Linux-Misc Digest #895, Volume #26 Tue, 23 Jan 01 03:13:01 EST
Contents:
mail servers ("Michael J. M. Maranda")
Re: mail servers ("Michael J. M. Maranda")
ssh connection ("Chris")
Re: mail servers (David)
Networking strange problems! ("Londonboy")
Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: mail servers (Ray)
Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition? (Donald Arseneau)
Re: Linux on Athlon (drumvudu)
Re: Networking strange problems! (Rick Devey)
Re: Deleting KDE menu item (drumvudu)
Re: where to get files? (drumvudu)
Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm ("tonygroff")
Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition? (Eric)
Re: unresolved symbols with modules (Markus Haas)
Java and Mozilla 0.7 ("D. D. Brierton")
Re: mac diskette? (Markus Haas)
Re: bzip, rpm files in Windows (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
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From: "Michael J. M. Maranda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: mail servers
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:06:59 GMT
greetings,
I am relatively new to Linux (but have some familiarity with Unix)
I have begun setting up some linux servers in our office
redhat 7 and Debian GNU.
At our office we now have DSL which is (pretty much) always on (780/360
ADSL).
We have approximately 23 PCs on the office LAN, and may add 10-20 more in
the next year or two.
What I am wondering is how to decide what software would be best to use as a
mail server.
Am I correct that I can use separate servers (and server software) for
sending and receiving the organizations email?
Any recommendation on which mail server software for linux would be
appreciated... including books perhaps... if not an actual recommendation,
maybe you can suggest the criteria to keep in mind.
Thanks!!
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From: "Michael J. M. Maranda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail servers
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:07:52 GMT
BTW...
All clients are Win 98...
and there is one WinNT PDC (for now)
"Michael J. M. Maranda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Tj8b6.5812$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> greetings,
>
> I am relatively new to Linux (but have some familiarity with Unix)
>
>
> I have begun setting up some linux servers in our office
>
> redhat 7 and Debian GNU.
>
>
> At our office we now have DSL which is (pretty much) always on (780/360
> ADSL).
>
> We have approximately 23 PCs on the office LAN, and may add 10-20 more in
> the next year or two.
>
> What I am wondering is how to decide what software would be best to use as
a
> mail server.
>
> Am I correct that I can use separate servers (and server software) for
> sending and receiving the organizations email?
>
> Any recommendation on which mail server software for linux would be
> appreciated... including books perhaps... if not an actual recommendation,
> maybe you can suggest the criteria to keep in mind.
>
> Thanks!!
>
>
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From: "Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ssh connection
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:16:44 -0500
Anyone have any ideas on what I should look at when trying to determine why
at some times, it takes forever to connect via ssh to my linux box, which
resides on my local land, in fact its on the box that is under my winbox.
--
Chris Lee
CS1312 T.A.
CS1312 Webmaster
"I had this thing for kangaroos because of the versatility of the pouch" -
cm
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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mail servers
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 05:46:39 GMT
"Michael J. M. Maranda" wrote:
>
> BTW...
>
> All clients are Win 98...
>
> and there is one WinNT PDC (for now)
This shouldn't matter since email is all SMTP. You might want to take a
look at "qmail" it is fast and more secure than "sendmail".
http://www.qmail.org/
--
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more W/U's than 99.015% of seti users. +/- 0.01%
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From: "Londonboy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Networking strange problems!
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:35:30 GMT
I am running Linux Redhat with 1 NIC with default setup, connecting the
RedHat to a hub, and the hub connects to my cable modem. This is my problem:
1. Internet connection works fine, the RJ45 cable connects to the hub, the
light is "on" on the hub
2. Unplug the RJ45 cable which connects the Redhat server to hub
3. Wait for 1-2 hours
4. Plug the RJ-45 cable back in
5. The light goes out on the hub!!!??? and I don't have internet connection
anymore
6. To resolve this, I need to do /etc/init.d/network restart (or reload)
I tried it on Redhat 6.1 and 7.0, they have the same problem. Also, it
doesn't matter if the NIC is running DHCP client or Static IP (using
192.168.0.x), I tried both, have the same problem too.
