Linux-Misc Digest #56, Volume #26                Mon, 16 Oct 00 23:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Matt Garman)
  Re: Downloading tools from redhat.com (Jem Berkes)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Tim Smith)
  Re: printer setup problem (bullwinkle)
  Re: what is the most convenient and effective way to backup? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Les Mikesell")
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Network problems! (Henning Pedersen)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Unable to install new kernel (David)
  Re: Downloading tools from redhat.com (David)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? (Jerry L Kreps)
  Re: about sendmail (The Ghost In The Machine)
  RE: HP35480A scsi tape drive config ("Guy Smith")
  Re: file management questions (The Proximate Cluebat)
  Re: 2 X-CD-Roast Problems (Michel Catudal)
  Re: ?KDE login/RH 7.0 problem (Fester)
  Re: I/O in application programs. (The Proximate Cluebat)
  Re: max crontab entries? (The Proximate Cluebat)
  Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux? ("Jan Schaumann")

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Matt Garman)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:03:45 GMT

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:35:57 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <8seufm$c7d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
> >Latex is fine. But try to give this to an experienced user of Word and it's
> >not going to happen in this life time.
> Learning to use LaTeX is certainly no more difficult than learning to use
> Word.  Provided with a set of LaTeX templates, I've seen people with no
> typesetting or programming experience whatsoever producing within a day
> ...

I agree with you completely.

But why is it that the majority of the corporate world uses Word?  Is that
all marketing in action?

I just find it so frustrating as an individual who is strictly a Linux
user when someone sends me a Word document or puts up some useful
information in Powerpoint or Excel form.  It's honestly one of my biggest
fears when I graduate from college and join the "real world" that I'll
have to interface with MS products just to keep up with the operations of
my organization.

MG

-- 
Matt Garman, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"I may make you feel, but I can't make you think."
        -- Jethro Tull, "Thick as a Brick"

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From: Jem Berkes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading tools from redhat.com
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:07:44 -0500

Redhat FTP servers are very busy. Try using a mirror ftp site.

* Tong * wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I found that many search engines or review sites refer tools to
> redhat.com ftp site. but when I tried to download them, I always get
> the "Login incorrect" error:
> 
> The requested URL could not be retrieved
>      _________________________________________________________________
> 
>    An FTP authentication failure occurred while trying to retrieve the
>    URL: ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/sourcenav/releases/
> 
>    Squid sent the following FTP command:
> 
> PASS
> 
>    and then received this reply
> 
> Login incorrect.
>      _________________________________________________________________
> 
>    Generated Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:49:08 GMT by ...
> 
>  Is the redhat.com ftp site available to the public? How can I
> download? Thanks.
> 
> FYI, here is the two of many urls recent I tried:
> 
> ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/sourcenav/releases/
> ftp://ftp.redhat.com/pub/redhat/powertools/6.1/SRPMS/tkgoodstuff-8.0-8.src.rpm
> 
> --
> Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply)
>   http://members.xoom.com/suntong001/
>   - All free contribution & collection & music from the heavens

-- 

==========
http://www.pc-tools.net/
DOS, Win32, Linux software

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Smith)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: 16 Oct 2000 19:03:28 -0700
Reply-To: Tim Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

[EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Tell that to your boss when you hand in your report and it looks like
>crap, all because you used Linux and he, along with the rest of the
>world, is using Word.

Uhm...ever heard of TeX?  You can argue successfully that Word is easier
to use, but if you try to argue that it produces better looking
documents, you will reveal yourself to be a fool.

