Linux-Misc Digest #944, Volume #25 Wed, 4 Oct 00 17:13:04 EDT
Contents:
loading graphical interface, linux 6.2 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Installed Helix-Code, and now no xdmcp from Windows x-server (Michael Segulja)
Re: Rescue -- Need GURU (paul simdars)
Re: loading graphical interface, linux 6.2 (Lew Pitcher)
Re: PPP and routing. (Tim Haynes)
Re: Where is libreadcore.so on Linux? (needed for acroread) (Ed L Cashin)
Re: gnapster 1.3.5 (Matt Garman)
Re: Recording audio output to disk? (William McBrine)
Re: Installing Redhat 7.0 on a Dell Inspiron 3200 Notebook (Dave Brown)
Re: so what do I do with my spare modem bandwidth? (Eric Lindsay)
libMesaGL(U).so.3 ("John Cage")
can't log in as root (Steve Gage)
Re: NT + Linux dual boot, can I repair damaged NT loader? (Robert Wiegand)
wget and scripts ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
RedHat 7 install failed, need rescue help (Charlie Zender)
Re: Implications (nathan wagner)
Re: Strange printing problem (Anthony Aicardi)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: loading graphical interface, linux 6.2
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:26:07 GMT
I have loaded Linux 6 I am going to be useing as
a test server and have installed the OS as a
server install. I would like to add that I put
this test server machine together from scratch.
When I loaded the OS the login in and password
prompts came up in a console mode. I would like
to load the graphical interface instead. How can
I do this while I am at my login prompt, is it to
late or do I have to reinstall? While I'm at it,
what are the differences between X Window, GNOME,
and KDE, aren't they all inter related? Sorry,
I'm a brand new user.
Thanks
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From: Michael Segulja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installed Helix-Code, and now no xdmcp from Windows x-server
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:35:02 GMT
I use X-Win32 to access my Linux server's graphical desktop, but after
installing the Helix-Gnome code, it does not show up anymore. Anybody
ran into this before? Usually I find it by doing an XDMCP broadcast,
but neither that not telling it what IP address to use will work
anymore.
Thanks for any help.
Michael
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Before you buy.
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Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 14:52:41 -0500
From: paul simdars <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Rescue -- Need GURU
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:00:39 -0500, paul simdars wrote:
> >I have RH6.2 and win98 on same machine. Win98 decided to puke and had
> >to be reinstalled. It also destroyed the boot sector. I have Partition
> >Magic and it shows all my linux partitions but I can't access them.
> >I had a boot disk but it got lost somewhere (because you never use them
> >with good old stable linux). So, here I am with all my partitions there
> >and no way to get to all my wonderful data. HELP!
> >I figure there must be some way to get the data. There are lots of
> >creative ideas that have come to mind but I need to find someone who
> >knows about this.
>
> http://www.toms.net/rb/ has a very nice bootable rescue system
> available. You can build it under DOS or Linux, and you really should
> keep one of them around. Or, every distro CD should be able to boot an
> installed system--if your BIOS can boot from a CD-ROM, try that, and
> instead of "Start Installation" in the menu you get after the CD boots,
> select "Boot Installed System". You may have to tell the thing which
> partition your root filesystem is on, but after that, you can rerun LILO
> and be able to boot Linux from the hard drive. HTH,
>
> --
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
> http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
> -----------------------------/ I hit a seg fault....
I guess I never understood the whole process and thought it was more
complicated than I thought but by your answer, you mentioned the rescue from
the CDrom. I did that.
Here's the procedure:
get to the boot prompt (where you'd normally hit enter to begin installation)
and type:
linux single root=/dev/hdXX initrd=
where XX is the boot sector and leave the initrd= blank.
That gets you to a shell prompt.
Look at your /etc/lilo.conf file to make sure it looks OK.
Then type /sbibn/lilo
and it should install the lilo.
And, off you go.
Hurray! I can now boot both OSs again.
Thanks
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lew Pitcher)
Subject: Re: loading graphical interface, linux 6.2
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:57:02 GMT
On Wed, 04 Oct 2000 19:26:07 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I have loaded Linux 6 I am going to be useing as
There is no such thing as Linux 6. The Linux kernel is still at 2
(2.2.17/2.3/2.4.0-pre??). You have version 6 of someone's
_distribution_ of an operating system based on Linux. It will be
important to know which _distribution_ you have.
>a test server and have installed the OS as a
>server install. I would like to add that I put
>this test server machine together from scratch.
