Linux-Misc Digest #866, Volume #25 Mon, 25 Sep 00 14:13:03 EDT
Contents:
Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Computer Performance Class (Perfskool)
Re: mkisofs and sub-directories (Duane)
gtk-lib inconsistencies: Try to compile xfce-3.5 (Ulrich Brachvogel)
Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Implications (Kaz Kylheku)
[OT] Re: Implications (Andreas K�h�ri)
Netscape problems (Filipe Bonjour)
Re: mkisofs and sub-directories (James Pearson)
Re: been hacked...have a question (Johan Kullstam)
Re: M$ OE5 and Linux (Garry Knight)
Re: SSH + RH 6.2 - Is RH secure and stable? (Rob McMillin)
Peer is not authorised to use remote address 165.21.207.5 ("Roger")
Re: Implications (Richard Caley)
Disk or Controller Error while installing RH6.1 (gkrpan)
long filenames in RH ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: inetd[642]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use (Villy Kruse)
Re: long filenames in RH (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Implications ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:40 GMT
In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> :>Here is the equation:
> :>
> :> X --> P --> E
>
> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
expressed using equations.
>
> : 1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
> : 2. comp.os.linux.misc
> : 3. comp.os.linux.setup
> : 4. comp.software.config-mgmt
>
> : I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but
uninteresting. The
> : presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents
remove any
> : doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal
ideas who is in
> : need of professional help.
>
> Amen. I couldn't follow the stream of thought, and if I couldn't, few
> people can. I think he is trying to say something connected with the
> old idea of maintaining a programs history
Configuration history, not program's history. Missing that would
indeed make it difficult to follow the stream of thought.
>along with its code. In, say,
> a functional programming environment (like unix!), this happens
naturally
> at the level of files when you rewrite code, so long as you are
careful
> to copy and modify the code, and not to modify it in situ, because
then
> the old inode is preserved. So long as it is referenced, it can be
> recovered! People have sometimes suggested or even tried turning "rm"
> into an operation like "mv foo hiddendir/foo.verN". He may even
> be suggesting the idea of doing this at the object level, whatever
> the object level is in the system in question(in unix, this IS the
file
> level). That could be lines of code, or even bytes.
>
> Hey! I understood that!
>
> Peter
X isn't P, and P isn't X.
I don't think you understand that X (the set of "install sources"
[install CDs, disks, tapes, procedures, documentation, etc.] required
to configure a given computer system) exists, or that it is interesting
to manage and understand this set, or that this set should be included
within a software architecture.
This is a bit theoretical. Theory may not interest you.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Perfskool)
Subject: Computer Performance Class
Date: 25 Sep 2000 16:13:34 GMT
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From: Duane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mkisofs and sub-directories
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:33:22 -0700
Diana Block wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> i try to make an iso image from the home directory:
> mkisofs -J -o /tmp/home.iso /home/*
> but after burning the cd with cdrecord there are no subdiretories.
> what�s going wrong?
> thanks for your help
> diana
Don't put the trailing /* there. Also, I am a little surprised you are
not also using Rock Ridge extensions when backing up home directories.
Here is the command I use:
mkisofs -R -l -J -o /tmp/home.iso /home
or alternatively:
mkisofs -R -l -J -o /tmp/home.iso /home/=/home/
The only thing the second command does is put everything into a
directory on the CD called home. That is especially handy when you have
a couple of separate directories to back up:
mkisofs -R -l -J -o /tmp/home.iso /home/=/home/
/libs/=/c/CapFast/library/xilinx/
Now the CD has two directories; one containing my backed up user files
and one containing my backed up library files.
--
My real email is akamail.com@dclark (or something like that).
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From: Ulrich Brachvogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gtk-lib inconsistencies: Try to compile xfce-3.5
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:23:57 +0200
Hi,
configure ends with following error-msg:
checking for strcasecmp... (cached) yes
checking for strncasecmp... yes
checking for gtk-config... /usr/local/bin/gtk-config
checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.3... *** GTK+ header files (version 1.2.8) do not
match
*** library (version 1.2.7)
no
configure: error: Cannot find GTK: Is gtk-config in path?
My installation is SuSE 6.3. The gtk-config --version says "1.2.7". I
installed gtk 1.2.8 from the SuSE 7.0 Distro. Gimp runs without problems.