Any idea? and how can I fix it? It doesn't happen to Microsoft windows NT
Server /9x.
Please help. help.....
N.B.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:32:26 GMT
Yeah, it will copy everything, the mbr/lilo, the partition table, and
your files. If there is extra space hanging off the end, make a
partition and mount it somewhere. If its just extra space for mp3's,
etc, I like /space
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I want to migrate to a new hard drive that I have bought but do not
want
> > to lose any of the additions/customizations I have in my current
> > installation. What is the best way to do this. I currently am
running
> > Red Hat 6.2. Would dd or cpio be the best way?
> >
> > Also, while on the subject is there a way to identify modifications
to a
> > running installation similar to what Sequent and other unix vendors
have
> > with bomverify (Bill of Materials Verification)?
> >
>
> It's amazing how much MISINFORMATION you can get from NGs. Without
getting
> into a bunch of technical crap, let me just say that the instructions
I
> gave you make use of an undocumented feature of cp. Follow my
> instructions. Swap the drive. See what happens. If you have a
problem,
> you can swap your original drive back. All the other posts are
> misinformed. I have tested this technique and it not only works on
Linux
> partitions, but will work on a Windows/Linux dual-boot system.
>
> --
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>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ray)
Subject: Re: mail servers
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 06:42:23 -0000
I'm not sure what's current on the Red Hat side but on the Debian box I'd
use Exim for sending mail (smtp) and Qpopper(Pop3) to serve mail to your
clients. There's also an imap if your clients prefer that. There are
others included with Debian but those work fine for me.
--
Ray
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From: Donald Arseneau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition?
Date: 22 Jan 2001 23:09:15 -0800
MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> It's amazing how much MISINFORMATION you can get from NGs. Without getting
> into a bunch of technical crap, let me just say that the instructions I
> gave you make use of an undocumented feature of cp. Follow my
> instructions.
[cp /dev/hda /dev/hdb ]
I wouldn't call that an undocumented feature of cp, but a feature
of *nix treating everything as a file.
Anyway, I'd like to add some information, or maybe it is just
technical crap:
When you do the copy, you should boot from a rescue floppy, so
the filesystems on the hdd are not active.
Donald Arseneau [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: drumvudu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Athlon
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:07:01 GMT
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM what?!?!?!?
"Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and
plain dealing"...Ralph Waldo Emerson
"It takes a wonderful brain and exquisite senses to produce a few
stupid ideas"...George Santayana
Confucious say "If you play in root,
eventually you will kill tree"...anonymous
SuSE 7.0 2.2.16
Linux: t h e c h o i c e o f a
G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001, John Peach Pulled His hand out of his pocket and...:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Tobias Schenk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> |>On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 23:12:19 +1100, Pat Heuvel
> |><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |>
> |>>Gday Eric,
> |>>
> |>>Eric Headley wrote:
> |>>>
> |>>> I am thinking of buying a new machine with an Athlon chip instead of a
> |>>> Pentium 4. Are there any problems with running Linux on Athlon ?
> |>>>
> |>>
> |>>Absolutely - you'll never want to log off - your SO will crack the sads
> |>>and you'll be in deep doo-doo. The mongrel thing screams.
> |>>
> |>Could you please translate that so that a poor german can understand
> |>it. You talk to me in riddles.
>
> Never mind German; I'm British, living in the US and I don't understand
> it :-(
>
> |>
> |>Thank you
> |>
> |>Tobias.
>
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From: Rick Devey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Networking strange problems!
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 00:19:43 -0700
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I have had the same problem with RedHat7.0. What I have
done is just to reconfigure the network interface.
ay it is eth0 I have just done
ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.x up netmask 255.255.255.0
and it seemed to work without rebooting for me.
