Linux-Misc Digest #895, Volume #27 Sat, 19 May 01 05:13:01 EDT
Contents:
Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS (Dave Uhring)
RHL7.0 and PHP4: Apache config file problem: file extensions (Neil Zanella)
Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS ("muzh")
Re: java rpm on mandrake 8 ("Robert L")
Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS ("Joe Bean")
Who to install a .gz.tar file? (Lamar Thomas)
Re: Thai fonts and Thai keyboard layout under linux/kde2 ("Claus Zimmermann")
Re: problem with upgrading rpm ("Peter T. Breuer")
create your own GNU/Linux distro on 3 floppies (Chris Majewski)
Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS (Jim Cochrane)
Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file? (Jim Cochrane)
HELP with makefile (wroot)
should i use use Framebuffer? (Ray)
Re: A CPU cooler for Linux? (Esa Tikka)
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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 00:05:08 -0500
Don Hinds wrote:
> I basically quit even trying to get Mandrake 7 to work properly.
>
> 1) I can boot GUI, but in non-gui, even in FAILSAFE it locks up with a
> Kernel Panic.
>
> 2) There is no option to use a modem (Linux USB supported modem) on USB
> port, or perhaps I should say there is no option to use USB for the modem.
> There are 4 (as I recall) port options for modem including serial, but USB
> is not on the list.
>
> 3) Corel WP will not install. Not the one on the Mandrake 6.5 CD, nor the
> one on Corel website. I get a load of directories or path not found
> errors.
>
> 4) Corel PhotoPaint installs but gives a FontTastic (missing) error when I
> try
> to run it. I tried the Corel website and UK Linux User CD versions.
>
> I've posted all these problems in more detail in the past, but no one has
> any
> workable answers. ;-(
>
> If I can't acutally USE Linux, it doesn't matter a whole lot if it doesn't
> crash. Windows 95/98/ME may crash a lot, but between times IT WORKS!
>
> Don
>
>
This thing is obviously a troll. Please don't feed the troll.
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From: Neil Zanella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RHL7.0 and PHP4: Apache config file problem: file extensions
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 02:07:57 -0230
The /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file that comes with RHL7.0 contains the
following lines (see below). This is pointless as Red Hat 7.0 does not
install PHP/FI which is now outdated and does not install PHP3 either
but does install PHP4 which is broken up into the packages php-ldap,
mod_php, php, php-imap, php-mysql, php-pgsql, and php-manual. Hence
the PHP/FI and perhaps also the PHP3 lines should have been commented
out by the RPM spec file as I can now use .php3 extensions but not
.php or .php4 extensions for files to be correctly interpreted by the
Apache web server and I am not root on the system hence I cannot change
this. Has this problem been fixed in Red Hat 7.1?
Thanks!
# The following is for PHP4 (conficts with PHP/FI, below):
<IfModule mod_php4.c>
AddType application/x-httpd-php .php4 .php3 .phtml .php
AddType application/x-httpd-php-source .phps
</IfModule>
# The following is for PHP3:
<IfModule mod_php3.c>
AddType application/x-httpd-php3 .php3
AddType application/x-httpd-php3-source .phps
</IfModule>
# The following is for PHP/FI (PHP2):
<IfModule mod_php.c>
AddType application/x-httpd-php .phtml
</IfModule>
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From: "muzh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 17:08:26 +1200
My experience with Linux has been really good.
My experience with Mandrake has been really bad.
Improper drivers, can't connect to internet -- etc, etc.
I would suggest your problem is with Mandrake, and not necessarily with
Linux.
In article <3VeN6.1045$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Don Hinds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I basically quit even trying to get Mandrake 7 to work properly. 1) I
> can boot GUI, but in non-gui, even in FAILSAFE it locks up with a
> Kernel Panic.
> 2) There is no option to use a modem (Linux USB supported modem) on USB
> port, or perhaps I should say there is no option to use USB for the
> modem. There are 4 (as I recall) port options for modem including
> serial, but USB is not on the list.
> 3) Corel WP will not install. Not the one on the Mandrake 6.5 CD, nor
> the one on Corel website. I get a load of directories or path not found
> errors. 4) Corel PhotoPaint installs but gives a FontTastic (missing)
> error when I try to run it. I tried the Corel website and UK Linux User
> CD versions. I've posted all these problems in more detail in the past,
> but no one has any workable answers. ;-(
> If I can't acutally USE Linux, it doesn't matter a whole lot if it
> doesn't crash. Windows 95/98/ME may crash a lot, but between times IT
> WORKS!
