Linux-Misc Digest #856, Volume #25 Sun, 24 Sep 00 04:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: cuecat dejavu (Equinox)
Re: /boot/message ("Justin Dubs")
Re: BURNING AUDIO AND OR VCD's (David_C)
Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source... (Hartmann
Schaffer)
Re: Disk Druid (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: 4004 (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: Headless X86 Linux system (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: Debian or Redhat or Caldera, and KDE or Gnome? (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: installing on a hd not supported by bios (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: Easily compiling/moving kernel+modules to another computer (Hartmann Schaffer)
Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source... (David_C)
Re: End-User Alternative to Windows ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: GLX extensions in RedHat Linux Xserver (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Re: Disk Druid ("He Kun")
Re: been hacked...have a question (Jan Johansson)
Re: IP Masquerading (Uncle Meat)
Re: mpet player for linux 6.2 ("Jason Byrne")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Equinox)
Subject: Re: cuecat dejavu
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 04:31:53 GMT
On Sun, 24 Sep 2000 02:54:06 GMT, Cokey de Percin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Agreed, but there's a way to kill the the id imbedded in the cuecat
>by cutting a trace. After that, it generates random garbage. ;-))
>Let'm trace THAT!
Or, if you're uncomfortable chopping up electronic devices, you could
probably do it in software. Since the thing spits out its ID as the
first part of every scan's output, one could write a driver that
strips out the ID and replaces it with a randomly generated fake ID, a
bit of random garbage, --SCREW-YOU-:D:C--, etc.
Of course, DigitalConvergence might try to sue you for violating their
"intellectual property rights". Also, if you decide to make your
driver report --SCREW-YOU-:D:C-- as the ID, they might get mad at you
for taking their acronym in vain. :P
--Russell
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email (spam-disabled):
rdh *at* salug *dot* org
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From: "Justin Dubs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: /boot/message
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:30:36 -0400
"YY Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I use Mandrake 7.1 in a Pentium III 566 Mhz as dual boot with Windows
> 98. I 'cat /dev/null/ > /boot/message' which emptied the
> '/boot/message' that now says '0 byte' but still showing LILO prompt as:
>
> --
> Welcome to LILO the operating system chooser!
>
> To list the possible choices, press <TAB>.
>
> To load one of them, write its name and press <ENTER> or wait 5 seconds
> for default boot.
> --
> while 'typescript' says it's empty:
> --
> Script started on Sat Sep 23 15:11:25 2000
> ~ # ls -l /boot | grep message
> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Sep 23 15:05 message
> ~ # exit
> exit
>
> Script done on Sat Sep 23 15:11:37 2000
>
> Is there a trick to reset LILO prompt after editing '/boot/message'?
>
Yes! LILO is a bootloader, which means that it loads your kernel.
Therefore, it doesn't even mount your root partition, much less read the
/boot/message file. The message is hardcoded into your boot sector. After
editing /boot/message or /etc/lilo.conf you have to rerun lilo so it updates
everything. So, just do a quick /sbin/lilo and you should be fine. Good
luck,
Justin Dubs
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From: David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: BURNING AUDIO AND OR VCD's
Date: 24 Sep 2000 00:58:17 -0400
Kirk I Reiten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I've been trying to burn audio and video CDs...... They burn OK,,,,,
> I can play the burnt audio CDs on computer CD Drives using xplaycd and
> even Windows boxs work.......... However, when I try to play them on
> a "real" CD player, they don't work.....
>
> The same thing happens when I try to burn VCDs
Are you trying to burn CD-R or CD-RW media?
These two are very different from each other, and both are very
different from factory-stamped CDs.
Most (but definitely not all) audio CD players can read CD-R media.
Very few can read CD-RW media.
Ditto for VCDs. Many (but not all) DVD players can read CD-R media.
Very few can read CD-RW media.
If you are burning your stuff onto CD-RW media, try it with CD-R
instead.
If even CD-R media doesn't work, you might try using a different brand
of CD-R media. Some might work better than others. Different brands of
drives work better with different brands of media. There is no such
thing as one brand of media that works best on all drives. If your CD
burner's manufacturer recommends certain brands of media, try those
before you try other brands.
If you find that other brands of media are equally unreadble, then your
audio/video players may simply be unable to play CD-R media. Consider
replacing them with players that can. Players designated as "multi
read" are designed to play CD-R and CD-RW media. I recommend bringing
some of your own discs into the store to try them on the display models
so you can be sure that the new player will work with your discs.
