in a
file to another place perhaps in a different file. A copy
opperation similair to move that just not deletes the original.
And an opperation that would do an insert_segment and at the
same time write data into the segment.

The functions should be available to userspace programs as
well inside the kernel. The kernel should select the new
function on filesystems supporting it and otherwise do it the
slow way.

It of course requires a lot work to be done, but when implemented
you can do all kinds of optimizations. Imagine cp copying a 4GB
file in just 0.1 second by using copy on write disk blocks, or
copying a file from one harddisk to another where the actual
data transfer is done by the controller and thus never involving
the CPU or memory.

-- 
Kasper Dupont

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From: Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Caching files from CD---problem when playing MP3s on CD
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 15:30:57 +0200

Les Mikesell wrote:
[...]
> 
> Stdio only performs a small amount of read-ahead and buffering doesn't
> help until something reads the data.  If you did a 'cat file >/dev/null'
> you would force the contents to be read into the buffer and the disk
> would not be accessed on subsequent reads until something else
> forces it out of the buffer.   If you really want to control physical
> access, create a ramdisk and copy there first.
> 
>   Les Mikesell
>    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Isn't the kernel supported to do readahead in the background?
If that is the case is it supported on all filesystems?

-- 
Kasper Dupont

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Don't mind me, just whining.. =)
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:54:49 -0400

I know that w2k nuked my linux partitions once. Now if w2k goes down, I'm
just putting in an onld NT4 image and booting it.

As for DOS,

<scream mode >
What do you mean "install" DOS?
</scream mode>


To me installing dos is as follows:
I have a win98 boot disk.
After freeing up a primary partition, I boot with  the disk, and use it's
fdisk to claim the free space as a dos partition, and set it active.

Next, I reboot, and see which letter is assigned to it. Usualy a media error
while "dir"-ing the drive will indicate that it is unformatted.I arrange
things so that the M$ boot drives always show up as "C:". Then I do format
c: /s , and make a "dos" directory and dump in all the necessary tools, put
in the autoexec and config files. Then I set my linux boot partion as the
active ,and in linux I  put an entry in lilo.
FYI:
I installed linux first, so that I could setup the partitions properly. Then
I changed the active partition to the one where each OS's boot would be. and
installed it, so that one would not know of the other.

Oh, and one more thing: It helps if one  puts lilo into the linux /boot
partition, and leave the MBR alone. That way one can let NT/2k go about it's
boot sector business, and lilo won't be messed with.






Wayne Pollock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Most Microsoft products (Not DOS though) come in two variaties,
> complete and upgrade.  The upgrade versions leave your non-FAT and
> FAT32 partitions alone, but, as you have discovered, the complete
> versions delete non MS sactioned partitions.  The problem is worse
> with Window NT.
>
> For a dual boot system, always install the Micorsoft OS first.  This
> is easiler, but while I don't know how I feel it is probably possible
> to install Windows or DOS after installing Linux.
>
> Note if you have any Windows 3.11 upgrade disks, you can install DOS,
> upgrade to Windows 3.11, then upgrade that to windows 98.  Not only
> does this procedure not wipe out Linux, but the upgrade is cheaper than
> buying the complete Windows98 package.  I don't know if this will
> work with Windows 2000 or not.
>
> -Wayne Pollock
>
> The Darkener wrote:
> >
> > DOS sucks. =p
> >
> > I had a really cool setup on my laptop (Debian Slink w/blackbox, cool
> > theme, everything working well) and I decide I wanted to throw DOS on
> > there so I could fire up some old apps I might need (Dosemu just doesn't
> > cut it), so I resize my /home partition and leave about 100mb free space
> > on the drive.  Fire up DOS setup boot disk, and it says it needs to
> > "configure your hard drive for DOS" (ummm, partition it??).  "Ok!" I say
> > and merrily let it.  BAM! Wiped out all my other partitions (Even my
> > freakin' phpdisk partition!!) and used the whole damn thing for Fat16.
> > BLAH, I say!  And I thought DOS didn't recognize ext2 partitions so it
> > couldn't deal with them, I guess in that case it just wipes out the
> > partition table all together.  I spent most of my night last night
> > getting Debian back on there (after of course, putting DOS on there
> > FIRST this time).  Argh. =)  Anyone have a reasonable explanation for
> > this? =) Maybe just to make me feel better?
> > ...



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jehsom)
Subject: Re: cdrecord screwing up X?
Date: 11 Sep 2000 13:53:19 GMT

muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How much memory do you have?  How much Swap memory do you have?