> Don
>
--
Never trust a man in a suit --
cll
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From: "Robert L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: java rpm on mandrake 8
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 02:19:04 -0400
"zaki" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi
> I downloaded the j2sdk from the sun website, and I downloaded the redhat
> rpm(compatible with mandrake?), I run the sript and it produced an rpm
> file for me. I then used :
> rpm -i <package_name> and after a while I got the prompt back. Where do
> I go from there?
> When I type java or javac it is not recognized and I tried to use :
> whereis java with no results...when i try to install it again the same
> way it says already installed...
> I guess I need to set some path variables? but I dont know how to do
> that and I dont know where is the java folder...
> Thanks
I added the path to /etc/profile and it works for me. You could also add it
to ~/.bashrc would would work for the bash shell run as that user. It seems
to over ride the path in /etc/profile which confused me until I realized why
the new path I added in /etc/profile didn't work (still had an older path in
.bashrc.)
I don't know where the rpm installs, I used the .bin file. My java is in
/usr/local/java. Do a search in /usr for starters. Apparently some
distributions deposit in /opt/....
I am far from 'experienced', but these are what I have gleaned from others
Robert L
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From: "Joe Bean" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:10:38 -0700
Maybe the guy isn't a 1337 H@X0R like you guys and maybe he is just a
average Joe. Am about ready to give up playing around with Mandrake 8.0 and
go back to Windows myself. Hell I'll be the first to admit am a newbie to
Linux and all ( 3 months of messing with Linux ) but it seems to me from
right off the bat that Linux distro's that claim to be working towards ease
of use have a longs way to go. You know not everything worth using has to be
mind numbly difficult or overly complex. There's a lot of things I like
about Linux like the freedom of development it allows programmers to access
the OS so they can build apps that work without the added layer of junk
coding that MS has and the it's reliable networking and fast TCP/IP stacks.
Despite those pros I think for average people like me who do not have the
time and patience to wade through vast amount of reading material just to
get a video card or network card to work. MS Windows allows us to get a lot
done without having to get or hands dirty. To me this is kind of like the
difference between people who like fixing and customizing there own car and
the people who like taking there cars to their local mechanic to fix it. For
some it maybe fun or just a hobby and even a way to make money but for
others who do not have the know how, knowledge or time to learn how to do
such things. Having someone else do the hard work for us is whole lot easier
and covenant.
P.S. You ELITIST LINUX ( not everyone here. ) USERS can me flame all you
want for my opinion but I don't care.
"Don Hinds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:3VeN6.1045$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I basically quit even trying to get Mandrake 7 to work properly.
>
> 1) I can boot GUI, but in non-gui, even in FAILSAFE it locks up with a
Kernel
> Panic.
>
> 2) There is no option to use a modem (Linux USB supported modem) on USB
> port, or perhaps I should say there is no option to use USB for the modem.
> There are 4 (as I recall) port options for modem including serial, but USB
is
> not on the list.
>
> 3) Corel WP will not install. Not the one on the Mandrake 6.5 CD, nor the
one
> on Corel website. I get a load of directories or path not found errors.
>
> 4) Corel PhotoPaint installs but gives a FontTastic (missing) error when I
try
> to run it. I tried the Corel website and UK Linux User CD versions.
>
> I've posted all these problems in more detail in the past, but no one has
any
> workable answers. ;-(
>
> If I can't acutally USE Linux, it doesn't matter a whole lot if it doesn't
> crash. Windows 95/98/ME may crash a lot, but between times IT WORKS!
>
> Don
>
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From: Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
linux.redhat.misc,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Who to install a .gz.tar file?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 07:15:27 GMT
I am running RH 7.1 on an Intel system. I am trying to get me CDRW
working and the "CD-Writing-HOWTO" said that I needed to download and
install "mkisofs". Well I downloaded it but I can't seem to find a way
to install it. I ran the commands: "gunzip filename.gz" and "tar -xvf
filename.tar" and extracted the files. Now what? Can anyone help?
Thanks,
Lamar
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From: "Claus Zimmermann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Thai fonts and Thai keyboard layout under linux/kde2
Date: 19 May 2001 09:26:18 +0200
I'm just a W98 user but maybe this link is serving your questions:
http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/Thai-HOWTO.html
Cheers, Claus
Marco Schulze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>Hello,
>
>I'm using a SuSE 7.0 Linux-distribution (German) with KDE2 and I would like to
>have the possibility to use Thai fonts and a Thai keyboard layout. Of course,
>not permanently. Maybe you know this little switch-program which exists under
>windows and shows up in the system tray. It allows at any time to switch the
>keyboard layout between several languages - e.g. Thai and English or Russian
and
>German etc.. It switches the layout immediately and you can switch at any time.
