Linux-Misc Digest #127, Volume #26 Tue, 24 Oct 00 05:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: install on old laptop (John Forkosh)
Need some tools.. ("Nils Olav Sel�sdal")
Linux is so #$%^&! cool! [Just blew away Windows :-] (s. keeling)
Redhat, Slackware, SUSE, FreeBSD, Help... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
PPTP/PPP (Jean-Yves Toumit)
Re: Absurd mouse behavior (fred smith)
Re: Where are the drivers to be put in a rescue diskette (Ezio PAGLIA)
Apache Recompile ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Apache on RedHat6.2 (Sanvir Singh Jham)
Re: via82cxxx ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Microsoft's Anti Linux Page (Harry Kroonen)
Re: Copying an 7GB-partition to an 8GB-partition (Eric)
Re: HELP: Boot / HD problem (Eric)
Re: Which windowing system? X-windows? (Bill Kocynjski)
Setting env vars globally ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ... ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ... (Andreas
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Re: Setting env vars globally (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Forkosh)
Subject: Re: install on old laptop
Date: 24 Oct 2000 06:24:02 GMT
If you're willing to use Slackware, your hard drive probably
has enough space to hold the A-series in a DOS partition,
and also install the A-series files in a Linux partition.
If that's so, then you don''t need the CD. First install
the A-series as discussed above, and run lilo. Then you have
a bootable Linux. Now remove the floppy, swap in the CD and
install all the other Series that you want (and have room for).
John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
curious ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
: I have an old gateway laptop. It is 100 mhz, with 16 megs of ram, and I
: want to install linux on it so that it might have some use again!!! The
: only problem is that the sucker is soooooo old that it is one with the
: swapable cdrom and floppy drive. My delima is that
: 1. If I boot with a linux floppy I cannot insert the cdrom without
: removing the floppy drive. By removing the floppy drive I force the
: computer to powerdown.
: 2. The bios has no option to boot from a cdrom.
: is there a way to make the harddrive bootable into linux(similar to the
: bootdisk before instal)? Or does anyone have a better alternative? I am
: open to anything so throw it at me
: thanks in advance to all that took the time to read this, and many more
: thanks to the ones that respond.
: john3
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From: "Nils Olav Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need some tools..
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:27:34 +0200
Now, for me to start using linux at work i need some tools.
Do they exist? where can i get them?(Should be GUI programs of course...)
1. A mailclient that kan work with Exchange Server..
2. A SourceSafe Client..
(and a videoplayer that can play asf/DevX, mpg , etc.. would be nice too..)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (s. keeling)
Subject: Linux is so #$%^&! cool! [Just blew away Windows :-]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:45:42 GMT
I've been fighting with this since I bought this machine. It was
poorly supported by its mfgr., not to mention crippled hardware-wise,
and it just can't any longer hold two OS's. And, I *really* wanted to
install Applix on it. So I finallly spent some time researching just
exactly what has to be done.
Well, there's /etc/fstab and /etc/lilo.conf
You have to time when to change these over carefully. libc got
confused at one moment when /dev/hda4 didn't seem to exist.
everything worked nicely but it was a tightrope kinda moment ... I'm
a wuss! :-)
and mount points: /mnt/...
/mnt/local
/mnt/home
/mnt/rut
and input directory's:
/mnt/rut/usr/local
/mnt/rut/home
I had windoze on /dev/hda1
Linux / on /dev/hda2
swap on /dev/hda3
I (linux) fdisked and deleted /dev/hda1 (windoze), and replaced
/dev/hda1 with a 300 Mb ptn for /usr/local (symlinked with /var/local
and /opt).
That left ca. 40 - 55Mb for /home (which ended up as /dev/hda4 ??).
That free-ed up 20 Mb in my / ptn (only had 20Mb left when /home
was part of /). Woohoo!