>When I loaded the OS the login in and password
>prompts came up in a console mode. I would like
>to load the graphical interface instead. How can
>I do this while I am at my login prompt, is it to
>late or do I have to reinstall? While I'm at it,
You won't have to reinstall to get a graphical interface. You _might_
not even have to do any configuration (but I doubt it). Here's where
knowledge of the _distribution_ will help, because each distribution
has it's own way to configure and activate the gui.
In general, the gui is activated by either a command entered at the
command line, or automatically at boot up. The triggering of the gui
at boot is done in /etc/inittab, and the commandline command is
"startx".
You have to have configured the graphics server first, though. This is
done in /etc/XF86Config, using one of a variety of tools. A preferred
tool will have been supplied with your distribution.
Once the graphics system starts, there are other configuration files
to select which desktop and/or window manager you want. This is the
look-and-feel of the graphical environment. Again, it depends on what
your distribution has given you, and (in this case) what your personal
preferences are.
>what are the differences between X Window, GNOME,
>and KDE, aren't they all inter related? Sorry,
X is a protocol that permits (potentially networked) programs to draw
on the screen, read the mouse and read the keyboard. It provides
graphic primatives and network interfaces to other programs.
GNOME and KDE are two different 'desktop managers'. These are programs
that provide some common interaction between applications using your X
display; things like drag-and-drop and object linking are implemented
here. 'Desktop managers' are not necessary for the healthy running of
your GUI environment, but do add value to the base system. 'Desktop
Managers' run in an X environment.
There are also 'window managers' which provide the window decoration,
placement, and general management facilities. These work hand-in-hand
with 'desktop managers' to provide a look and feel. They run in an X
environment, but again are not strictly necessary to the healthy
running of the system.
The heirarchy then looks like...
Application uses X to talk to an X server
X Server uses an optional desktop manager to provide inter-application
facilities
X Server and desktop manager use an optional window manager to provide
window management facilities
Windows show up on your screen, and you interact with them.
>I'm a brand new user.
We all gotta start somewhere; we're all brand new users at one time or
another <g>.
>Thanks
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.
Lew Pitcher
Information Technology Consultant
Toronto Dominion Bank Financial Group
([EMAIL PROTECTED])
(Opinions expressed are my own, not my employer's.)
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From: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: PPP and routing.
Date: 04 Oct 2000 20:56:23 +0100
Reply-To: Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh) writes:
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> >While Debian allows you to edit config files by hand, it does not force
> >you to do so.
>
> So, perhaps you will be good enough to tell him how to get rid of that
> default route to lo on debian!
Edit /etc/network/interfaces and double-check / remove the `gateway' line.
~Tim
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From: Ed L Cashin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.text.pdf
Subject: Re: Where is libreadcore.so on Linux? (needed for acroread)
Date: 04 Oct 2000 16:07:19 -0400
Charlie Zender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi,
>
> I am trying to run acroread 4.0 on a Redhat 7.0 intel laptop:
>
> zender@dust:/data/zender$ acroread cv_prp.pdf
> acroread: can't load library 'libreadcore.so'
>
> The application seems to be unable to find libreadcore.so
> Where (which rpm) can I get a libreadcore.so so that acroread may work?
That library is installed by the Acrobat Reader "INSTALL" binary when
you run it.
For directoriesI have a copy in /usr/local/Acrobat3 and
/usr/local/Acrobat4, I have a copy in Reader/intellinux/lib.
--
--Ed Cashin PGP public key:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.coe.uga.edu/~ecashin/pgp/
Note: If you want me to send you email, don't munge your address.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: gnapster 1.3.5
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:06:37 GMT
On Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:47:49 GMT, A Guy Called Tyketto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Lopster is working great for me. Really good GTK-based napster
> client, with the server list from napigator.com built into the binary.
> supports everything that napster and napigator have. Tried it once,
> haven't looked back.
I got lopster, but I still can't connect to Napster, unless I *manually*
enter a server listed at napigator.com. If, when connecting, I select
"Best Server," it will always time out.
MG
--
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
-- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"
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From: William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Recording audio output to disk?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:16:00 GMT
Dave Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> William McBrine wrote:
>
>> I want to make a direct digital copy of the audio output, similar to what
>> Total Recorder does in Windows. Any pointers?
> http://www.bright.net/~dlphilp/linuxsound/players.html
> HTH...
Thanks... Although I think I'd been to that page before, I hadn't noticed
"paudio", which looks like it would've done what I wanted -- except that it
was specific to 2.0.x. After a Deja search on "paudio", I discovered that
ALSA (http://www.alsa-project.org/) would do the trick for 2.2.x. I installed
that and it worked.
--
William McBrine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave Brown)
Subject: Re: Installing Redhat 7.0 on a Dell Inspiron 3200 Notebook
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 4 Oct 2000 15:36:55 -0500
In article <8rfmi2$604$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Installing Redhat 7.0 on a Dell Inspiron 3200 Notebook
>Did anyone try it yet??
