Linux-Misc Digest #754, Volume #25               Wed, 13 Sep 00 20:13:04 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Why Does the EXT2 filesystem not need defragmentation. (Christopher Browne)
  Re: shutduwn problems (Rafael)
  Re: you can turn the power off now (Patton Echols)
  Re: how can I delete blank line? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Making a Tomcat script (.sh) run during Linux Init ("David marshall")
  Need help with dump/restore on Linux - Getting broken pipe. (Scott Chapman)
  Re: Making a Tomcat script (.sh) run during Linux Init (Black Dragon)
  Re: E-mail client for gnome (David Dorward)
  Re: Is thereany file based database in linux? (David Dorward)
  Re: Can anyone help me out? (David Dorward)
  Re: Need help with dump/restore on Linux - Getting broken pipe. (Scott Chapman)
  Re: aic7xxx 2.4.0 kernel module...gone (Ghengis Kahn)
  Re: what is the ORB? (Bob McLaren)
  Re: aic7xxx 2.4.0 kernel module...gone (Peter Mardahl)
  Re: how can I delete blank line? ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Scripting SSH ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Sound recording (or rather lack of it). ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: you can turn the power off now ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: gnome or kde? ("Rinaldi J. Montessi")
  Re: Can't install LILO when Linux > 8 GB limit with PC with BIOS restriction (John 
in SD)
  Re: you can turn the power off now (Quentin Christensen)
  Re: Swapping a Linux into a new Computer. (FyreFiend)
  Re: Loading Kernel Into Upper Memory ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Newbie question about depedencies ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Can anyone help me out? ("Peter T. Breuer")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Why Does the EXT2 filesystem not need defragmentation.
Date: 13 Sep 2000 21:46:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In our last episode (Wed, 13 Sep 2000 16:32:57 -0400),
the artist formerly known as mike said:
>    I have been looking for detailed explainations as to why
>Linux ext2 does not have a fragmentation problem.

The valid statement is that it does not have a _serious_ fragmentation
problem; see:
   <http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/linuxkernel.html#DEFRAG>
for some relevant links.
-- 
(concatenate 'string "cbbrowne" "@" "acm.org")
<http://www.ntlug.org/~cbbrowne/>
If the automobile had improved as  much as the computer in the last 25
years, it would get 1,000,000 miles to the gallon, cost $1, have a top
speed of  30,000 mph, and  explode at least  once a year,  killing all
passengers.

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From: Rafael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shutduwn problems
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:59:55 -0700

Hej Davide!
Thank for your mail.
But the problem is somewhere else. I was trying to stop manually services
and the same. When I was starting some service using init scripts from rc.d
directory, everything is okay. Then I was checking what pid process have,
just using ps command. Then I tried to stop service using the script from
rc.d directory and that it failed.
I was going thruu whole script, and finded that problem accure when script
is executing function from file  /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions (killproc).
Script is trying to kill process to times. It is killed first time, but
script is killing the process again.
I was also comparing script on other machine, and it is okey (seems), the
same. But on the other poblem did not exist.
I think that something arroud when script check
if ps h $pid >/dev/null 2>&1
I realy want to find solution, and not reinstall whole system.
Rafael


Davide Bianchi wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 09:41:34 -0700, Rafael Przybyszewski
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >When I am  telleing (Linux - RedHat 6.2 - 2.2.16-3) system to shutdown
> >or halt its failing to kill most of the process. It telling me that
> >proces uid not found. It was okey before, how to corect it. What files
> >are responsible for this mess. Only last command killall work during
> >shutdown.
>
> Well, the shutdown of the various services is drived by a series of
> simlink into /etc/rc.d/rc0.d. Each simplink execute a script with the
> 'STOP' parameter to tell the deamon to stop.
> Of course, if the deamon itself is not working, the deamon can't stop
> (because is already stopped), this happen if you have more symlink
> than running deamon.
>
> For example, if you have a symlink that tell to stop the PCMCIA
> interface (something like Kxxpcmcia), but you don't have any PCMCIA,
> the deamon can't stop because it never started! This is also the case
> if you have recompiled the kernel and removed some unused module or
> deactivated some features.
>
> Of course, the " killall" command work...
>
> My suggestion is: check what you effectively start, and what you
> try to stop. Eventually remove the "stop this-stop that" script
> that are not used.
>
> Davide