Does anybody know where the header file version is kept?
TIA
// <( )
// \______//
// \____/ Ulrich Brachvogel
// / \ "Save The Curlew!"
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:21:31 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >Here is the equation:
> >
> > X --> P --> E
>
> [ snip ]
>
> >What part of this do you disagree with? It is this observation, and
the
>
> I disagree with the implicit claim that it's topical in any of these
fscking
> newsgroups:
>
> 1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 2. comp.os.linux.misc
> 3. comp.os.linux.setup
> 4. comp.software.config-mgmt
>
> I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but
uninteresting. The
> presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents
remove any
> doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal ideas
who is in
> need of professional help.
The posts are clearly about configuration management. That covers 3 and
4. The topic is clearly a bit theoretical in nature, that covers 2.
The observation has direct implications for understanding Open Source
development of new features, and understanding the nature of how these
features are be defined, selected, deployed, and managed over time.
That covers 1.
Other operating systems are building their own stories about their
systems. Generally, they claim you need one platform, supported by one
company, and that they know the best way to give you the functionality
you need for your applications.
On the other hand, with open source, it is possible to build an OS that
provides features that can be target dependent. That the best features
for a computer system can be selected from those available, without the
bloat of a system that must support all possible computer systems.
With open source, the important aspect of a given feature is what it
delivers. It is a merit system.
This isn't about how to build software. This is about understanding
what Linux is doing already. The power is in allowing people to pick
and choose the features (that genetic component my posts discuss) that
are the best for them, independent of who built those features, and get
a deployment that will work.
The posts are theoretical in nature. They do assume that Linux is
perhaps the best place to look for people that can consider and develop
new concepts. And perhaps on occasion deploy new ideas, if they hold
water. But nobody ever claimed (and I haven't) that every new idea or
concept should be considered by everybody.
Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kaz Kylheku)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:33:47 GMT
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> :>Here is the equation:
>> :>
>> :> X --> P --> E
>>
>> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
>
>Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
>expressed using equations.
No, troll. An equation is the proposition that two expressions are equal.
It's something that equates; the etymology is perfectly transparent to any
arrangements of two or more English speaking brain cells joined by a few
working synapses.
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: [OT] Re: Implications
From: Andreas K�h�ri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Sep 2000 18:39:57 +0100
In article <8qnsn2$op8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
>> :>Here is the equation:
>> :>
>> :> X --> P --> E
>>
>> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
>
>Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
>expressed using equations.
I thought I killfiled you... Oh, you have a Deja account too.
>
>>
>> : 1. comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> : 2. comp.os.linux.misc
>> : 3. comp.os.linux.setup
>> : 4. comp.software.config-mgmt
>>
>> : I'm seeing it through 4 where it is slightly topical, but
>uninteresting. The
>> : presence of 1 removes any doubt that you are a troll. The contents
>remove any
>> : doubt that you are a boring kook with uninteresting, unoriginal
>ideas who is in
>> : need of professional help.
>>
>> Amen. I couldn't follow the stream of thought, and if I couldn't, few
>> people can. I think he is trying to say something connected with the
>> old idea of maintaining a programs history
>
>Configuration history, not program's history. Missing that would
>indeed make it difficult to follow the stream of thought.
Use CVS for both documentation and code.
>
>>along with its code. In, say,
>> a functional programming environment (like unix!), this happens
>naturally
>> at the level of files when you rewrite code, so long as you are
>careful
>> to copy and modify the code, and not to modify it in situ, because
>then
>> the old inode is preserved. So long as it is referenced, it can be
>> recovered! People have sometimes suggested or even tried turning "rm"
>> into an operation like "mv foo hiddendir/foo.verN". He may even
>> be suggesting the idea of doing this at the object level, whatever
>> the object level is in the system in question(in unix, this IS the
>file
>> level). That could be lines of code, or even bytes.
>>
>> Hey! I understood that!
>>
>> Peter
>
>
>X isn't P, and P isn't X.
>
>I don't think you understand that X (the set of "install sources"
>[install CDs, disks, tapes, procedures, documentation, etc.] required
>to configure a given computer system) exists, or that it is interesting
>to manage and understand this set, or that this set should be included
>within a software architecture.
Ah, so X is the GNU/Linux distribution... P is what you installed from
it on your computer and E is segmentation fault that Netscape
generates (or in other words, the working environment).