I hope this helps somewhat. Good luck.
-- David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source...
Date: 23 Sep 2000 17:56:12 -0400
In article <bsV3ehsibPZd-pn2-7l0p8sdn9BhF@ASUSTwo>,
Bruce LaZerte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>What to do?
>
>According to the people at samba.org, I need the latest 2.2.18-9pre kernel
>patch and recompile so that smbfs will work properly wih our SMB server
>(OS/2, not samba).
>
>But linux-mandrake 7.1 (kernel 2.2.15-4mdk) only provides their modified
>source(-4mdk), and applying the 2.2.16 patch (from ftp.kernel.org)
>generates lots of errors.
what stops you from downloading the kernel you need from kernel.org
and installing it on your system? afaik this causes no problems (i
have tried it with redhat)
>If I download the plain vanilla kernel (2.2.17 from ftp.kernel.org) source
>and patch that, I could lose whatever modifications mandrake made to 2.2.15
>(whatever they were) and risk incompatibility with everything else
>installed with mandrake 7.1.
cf above
>Mandrake 7.2 (beta 2 already available) only goes up to kernel 2.2.17 and
>is probably again modified by mandrake so the 2.2.18-9pre patch will flip
>out.
>
>What to do?
>
>Is there another linux distribution out there that only uses standard
>kernels, equivalent to those found on ftp.kernel.org? Given the monolithic
>linux kernel and the necessity to recompile it when updating certain device
>drivers, this would be nice feature.
afaik both debian and slackware use unmodified kernels
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Disk Druid
Date: 23 Sep 2000 18:00:44 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Oleksandr Bozhyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi again,
>My problem is I can't mount new partiton made
>with help of fdisk before.
did you run mke2fs after running [c]fdisk?
> ...
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: 4004
Date: 23 Sep 2000 18:18:45 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David C. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>I think the original Minix (which evolved in to Linux a long time ago)
no it didn't. torvalds started a kernel from scratch because he was
frustrated with minix'es inability to come up with a decent 386 based
distribution (there were some copyright problems because tanenbaum
used a publisher (prentice hall?) ass distribution channel and they
insisted that nobody else could distribute a complete distribution).
since minix used the 8086's segmented memory architecture, hardly any
of the standard unix programs would run on it, and porting minix code
back to unix systems wasn't easy either, so minix'es contribution to
linux is at best minimal
> ...
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Headless X86 Linux system
Date: 23 Sep 2000 18:39:12 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Peter Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>My mistake on the line in /etc/inittab; should be more like
>
>S1:12345:respawn:/sbin/getty /dev/ttyS1 D38400 vt100
>
>In my case I use a laptop connected through a serial port to
>watch the boot-up process, and after this I can use the same
>system or I can use telnet to control the machine.
>
>Another problem - unless you make changes (I've forgotten to
>which file, but it might be /etc/hosts.allow), you can't run
>halt, shutdown, reboot etc except from the keyboard. This
>includes running them from the serial terminal.
add ttyS1 to /etc/securetty
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: 23 Sep 2000 18:49:54 -0400
On Sat, 23 Sep 2000, lyttlec wrote:
> ...
>We also walked two miles to school every day bare foot in the snow.
you forgot to mention that it was uphill both ways
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Debian or Redhat or Caldera, and KDE or Gnome?
Date: 23 Sep 2000 19:14:36 -0400
In article <8qggvj$r2r$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, guy-jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>i am in possession of 3 linux distros, each on
>one CD - Red Hat Linux 6.0, Debian GNU/Linux 2.1,
>and Caldera Open Linux 2.3. which of these is the
>most recent? which one do you think i should install?
i don't know about caldera, but both redhat and debian are rather old.
debian2.1 uses the 2.0 kernel, rh6.0 afaik a very early 2.2 kernel. i
would suggest getting a cd with a later distribution (i'm using debian
2.2 with a 2.17 kernel)
>also, i would rather not use the packed in desktop
>environment. when i had linux before (an earlier
>version of redhat, dont remember which) it came
>with a desktop called fwvm95. (sp?) i thought it
fvwm95
you could have looked around, usually you could find quite a few other
window managers in your distribution, and you could easily switch
between them. i tended to prefer fvwm2
>was very clumsy. i have read a lot about both
>Gnome and KDE, and would like your opinions on
>which i should use.
you can install both, and the login screen (xdm) lets you choose which
of them you want to use when logging in. personally, i do prefer
gnome, but many people prefer kde. with 9.2gb you shouldn't have
problems installing both
>finally, how is linux's USB support nowadays?
