Linux-Misc Digest #895, Volume #25               Fri, 29 Sep 00 05:13:02 EDT

Contents:
  Re: HELP! - Corel Linux install (Michel Catudal)
  Re: Netscape Communicator upgrade to 4.75 (Robert Lynch)
  Re: Redhat Download (Timothy Stark)
  fundraising software? (arif mamdani)
  Re: driver install problem (Bob Martin)
  Re: Linux Deployment Tools ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: mingetty ("mojo")
  Re: how can I do this? ("Andrew N. McGuire ")
  Re: List of RH7 iso mirrors  -- we need one ("Chowder")
  Re: Linux driver for Voodoo 5??? ("Justin Hamm")
  Re: laTex/TeX or groff for documents? (Martijn Brouwer)
  Re: pppd question (Lew Pitcher)
  Re: Get the Red Hat 7.0 iso's here (David_C)
  Re: rpm confusion (Villy Kruse)
  Re: Netscape Communicator upgrade to 4.75 (David_C)
  Re: Redhat Download (barth)
  Different Flavors of Linux (Tim)
  linux: plotting-proggy for color gradients? (Marcus Gastreich)
  California LUG needs speakers (William Kendrick)
  Re: Mandrake 7.1 (Chirag Kantharia)
  Re: Mandrake 7.1 ("Amit Kotwal")
  Re: Different Flavors of Linux (Richard Steiner)

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP! - Corel Linux install
Date: 28 Sep 2000 22:10:36 -0500

Glen Stromquist a �crit :
> 
> I tried the mount -tvfat /dev/hdb /home/win98, but still get an error.
> I don't think the disk is physically damaged because Norton showed it
> as ok, other than the boot sector.  I'll try the other commands you
> suggested and see what happens. When I ran fdisk then ran the l command
> on it the disk showed 1 big partition I think, there was a partition on
> hdb1 that I deleted with linux fdisk, prbably shouldn't have done that
> huh? I was going to delete the other linux partition using linux fdisk
> but thought I may lose all my data, (if I already hadn't by then).
> Interestingly, dos fdisk shows one big primary, active partition on the
> disk when I run it to show partition info.
> 
> I downloaded the demo version of Ontracks easyrecovery program and ran
> it just to look at the disk, it shows the drive as having one
> big "unknown" filesystem partition, and finds about 28 files and 19
> empty directories, so I dont know if that means the other files are
> toast or it just cant see them.
> 
> I am debating on whether or not to remove the linux partition using
> linux fdisk, but wouldn't that destroy the data for sure?
> 
> Even after all of this I am not soured on linux, (I'm familiar with and
> work with AIX), but I will be VERY carefull next time I install it on
> its own disk, in fact I will remove the win(lose) disk completely
> before doing this and use a boot utility instead of an os dual boot
> method. And I don't think Corel will be my choice!, although what I did
> see I liked, to be perfectly honest about it.
> 

It seems to me that recovering your data may be a problem. I will describe
a bit more what happened to me when I installed Corel and you may make a decision
as it seems to me that a similar thing happened to your hard disk.

My case was a bit different in the sense that I had Winblows 98,OS/2 and DRDOS on the
first drive and the fucked up drive was a 14G IBM drive on as second drive.

I first setup a 4G primary partition with partition magic. This was at the beginning
of the drive. I had SuSE Linux 6.3 on the rest of the drive and I had a boot disk for
SuSE. I was using the OS/2 boot manager to boot to different OS. When I went in the
install the Corel install refused to install on a freshly formatted partition and
I had no choice but let it remove said partition and recreate it. This was a deadly
mistake. When I rebooted I found out that the Corel install program had messed up
with the partition table. My boot of SuSE no longer appeared on the OS/2 boot manager
menu. I had installed almost all the linux distributions in existance in the past
and didn't foresee this and felt like kicking me in the ass considering that I had
made no backup whatsoever of my stuff that was on the SuSE partition.

I was relieved to find out that I could boot on a floppy. Apparently SuSE didn't give
a shit about what was written in the partition table, up to a certain point.

I tried to fix things with fdisk by removing the offending Corel partition but was
unable to save the info. fdisk told me that the partition table was corrupted.
I then proceeded in saving all my data to the other drive. I was not able to recreate
a correct drive partition table with the IBM software which told me that the 
information
in the bios and the disk didn't match. With SuSE fdisk I recreated a dos partition 
table.
This flushed all the disk but when I booted on OS/2 and DRDOS their fdisk as well as
partition magic were not happy with the disk. I repartitionned and reinstalled SuSE 6.3
Corel Linux ended up a frisbee.