>
>This is a bit theoretical. Theory may not interest you.
It's not theoretical, it's proto-theoretical.
Eh, whatsitcalled... philosophical.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, <URL:http://hello.to/andkaha/>. Junk mail, no.
========================================================================
What part of "GNU" did you not understand? <URL:http://www.gnu.org/>
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From: Filipe Bonjour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape problems
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:16:26 -0300
Hi,
I have been experiencing problems with Netscape (every version I tried,
up
to 4.75). I already posted this to another group sometime ago, but
didn't get
much response... I have MOZILLA_HOME defined and pointing to the right
directory (/usr/lib/netscape).
The problems are:
1. Netscape oftens complains that it can't find "java40.jar", even
though
it exists, is in /usr/lib/netscape/java/class (which is in
CLASSPATH),
and is readable by all.
2. This could be related. Often, Netscape displays images all garbled
(looks a little like "snow" on untuned TV channels, but in colour).
3. This looks unconnected, but you never know. Suppose I write an
e-mail,
then press the button to bring up the "Select address" window, then
select an address. When I press the "To:" button, Netscape quits.
Does anyone have any idea what's going on? I'd really appreciate any
help!
Thanks,
Fil
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From: James Pearson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mkisofs and sub-directories
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 16:37:55 GMT
In article <8qnm2a$31a$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Diana Block" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
> i try to make an iso image from the home directory:
> mkisofs -J -o /tmp/home.iso /home/*
> but after burning the cd with cdrecord there are no subdiretories.
> what�s going wrong?
Try:
mkisofs -J -o /tmp/home.iso /home
The "/home/*" will be expanded by the shell so each subdirectory of
/home becomes a source directory to mkisofs - so you get the contents of
each subdirectory at the top level of the CD.
James Pearson
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.security
Subject: Re: been hacked...have a question
From: Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 25 Sep 2000 12:52:28 -0400
MIchael Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> JDoe wrote:
> >
> > I guess a better question would be how to prevent this from happening
> > again.
>
> The first question is did it happen at all? He does not seem to be
> quite
> sure someone cracked his system. He has reported nothing certain.
>
> >
> > Coz if someone can spoof a trusted IP, then what can we do?
>
> If you 'trust' any IP outside your own subnet, you better do it VERY
> carefully. You can never 'trust' an IP outside your own subnet unless
> you have access to that network's servers. DNS is getting better. It
> still has a ways to go before we can trust the domain service
> completely.
i am not sure if DNS plays any role here. correct me if i'm wrong but
doesn't DNS basically map a string to an IP number? if you've already
got the IP number, then DNS is out of the loop.
--
J o h a n K u l l s t a m
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
sysengr
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From: Garry Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: M$ OE5 and Linux
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:36:42 +0100
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>The utility I used to convert the OE5 mailboxes is called "oe2mbx",
>which I think I downloaded from http://freshmeat.net/
I haven't been able to find a utility to convert mail held in Outlook 98 .pst
files to either MBX or MH format. Do you happen to know of any?
--
Garry Knight
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Rob McMillin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SSH + RH 6.2 - Is RH secure and stable?
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:10:37 -0700
Ethan Schwartz wrote:
> Is there any easy way to setup SSH (and eliminate unencrypted telnet logins
> completely) in Red Hat 6.2? I was hoping for a "point and click" (so to
> speak) solution...
I'm using ssh with all the patches using RPMs. Works great, lasts a long time.
--
http://www.pricegrabber.com | Dog is my co-pilot.
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From: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.portable,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Peer is not authorised to use remote address 165.21.207.5
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:35:58 +0800
Reply-To: "Roger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi. When I try to use Kppp to log on to the internet, I got the above
complain.
However, I am able to log on to he internet using netcfig > interface >
activate.
Is there something needs to be done?Please advise.
Thanks.
Roger
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From: Richard Caley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: 25 Sep 2000 18:14:27 +0100
In article <8qnsn2$op8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, paulsnx2 (p) writes:
>> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
p> Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
p> expressed using equations.
Er, that has to be the most bizzare statment I've read today, and it
has some serious competition.