--Tim Smith

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From: bullwinkle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printer setup problem
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:10:06 -0000


ryan vaughan wrote:
> 
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Matthew Haley"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 15 Oct 2000 16:41:49 +0700,
> >  ryan vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>Hello, I have an athlon 600 running RH 6.1, with a Canon BJC-240L
> >>printer and I'm having trouble setting up the printer.  when i use
> >>printtool i set up the printer fine, detected on /dev/lp0, and when
> >> i try to print a test page it says it was successfully sent but
nothing
> >> 
> >>comes out of the printer.  I am at a loss as to what to do.  Any help 
> >>would be greatly appreciated.  
> > 
> > It's a know problem with RedHat 6.1. Go to:
> > 
> >
http://www.redhat.com/support/docs/gotchas/6.1/gotchas-6.1-6.html#ss6.19
> > 
> > 
> 
> I tried doing what that page said but it still doesnt print.  It still
> says it spools correctly, but my printer just stares back at me blank as
> ever.  Even if i print the test page directly to the port it still doesnt
> do anything.  When i did /sbin/rmmod lp, it said that the lp module was
> not loaded...could this be part of the problem?  Thanks for trying to
> help.
> 
> Ryan Vaughan
  
  Now that you have the alias added, try removing the printtool entry and 
  the file /var/spool/lpd/lp.  Then re-run printool, starting lpd before
  you test.  If this works, give a "thank you" to Dave Cook, who originally
  posted this tip Jan 5, 2000.

--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: what is the most convenient and effective way to backup?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:14:25 -0400

Martha H Adams wrote:

> My work tree is mostly ascii text files.  Over some 15 years it's grown up
> to a little over 100 MB.  My practice is to save it zipped onto an LS120
> disk -- actually, 2 or 3 of these, duplicates; and I carry one around with
> me.
>
> I like the LS120 disks because they are same size as 3.5 in floppies and I
> can carry one or two of them in the same small carrier with floppies.  My
> idea is I don't need the system because I can make a new one if the worst
> happens; and then set in my LS120 and in a few minutes I have my whole
> original tree back.  I do incremental backups between large ones.

The main problem I have with this is that, while I have the original CD-ROM
with my original distribution on it, as time goes by, I have a tremendous
number of rpm files that are needed to upgrade as time goes on. Furthermore,
the order of installation of these rpms is not always clear a year later, and
the order of installation is critical. Furthermore, there are other files I
have downloaded as well. Add to that the tons of configuration information
that must be integrated somehow. If I lost my entire system, I estimate it
would take me a week or more if I had to restore it all from the original
disks and floppy copies of everything. In fact, where is everything? There is
a lot of configuration in /etc, but my name-server stuff is all in
/var/named, so that must be backed up as well, my ssh, ssl, etc., are in
/usr/src, ... .
So I do not find disks to be the answer and use 8Gigabyte DDS-2 tapes to back
up almost everything every night.

> All this has paid off once in a big way.  A hardware problem crashed my
> Linux as it was booting, and I found my whole tree badly munged.

What whole tree? Surely not the one starting at /. That would never fit on a
few LS120 disks.

> Page
> after page on the screen of warnings about cross-linked files.  I just
> killed the whole mess and replaced it from my LS120 backup.
>
> Remember: saved from *15 years* and no way could I do that again.  So I
> was serious about backups before this happened, but now I'm *really
> serious* about backups.
>
> Cheers -- Martha Adams

--
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  10:05pm up 7 days, 3:43, 2 users, load average: 2.61, 2.51, 2.35




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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:14:53 GMT


"Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Garry Knight wrote:
> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Dustin
> >Puryear" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Another possibility is to use HTML for true portability, but most
> >> publishing houses will not support that.
> >
> >Most of the word processors I've come across can import and export RTF
> >pretty well. It just depends on how tricky you want to get with using
> >text frames and so on. And, of course, the WP needs to have a good font
> >substitution algorithm. But I believe RTF to be the most portable text
> >format (apart from plain text, that is...).
>
> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
D'uh). RTF
> is not half as portable.

Isn't that a one-way trip?  The idea of being portable is supposed to be
that
everything else can edit it.

  Les Mikesell
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:18:56 +0400

"Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

<snip>

>>
>> The most portable document format is PDF (Portable Document FOrmat -
> D'uh). RTF
>> is not half as portable.
> 
> Isn't that a one-way trip?  The idea of being portable is supposed to be
> that everything else can edit it.