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From: Patton Echols <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: you can turn the power off now
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:14:16 -0700



Quentin Christensen wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> This thread reminds me of something i've been meaning to look at / fix for
> awhile... My (slackware) linux doesn't appear to have ANY shutdown
> command, most advice here talks about the shutdown command... but I don't
> have one!  The only way I can (think of) shut down my system is the three
> finger salute and power off when it's rebooting in the BIOS...
> 
> What do I need to edit/make/do/get ?
> 
what happens if at a shell prompt you enter the following?

shutdown -h now

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: how can I delete blank line?
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 13:51:02 +0100

Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> Andrew N. McGuire  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On 10 Sep 2000, Peter T. Breuer quoth:
> : \n

> That's not IN a line!

'course it is. It's the last character in every line of text.
So if there aren't any characters on the line, there's still a \n.

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
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|Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)|                                                 |
|            in            | "I think so brain, but this time, you control   |
|     Computer Science     |  the Encounter suit, and I'll do the voice..."  |
==============================================================================

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From: "David marshall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Making a Tomcat script (.sh) run during Linux Init
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:22:31 -0500

I'm struggling on RH 6.2 to make a Tomcat.sh script run during Linux init.
Ideally I want it to run before the init of the httpd daemon. Currently I
must run the tomcat.sh script after all other processes start. Does anybody
have any ideas?

David Marshall





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From: Scott Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need help with dump/restore on Linux - Getting broken pipe.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:29:21 -0700

I'm attempting to dump a entire Linux system to a file so I can FTP it
to another system to be backed up.  I can dump it ok but the test
restore (of a single file) didn't work.

Here's the command I used to create the dump file:
# dump -0 -f- / | gzip -9 > /dump.gz

When I list the file I'm after, it shows up but a broken pipe follows.
I don't understand why:

# cat dump.gz | gunzip - | restore -t -f- ./delivery4.tar
Dump   date: Wed Sep 13 13:42:36 2000
Dumped from: the epoch
Level 0 dump of / on river.lund.com:/dev/hda1
Label: none
      3030      ./delivery4.tar
Broken pipe
# 

When I try to restore the file it asks a question I don't understand
and gives me a broken pipe regardless of how I answer the question:

# cat dump.gz | gunzip - | restore -x -f- ./delivery4.tar
set owner/mode for '.'? [yn] n
Broken pipe
# 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Cordially,
Scott.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Black Dragon)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Making a Tomcat script (.sh) run during Linux Init
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 22:44:28 GMT

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:22:31 -0500 in comp.os.linux,
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> `David marshall' said:

>I'm struggling on RH 6.2 to make a Tomcat.sh script run during Linux init.
>Ideally I want it to run before the init of the httpd daemon. Currently I
>must run the tomcat.sh script after all other processes start. Does anybody
>have any ideas?
>
>David Marshall

See the man page / documents for `chkconfig', and take a look at some existing
init / rc scripts for examples.

-- 
Black Dragon

"Resist militant `normality' -- A mind is a terrible thing to erase."

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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: E-mail client for gnome
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:59:40 +0100

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I'm searching for a e-mail client for gnome. I have more than one pop3
> accounts so those must be viewed by this e-mail client. Like outlook for
> windows. Netscape communicator can't handle more then one pop3 account.

Try fetchmail + mutt (both can be found on freshmeat.net)

Fetchmail collects email from as many POP3 accounts as you like and mutt
reads and sends mail.

Mutt isn't a GUI email client, but it is very nice and has a lot of
advantages of GUI (faster, small). It does support multiple mail
folders.

-- 
David Dorward
http://www.dorward.co.uk/

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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is thereany file based database in linux?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:00:13 +0100

neil wrote:
> 
> We need a file based database in a linux box, just like the *.dbf or *.mdb
> in the MS platform. We'd check mdb and cdb, but these two both are too
> low level.

How about Comma Seperated Variable files?

-- 
David Dorward
http://www.dorward.co.uk/

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From: David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me out?
Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 00:01:47 +0100

router wrote:
> 
> I am new to Linux (so I have a very DOS/Windows mind) and I need some help
> installing Slackware. Actually, ZipSlack, the version of slackware made for
> FAT partitions... actually, its BigSlack. ZipSlack's big counterpart
> (includes Gnome and an X Windows interface).