I run Debian. For the critical stuff, I ran from a Debian rescue
disk. I was hoping to try the magical:
(cd /indir ; tar cf .) | (cd /outdir ; tar xpf -)
Sigh. There's no tar on the rescue disk I used.
cp -r works though! :-) Took forever! Don't forget to turn
on swap first. So far, my home environment works as before. Haven't
tried anything sophisticated yet though, ...
mkdir /mnt/rut ; mkdir/mnt/home ; mkdir/mnt/local
mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/local
mount /dev/hda4 /mnt/home
After the cp -r's, do:
mv /mnt/rut/home /mnt/rut/old_home ; mv /mnt/rut/usr/local /mnt/rut/usr/old_local
mount -o ro /dev/hda2 /mnt/rut before you reboot.
You'll have to chown -R user.user /home/user afterward, and I think I
did a chown -R root.staff /usr/local
I think this would be a great candidate for a mini-howto. Reclaim
your wasted windoze space!
(0) /home/keeling/_ df
Filesystem 1024-blocks Used Available Capacity Mounted on
/dev/hda2 396197 300244 75491 80% /
/dev/hda1 297603 30 282203 0% /usr/local
/dev/hda4 49769 24491 22708 52% /home
Now I have room to install Applix! YaY!
Just imagine trying gymnastics like this in windoze!
And don't forget to rm /old_home and /usr/old_local :-)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Redhat, Slackware, SUSE, FreeBSD, Help...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 06:33:23 GMT
Some of the questions here have probably already been posted in these
newsgroups, but I was hoping that maybe I could get some advice relating
to my own situation. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
A little background- I have a working knowledge of Unix(mail, pine,
pico, vi, shell commands), and want to try out linux.
Ultimately(but not right away), I want to setup a highend webserver and
ftp server on linux with apache, perl, eperl, mysql. Any knowledge I
have of linux comes from browsing the web.
1. Which distribution would you recommend? wrt ease of upgradability,
application installation uninstallation, security and stability given my
level of knowledge and goals.
2. I was considering Redhat, but not definite. If so, would you
recommend ver7.0 or 6.2 as I hear there are some issues with 7.0. How
about 6.2 right now and upgrade to 7.1 when it comes out? or is that to
complicated.
3. Further, should I get a copy of the enterprise server version of a
distribution(they are considerably more expensive), or is it possible to
just get the standard version and then download other components to make
it equivalent to an enterprise version(or is there just too much
downloading involved this way?)
4. If you setup linux first as a workstation, would it be easy to later
on set it up as web server, or should I start it as a web server from
the beginning? I ask this because, I've read that there is a certain
sequence of steps when setting up apache, mod_perl, eperl, and mysql to
work with one another correctly.
5. How hard is it to upgrade a distribution? What's involved in it? Is
it easy enough to just download some components and upgrade it or is it
better to just buy the cd for the next version? If you upgrade for
example the kernel, would you have to upgrade all the other applications
like the c compilers, webserver, xwindow, gui's, and what about the
hardware configurations.
6. What about FreeBSD and OpenBSD? Would you recommend them? are they
easier or more difficult than linux wrt configuration, upgradability
etc. ?
7. I'm looking for a good and thorough book on linux, with basic
information such as setup and configuration to more advanced topics such
as server administration and security. If this is too much information
for one book to contain, what combination of books would you recommend?
Sorry for so many questions in one posting. Any feedback would be much
appreciated.
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From: Jean-Yves Toumit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: PPTP/PPP
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 21:09:42 +0200
Hello all!
I've just installed the new RedHat 7.0 and have problems with the
PPTP/PPP stuff.
I have an ADSL connection which worked really fine with the previous
RedHat (6.2, the connection was set up in a few minutes) but I simply
can't manage to set it up under that new RedHat 7.
So, what did I do?
- installed pptp
- edited /etc/ppp/options and added these lines :
name "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
noauth
noipdefault
defaultroute
- edited /etc/ppp/pap-secrets and added the line with the login/password
I have two ethernet cards on my linux box, eth1 is connected to the ADSL
modem.