You might be able to see the correct information by booting on a SuSE CD and
mounting the partitions. I think Corel doesn't read the partitions correctly.
You may be able to backup stuff.

If you don't want problems go for SuSE 7.0
I have used several distribution and this one is awesome, much better yet than
any of the previous SuSE. Keep note that the US 128 encription version of Netscape
4.75 is not on the CD but you can find it on SuSE's web site.

-- 
Tired of Microsoft's rebootive multitasking?
then it's time to upgrade to Linux.
http://www.netonecom.net/~bbcat/
We have software, food, music, news, search,
history, electronics and genealogy pages.

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From: Robert Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Communicator upgrade to 4.75
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:10:39 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

YY Lee wrote:
> 
> I use Mandrake 7.1 with Netscape Communicator 4.73.  I downloaded new
> Netscape Communicator 4.75 and installed it at '/opt/netscape'.  Somehow
> when I tried executing '/opt/netscape/netscape' it says:
> // start capturing --
> netscape: program is version 4.75, but resource are version 4.73.
> 
>    This means that there is an inappropriate `Netscape' file installed
>    in the app-defaults directory.  Check these environment variables
>    and the directories to which they point:
> 
>    $XAPPLRESDIR
>    $XFILESARCHPATH
>    $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH
> 
>    Also check for this file in your home directory, or in the
>    directory called `app-defaults' somewhere under /usr/lib/
> //end capturing --
> Is this mean the Netscape binaries are at '/usr/lib/netscape' and if it
> is, can I upgrade or overwrite the NC 4.73 to 4.75 without screwing up
> my whole system?

This means the wrong version of a file called "Netscape.ad" is
being found.  Search your disk for it, then try to delete the
older version.

HTH. Bob L.
-- 
Robert Lynch-Berkeley CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Timothy Stark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Download
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:12:31 GMT

Michael J. Johnston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does any know of a fast Redhat download mirror?  Every single site in that
> is listed with Redhat seems extremely slow.  I have a T3 connection and am
> looking for a much faster way to download the new Redhat 7.  Thanks!

Yeah. I have the same problem with my downloads.  I tried to download
Redhat 7 iso files from varying sites and resulted the same.  Other ftp
site that I recently downloaded a utility software and it was very fast.
Big difference!  With varying sites, avgs are 10K/sec because I have
high-speed DSL line.  It should be 80K/sec and a iso file download should
be completed for three to four hours.  With 10k/sec, it will take a day to
complete.  :-(

-- Tim Stark

-- 
Timothy Stark   <><     Inet: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
==========================================================================
"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that 
whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible)

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From: arif mamdani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: fundraising software?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:11:25 -0400

Hey folks,
just wondering if there was an open source equivalent of the popular
fundraising software, raiser's edge.

thanks,

-arif


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From: Bob Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: driver install problem
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:17:08 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>         I'm using Redhat6.1 and attempting to get a 3Com905b network
> card to work. There's no driver installed or availble in the
> distribution , so I downloaded one on mly windoze machine and put it

 You don't need to downoad anything, the NIC drivers are part the kernel
source. You should be using the 3c905x.o driver.
-- 

Bob Martin

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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux Deployment Tools
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:27:20 GMT


"J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:uWGA5.6386$tL4.130804@zonnet-reader-1...
> Hi.
>
>
> I am looking for tools that would help to deploy and manage Linux and
> replace M$-Windows. However, I have become rather accustomed to the
> deployment and management tools that the M$ world has to offer. Some
> examples of what I am looking for for Linux are:
>
>
> * Automated OS installation on a clean system, possibly in combination
with
> boot from network.
> * Automated hardware detection and installation during the automated OS
> install.
> * Scheduled and automated application installation, removal, and
> configuration.
> * wake up from lan.
> * Hardware and Software Inventory.
> * Centralized user management
>
>
> It would be nice if there was some kind of integrated deployment toolkit
out
> there, but I doubt there is. I guess that it will boil down to getting
> seperated packages that do *ONE* of these things, and then integrate it
all
> myself using shell-scripts and such?
>
> All information, tips, or links to web-sites on Linux Deployment and
> management in medium to large sites is more than welcome.

VA systemimager was just mentioned on freshmeat.net:
http://systemimager.sourceforge.net/
Also, note that Linux is much more robust than Windows about
boot-time adapation to new hardware so as long as the hardware
is close enough to boot up, you can get away with doing either
exact partition copies or tar type image copies of a working
system, then let kudzu fix up the differences at the first boot.