[snip]

I don't know slackware at all, but have heard that it is one of the most
difficult versions of Linux to install. I strongly suggest you try
Mandrake 7.1 which is packed with features and installs very easily.
(Put CD in, turn on, point and click).

-- 
David Dorward
http://www.dorward.co.uk/

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From: Scott Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need help with dump/restore on Linux - Getting broken pipe.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:40:22 -0700

I just noticed that the file is restored even though I get the error
message and the question.  I still wonder why the pipe is showing up
broken and why it's asking me to set the mode for '.' so please
"enlighten" me!

Scott.


On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:29:21 -0700, Scott Chapman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I'm attempting to dump a entire Linux system to a file so I can FTP it
>to another system to be backed up.  I can dump it ok but the test
>restore (of a single file) didn't work.
>
>Here's the command I used to create the dump file:
># dump -0 -f- / | gzip -9 > /dump.gz
>
>When I list the file I'm after, it shows up but a broken pipe follows.
>I don't understand why:
>
># cat dump.gz | gunzip - | restore -t -f- ./delivery4.tar
>Dump   date: Wed Sep 13 13:42:36 2000
>Dumped from: the epoch
>Level 0 dump of / on river.lund.com:/dev/hda1
>Label: none
>      3030      ./delivery4.tar
>Broken pipe
># 
>
>When I try to restore the file it asks a question I don't understand
>and gives me a broken pipe regardless of how I answer the question:
>
># cat dump.gz | gunzip - | restore -x -f- ./delivery4.tar
>set owner/mode for '.'? [yn] n
>Broken pipe
># 
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>Cordially,
>Scott.


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From: Ghengis Kahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: aic7xxx 2.4.0 kernel module...gone
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:25:04 GMT

Darren Welson wrote:

> Every time I recompile 2.4.0-test 6,7, and 8 kernel, I cannot seem to
> successfully load the AIC7XXX module, or at least have it made.  Anyone know
> how I can check to make sure I am actually making this module, or find a way
> I can to compile it into the kernel?  I have added it as a module and IN the
> kernel in all three test versions as a low-level SCSI option, but what am I
> missing?
>
> darren

I would like to know the answer to that as well. I have the same problem with
the 2.2.12-20 kernal. As far as I can tell, it is not possible to rebuild the
kernel with the AIC7xxxx drivers and actually get it to boot. I spent several
days fighting the "UNRESOLVED SYMBOLS" error on boot. So am I stuck running the
kernel that was installed from the RH installation CD.  Like you, I also turned
on every damn scsi module there was and I even tossed in the IDE modules as
well. No luck. There is some magic trick that the installation CD knows about
that allows the aic7xxxx to run with the default install, but for whatever
reason doesn't work when regen'ing the kernel. I have to conclude there is an
error in the dependencies ("make dep") that is causing this. But I have no clue
how to track it down.


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From: Bob McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what is the ORB?
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:26:34 GMT

Or do you mean the Orb drive like the the Iomega Zip drive?

"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:

> Nesman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : anyone knows the orb is? what is for? where can doc? searched the redhat /
> : ldp site, nothing comes out like orb. who knows aabout the orb? thanks,
>
> Which ORB do you mean? (or is that an ORBA?, or a CORBA?).
>
> : nesman
>
> Peter

--
Bob McLaren
Internet Services Project Manager
Financial Statement Services, Inc.
http://www.fssi-ca.com



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Mardahl)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: aic7xxx 2.4.0 kernel module...gone
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:44:00 GMT

Hmm, I had no difficulty bulding the AIC7xxx modules in and having it work,
for 2.2.x with x = 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17
and for
2.4.0-test-y with y=7 and 8.

Note that I built IN the modules, I didn't try to load them.

I have a comment or two on your problem with 2.2.x below:

>the 2.2.12-20 kernal. As far as I can tell, it is not possible to rebuild the
>kernel with the AIC7xxxx drivers and actually get it to boot. I spent several
>days fighting the "UNRESOLVED SYMBOLS" error on boot. So am I stuck running the

I think the problem might be that you compiled a new kernel with AIC7xxxx
AND you're trying to load in a module with AIC7xxx.  Check your init
scripts and see if they're forcing a load of AIC7xxx.

A second thing to check is to make sure that you're loading the RIGHT
AIC7xxx module. One compiled for a different kernel than one you're trying
to boot is likely to hoze you.

