Linux-Misc Digest #127, Volume #28 Sun, 17 Jun 01 08:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: How do I get the module files for a new kernel build? (fred smith)
Re: need module alias name ("D. Stimits")
Re: Kernel panic/ unable to mount root ("D. Stimits")
Re: Linux X goes away??? (J Sloan)
Re: Visual Network Monitoring Tools?? ("Dave Stanton")
Re: What does etc stand for? ("Dave Stanton")
Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card (Yongchun Zhang)
Re: In Linux, how can I read CDRW data store at Win2k? (SteveCampbell)
Re: Total Linux newbie ("Taavi Hein")
Re: Linux, DAT and DOS Tapes (Juergen Pfann)
Re: What does etc stand for? (Michael Heiming)
how does linux work? (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Diez)
Re: how does linux work? (Michael Heiming)
any Iomega ZIP USB users? (Ray)
Re: how does linux work? (Stanislaw Flatto)
Opening tgz files in MS Windows (phil hunt)
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From: fred smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How do I get the module files for a new kernel build?
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 22:56:42 GMT
wb0gaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: I'm trying to move from kernel 2.2.14 to 2.2.18 on a redhat 6.2
: system (necessary to get the combination of peripherals I want and
: the version of Xfree I require all to work together.)
: I downloaded the 2.2.18 kernel .gz and modutils 2.2.x from ftp.kernel.org
: and was able to compile and generate a kernel that ran, however,
: PCMCIA (and other stuff) does not start because there are no
: corresponding module files in the directory (specific to the
Did you do "make modules" after you did the "make" ??
There's a document on RH's web site (it's usually linked to from the
update pages for kernel updates, I don't know the link offhand) that
gives the gory details for how to upgrade the kernel. Most of us just
download the binary RPM files from RH and install them, and thaat is
what the doc discusses, but you may still find it helpful because it
does talk about how to do things in the right order.
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:29:41 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: need module alias name
David Efflandt wrote:
>
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 23:59:17 -0600, D. Stimits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have a 2.4.x kernel, with the following modules for a joystick:
> > joydev
> > gameport
> > ns558
> > analog
> >
> > I've added the following to /etc/modules.conf so I can simply run
> > "modprobe analog" and ahve it install all related modules:
> > pre-install analog /sbin/modprobe ns558
> > pre-install ns558 /sbin/modprobe gameport
> > pre-install gameport /sbin/modprobe joydev
> >
> > What I'm having a problem with, despite having the kerneld running for
> > module autoloading, is that I must still manually modprobe analog for it
> > to work. If /dev/js0 (a sym link to /dev/input/js0) is accessed, is
> > there an alias I can add to modules.conf which will allow it to
> > autoload? I don't see any messages in /var/log/messages, so I have no
> > clue what it wants...is there an alias or other name I can alias to
> > "analog" to get it to autoload?
>
> If you want it to autoload when something tries to access js0 maybe:
>
> alias js0 analog
>
> or the preferred method might be to consult
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/devices.txt and use the major:
>
> alias char-major-15 analog
>
> --
> David Efflandt (Reply-To is valid) http://www.de-srv.com/
> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
I found out a slight twist on this. Module autoloading only occurs when
one asks for a device that has its major number probed, not minor. So if
char-major-13 is not a module (support for "input" on 2.4.x), then
modules that load on that in turn never get queried. js0 is device minor
0 of major 13 for 2.4.x kernels. The gameport, joydev, ns558, and
analog...none of those matter with "input" not as a module. As soon as I
recompiled the kernel for "input" as a module, then added an alias
similar to the above, it autoloads fine. I guess the first clue should
be that if I did "cat /dev/js0", then no log message shows up in
/var/log/messages, which would happen if it was a module support for
"input".
D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:34:34 -0600
From: "D. Stimits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Kernel panic/ unable to mount root
mike wrote:
>
> I just compiled and tried to setup kernel 2.4.2 for redhat 6.2 And I
> got a strange error
> when I booted up the new kernel this is what it said.
> root fs is not mounted
> cannot open root device"301" or 03:01
> Please append a correct "root=" boot option
> Kernel Panic ufs: unable to mount root file system on 03:01.