--
Mail me as rjc not [EMAIL PROTECTED] _O_
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From: gkrpan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disk or Controller Error while installing RH6.1
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:17:18 GMT
I had a system fail last week that looked like a disk failure. Recieved
the following error messages while attempting to boot RedHat6.1:
Partition check:
hda: [PTBL] [256/255/63] hda1 hda2 < hda5hda: read_intr: status=0x59 {
DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error }
hda: read_intr: error=-0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=7614810,
sector=0
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error
}
hda: read_intr: error=-0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=7614810,
sector=0
hda: read_intr: status=0x59 { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Error
}
hda: read_intr: error=-0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=7614810,
sector=0
hda: read_intr: status=0x5b { DriveReady SeekComplete DataRequest Index
Error }
hda: read_intr: error=-0x10 { SectorIdNotFound }, LBAsect=7614810,
sector=0
ide0: reset timed-out, status=0x10
Suspecting a failed hard drive, I obtained a new one, installed it, and
went to re-install RedHat but recieved the same errors. The BIOS can
see the drive, but once RedHat starts the boot sequence, it spawns the
above errors a few times before it ends with a kernel panic. This
occurs even when booting from CD.
Since it happens when booting from a CD as well, does it sound like it
could be a controller gone bad?
Any ideas would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Greg.
btw- System is a Gateway 2000 with Pentium 133.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: long filenames in RH
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:45:43 GMT
Hi, Running Red Hat 6.1 as an apache intranet server
Copied across some html files from a windows box using an msdos floppy
Found that they've lost most of their filenames if they were over 8
characters
I thought that Linux supported long file names? If so how do I get it
to recognise that?
andy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: inetd[642]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use
Date: 25 Sep 2000 17:47:39 GMT
On 25 Sep 2000 10:43:38 GMT, Jan Bredereke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi Vinson,
>
>On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:25:35 GMT, Vinson Armstead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I have been noticing a large number of the below message in my log files. I
>> am not sure but it seem that my system thinks there is another system on the
>> network with same IP address it has?!?!?!?!?
>>
>> "inetd[642]: auth/tcp: bind: Address already in use"
>
>No. This message of the "bind" system call means that another
>process on the *same* machine has already grabbed the port in order
>to listen to incoming requests. The TCP port appears to be auth,
>i.e., 113 (see /etc/services). So the inetd process cannot bind to
>it. Look for another process providing auth services. (Maybe it is
>spawned by the inet daemon, too?)
>
Common problem when upgrading to RH6.1 or RH6.2. The identd is not
started from /etc/rc.d, and if it is also enabled in /etc/inetd.conf
you get the bind conflict. Disable it one of the places, probaly
by commenting out identd in /etc/inetd.conf.
Villy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: long filenames in RH
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:49:33 GMT
On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:45:43 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi, Running Red Hat 6.1 as an apache intranet server
>
>Copied across some html files from a windows box using an msdos floppy
>
>Found that they've lost most of their filenames if they were over 8
>characters
>
>I thought that Linux supported long file names? If so how do I get it
>to recognise that?
You mount the MSWindows floppy as vfat rather than MSDOS. As we all
well know, the MSDOS filesystem does not support large filenames;
instead, it supports only filenames in 8.3 format.
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:39:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:40 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <paulsnx2@my-
deja.com>
> wrote:
> >In article <8qioop$rqk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> In comp.os.linux.misc Kaz Kylheku <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> : On Sat, 23 Sep 2000 01:45:25 GMT, paul snow
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >wrote:
> >> :>Here is the equation:
> >> :>
> >> :> X --> P --> E
> >>
> >> It's not an equation. There is no equals sign.
> >
> >Equality is only one of a infinite number of concepts that can be
> >expressed using equations.
>
> No, troll. An equation is the proposition that two expressions are
equal.
> It's something that equates; the etymology is perfectly transparent
to any
> arrangements of two or more English speaking brain cells joined by a
few
> working synapses.
That's fine, and I stand corrected, at the etymology level. Still,
notation is flexible, allowing equations of the sort:
H(2) + O(2) --> H(2)O
Ref: http://library.thinkquest.org/3659/chmreact/equation.html
Perhaps you are bringing up a more relevant point, that in a chemical
formula, both sides express the totality of the reactants involved.
And when one goes to configure a computer system, one can not write:
X --> P
because there is no way to define the distribution of the various
software components in a set X. Such an X would (as implied by calling
this an equation, the term you object to) require that X account
completely for the construction of P.
Is that your point? Or are you just arguing?
Paul Snow
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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