No, not really. The idea of being portable is that it will look the same
no matter what platform/machine.

I admit, it's not the ideal solution to the given problem. That'd be
LaTeX with CVS (and make), as pointed out by others.


Cheers,
-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

Please add smileys where appropriate.

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:20:21 -0400

Jean-David Beyer wrote:

> John Hasler wrote:
>
> > Jean-David Beyer writes:
> > > It had the required space the instant before I sent it, but I see someone
> > > has deleted it. It is there now, and I will now press "Send".
> >
> > It isn't there.
>
> I can see that. In my e-mails that I send (in the "sent" folder), the needed
> spaces are missing, too, and have been since at least last May (as far back as
> I have retained anything), except once.
>
> I examined some of the stuff in my inbox. They have all kinds of signature
> separators:
>
> "-- ", "--", "---", "=====", "" (i.e., nothing). They also have some with
> "business cards". Let me try an experiment: Netscape formats the separator and
> everything after it as "Formatted" (which gets me a different type style and
> constand-width format type face. I manually changed it to "Normal" for the
> separator. I checked and the space is still there.
>
> --
>  .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
>  /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
> /( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
> ^^-^^  3:35pm up 6 days, 21:13, 4 users, load average: 3.64, 3.74, 3.69

Is this a permanent bug in Netscape? Or could I have configured something
incorrectly? I do not see that this is a configurable item.

-- <---<<<points at the space that is there. Of course, this is not an invalid 
separator.
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  10:15pm up 7 days, 3:53, 2 users, load average: 3.38, 3.02, 2.65




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From: Henning Pedersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Network problems!
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:20:13 -0400

I have been trying several NICs but and finally I got a D-Link DFE530TX+
which acording to RedHat is 100% compatible by the rt18139.o driver.
After I installed the NIC it did try to start up the card but I got the
message "insmod: /lib/modules/2.2.16-22/net/rt18139  :insmod eth0 failed"
with all the other cards I didnt even get a failed message so I think there
must be a way to make this work. I have an HP Pavilion 6730 with dualboot
win98/RH7.0 and funny enough everything else works perfectly well.
I realise that it might be an IRQ conflict but if so how do I solve it? I
tried /proc/interrupts and this is what I got:

0       11331     XTPIC   Timer
1          89      XTPIC   keyboard
2           0     XTPIC   cascade
8           1     XTPIC   rtc
9           0     XTPIC   intel ICH 82801AA
11          0     XTPIC   usb-uchi
12          0     XTPIC   ps/2 mouse
13          1     XTPIC   fpu
14      54484     XTPIC   ide0
15          2     XTPIC   ide1
NMI         0  

Please can someone help me solve this problem, I have been wrecking my brain
for weeks now.
Thanks.
Henning Pedersen.


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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 22:25:26 +0400

[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

> On Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:35:57 GMT, Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In article <8seufm$c7d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MH wrote:
>> >Latex is fine. But try to give this to an experienced user of Word and
>> >it's not going to happen in this life time.
>> Learning to use LaTeX is certainly no more difficult than learning to
>> use Word.  Provided with a set of LaTeX templates, I've seen people
>> with no typesetting or programming experience whatsoever producing
>> within a day
>> ...
> 
> I agree with you completely.
> 
> But why is it that the majority of the corporate world uses Word?  Is
> that all marketing in action?
> 
> I just find it so frustrating as an individual who is strictly a Linux
> user when someone sends me a Word document or puts up some useful
> information in Powerpoint or Excel form.  It's honestly one of my
> biggest fears when I graduate from college and join the "real world"
> that I'll have to interface with MS products just to keep up with the
> operations of my organization.

You don't. You can educate people. Show them that you are far more
fficient and that the result will look far more professional if you use
your preferred environemt.