So I have turned DHCP on and it gots the dynamic address (10.0.0.1) from
the modem pretty well.
I can access the modem with pings, and "ifconfig eth1" gives me the
right 10.0.0.1 address.
Then, I use "./pptp 10.0.0.138" and watch the logs.
There, ppp complains :
timeout sending LCP ConfigReqs
and then quits.
What did I do wrong? I have checked hundred times the login/passwd so it
mustn't be that.
I guess it's about the ppp config that something is getting wrong.
Last but not least, it's not an ISP problem because the connection under
Windows works fine.
Thanks for any tips!
JY.
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Absurd mouse behavior
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 00:51:41 GMT
Tyler Larson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Well, if it helps anybody to understand what's going on with my system,
: I think I've narrowed the mouse problem down to something in the software
: rather than a hardware problem.
: My justification is this: When i DO get my mouse to work, if I stay in
: an X session, the mouse will continue to function correctly indefinately.
: But if I switch to a 'normal' terminal session, I get the approx. 5 minute
: timeout (if you can call it that) where the mouse must be unplugged,
: unconfigured, and plugged in again (in the other serial port) and
: reconfigured to make it function.
I suppose it could be some bad interaction with 'gpm', which is the mouse
interface for text-mode consoles.
I've personally not had any such trouble with it, mouse works fine for me
in both X and on consoles, but I recall seeing occasional notes here (or
elsewhere) from people reporting they need to stop using 'gpm' to get
the X mouse to work right.
You might want to try turning off gpm (or you can kill it from a root
login with 'gpm -k', which lasts for the current boot session) and see
if it makes any difference.
Fred
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keeping watch on the wicked and the good.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ezio PAGLIA)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Where are the drivers to be put in a rescue diskette
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:30:05 GMT
>Does your version of RH have "mkbootdisk", this should do the trick.
>I am assuming you are using a SCSI tape device (/dev/st0). This
>requires support for scsi_mod, st, and your SCSI adapter; either
>built-in or as loadable modules. See "man bootdisk". After booting
>you can see if your drive is detected by using "dmesg | less".
Thank you Louis and guru's, but what happens if you use the mkbootdisk
diskette and your hd is crashed ?
Another question : following your advices we succeeded in seeing the
tape working from the rescue diskette. Nevertheless we have troubles
in seeing the disk array. Do you know an obvious way to see all the
modules related to it ? Practically, from lsmod I see :
Module Size Used by
autofs 9092 1 (autoclean)
lockd 30344 1 (autoclean)
sunrpc 52132 1 (autoclean) [lockd]
eepro100 15652 1 (autoclean)
st 24556 0 (unused)
cpqarray 15016 6
ncr53c8xx 51424 0
We realized that to see the tape it was sufficient, after the boot
from rescue diskette, to modprobe st and ncr53c8xx, after putting the
same objects in the needed directory of the ramdisk.
What about the cpqarray ? How can I see the dependency of modules
needed ?
Still about the tape. When I boot from HD the module is automatically
loaded, when I start from the boot diskette I need to load it manually
with modprobe, why ?
Thank you all.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Apache Recompile
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:40:00 GMT
Hello all,
I am fcaing a typical problem with RedHat 6.2 Apache recompile. I want
to recompile apache for Max Clinets =1000 . I installed the Apache
source rpm. Then changed the Max Clients =1000, and did rpm build. I was
able to get the new apache binary rpm. I then installed this apache rpm
and now the httpd.conf shows max clients = 1000.
However when I see /var/log/messages, I see that there is a warning
message for httpd: MaxClients of 1000 exceeds compile time limit of 256
servers, lowering MaxClients to 256. To increase, please see the
HARD_SERVER_LIMIT define in src/include/httpd. httpd startup succeeded.
Where have I gone wrong? What is the correct method of recompiling using
the rpm.
All Help highly appreciated.