>
>I need sth. like this with Linux, and I'm sure such a little program and the
>necessary features in the keyboard driver exist (after all, Linux is better
than
>windows, thus I think so). Of course, I don't need it under the console, but
>with X (KDE2), to write Thai eMails etc.. And of course, I need Thai fonts, too.
>Especially under Netscape.
>
>Could someone please help me?!
>
>Thousand thanks in advance.
>
>Best regards, Marco ;-)
>
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: problem with upgrading rpm
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:35:13 +0200
Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "steve"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Glitch):
>>>| This is the typical story of Linux. I downloaded the new version of
>>>| Opera. I tried to run it but i'm told i need libjpeg.so.62....not |
He would have had it. No distro comes without libjpeg.
>>>surprising this requirement isn't mentioend on the website. |
It's impossible that you don't already have it, unless you went out of
your way to avoid it.
>>>| Anyway, I download an rpm of libjpeg from rpmfind.net. What happens
>>>| then? I'm told
>>>|
>>>| only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version
>>>of RPM | error: libjpeg62-6b-19mdk.i586.rpm cannot be installed
At least you interpret the (very clear) message correctly!
>> Actually I think you only needed to upgrade rpm to v 3.5,which probably
> I had 3.0.3 before. Now I got 3.0.3 and 4.0.2 as well, neither will let
> me install the libjpeg RPM.
It's 3.05 that's needed, as far as I recall from the perennial torrent
of messages to that effect here and elsewhere, and their exhortations
to "read the notice on the redhat and rpm sites".
> You don't have a very good reading ability. I'm installing libjpeg
> using RPM. I installed RPM by using a tarball ( so i wouldn't run into
> the stupid catch22 with upgrading RPM and receiving the error above).
But you'd have had to configure your rpm install to use exactly the
same databse and config file sites as your old rpm. Did you? I doubt
it. And then you'd have had to rebuild the rpm database. Did you?
> version of RPM i'm using compared to the version that was used to make
> the libjpg RPM.....even though after moving to RPM 4.0.2 that problem
> should have gone away. So why didn't it? what am i misssing?
Thinking. You did some, now do some more .. !
Peter
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From: Chris Majewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: create your own GNU/Linux distro on 3 floppies
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 07:52:30 +0000 (UTC)
Uses syslinux, busybox, and make.
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/~majewski/giab/
-chris
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mandrake 7, I gave up trying - Windows actually WORKS
Date: 19 May 2001 02:18:00 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Joe Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Maybe the guy isn't a 1337 H@X0R like you guys and maybe he is just a
>average Joe. Am about ready to give up playing around with Mandrake 8.0 and
>go back to Windows myself. Hell I'll be the first to admit am a newbie to
>Linux and all ( 3 months of messing with Linux ) but it seems to me from
>right off the bat that Linux distro's that claim to be working towards ease
>of use have a longs way to go. You know not everything worth using has to be
>mind numbly difficult or overly complex. There's a lot of things I like
>about Linux like the freedom of development it allows programmers to access
>the OS so they can build apps that work without the added layer of junk
>coding that MS has and the it's reliable networking and fast TCP/IP stacks.
>Despite those pros I think for average people like me who do not have the
>time and patience to wade through vast amount of reading material just to
>get a video card or network card to work. MS Windows allows us to get a lot
>done without having to get or hands dirty. To me this is kind of like the
>difference between people who like fixing and customizing there own car and
>the people who like taking there cars to their local mechanic to fix it. For
>some it maybe fun or just a hobby and even a way to make money but for
>others who do not have the know how, knowledge or time to learn how to do
>such things. Having someone else do the hard work for us is whole lot easier
>and covenant.
>
>
>P.S. You ELITIST LINUX ( not everyone here. ) USERS can me flame all you
>want for my opinion but I don't care.
Sounds like a pretty reasonable opinion to me.
I think most current Linux distributions have a GUI-based video setup
program that makes it pretty easy to get X working with many (perpaps most)
video cards and monitors, but I'm sure there are some configurations that
need hand setup or tuning. This is one of MS's advantages - that they have
so much market share any video card manufacturer that wants to do well must
provide a good driver that works under Windows.