I have so far convinced all of my employess not only to let me work on a
Linux-box instead of some stupid NT-machine (where everybody had to have
the same password and the sys-admin didn't know what ftp is), but also
have many people since then made an effort to learn Linux/Unix...

The act that most people use Word is b/c M$ has a Monopoly. That is a Bad
Thing (tm). It has been found that M$ did in fact stifle competition and
harmed the customer by preventing progress
(http://usvms.gpo.gov/ms-findings2.html) - here we see it in action.

A few weeks ago, I bought my dad a subscription to a magazine online. I
receved an email saying "see attached" with an MS-Word doc attached,
containing the lines 
"Dear Mr. Schaumann

we have received your order. Mr Schaumann (Sen) will receive the magazine
from the next issue onwards at address xyz. Thank you very much."

When I responded with an email saying that it's bad practice and looks
foolish to send a word-document for these purposes (I phrased it nicely),
they responded that they did no know, that they had no idea that people
might no have word and that they will, in the future, send plain text.

Voila, my good deed for the day.


Cheers,
-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

Please add smileys where appropriate.

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Unable to install new kernel
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:16:18 -0500

Mihai Cartoaje wrote:
> 
> I have RedHat with Linux kernel 2.2.12. I had installed the kernel which
> comes precompiled, but I tried to compile my own.
> 
> I have chosen E2FS, chosen APM but not at startup, made bzImage, made
> modules, made modules_install, copied bzImage over the old vmlinuz
> (after saving a copy), and reran lilo.
> 
> At startup, Linux dies with the message,
> 
> apm: BIOS not found
> request_module[block-major-3]: Root fs not mounted
> VFS: Cannot open root device 03:02
> Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 03:02
> 
> Does this error message signify anything to anyone?
> 
> Mihai

boot with a bootdisk and at the lilo prompt enter:

 linux root=/dev/hdaX

Where hdaX would be the correct root partition.
It sounds like you forgot to edit & update lilo with the new kernel
version and "/sbin/lilo -v"

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: David <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Downloading tools from redhat.com
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:22:13 -0500

* Tong * wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I found that many search engines or review sites refer tools to
> redhat.com ftp site. but when I tried to download them, I always get
> the "Login incorrect" error:
> 
> The requested URL could not be retrieved
>      _________________________________________________________________
> 
>    An FTP authentication failure occurred while trying to retrieve the
>    URL: ftp://sources.redhat.com/pub/sourcenav/releases/
> 
>    Squid sent the following FTP command:
> 
> PASS
> 
>    and then received this reply
> 
> Login incorrect.
>      _________________________________________________________________
> 
>    Generated Tue, 17 Oct 2000 01:49:08 GMT by ...
> 
>  Is the redhat.com ftp site available to the public? How can I
> download? Thanks.

RedHat servers are loaded heavy due to the new 7.0 version. You might
try some of the sites below.

  ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/linux/distributions/redhat/
  ftp://bigfoot.eecs.umich.edu/pub/linux/redhat/
  ftp://cc.gatech.edu/linux/distributions/redhat

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538

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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 21:38:45 -0500

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Matthias Warkus wrote:
<snip>

>In the de.* hierarchy, we tell everyone who doesn't post under their
>realname to fuck off, which is a useful policy IMO.
>
>mawa

I wish this real name policy was universal!
JLK

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (The Ghost In The Machine)
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: about sendmail
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:42:05 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc, Andrew Serukov
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on Fri, 13 Oct 2000 15:51:49 GMT
<pcGF5.6338$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>The ways of doing that are in RFC2557 "MIME Encapsulation of Aggregate
>Documents, such as HTML (MHTML)" :-
>
>    http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2557.txt
>
>Again, I dont know of any MUAs / filters that could do that either.

Netscape seemed to like it fine, the one time I tried it.  It's a
bit tricky because the image has to be encoded in base64, or
maybe quoted-printable (base64 would be more efficient), since
it's not text.

I think Outlook liked it, too.