Rick
Londonboy wrote:
>
> I am running Linux Redhat with 1 NIC with default setup, connecting the
> RedHat to a hub, and the hub connects to my cable modem. This is my problem:
>
> 1. Internet connection works fine, the RJ45 cable connects to the hub, the
> light is "on" on the hub
> 2. Unplug the RJ45 cable which connects the Redhat server to hub
> 3. Wait for 1-2 hours
> 4. Plug the RJ-45 cable back in
> 5. The light goes out on the hub!!!??? and I don't have internet connection
> anymore
> 6. To resolve this, I need to do /etc/init.d/network restart (or reload)
>
> I tried it on Redhat 6.1 and 7.0, they have the same problem. Also, it
> doesn't matter if the NIC is running DHCP client or Static IP (using
> 192.168.0.x), I tried both, have the same problem too.
>
> Any idea? and how can I fix it? It doesn't happen to Microsoft windows NT
> Server /9x.
>
> Please help. help.....
>
> N.B.
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From: drumvudu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Deleting KDE menu item
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:10:42 GMT
Use Kmenuedit, it's buggy, but it will do the job...
"Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and
plain dealing"...Ralph Waldo Emerson
"It takes a wonderful brain and exquisite senses to produce a few
stupid ideas"...George Santayana
Confucious say "If you play in root,
eventually you will kill tree"...anonymous
SuSE 7.0 2.2.16
Linux: t h e c h o i c e o f a
G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, Dennis Fenton Pulled His hand out of his pocket and...:
> I installed Corel Office 2000 and then decided I didn't want it. It and
> all its components are still listed in the KDE menu. I deleted every
> file and directory I could find related to the Corel suite but the
> program group and icons are still there in the menu. How can I get rid
> of them?
>
>
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From: drumvudu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: where to get files?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:11:37 GMT
rpmfind.com..
"Nothing astonishes men so much as common sense and
plain dealing"...Ralph Waldo Emerson
"It takes a wonderful brain and exquisite senses to produce a few
stupid ideas"...George Santayana
Confucious say "If you play in root,
eventually you will kill tree"...anonymous
SuSE 7.0 2.2.16
Linux: t h e c h o i c e o f a
G N U g e n e r a t i o n . . .
On Tue, 23 Jan 2001, gman1 Pulled His hand out of his pocket and proclaimed:
> I have redhat 7.0(fully installed)....
> I downloaded kde 2.0.1, qt 2.2, etc... from KDE....
> to install KDE I need:
> libjscript.so.2
> libkdecore.so.2
> libkdevi.so.2
> libkfile.so.2
> libkfm.so.2
> libkhtmlw.so.2
> libkimgio.so.2
> libmediatool.so.2
>
> Where the heck are they? Where does everyone get all their miscellanous
> RPMS from? I know their has to be a site out there that lets you get
> any files you need....
>
> thanks in advance....
>
>
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Reply-To: "tonygroff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "tonygroff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Protect yourself! I got hacked by the Ramen worm
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:41:48 -0600
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install,comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc,alt.os.linux
"Jan Johansson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >It wiped out all of my index.html with the Ramen worm webpage.
> >I had to do an upgrade of all the RH7.0 packages I installed. (2
hours
> >of work)
> >I had to get all personal index.html from my quite recent backup.
> >I wrote to www.digitaldesk.com because they said it was a
beneficial
> >worm in their news story.
> >What a shitty story!!!
> >The Ramen work causes too much damage to my computer.
> >
>
> Hmm, lets see here, you didnt check for security updates before
> connecting to the internet?
>
<smart ass comment>
Um... if you have to connect to the Internet to check for security
updates... how are you supposed check for security updates before
connecting to the Internet? :)
</smart ass comment>
Sorry folks, it's late and I'm a little punchy :)
Tony G.
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Best way to replicate Linux partition?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:35:52 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> It's amazing how much MISINFORMATION you can get from NGs. Without getting
> into a bunch of technical crap, let me just say that the instructions I
> gave you make use of an undocumented feature of cp.
No MISINFORMATION, just misreading.
You're right, the -a switch is not needed in this case.
> Follow my
> instructions. Swap the drive. See what happens. If you have a problem,
> you can swap your original drive back. All the other posts are
> misinformed.
No they are not, they do things differently
> I have tested this technique and it not only works on Linux
> partitions, but will work on a Windows/Linux dual-boot system.
As does a cp -a from mountpoint AA to mountpoint BB.