In some cases, if you know a good Linux expert and are willing to pay for
it, you can hire him or her to deal with the hard issues and get Linux working
for you. It all depends on your priorities. I'm sure for some it turns
out that the best solution is to stay with Windows. Hopefully, as Linux
becomes easier to use as time passes, this will be the case for less and
less people - that is, people only stay with Windows because they prefer it
rather than that they find Linux too daunting.
>
>"Don Hinds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:3VeN6.1045$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> I basically quit even trying to get Mandrake 7 to work properly.
>>
>> 1) I can boot GUI, but in non-gui, even in FAILSAFE it locks up with a
>Kernel
>> Panic.
>>
>> 2) There is no option to use a modem (Linux USB supported modem) on USB
>> port, or perhaps I should say there is no option to use USB for the modem.
>> There are 4 (as I recall) port options for modem including serial, but USB
>is
>> not on the list.
>>
>> 3) Corel WP will not install. Not the one on the Mandrake 6.5 CD, nor the
>one
>> on Corel website. I get a load of directories or path not found errors.
>>
>> 4) Corel PhotoPaint installs but gives a FontTastic (missing) error when I
>try
>> to run it. I tried the Corel website and UK Linux User CD versions.
>>
>> I've posted all these problems in more detail in the past, but no one has
>any
>> workable answers. ;-(
>>
>> If I can't acutally USE Linux, it doesn't matter a whole lot if it doesn't
>> crash. Windows 95/98/ME may crash a lot, but between times IT WORKS!
>>
>> Don
>>
>
>
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Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jim Cochrane)
Subject: Re: Who to install a .gz.tar file?
Date: 19 May 2001 02:27:19 -0600
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Lamar Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am running RH 7.1 on an Intel system. I am trying to get me CDRW
>working and the "CD-Writing-HOWTO" said that I needed to download and
>install "mkisofs". Well I downloaded it but I can't seem to find a way
>to install it. I ran the commands: "gunzip filename.gz" and "tar -xvf
>filename.tar" and extracted the files. Now what? Can anyone help?
>Thanks,
>
>Lamar
>
Isn't there a README and/or INSTALL file in the package that explains how
to install it? Most packages have this or some other file that tells you
how to procede. If there is no such file and if there are no instructions
on the site you downloaded it from, you should mention that (here) and
hopefully someone familiar with the package can help you.
--
Jim Cochrane
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.programmer,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: HELP with makefile
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 04:23:24 -0400
Hi,
I need a makefile with the following rules:
For *ANY* "file" or "header":
1) create file.o from file.cpp with g++ -c file.cpp (and file.o depends on
file.cpp)
2) whenever file.cpp #include's header.h, file.o depends on header.h
(recursively)
3) file always depends on file.o, which should be used by the linker
4) whenever file.cpp #include's header.h and header.cpp exists and file.o
is used by the linker, header.o should also be used (with the appropriate
dependency: linker target depends on header.o)
5) I would also like to specify linking to libraries on a per-source-file
basis (as opposed to the usual per-target-file basis), e.g.
"eigenvalues.cpp -> lapack, blas, g2c", so that whenever the linker uses
eigenvalues.o (in any context), it would also link with "-llapack -lblas
-lg2c"
If I could somehow put these rules into a makefile, it would probably be
the last makefile I will ever have to edit! (except for the per-source-file
libraries dependency specification mentioned in rule #1)
I'm terrible at make-syntax though, so for me, even rule #1 is a challenge,
let alone the rest of them. However, it seems to me that these rules must
be requested quite frequently, so I'm hoping someone already wrote a
makefile implementing these rules that he or she can post.
Thanks in advance!
Wroot
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From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: should i use use Framebuffer?
Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 09:55:10 +0000
hi folks
just wanted to know if there would be any problems with compiling in FB
support into my kernel even though i have a graphics card (s3 savage)
taht is supported under XFree84 4.x, or are the 2 things completely
seperate?
i have had a look at the kernel docs and read about vgacon FB and vesa
FB - can i just have the vgacon fb device?
cheers
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Esa Tikka)
Subject: Re: A CPU cooler for Linux?
Date: 19 May 2001 08:12:15 GMT
On Fri, 18 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>SammyTheSnake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <MABM6.9603$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
>>>Is there a way to check this in a config file?
>
>> grep -i idle/usr/src/linux/.config
>
>Running this doesn't seem to do anything?
There seems to be be a typo, try 'grep -i idle /usr/src/linux/.config'
(without the quotes, of course:)
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