Regards,
Sanvir
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From: Sanvir Singh Jham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache on RedHat6.2
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 07:55:59 GMT
Hello All,
Can any one out there help me to recompile Apache on Redhat6.2? I want
to have the MaxClient parameter set to 1000, since i will more than
1000 users logging into my web server. I am not conversant with the
RPMs, so if any of the gurus can shower some light, it would be just
great.
All help greatly appreciated.
regards
Sanvir
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: via82cxxx
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:07:16 GMT
In article <8s5g0r$mk9$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Olivier Brucker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> does anyone know how to install properly the sound when using a via chipset
> (VIA VT82c686a integrated to the motherboard asus K7V) on a kernel 2.2.17 ?
> (my problem is that the module via82cxxx can't be loaded ...)
>
> thanks,
>
> Yul
>
>
Hi
Native driver works quite well with on-board VIA sound chip.
Here you may find some helpful information. (configuration
working on Chaintech CT-6ASA4 motherboard).
1. Go to bios setup and check that in "integrated
peripherals" section you see something like this:
Onboard legacy Audio Enabled
Sound blaster Enabled
SB I/O base address 220H
SB DMA Select DMA1
MPU 401 Enabled
MPU 401 I/O address 300-303H
Make appropriate changes if necessary and reboot.
2. Make sure you have all essential sound modules ready.
You need: via82cxxx.o, sb.o, uart401.o, sound.o, soundcore.o
3. Modify your conf.modules file so that it has following
entries:
alias sound via82cxxx
options sb support=1
4. Check that sound is correctly initialized during
startup. I have following in rc.sysinit (RedHat):
# load sound modules
if [ -n "$USEMODULES" ]; then
if grep -s -q "^alias sound" /etc/conf.modules ; then
action "Loading sound module" modprobe sound
fi
fi
5. Reboot and after logging in run dmesg, you should see
lines looking like this:
Soundblaster audio driver Copyright (C) by Hannu Savolainen 1993-1996
via_audio: Initialized AC97 mixer via_audio: legacy MIDI: 0x300, SB: 0x220 /
5 IRQ / 1 DMA SB 3.02 detected OK (220) This sound card may not be fully
Sound Blaster Pro compatible. In many cases there is another way to configure
OSS so that it works properly with OSS (for example in 16 bit mode). Please
ignore this message if you _really_ have a SB Pro. via_audio: VIA 82Cxxx
Audio driver 1.1.2.1 loaded via_audio: Chip rev unknown!. Features: SBPro
compat, MPU-401 MIDI, AC97 mixer
If there are no "failed" messages, everything should work
now. At this step you may try playing CD for instance.
Best wishes.
Alex
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From: Harry Kroonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Microsoft's Anti Linux Page
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:00:28 +0200
Jerry McBride wrote:
> >> I don't know if anyone's looked at this page before (It's currently on
> >> Slashdot).
> >>
> >> 'Linux cannot deliver on the hype', indeed...
> >
>
> Ok... Ok... Everybody say it together now... Fear Uncertainty Doubt... FUD...
>
> MicroSoft has made BILLIONS on that...
Well, it looks like Micro$oft will move into washing powder commercials soon:
top 10 reasons to move to windows 2000 professional
#1: Value. The number one reason to move to Windows 2000 Professional is the
overall value it offers your business. As this list proves, Windows 2000
Professional can help you reduce costs through improved management and increase
productivity through improved reliability and ease of use. For example, analysis
conducted at Credit Suisse First Boston predicted that using Windows� 2000
Professional could reduce the firm's directly related IT costs by 15 percent, as
well as improve employee productivity by cutting computer-related unproductive time
by as much as 41 percent. For more about return on investment, see these reports
from Giga Information Group, Inc. and Arthur Andersen.