>
> When I edited lilo I put in the same device as my other kernel for the
> root option which is /dev/hda1
> If any of you can shed some light on what is going on it would be
> greatly apreciated. Thanks mike
You probably did not compile into the kernel enough capabilities to
mount it. A sample is if you have an ext2 partition, you must compile
ext2 support directly, not as a module; ditto for a scsi controller if
it is scsi. The alternative is to create an initial ramdisk (see
mkinitrd) where the ramdisk contains the module contents of any required
module. I recently was banging my head on the wall for a week trying to
figure out why I couldn't get a ramdisk to work...turned out I had
forgot to turn *that* support on in the kernel compile. If you need a
rescue disk, check:
http://www.toms.net/rb/home.html
In that case what you do is mount your real partition somewhere on a
temp directory of the boot disk, then chroot to the mount point, and you
can run lilo again (if you have a separate /boot directory, mount that
on the mounted root partition).
D. Stimits, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Linux X goes away???
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 08:09:06 GMT
David Hartnett wrote:
> What's making the X server unhappy is the fact that this new version 4
> is not complete with the necessary drivers for all cards. We will be
> lucky if it is a completed server by the end of the year.
There may be some truth in that, not all cards which
were supported in 3.x are supported in 4.x yet -
however most of them are supported...
> The best
> thing is to probably ignore version 4 and install version 3.3.6, which
> performed almost flawlessly because it had a driver base for
> everything. RedHat rawhide has 4.1 for the next release but its
> unknown if it is complete.
>
> I'm dealing with RedHat 7.1 and it is very disappointing.
That's odd, we've installed RH 7.1 on probably 20 boxes
by now and are very happy with it. It comes with ssl, ssh,
the 2.4 kernel. It has been solid as a rock on a number of
systems including HP Netservers, Dell 2450s, IBM 350s,
Compaq 6500s, and various clone boxes (AMD K6, Pentium,
Pentium II, Pentium III). Video cards include voodoo 3 AGP
and PCI, (which were all correctly set up for 2D and accelerated
3D right out of the box!) , Matrox Millenia, ATI Rage, S3, and
Cirrus Logic based cards - no complaints at all here!
cu
jjs
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Visual Network Monitoring Tools??
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:38:03 +0100
In article <YVIW6.84402$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Subba Rao"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are there any visual tools that will generate network maps for network
> admins? Most of the tools are commercial and are specific to some
> platform (OpenView from HP and NetView from IBM). I am looking for
> something that could be used on Linux or OpenBSD.
>
> Any information or pointers appreciated.
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> Subba Rao
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have a look on comp.os.linux.announce, I am sure I saw something along
these lines a few weeks back.
Cheers
Dave
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From: "Dave Stanton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does etc stand for?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:38:09 +0100
I
> Well, if you can't you can't. I tend to think that Kernigan and Pike
> know what they are talking about, though.
Could I now show my lack of knowledge an dask who are they ?
Dave
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yongchun Zhang)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Problems using RH 7.1 with SiS 630 Graphics Card
Date: 17 Jun 2001 01:44:42 -0700
I made stupid mistakes by including the Sis630 video card support in my previous
kernel building efforts. After I remove it, both 2.4.3 and 2.4.5 compiles fine
and are able to boot to text mode. Now my problem is just the X! The only time I
was able to boot into X is with my RedHat 7.1 @640x480, with the "shifted" screen.
Never once with Mandrake 8.0, except running it's xf86cfg.
I don't know why Xconfigurator always causes segmentation fault in Mandrake. The
xf86config and xf86cfg seem out of date too :-(.
I had made my XF86Config file almost the same as in that link. Now my problem is
when I run startx, it fails with the following error message:
" Fatal server error:
open_framebuffer: failed to open /dev/fb0 (no such device)
XIO: fatal IO error 104 (connection reset by peer) on X server ":0.0"
It's weird since my /dev/fb0 is right there. I have even removed them all, and
mknod, still doesn't work.
I have tried the instruction from SiS at first time and doesn't work.
BTW, I have figured out what that "vga =0x317" thing means. It's an option in
your lilo.conf file.
Thanks a lot for all your help. Wish me luck.
Yongchun
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From: SteveCampbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: In Linux, how can I read CDRW data store at Win2k?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:58:11 +0100
Duncan MacGregor wrote:
> In article <9fi1ms$jko$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
>>> If you mount my CDRW disc as iso9660, I see the following files:
>>>
>>> autorun.inf* udfrinst.exe*
>>>
>
> These are two Windoze files, that will automatically install a UDF file
> reader in windoze, if you do not see the disk as being UDF.
>
well these are both windows binaries for the windows system, so you have
as much chance as you do of running pico in windows.