This would even be a better solution (IMO), as you don't copy all
the irrelevant inaccesible data, a FS gathers while in use.
copying from the mountpoints, only copies the data, and wont do
strange things like copying the MBR/removed files etc.
Eric
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From: Markus Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: unresolved symbols with modules
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:50:54 -0600
What may be happening is that you have some modules that are left over
in /lib/modules/<kernel version> from the stock kernel installation that
you took out of your new kernel when you reconfigured it. You can take
care of this by wiping /lib/modules/<kernel version> and doing a make
modules_install from /usr/src/linux. This will rebuild the modules tree
including only the ones configured in your current kernel. (assuming you
did a make modules before)
Markus
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Robert Schweikert wrote:
>
> I just got a RedHat6.2 distro installed on a dual boot (NT & Linux)
> machine. Since the stock kernel 2.2.14-5 did not have support for NTFS I
> recompiled the kernel, edited lilo.conf etc. However, when I boot up I
> get loads of unresolved symbol messages. The messages appear to be
> originating from the stock kernel, which was 2.2.14-5.0smp. All
> unresolved symbol messages refer to a path with that kernel version in
> it.
>
> I figure this has something to do with System.map and/or module-info,
> both links pointing to stuff from the original kernel. I know there is a
> new System.map file in /usr/src/linux and that file was copied to /boot.
> Then the link from System.map was changed to point to the new System.map
> file, this however didn't appear to take hold, after rebooting I still
> got all the unresolved symbol messages and looking at the link of
> System.map it was reset to point to the original smp kernel again.
>
> Any help to fix this is appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Robert
>
> --
> Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: "D. D. Brierton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Java and Mozilla 0.7
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 07:50:08 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Does anybody else have problems with Java and Mozilla 0.7? Mozilla 0.7 and
Galeon 0.9pre2 are both working really well on my system. Mozilla 0.7 seems
to me to be a vast improvement over Mozilla M18. However, Java is not working
at all and has not been since M18. If I visit a page with a Java app on it
there is much whirring and grinding and them Mozilla crashes; I have the same
problem with galeon. If I start Mozilla from the command line I get various
messages about registering plugins and then the message "Failed to create
Java VM".
The Java VM was installed by Mozilla M18 the first time I tried to visit a
page with a Java applet on it. I have no idea how to check the installation,
or how to uninstall it and re-install a possibly newer one. Are the above
problems familiar ones which others are experiencing, or is there something
wrong specifically with my setup?
--
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D. D. Brierton Department of Philosophy, University of Edinburgh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~ddb
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From: Markus Haas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: mac diskette?
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 01:56:19 -0600
Is it possible that the Mac doesn't like the files because there isn't a
valid resource fork for the files? I've run into a similar situation
where that was the problem. I fixed it by running a Mac utility that
generates resource forks if you tell it what kind of file it is.
Markus
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Alexandros Sklavos wrote:
>
> Hallo,
> I have downloaded to my linux machine some .image files from
> installation diskettes of System 7.0 of Mac. I've succeded in extracting
> the necessary .image files, but now, I don't know of how to get them oln
> diskette.
> I 've tryied
> dd if=Install1.image of=/dev/fd0
> but my mac won't accept it...
>
> Any ideas?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thaddeus L Olczyk)
Subject: Re: bzip, rpm files in Windows
Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 08:04:44 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 22 Jan 2001 19:31:37 +0100, Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Thaddeus L Olczyk wrote:
>
>> OK. Sorry to bring up "the other platform", but since
>> bzip and rpm are Linux tools I feel this forum is appropriate.
>> Are there any tools out there that will allow me to view bzip
>> and rpm files on Windows, similar to WinZip?
>
>Hello,
>
>"other platform" you mean this wintendo thing from Redmond, I would
>hardly call it an platform or even OS...
>
>IMHO rpm should be contained in the cygwin package for Windows...
>
>bzip2?
>
>http://www.google.com/search?q=Windows+bzip2+software+download&hl=en&lr=&safe=off
>
>Try to use a search engine...
>
>Good luck
>
Actually I had already checked with WinFiles and Tucows, but I didn't
find anything I liked there. I was hoping someone would know of
something better.
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