  Les Mikesell
    [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "mojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: mingetty
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:34:31 GMT

oops. mingetty. i was thinking about mgetty.  soory.
1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1  /bin/alogin


"mojo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:pfTA5.3901$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> i'm no expert but shouldn't that be
> 1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty ttyS1  /bin/alogin
>
> have u looked at /var/log/messages
> to give u more info as to what the error is.??
>
>
> "Tom Voltaggio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Someone told me about alogin to allow for
> > automatic login.
> >
> > This instructs you to modify the /etc/inittab as follows:
> > change
> > 1;2345 respawn:/sbin/mingetty ttty1
> > to
> > 1;2345 respawn:/sbin/mingetty ttty1  /bin/alogin
> >
> > When I do, I get an error on bootup which says that the
> > system is respawning too fast and shutting it down for 5
> > minutes.
> >
> > Any clue?  The docs for alogin only talk about agetty, or
> > mgetty, but not mingetty.
>
>



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From: "Andrew N. McGuire " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how can I do this?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:29:09 -0500

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, choi jinhyuk quoth:

cj> I want to record all messages including errors
cj> during compiling.
cj> how can I save normal outputs and errors or exit codes?

echo $0 | perl -wpe 's@^-@@' | xargs man # should tell you how

anm
-- 
$ENV{PAGER} = 'perl -wpe0';
system perldoc => '-t', '-F', $0;

=head1 
Just another Perl Hacker


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From: "Chowder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc,redhat.general
Subject: Re: List of RH7 iso mirrors  -- we need one
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:26:44 -0800

Well, here's a start...


ftp://ftp.freesoftware.com/pub/linux/redhat/redhat-7.0/i386/iso/
ftp://download.xs4all.nl/pub/mirror/redhat/redhat-7.0/i386/iso/



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From: "Justin Hamm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux,linux.help,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: Linux driver for Voodoo 5???
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 06:05:50 GMT

I have a voodoo5, I had to download XFree86 4.0.1 in order to get it to
work.
and it works perfectly.

"Kris Kundert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Brandon Hoppe wrote:
>
> > Is there a driver for Voodoo 5 or what driver will work?
> >
> > Thanx
> > Brandon
>
> Go to linux.3dfx.com
>
> I have never tried them since i dont have the card but i presume they
> will work.
>
> Kris K
>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martijn Brouwer)
Subject: Re: laTex/TeX or groff for documents?
Date: 29 Sep 2000 06:13:17 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (S.Brautaset) wrote in
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 

>
>Hope I'm not starting a flame-war here, but wich would be the prefered
>tool for writing short reports and essays? (The kind you hand in at
>universities.) I know that both can be used for typesetting whole books,
>but how is the learning curve for the both of them? And, I use emacs;
>TeX is best supported here, isn't it?
>
I don't want to add much to what is already said, but when you chose for 
LaTeX, take a look at www.lyx.org. LyX is a nearly WYSIWYG frontend for 
LaTeX, it is convenient and fast. Do yourselve a favour, and evade 
beginning to learn all those commmands.

-- 
________________________________________________________
Martijn Brouwer          [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: pppd question
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:25:17 -0400

Bill Unruh wrote:
> 
> In <8qt879$5u7$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> ]I have multiple "pppd"s running and each pppd process is "bound" to a
> ]56k modem.  (Modems are calling different places, so multilink ppp
> ]is neither an option nor an issue.)  My question is:
> ]Is there a way to "bind" a process,which uses TCP/IP, to a particular
> ]pppd so that it will use a certain specific modem?
> 
> No idea what you could mean. processes do not use specific modems. They
> use addresses. ppp is for transfering information from one system to
> another. You have to decide where that information is supposed to go.
> your route will then decide which modem to send that information out on.

The answer to his exact question ("Is there a way to "bind" a process,
which uses TCP/IP, to a particular pppd so that it will use a certain
specific modem?), is yes.

If he opens a socket() and bind()s it to the IP address of the ppp
adaptor of the specific modem he wants to communicate over, he can
accomplish his stated goal. The trick here will be to determine the
specific IP address of the ppp adaptor in question, so that the bind()
can be set up to connect to it alone.