$ cat /proc/meminfo 
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:
Mem:  264183808 221970432 42213376 92217344 65806336 55484416
Swap: 139788288   372736 139415552
MemTotal:    257992 kB
MemFree:      41224 kB
MemShared:    90056 kB
Buffers:      64264 kB
Cached:       54184 kB
SwapTotal:   136512 kB
SwapFree:    136148 kB


I have a lot of swap space free even though I only have 128mb of it total.
I can't increase my swap size without redoing my entire partition table,
which would suck. 

Any more suggestions?

Thanks,
Moshe

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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: A Very Simple Question Concerning My Windows Disapearing Act
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 09:59:52 -0400

/etc/lilo.conf

man lilo.conf for info on it.
change it, and type lilo at the prompt.
the reboot.
hth



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> hey,
> what is the name of the file i can open in Linux to set Windows as a
> possible bootable OS? i have windows98 installed but not able to run
> because at the startup of Linux Mandrake 7.0 i am only given the options
> Linux and Floppy to boot up. i would like to change this. so how can i do
> that and if you know what is the name of that file so i can go into it. i
> think it is something like /etc/X11/...... but i can not remember the
> rest. thank you.
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From: Francis Richards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: '/dev/null: read-only filesystem' during boot
Date: 11 Sep 2000 13:57:22 GMT

hi,

i'm running a pretty vanilla ( i think ) caldera 2.2 with kernel 2.2.14.  i
rebooted yesterday and things started hanging durring fsck.  booting into
single user gives:

        Loading kernel......
        /dev/null on /proc type proc (rw)
        Mounted /proc...
        Loading default modules...
        /etc/rd.c/rc.modules: /dev/null: Read-only file system
        Unmounted /proc...
        /etc/rc.d/rc: /var/log/rc-log: Read-Only file system
                above line repeated several times

when i then log in as root, mount gives:
        /dev/sda1 on / type ext2 (rw)
        /proc on /proc type proc (rw)

but when i try to touch anything, it tells me things are read only.  after
mount -n -o remount,rw /, mount's output is the same but now the filesystem is
normal (i can change files, etc).

by touch'ing /fastboot, i can get the system to startup sort of normally, but
loading the modules still runs into trouble, so a lot of things don't work.

any help would be much appreciated.

brady richards


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: Wish for a writable ISO-9660 compatible filsystem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 14:06:39 GMT

Centuries ago, Nostradamus foresaw a time when Kasper Dupont would say:
>brian moore wrote:
>[...]
>> 
>> But you haven't looked at the structure of ISO-9660.  If you add a
>> single block to a file at the start of your 'image' you have to move
>> EVERYTHING after it (or waste the space -- which is not nice for trying
>> to fit as much as you can on an 650MB CDR).
>> 
>[...]
>
>It doesn't have to be that way. It would in fact be possible to
>make the moving part effective. It would however require a few
>new functions in the filesystem on which the iso image is placed.

But is the result of this modification still an ISO 9660
filesystem?

And can this approach be taken to write the data to a CD-RW
unit?

There are all sorts of changes that could conceivably be made, but
not all of them are compatible with either ISO9660 or with the 
hardware itself.
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From: Jean-David Beyer-valinux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Drive Space in RH 6.0
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 10:07:45 -0400

Steve Wolfe wrote (in part):

>   /tmp, as a world-writeable directory, should absolutely NOT be placed in
> the / partition, unless you really like any normal user to fill up the /
> partition completely.   Put it on it's own partition as well.

While I think I made a mistake in putting /var and /tmp in with /, I will not
get the problem you suggest because I put disq quotas on the various users of
my machine, so they cannot take too much of / (set at about 6 Gigabytes (the
partition size; the quota for an individual user is much less than that). I
have something like 14 partitions on my old system (not counting 2 swap
partitions), and I was continually running into trouble, running out of space
on one partition when I had lots of space on another.

So I went the other way on this system:

Drive 0:
6 GBytes for /
24 MBytes for /boot
2 GBytes for some database stuff.
125MBytes for swap

Drive 1:
6 GBytes for /home
24 MBytes for /boot2 (just a backup, but on wrong cylinders, so I probably
cannot boot from them)
2 GBytes for some more database stuff.
125 MBytes for swap

I think it would make sense to put /tmp and /var on a separate partition or
two, but since this machine normally has only one real user logged in at a
time, and I do not run a news server on it, it really does not matter much.

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