>last i knew, not very good - but it's been almost
>2 years.
no idea, my machines don't have usb
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: installing on a hd not supported by bios
Date: 23 Sep 2000 18:58:43 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Martijn Brouwer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...
>Where do I have to install lilo? I suppose that installation in MBR gives
>troubles, or does lilo install itself then in another sector, and does EZ-
>bios recognise this?
if you have already some kind of boot manager installed (i used the
os/2 boot manager when i was still running os/2) you can install it in
the partion where your root fs is. if you don't you have to put it
into the mbr, it then lets you boot either into linux or whatever
other os you have installed on your system (if you have windows
installed, you can also leave the mbr alone and use loadlinux to start
linux)
hs
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hartmann Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Easily compiling/moving kernel+modules to another computer
Date: 23 Sep 2000 19:33:09 -0400
In article <8qfitn$l52$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, -ljl- <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Douglas Bollinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>...
>> There must be many people besides me who perform this operation and
>> who have streamlined it. I suppose ideally I'm looking for a script
>> to collect the modules, kernel image and system map into a tarball
>> for easy movement to Tortoise.
>
>Excerpt from '/usr/src/linux/Makefile':
>
># INSTALL_PATH specifies where to place the updated kernel and system
>map
># images. Uncomment if you want to place them anywhere other than root.
>
>INSTALL_PATH=/boot
>
>#
># INSTALL_MOD_PATH specifies a prefix to MODLIB for module directory
># relocations required by build roots. This is not defined in the
># makefile but the argument can be passed to make if needed.
>
>Guess you just edit the Makefile. It's OK to be lazy as long as you
>are not idolent.
not without problems: depending on what system you are running on, it
still might install the bzImage on the machine where you do the build:
in arch/i386/boot there is a file install.sh (?) which gets called
from make install. it checks for a /sbin/install-kernel and calls
that when it exists. depending on what that does you still might end
up with the new kernel on the build machine rather than where you want
it. it is advisable to edit
<kernel-source-tree>/arch/i386/boot/install.sh and comment out this
section (it's at the very beginning after setting up a few
variables). you might also want to comment out the call to lilo at
the very end of the same file.
after you have built the new disk you should run lilo with chroot <new
disk>.
another problem you might run into: even after you have run lilo, you
might have problems booting on the other machine (i went through this
recently): make sure that both machines have the same bios. cutting a
boot floppy with the new kernel and using that for the first boot to
run lilo on the new machine would do the trick as well, as would a
good rescue floppy (in which case you would have to mount the new
drive manually, chroot into it and run lilo
hs
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From: David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel recompile needed, but Mandrake has modified the source...
Date: 24 Sep 2000 01:27:23 -0400
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce LaZerte) writes:
>
> According to the people at samba.org, I need the latest 2.2.18-9pre
> kernel patch and recompile so that smbfs will work properly wih our
> SMB server (OS/2, not samba).
>
> But linux-mandrake 7.1 (kernel 2.2.15-4mdk) only provides their
> modified source(-4mdk), and applying the 2.2.16 patch (from
> ftp.kernel.org) generates lots of errors.
Have you checked out Mandrake's website for updates?
I found a 2.2.16-9mdk kernel available for download. Get it from any of
their FTP mirrors. (Linked from http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ftp.php3)
You may be able to apply the patch to that kernel, since it is 2.2.16.
> Is there another linux distribution out there that only uses standard
> kernels, equivalent to those found on ftp.kernel.org? Given the
> monolithic linux kernel and the necessity to recompile it when
> updating certain device drivers, this would be nice feature.
Most other distributions do. Including RedHat and Slackware.
I use RedHat. AFAIK, they don't change the kernel sources at all in
their distribution.
-- David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: End-User Alternative to Windows
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 06:58:34 GMT
Luxury, luxury. You were allowed to use your teeth.
Why we had to use our teeth to....
On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 17:38:34 +0100, Garry Knight
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, chrisv wrote:
>>On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 00:44:05 +0100, Garry Knight
>><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>I remember sitting in my local launderette building a Forth-based OS for the
>>>Spectrum by writing opcodes into a pocket notebook (which, of course, in those
>>>days was made of paper). Ah, the good ol' days... :o)
>>
>>You think that's bad,
>
>I don't, actually. I loved every minute of it. And there's been no hope for me
>ever since... :o)
>
>>in tech school (early 80's) we each had to build
>>a simple Z80 computer. Programming this computer was done via direct
>>machine-code (of course). The really bad part was that loading the
>>program into memory consisted of flipping switches on a 8-position DIP
>>switch for each byte, followed by a press of a button to load that
>>byte in. Talk about stupid!