#2: Reliability. An essential requirement for business users is a personal computer
they can count on. That's why Windows 2000 Professional includes fundamental
improvements�such as modifications to the operating system core to prevent crashes
and the ability for the operating system to repair itself �that make it most
reliable desktop operating system Microsoft has ever produced. On comparative
reliability tests conducted by ZD Labs, the average system uptime of Windows 2000
Professional was over 50 times that of Windows 98 and 17 times that of Windows NT
Workstation 4.0.
<etc.etc>
Harry Kroonen
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Copying an 7GB-partition to an 8GB-partition
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:36:39 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Otto Wyss wrote:
>
> I'd like to copy/moving anything on a 7GB-partition to an 8GB-partition.
> What's the best way to do it?
>
> O. Wyss
cp -a /data/on/7G/partition /data/on/8G/partition
Eric
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: HELP: Boot / HD problem
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 10:39:25 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bernd Rellinghaus wrote:
>
> Hi there,
>
> I have a problem with booting my notebook (Gericom Silver
> Seraph) that is installed for dual boot (Windows98 / Linux):
> Normal boot is no longer possible and the system tells me:
> <No Operating System>. I cannot boot from the hard disk,
> nor can I access it via DOS or Windows utilities. (LILO is
> supposed to do the boot job and is thus installed in the MBR
> [and it worked well for more than half a year]).
>
> However I CAN boot via Linux boot disk to start linux on the
> hard disk. (Trying the same with Windows98 results in an
> error message: <Error: 0x01>). Now, here comes the
> question: During the (Linux) boot sequence I obtain a message
> from the partition check program saying:
>
> < hda: [PTBL] [789/255/63] hda1 hda2 ..... >.
>
What does `fdisk -l /dev/hda` return?
eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Kocynjski)
Subject: Re: Which windowing system? X-windows?
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:42:57 GMT
In article <ptDI5.2237$ms5.26840@news>, "gSe7eN"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm sorry if I sounded like a jerk, but I guess you responded better than I
>thought you would. I felt bad about saying that after I posted it, but I'm
>just really pissed off at Micro$haft right now. It's like comparing Linux
>to winblows, something that just shouldn't be done. So don't take that as a
>personal attack, take it as a Vote for Ralph Nader Because He Really Wants
>to See Bill Gates Dead attack. And that's true, too!
>
No prob. See, graciousness always wins in the end.
I like Nader. I'd vote for him -- but I don't like Bush. If everyone for
Nader voted for Gore, Bush would not be president. Give it some thought in
three weeks.
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Setting env vars globally
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:23:54 GMT
Where do i set environment vars so that they effect all users /
processes ?
TIA
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ...
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:30:24 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> In article <8soa58$4sj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > I do find the disk-related
> > special files in /dev belong to group "disk", but I can't conceive
> > the reason for this arrangement.
>
> So that a user can be added to the "disk" group, and so have
permissions
> to read and write those devices directly.
In what circumstances would one want to do that? Any example
is very much welcome!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: What is the purpose of root, bin, daemon, lp, ...
Date: 24 Oct 2000 10:57:00 +0100
In article <8t3hb1$lcd$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> In article <8soa58$4sj$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> > I do find the disk-related
>> > special files in /dev belong to group "disk", but I can't conceive
>> > the reason for this arrangement.
>>
>> So that a user can be added to the "disk" group, and so have
>permissions
>> to read and write those devices directly.
>
>In what circumstances would one want to do that? Any example
>is very much welcome!
To format floppies and to mount and unmount disks.
/A
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: Setting env vars globally
Date: 24 Oct 2000 11:02:10 +0100
In article <8t3guo$l0j$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Where do i set environment vars so that they effect all users /
>processes ?
>
>TIA
>Paul
I think this is distribution dependent. On Debian GNU/Linux systems
you may add system wide things in "/etc/profile" or in
"/etc/bash.bashrc" if people use 'bash'. Otherwise one uses
"/etc/environment", but I don't know if that'll work on non-Debian
systems (If you have those files it'll probably work).
/A
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