PeterM

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how can I delete blank line?
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:35:22 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
:> Andrew N. McGuire  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : On 10 Sep 2000, Peter T. Breuer quoth:
:> : \n

:> That's not IN a line!

: 'course it is. It's the last character in every line of text.

Course it's not. A line without any characters is demarcated by the
\n that marks the end of the previous line and the \n that marks the
end of it. It has zero characters in it, i.e. between the two.

: So if there aren't any characters on the line, there's still a \n.

That's after the end of the line. Try it. The last character in
this line is a full stop.

Or are you going to get more confused about the number zero!

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Scripting SSH
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:38:42 GMT

Jeffrey Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> Alternatively, you could just add your public key on the server and be
:> done with password prompts altogether. Of course, then it might be too
:> seamless..

: I hate to sound stupid, but where do I go to find how to do this... ??

The man page for ssh.

Just add your public key to the authorized_keys file in your .ssh
directory on the server (at least that's what I presume he means).

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sound recording (or rather lack of it).
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:40:30 GMT

"Barry Samuels" <Barry Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: In article <8pokrq$1sp$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Peter T. Breuer"
: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

:> "Barry Samuels" <Barry Samuels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : I am running Debian 2.2, kernel 2.2.17pre6 and a SoundBlaster Live using
:> : the Creative/Emu module.
:> 
:> : When I say I cannot record I mean that, although I can create a file by
:> : using something like Gramofile, Sound-recorder or KRecord, when it is
:> : played back it produces silence (not a scientifically accurate statement)! 
:> : The file size increases by about 8MB per minute.
:> 
:> What's inside it? zeros or ones?

: Neither actually.  There are a variety of byte values!

That's what I wanted to know. So you  recorded something! The problem
is on playback.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: you can turn the power off now
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:37:04 GMT

Quentin Christensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: This thread reminds me of something i've been meaning to look at / fix for 
: awhile... My (slackware) linux doesn't appear to have ANY shutdown 

To you, perhaps. To me it appears to have /sbin/shutdown. 

Why not look in your /etc/inittab to see what CAD executes!

Peter

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From: "Rinaldi J. Montessi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: gnome or kde?
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 19:49:23 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I'm going to install Redhat's Linux 6.2 on my PC. As far as I understand
> 
> I'm going to have to choose either gnome or kde as my GUI.
> Which should I choose? I was looking for some kind of  advice in
> Redhat's docs but couldn't find any satisfying comparison with pros and
> cons.
> 
> Thnx
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, IceWm????


-- 
Rinaldi]$
Here in Florida, we have a billion-dollar plan to teach third-grade
reading. We call it the 12th grade. (Stolen from Jay Leno)

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From: John in SD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't install LILO when Linux > 8 GB limit with PC with BIOS restriction
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:51:56 GMT

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000 23:04:56 +0200, Pieter Langendonck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>Hello all,
>
>I have a PC which has a BIOS restriction of maximal 8 GB.
>I have bought a 20,4 GB Harddisk. I would like to install
>Linux, Windows95 and Windows NT on this system.
>I know I can use the full 20,4 GB for Windows 95 with
>Maxblast software.

Maxblast installs the EDD packet calls on int 0x13 which allows LILO > version
21.2 to boot beyond cylinder 1024.

Install RedHat, making a boot floppy.  You will need this until you have a
newer release of LILO installed.

  LILO 21.5.1 is available at:

     ftp:  metalab.unc.edu
     dir:  /pub/Linux/system/boot/lilo

--John



>
>What I want is to use all GBs > 8 GB for Linux. Below 8
>GB I want to use Windows95 and NT. This is not a problem.
>Unfortunately I can't get LILO installed. The Red Hat 6.0 setup
>program gives a strange error.
>
>I tried to make a small Linux partition below 8 GB, but the
>Red Hat setup program forces me to install everything below
>8 GB or nothing.  I don't want to fully install Linux below 8 GB,
>because I would like to have as much GBs as possible for
>Windows95 and NT.
>
>I'm willing to install a small part of Linux below 8 GB...
>But I have no clue how to do that with setup program
>of Red Hat.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>Or can anyone explain me what to do, why I have the
>problem installing Lilo. Everything during the install till that
>point is working fine....
>
>Greetings,
>  Pieter Langendonck
>
>P.S. It is not possible that I flash my BIOS. The BIOS does just not
>support partitions > 8 GB.
>


LILO version 21.5 (18-Jul-2000) source at
ftp: brun.dyndns.org   dir: /pub/linux/lilo