I'll have to see if I can recreate it.  It's not that difficult,
but one has to know the right "magic words", which are probably
described somewhere in the document above.

(No, I didn't use PERL; I coded this "by hand".  Not that doing
the same in PERL would be difficult; others have suggested that
this problem has already been solved in MIME::Lite, as well.
I know nothing about this module, though.)

>
>--Andrew
>
>"Grant Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>news:frFF5.694$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>> In article <8s61gv$747$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Logan Shaw wrote:
>>
>> >Furthermore, as far as I know, there is no URL type that refers
>> >to othre attachments within a MIME message.  If there were, one
>> >could send an e-mail with images attached that were referred to
>> >by an HTML file that was also attached, which would be very
>> >close to sending a web page by e-mail.
>>
>> I've seen exactly that done.  I don't believe it's a standard
>> URL format, and I don't know how many MUAs impliment such a
>> scheme, but some do.
>>
>> --
>> Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  Why is everything
>>                                   at               made of Lycra Spandex?
>>                                visi.com
>>
>
>


-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- insert random misquote here

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From: "Guy Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: RE: HP35480A scsi tape drive config
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:49:45 GMT

Well, the symptoms changed a bit after I selected a resonable varitation of
a scinit.def file.  Now the tape drive will not hold onto a tape.  Insert
the tape, it loads, spins for a few seconds, then ejects.

"mt load"  results in an I/O error.
Attempting a tar results in " Cannot write: No medium found"

So, I'm stumped.  Anyone successfuly using a HP35480A that can give me some
pointers?

--- orig msg ---

I have loaded Red Hat 6.2 on an old PC.  Most everything is working OK,
except for an HP35480 DAT drive.  The device is seen at boot (see next -
dump from dmesg)

============================================================================
==================================
Detected scsi tape st0 at scsi0, channel 0, id 3, lun 0
st0: Error with sense data: [valid=0] Info fld=0x0, Current st09:00: sense
key Not Ready
============================================================================
==================================

1) Not sure to what to make of the message

2) Cannot find any good documentation on configuring scsi tape drives, much
less anything specific on this model

Looking for any guidance.





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From: The Proximate Cluebat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file management questions
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 02:51:09 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Leejay Wu 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 16-Oct-100 file management
> questions by andi [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 1) How do I copy the contents of a directory to another directory
> > taking any subdirectories too. I know how to copy the isolated 
> > files but any directories get left behind
> 
> 'cp -r <src> <dst>'

Or, for macho error handling, etc.:

$ tar cvf - <src> | ( cd <dst> ; tar xf - )

-- 
The Proximate Cluebat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: Michel Catudal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 X-CD-Roast Problems
Date: 16 Oct 2000 22:04:06 -0500

Metropolis a �crit :
> 
> Hey folks...
> 
> Running RedHat 7.
> 
> I'm having problems getting either the newest release version of
> X-CD-Roast (.96ex2) or the latest devel release (.98alpha6) working
> properly.
> 
> For the alpha release (which I'd prefer to use), everything works fine
> except for copying audio CDs.  The only option is for "On-the-fly"
> copying and it won't let me change to creating an image first.  I
> don't want to have to extract the tracks individually if I can help
> it.  I've got the correct versions of cdrecord, cdda2wav, etc.
> 
> I can't even get the .96ex2 release to compile.  I have newer versions
> of the dependencies (TCL, Tk, and Tix) and the ./configure script
> doesn't seem to find them.  Here's the output:
> 
> # ./configure
> Autoconfiguration of X-CD-Roast 0.96ex:
> Checking for S.u.S.E.-Distribution: no
> Looking for TCL 8.0-Library: not found
> Looking for TK 8.0-Library: not found
> Looking for Tix 4.1-Library: not found
> Looking for Tix 4.1-SAM-Library: not found
> Looking for TCL 8.0 lib-directory: not found
> Looking for TK 8.0 lib-directory: not found
> Looking for Tix 4.1 lib-directory: /usr/lib/tix4.1/
> Looking for TCL/TK/Tix include-files: /usr/include/
> No TCL 8.0 Library found. Please install TCL 8.0. (further information
> can be found in the README.Compile-file)
> 
> RPM -q reports I have the regular RH7 versions already installed:
> 
> tcl-8.3.1
> tk-8.3.1
> tix-4.1.0.6
> 
>  and I verified this.  Is there any way to reference these installed
> libraries instead of having to build new (actually, old) libraries?
> Any suggestions on either (or both) issues would be much
> appreciated... Thanks..
> 
> Adam
> alpine1 (-at-) mindspring (-dot-) com