-- 
Lew Pitcher

Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training

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From: David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Get the Red Hat 7.0 iso's here
Date: 29 Sep 2000 02:37:00 -0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Scott Alfter) writes:
> 
> Because 60 MB/s is nearly half of the bandwidth of a Gigabit Ethernet
> connection.  DSL and cable-modem connections are good for only a bare
> fraction of that (~50 kB/s incoming on the 512/128-kbps cable-modem
> connection I use, for instance).

You mean most people don't have OC-12 connectivity to the internet?  :-)

-- David

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: rpm confusion
Date: 29 Sep 2000 06:42:54 GMT

On Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:29:22 +0200,
       Martin Herrman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>when removing an rpm with the '-e' option, only use its name, without .rpm,
>thus:
>
>rpm -i packetname.rpm
>
>rpm -e packetname
>
>for upgrading, use: rpm -Uvh packetname.rpm
>



Or, to be more precise:  do "rpm -qp packetname.rpm" to get the name of
the package.  The file name that contains the packet need not have the
packetname appended with '.rpm' as the file name, althoug it often is.

"rpm -U" and "rpm -I" takes a rpm file name, whereas "rpm -q" and 
"rpm -e" takes a packet name.  Also "rpm -q -p" takes a file name and
is used to query the packet before installing.


Villy

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From: David_C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape Communicator upgrade to 4.75
Date: 29 Sep 2000 02:43:12 -0400

YY Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> I use Mandrake 7.1 with Netscape Communicator 4.73.  I downloaded new
> Netscape Communicator 4.75 and installed it at '/opt/netscape'.  Somehow
> when I tried executing '/opt/netscape/netscape' it says:
> // start capturing --
> netscape: program is version 4.75, but resource are version 4.73.
> 
>    This means that there is an inappropriate `Netscape' file installed
>    in the app-defaults directory.  Check these environment variables
>    and the directories to which they point:
> 
>    $XAPPLRESDIR
>    $XFILESARCHPATH
>    $XUSERFILESEARCHPATH
> 
>    Also check for this file in your home directory, or in the
>    directory called `app-defaults' somewhere under /usr/lib/
> //end capturing --
> Is this mean the Netscape binaries are at '/usr/lib/netscape' and if it
> is, can I upgrade or overwrite the NC 4.73 to 4.75 without screwing up
> my whole system?

Netscape uses the environment variable "MOZILLA_HOME" to point to the
root of the installation.  You can actually install it anywhere, as long
as you set this variable correctly.

On my system, I manually installed everything to
        /usr/local/package/netscape/communicator-4.7.5

I then created a quick shell script (/usr/local/bin/netscape) to launch
it with.  The script is:

        #!/bin/sh

        MOZILLA_HOME=/usr/local/package/netscape/communicator-4.7.5
        export MOZILLA_HOME
        /usr/local/package/netscape/communicator-4.7.5/netscape $*

Everything works fine.  When I install new versions, I just change the
script to point to the new directory and let 'er rip.  When I'm
confident that the new version works, I then (and only then) delete the
directory with the older version.

-- David

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From: barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat Download
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:14:45 +0200

> Yeah. I have the same problem with my downloads.  I tried to download
> Redhat 7 iso files from varying sites and resulted the same.  Other ftp
> site that I recently downloaded a utility software and it was very fast.
> Big difference!  With varying sites, avgs are 10K/sec because I have
> high-speed DSL line.  It should be 80K/sec and a iso file download should
> be completed for three to four hours.  With 10k/sec, it will take a day to
> complete.  :-(

I tried each mirror from the mirror list on the redhat.com web site...I found
only crap. I manage to download it at 60K/s from a ftp which wasn't list there.
Most of the anonymous ftp of ISP have a mirror of ftp.redhat.com and are not in
the mirror list...


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From: Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Different Flavors of Linux
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:30:17 -0000

I am new to the Linux world and am terribly confused by all the versions 
of Linux that are available.  Can someone please tell me what the 
difference is between lets say Red Hat Linux and Mandrake Linux?  Red Hat 
Linux and Corel's version?  Etc.  

Thanks!