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Subject: Re: you can turn the power off now
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Quentin Christensen)
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 23:53:38 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc, on 14 Sep 2000, Patton Echols announced:

>
>
>Quentin Christensen wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> This thread reminds me of something i've been meaning to look at /
>> fix for awhile... My (slackware) linux doesn't appear to have ANY
>> shutdown command, most advice here talks about the shutdown
>> command... but I don't have one!  The only way I can (think of) shut
>> down my system is the three finger salute and power off when it's
>> rebooting in the BIOS... 
>> 
>> What do I need to edit/make/do/get ?
>> 
>what happens if at a shell prompt you enter the following?
>
>shutdown -h now
>
well, (I'm in win98 atm but) I have tried just shutdown and from memory I 
get the error that there is no shutdown command... (whatever that error 
message is - I've seen it a hundred times....).

What should shutdown with no arguments do?  I know it doesn't give a 
message saying what arguments you can give it or anything like that...

Quentin.

-- 
My Win9x Cursors: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~mynx/quentisl/cursors.html
Please don't send me junk leaves! (take them out before replying).

No Silicon Heaven?  But where do all the calculators go? - Kryten.

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From: FyreFiend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swapping a Linux into a new Computer.
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 15:25:45 -0400

Thanks folks!
It's a linux only system so I think I'll give it a try (after a
back-up).

Thank again,
Fyre
On Wed, 13 Sep 2000 17:52:59 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul E.
Larson) wrote:

>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>FyreFiend wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>> I just got a new (to me) computer with no hard drive and I was
>>> thinking about swapping my Linux box's hard drive into it. I was
>>> wondering how much trouble am I going to have when Linux boots up and
>>> finds that all the hardware has changed.
>>> So, should I just go for it or should I reinstall on the new box.
>>>
>
>
>>linux doesn't even have one of those. Try it, nothing really to lose, if
>>it fails you gonna re-install anyway.
>
>As long as you have your important files backed up, first. 


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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Loading Kernel Into Upper Memory
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:49:46 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
: Does anyone know of a way of getting the kernel to load higher in
: memory??  I am working on a project that would like to reserve the
: first 16 meg on a power pc running Linux.  I need this region to share
: with another bus in the ppc.

You can reserve memory in the linux kernel. It's a known technique.
See the [big]physmem or whatever patches .. I seem to recall they made
their way into the standard kernel. Search around in the source or on
google for further clues.

: Thanks in advance for help anyone can provide!

As far as I recall, the kernel maps all of physical ram in a single
pass at startup, somehere in init.c or nearby. You just tell it
to ignore 16M there.

Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Newbie question about depedencies
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:45:11 GMT

root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: FYI, I'm running Linux-Mandrake 7.0, with KDE 1.1.2

: I need an IMAP mail client, so I decided to donwload KImap form
: www.freshmeat.net. I downloaded the .rpm file (as Linux-Mandrake is
: supposed to handle rpm files), and tried to install it with kpackage.
: However, I get the following error message:

: ---
: Dependency Problem:
: libjpeg.so.6 is needed by kimap-0.1.4-1
: ---

It's not a mandrake RPM. ALL the dependency information will be wrong. 
Either ignore the error message, get a mandrake rpm, or install from
a tarred binary, or compile the source (plus a few more sensible
alternatives).

Me, I'd get a tarred binary, convert it to an rpm for your system with
alien, then install it with rpm. That will collect and install the
right dependency info.


Peter

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can anyone help me out?
Date: 13 Sep 2000 23:54:30 GMT

David Dorward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: router wrote:
:> I am new to Linux (so I have a very DOS/Windows mind) and I need some help
:> installing Slackware. Actually, ZipSlack, the version of slackware made for
:> FAT partitions... actually, its BigSlack. ZipSlack's big counterpart
:> (includes Gnome and an X Windows interface).

: I don't know slackware at all, but have heard that it is one of the most
: difficult versions of Linux to install. I strongly suggest you try

This has always been amazingly false.  Something like a vicious rumour
started by vested business interests, I suppose.  It's always been the
easiest distro to install for me.  Never had the slightest trouble in
over 7 years.  In contrast, I've never yet been able to install RedHat
in a standard way yet.  (yes, SuSE is no problem too).

: Mandrake 7.1 which is packed with features and installs very easily.

Peter

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