>
>I toke me over a year to get X working right and now I am thinking
>about installed Redhat 7.0?
>
>Any tips
Don't upgrade unless you have a specific reason to upgrade.
--
Dave Brown Austin, TX
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Lindsay)
Crossposted-To: alt.windows98,comp.dcom.modems,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: so what do I do with my spare modem bandwidth?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:41:04 GMT
On Tue, 3 Oct 2000 10:42:45 +0800, "Dan Jacobson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Now I would like to turn to spare modem connect time.
>Let's say I have to connect to the net on a pay per minute situation, for say
>about an hour day to browse. It sure seems a waste not to maximize the flow
>of info into my computer during this time.
My connection is a "pay by the minute", plus a fixed cost
local call charge, plus if I download more than 100 MB a
month there is a download cost for each additional MB.
You need a spreadsheet to work out your maximum data
flow vs minimum cost. I used to go online about one day
in every three, but of late I go online every day (splurge!)
To minimise my online time, I try to run as many things as I
can in background as I use the Opera browser. I like Opera
because it will print a site without reloading it the way
Netscape seems to. It also has an easy "Save page and
images" option for things you want to read more carefully
while offline. Finally, it lets me turn off Scripting, and
animation, and even all graphics, and many sites come in
a lot quicker if you have all that turned off (the dark side
of that is some sites won't load at all then).
Mailer is Eudora Lite 3, which will collect and send all your
pending mail in a single command (lots of mailers do that).
News reader is Free Agent, which can also be set up with
a two click option to download all your groups and send your
replies. I suspect other News clients will do that, but I
haven't encountered them. Mail and News clients that did
this entirely from the command line in batch mode would be
most welcome, as I probably haven't searched hard enough
for other options.
For updating my web sites, I use the command line FTP that
comes with Windows 9x. Using its ftp -s:filename option,
I batch process my site updates entirely. Real Soon Now
I'll write a 4Dos routine to generate the script automatically,
instead of only semi-automatically.
Can't think of much else that I could do in batch mode, to
be honest.
--
Eric Lindsay http://members.xoom.com/eric_lindsay/airlie
Airlie Beach Qld Australia - Great Barrier Reef entry
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Network/6778
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From: "John Cage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,de.comp.os.unix.linux.newusers
Subject: libMesaGL(U).so.3
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:52:10 GMT
Hi, I'm a linux newby.
I tryed to install fsv (file system visualisation) but I need files
libMesaGL.so.3 & libMesaGLU.so.3
I installed Mesa 3.2.2 (or at least I tryed), but the files are still
missing.
Is there someone who can give me a hint?
Tnx.
(I'm using linux RedHat 6.2)
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From: Steve Gage <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: can't log in as root
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:53:25 GMT
Hey group,
In 3 years of using linux, here's something I've never encountered:
I can't log in at the console as root! I can login as any user and su to
root, but can't log in as root. If I type "root" at the login prompt, it
doesn't even get around to asking for a password - after a few seconds
it just says "Login incorrect".
This seems to have come out of a blue sky following a reboot today.
System is Debian 2.2. Anyone have any clue what could be going
on here?
TIA,
Steve
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From: Robert Wiegand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: NT + Linux dual boot, can I repair damaged NT loader?
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 15:39:22 -0500
"Jonathan G. Campbell" wrote:
> Is there anything wrong with booting Linux from a diskette? -- if not,
> I'd stick with that. In spite of the fact that I've been using Linux
> since 1993, you will note from my approach that I'm relatively lazy and
> unadventurous towards it!
Nothing wrong with it exccept that floppies are easy to damage.
You might want to make a 2nd copy.
It really isn't that difficult to get dual booting to work however.
Check the HOWTO - it's easier than using a floppy.
--
Regards,
Bob Wiegand [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: wget and scripts
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 20:51:10 GMT
I have a shell script that I run with cron once a week. Here is the
shell script:
cd /home/ramsey/dats
wget --mirror -nd -nH -l1 -A.tar ftp://ftp.nai.com/pub/datfiles/english/
tar -xvf *.tar
rm *.tar
mv *.* /usr/local/bin/virusscan
uvscan --version
When it runs in cron, I get the following message:
--15:00:00-- ftp://ftp.nai.com:21/pub/datfiles/english/
=> `.listing'
Connecting to ftp.nai.com:21... connected!
Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in!
==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD pub/datfiles/english ... done.
==> PORT ... done. ==> LIST ... done.