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Marcus Gastreich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.misc
Subject: linux: plotting-proggy for color gradients?
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:40:23 +0200

hello.

i am searching a programme that may 
plot surfaces with colour gradients
according to acscii input like this:

x       y       z       depth
data    data    data    data

or

x       y       depth
data    data    data

the depth column should be plotted
as colour-coded. (so, i would like
to have a surface which is 'covered'
by a colour gradient.)
presumably, huge packages as maple
and such could do the job, but, please:
is there something simpler?

many thanks for your hints,
best wishes,
                marcus



********************************************************************************
Marcus Gastreich                    Tel.: ++49-228-73-5375
Lehrstuhl f.Theor.Chemie Uni Bonn   Fax.: ++49-228-73-9066
Wegelerstr. 12                      e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
53115 Bonn, Germany                
http://www.thch.uni-bonn.de/tc/people/gastreich.marcus

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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: California LUG needs speakers
Crossposted-To: ucd.cs.club,ucd.cs.programming,ucd.ece.ieee,ucd.life
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 08:41:45 GMT


LUGOD, the Linux Users' Group of Davis, is currently looking for
people willing to speak at our upcoming meetings.

Meetings are held in the evening (6:30pm) on the 1st Tuesday and 3rd Monday
of each month in Davis, California (just west of Sacramento).


Topics our members have shown interest in include:

* Compiler Design
* Linux vs. Other Unix'es
* Linux vs. Windows
* Linux's memory utilization
* The POSIX Standard
* Using "autoconf/automake"
* Setting up sendmail/smail/qmail
* VMWare demonstration
* MySQL
* Gnutella
* PHP
* CVS
* Kernel Hacking
* Functional Programming (eg LISP/ML)


For full descriptions of these topics, see:

  http://www.lugod.org/meeting/wishlist/


For information on our meeting facilities, see:

  http://www.lugod.org/meeting/facilities/


To see what meeting dates have already been booked, see:

  http://www.lugod.org/meeting/upcoming/



If you or someone you know can talk at an upcoming meeting, e-mail me:

  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Thank you!


-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/

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Crossposted-To: iitb.systems
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chirag Kantharia)
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:31:17 GMT

On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:10:03 +0530, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|I need Mandrake Linux 7.1...ftp.cc... only has the .iso files (which may

correction here: it's not ftp.cc but mercury.it

|Better still, can anyone
|tell me how I could download the entire Mandrake 7.1 folder from the ftp
|servers listed on the linux-mandrake.com site? I don't get a 'copy' option
|to copy the entire folder (using IE 5.0), and to download all the files
|by individually clicking on each one of them is simply impossible ;-)

download the iso image then then mount it on a directory:

(under linux)# mount -t iso9660 -o loop=/dev/loop0 mandrake71-inst.iso /mnt

chyrag.
-- 
Chirag Kantharia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://slashetc.net/chyrag/


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Crossposted-To: iitb.systems
From: "Amit Kotwal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7.1
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:59:53 GMT


ASHISH SHAH(97010022) wrote in message ...
>
>I need Mandrake Linux 7.1...ftp.cc... only has the .iso files (which
may
>be burnt on a CD). Does anyone have it on a CD? Better still, can
anyone
>tell me how I could download the entire Mandrake 7.1 folder from the
ftp
>servers listed on the linux-mandrake.com site? I don't get a 'copy'
option
>to copy the entire folder (using IE 5.0), and to download all the files
>by individually clicking on each one of them is simply impossible ;-)
>

Use WS-FTP to download the whole folder. Check out
ftp://ftp.it.iitb.ernet.in/pub/systems/windows/Webutils/downloaders/

- Amit




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Richard Steiner)
Subject: Re: Different Flavors of Linux
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:57:06 -0500

Here in comp.os.linux.misc, Tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> spake unto us, saying:

>I am new to the Linux world and am terribly confused by all the versions 
>of Linux that are available.  Can someone please tell me what the 
>difference is between lets say Red Hat Linux and Mandrake Linux?  Red Hat 
>Linux and Corel's version?  Etc.

Each Linux distribution generally uses the same Linux kernel (the core
of the operating system), so they all run the same software, but each
has its own set of installation tools and system configuration tools,
and each comes with its own collection of software (picked by whoever
created the distribution).

Red Hat's main focus is the server market with a bit of a noc towards
the desktop, while Mandrake is focused on desktop users.

Mandrake was originally little more than a repackaged Red Hat with a
few additional items (like KDE) that Red Hat didn't include, but over
time the two have diverged quite a bit.

-- 
   -Rich Steiner  >>>--->  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>>--->  Bloomington, MN
      OS/2 + BeOS + Linux + Solaris + Win95 + WinNT4 + FreeBSD + DOS
       + VMWare + Fusion + vMac + Executor = PC Hobbyist Heaven! :-)
           Do you believe in subliminal (fnord) taglines?

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    ftp.funet.fi                                pub/Linux
    tsx-11.mit.edu                              pub/linux
    sunsite.unc.edu                             pub/Linux

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