Try gcombust for CD audio.
It doesn't install on SuSE but it should work with RedHat


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fester)
Subject: Re: ?KDE login/RH 7.0 problem
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:04:36 GMT

I saw Robert Lynch rant about the following:
>Hiya-
>
>I have a problem with logging in to the KDE desktop with a RH6.2
>-> RH7.0 upgrade.
>
>The KDE login dialog box comes up, and I can enter my username,
>but when I am in the password box, it will not accept any input.

Try hovering your mouse cursor over the input box. It's picky about that
sometimes.

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   "And Dream dreams of the future. Progress dreams of clean.
    And Stress only dreams about stress, all over everything." 
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From: The Proximate Cluebat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I/O in application programs.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:06:18 GMT

In article <8sfpio$3nd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   Fred <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In its basic schema, this program may be described in the
> > following sequence of steps.  (For simplicity, I omit error
> > handling).
> >
> > Step 1:  Open the files.
> open(), fopen(), etc.

Step 1.5:  Lock the files to prevent race conditions or file 
hosement.  Use a shared lock (flock(fd, LOCK_SH)) when reading and 
an exclusive lock (flock(fd, LOCK_EX)) when writing.  (fd here is 
your file descriptor.)

[ snip several steps -- no, Mr. Mainframe, you don't want to do I/O 
like that under Unix, but that's already been discussed elsewhere ]

Step 12.5:  Unlock the files.  (flock(fd, LOCK_UN)).

> > Step 13:  Close both files.


Because you, the programmer, do not know when another process might 
want to I/O your files, nor do you know that only one copy of your 
program could be running at once, it is your responsibility to lock 
and to check for locks.  Unix file locks are "advisory" -- meaning 
that they are not mandatory -- however if your program and another 
interfere with one another and yours is the one disregarding locks, 
yours is the one with the bug.

Note that flock(3) is the 4.4BSD file locking mechanism, supported 
by Linux and BSD-derived Unix systems; if you need to run on a 
vanilla POSIX implementation as well, use lockf(3) instead.

Note also that you *can* achieve mandatory locks under Linux, but 
you very well may not want to.  See Documentation/mandatory.txt in 
your Linux kernel source tree.

-- 
The Proximate Cluebat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: The Proximate Cluebat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: max crontab entries?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 03:07:18 GMT

In article <8sftvm$7re$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, MDM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> 
> Is it possible to have too many entries in crontab for a specific 
> time/day? For example if I have 25 entries in crontab to execute 
> a script that updates a web stats page from logfiles at 00:05 
> everyday of every month for a group of virtual domains things 
> should work ok - late at night - low machine load - etc .. but is 
> there a point at which maybe there is a better way of handling 
> things than using crontab? 

Consider using /etc/cron.daily or the equivalent.

-- 
The Proximate Cluebat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Is there a MS Word (or substitute) for Linux?
Crossposted-To: news.software.readers
Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2000 23:09:31 +0400

"Jean-David Beyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

[NS snips the trailing space after the sig-delimiter]

> 
> Is this a permanent bug in Netscape? Or could I have configured
> something incorrectly? I do not see that this is a configurable item.

Again, I xpost and fup this to news.software.readers, where
a) it belongs
b) it will most likely be answered
c) the experts sit


Cheers,
-Jan

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