>
>Looks like we're headed for another re-run of Monty Python's "Three
>Yorkshiremen" sketch. "Luxury! When I were a lad we 'ad to bite code in't ROM
>wi' ower teeth!"...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daryl Fonseca-Holt)
Subject: Re: GLX extensions in RedHat Linux Xserver
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 08:33:40 -0500
I am not sure if this applies, it depends on which version of the Xserver you
are running in Linux. I use Xfree86 4.0.1. It has loaded modules for
extensions. My XF86Config file contains the lines:
# This loads the GLX module
Load "glx"
I am not sure how pre-4.0.0 versions make the extension available. It may be
through XF86Config or by compiling the server with different options.
On 19 Sep 2000 18:52:57 GMT, Raymond Phinney Jr
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I hope this question isn't too silly, but I am trying
>to get some software that was written by a programmer
>in my lab, who has since left, to work remotely.
>The program resides on an SGI running IRIX. I do
>an rlogin from my linux machine and when I try to
>run the program, I het the following message:
>
>Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display "lursa.cellbio.mcw.edu:0.0"
>
>How do I get the GLX extensions working?
>Thanks ever so much,
>
>Ray
>--
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>Raymond E. Phinney Jr., Ph.D.
>Post-Doctoral Research Associate
>Medical College of Wisconsin
>Deptartment of Cell Biology, Neurobiology, and Anatomy
>8701 Watertown Plank Road
>Milwaukee, WI 53226
>(414)456-4921
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>http://www.cmbn.rutgers.edu/~psycho/phinney.html
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
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From: "He Kun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Disk Druid
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 15:15:40 +0800
Why not use fdisk?It's more power than Disk Druid.
To run it ,just goto /sbin and type ./fdisk dev/hda
"Oleksandr Bozhyk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi all,
> How can I run Disk Druid in Red Hat 6.2 (in order to add a new
> partition) ?
> SY,
> Oleksandr Bozhyk
>
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From: Jan Johansson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: been hacked...have a question
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 07:28:20 GMT
>Coz if someone can spoof a trusted IP, then what can we do? Deny all
>access even to those we want to grant access to?
There is no such thing as a "trusted ip".
Run no unencrypted services, stick to crypted stuff. And make sure
noone actualy saves any password info on a box.
(Or, if you want security, use OpenBSD or FreeBSD. Open BSD has had no
remote exploits in three years, and only one localhost exploit :) (If
you stick to the standard install)
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From: Uncle Meat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: IP Masquerading
Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2000 19:31:06 -0600
In article <01c02572$cc28cfa0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Philippe BLATIERE"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, I am far from an expert but why do you use ipmasqadm : isn't ipchains
> is sufficient ?
> Are you sure ipmasqadm and kernel 2.2 are ok together ?
> I ask you that question because CUSeeMe, that does not work, is used with
> ipmasqadm
> And I know that ipfwadm does not work with kernel 2.2, may be the same with
> ipmasqadm ?
> May be am I saying something stupid ... may be not !!! this is my little
> help.
I have ipmasqadm running with RH6.2, kernel 2.2.17. It works fine.
I set it up to allow realplayer to work properly from a networked
MAC.
Also, I used ipfwadm for a few days with RH6.2 until I got ipchains
going. It worked fine.
In the case mentioned, not sure what the problem is. I'll go back and
see if I can see it. I can only guess it's not forwarding the right port
or there's something wrong with the line. Not sure I can find it. I
have no idea what port CUSEEME wants to use.
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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mpet player for linux 6.2
Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 00:51:57 -0700
> The Red Hat website says an mpeg video viewer is included in the
> distribution, i can't find it. where is it, what's the name of the
program? I
> only see mpg123, the mp2/mp3 player.
>
> If it is not in the distribution, where can i find the player?
I think 'mtv' is a fairly popular solution... but I've been using 'xmms'
lately.
'xmms' recently added an mpeg plugin (developed by 4Front Technologies)
also acts as a very nice mp3 player and cddb aware cd-player, nice
visualization plugins, etc.., etc... ;-)
check www.xmms.org and possibly www.freshmeat.net for any libraries you
might need - I needed to add the SDL libraries on my machine... aside from
the usual requirements for compiling xmms in the first place.
> thanks.
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
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