0K ->
15:00:06 (67.67 B/s) - `.listing' saved [203]
--15:00:06-- ftp://ftp.nai.com:21/pub/datfiles/english/
=> `index.html'
==> CWD not required.
==> PORT ... done. ==> RETR ...
No such file `'.
FINISHED --15:00:07--
Downloaded: 0 bytes in 0 files
and my virus protection is not updated.
If I cd into ~/dats and do this:
../vupdate.sh
It correctly downloads the new file, untars it and updates the virus
program.
If I do this:
cd ~/
vupdate.sh
It works.
If I copy vupdate.sh into ~/dats and run:
./vupdate.sh
It does *not* work.
So I am royally puzzled. I get the same results if I change everything
over and do this as root, with the paths set to /root and /root/dats.
I would really appreciate it if someone could give me some pointers.
Or pointers to pointers.
Sure, I can run it by hand once a week, but then I would be the living
embodiment of cron. And I'm already the living embodiment of sloth, so
there'd be a conflict. ;)
Thanks,
Bob
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Before you buy.
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From: Charlie Zender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RedHat 7 install failed, need rescue help
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 13:59:02 -0700
Hi,
I tried installing Redhat 7 on my Dell Inspiron 7500 intel laptop,
previously running Redhat 6.1.
The install failed just after disk druid partitioning and just before
copying the packages.
I tried to reuse the /home and /usr/local partitions.
The anaconda script died, and now the system will not boot to linux
since there is no system on the disk (it does still boot to windows).
Now I would like to copy a file (my mail) from my /home partition before
I reformat the disk completely and try to install Debian.
I can use a rescue disk to boot linux and then mount the /home =/dev/hda7 partition.
However the file is ~50 MB and will not fit on a single floppy.
Fortunately I have a superdisk drive (LS120 = 120 MB) which used
to be /dev/hdc = /mnt/ls120. I could copy the file onto the LS120
if I could mount the drive. Unfortunately
mount /dev/hdc /mnt/ls120
fails with a "not enough space" error.
Any ideas on how I mount the LS120 drive?
Is there a way to copy stuff on /hda7 directly to the windows partition?
I am unable to mount the windows partition from linux, same "not enough
space" error. Any7 help/ideas appreciated.
Thanks,
Charlie
--
Charlie Zender [EMAIL PROTECTED] (949) 824-2987/FAX-3256, Department of
Earth System Science, University of California, Irvine CA 92697-3100
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (nathan wagner)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.software.config-mgmt,comp.ai.gentic
Subject: Re: Implications
Date: 4 Oct 2000 20:43:45 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 03 Oct 2000 10:15:45 GMT,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> DNA --> RNA --> Proteins (function)
And
Grass --> Bull --> Manure
Another similarity for your "equation".
--
I am rarely disappointed by scoring my-deja.com from lines to -100.
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From: Anthony Aicardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Strange printing problem
Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2000 23:14:15 GMT
Try cat samplefile.txt | lpr
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
On 10/4/00, 12:23:19 PM, Kristian Lampen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote =
regarding Strange printing problem:
> I have changed from Suse 6.3 to Debian a few weeks ago, but I was not
> able to get my printer to work.
> I have a Canon BJC-2000 (on LPT1) . Under Suse (Kernel 2.2.13,=20
printing
> and parport support compiled as modules) the printer works fine.
> Now I can't even do a
> cat samplefile.txt > /dev/lp0
> nothing happens
> I get NO errormessage like "device not configured". I get this
> errormessage when I want to access lp1,lp2, but this is clear because =
I
> have only one printer port.
> The device file exist:
> crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 0 Jul 5 19:44 /dev/lp0
> crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 1 Jul 5 19:44 /dev/lp1
> crw-rw---- 1 root lp 6, 2 Jul 5 19:44 /dev/lp2
> When I send strings to lp0 the printer does nothing (this worked under=
> Suse).
> I have loaded the modules correctly:
> parport_pc 7560 1 (autoclean)
> lp 5476 0 (autoclean)
> parport 7456 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp]
> /var/log/messages tell me that they are loaded correctly to, too:
> Oct 4 18:25:10 Meditation kernel: parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7
> [SPP,PS2]
> Oct 4 18:25:10 Meditation kernel: lp0: using parport0
> (interrupt-driven).
> What does PS2 at the end of the log mean, is there a conflict with my
> PS2 mouse?
> But my PS2 port is on IRQ 12.
> I have tried with interupts and without ,and with SPP or EPP enabled=20
in
> the BIOS.
> I although tried different IO-Ports in the Bios: 0x378, 0x3bc.
> But nothing happens.
> This is really strange.
> Hope someone con help me
> ciao
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