Now think about this, if the disc has a non-iso udf system why mount it as
iso.
try
mount t=udf /dev/cdrom
not sure of exact syntax, check man mount.
also you cannot as yet mount a udf disc as readwrite. There is a program
called packetcd but i dont think it is quite ready.
good luck
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From: "Taavi Hein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Total Linux newbie
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 01:10:24 +0300
: newbies is Mandrake 8.0 or SuSE 7.1 or RedHat 7.1. These are far more
I wouldn't suggest RedHat, at least not 7.0 or 7.1 they do look friendly and
easy, but there are some important stuff, that's broken and to hard to
repair for a complete beginner. SuSE 7.1 seems nice though, haven't found
any serious flaws yet (except I cant locate the package that contains the
'adduser' program), but I have been using it for less than a week now.
--
Taavi Hein - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user #209546
Registered Linux machine #97395
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From: Juergen Pfann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux, DAT and DOS Tapes
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:53:12 +0200
Peter Kohut wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I've got a problem at hand for which I don't seem to find an easy solution:
>
> I have a machine running Redhat Linux with a SCSI interface and a SONY 4mm
> DAT hanging of it. I also have a bunch of tapes which were originally
> written using NT Backup and Restore. My question is
>
> a) is there any way that I can restore the content of the tapes using Linux?
> b) I also have a second machine running Win 2000, but unfortunately without
> SCSI. The Win 2000 machine is connected to the Linux machine using simple
> TCP/IP and SAMBA shares. Is it possible to configure the systems such that I
> can use the Windows 2000 Backup/Restore application with the DAT drive
> hanging of the Linux machine?
>
> All my search so far was pretty fruiteless. Any help is greatly appreciated!
>
Hmm - I'm sorry I can't offer you readymade solutions, just hints and
links :
a) I remember having seen a project for at least reading MS Tape Format
(MTF)
tapes. That's the format NT Backup uses. That was maybe some 1.5
years ago,
and the SW was at an alpha state then. IIRC that was somewhere below
ftp://metalab.unc.edu/system/backup; the name was something with
"MTF",
I believe. Search there, at google or sourceforge, please.
b) Using tar from UNIX(like) to UNIX(like) systems, it *is* possible to
use remote tape drives via /etc/rmt. The syntax is like (e.g. backup)
:
"tar cvf remote_machine:/dev/tape_device /" (substitute the hostname
and the appropriate device name on the remote tape "server".
Thus, this could be possible with a tar port supporting this.
Now, I do know at least 3 tar ports for the various MS Win systems.
2 of these support _local_ SCSI tapes, no remote support IIRC.
Another one was built assuming the tape drive is on a remote *NIX
system - BUT that was a stone-age old 16-bit app designed for Win
3.x,
with a very simple GUI and just supporting _8+3_ filenames :-((.
The name was some like "WinTar"; I think I saw it on some old
CICA mirror CD.
Let's hope someone resumed that work as a Win32 app...
Just my $.02
Juergen
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What does etc stand for?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:18:04 +0200
Dave Stanton wrote:
>
> I
> > Well, if you can't you can't. I tend to think that Kernigan and Pike
> > know what they are talking about, though.
>
> Could I now show my lack of knowledge an dask who are they ?
>
> Dave
Info about Brian Kernighan and Rob Pike:
http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/rob/
http://cm.bell-labs.com/who/bwk/index.html
And before you ask, well but who is, Dennis M. Ritchie:
http://www.cs.bell-labs.com/who/dmr/index.html
Michael Heiming
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From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= Diez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: how does linux work?
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:47:55 +0200
can anyone tell me, where I can find a good explanation how linux works?
I thought of thing like task management, scheduling, memory management, io
management, module programming in linux, interrupt handling and so on.
I'm a newbie in these linux questions, but I want to know more about how
linux works.
--
*** replace '-antspam-' by 'uni' ***
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From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how does linux work?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:54:39 +0200
J�rgen Diez wrote:
>
> can anyone tell me, where I can find a good explanation how linux works?
> I thought of thing like task management, scheduling, memory management, io
> management, module programming in linux, interrupt handling and so on.
>
> I'm a newbie in these linux questions, but I want to know more about how
> linux works.
>
> --
> *** replace '-antspam-' by 'uni' ***
http://www.linuxhq.com/lkprogram.html
However, you should perhaps try using a search engine and check
www.linuxdoc.org.
Michael Heiming
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From: Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: any Iomega ZIP USB users?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 11:09:34 +0100
hi
i'm considering buying an external Iomega Zip 100 USB drive to use with
my laptop (toshiba sat pro 4340) which has an Intel 82371AB PIIX4 USB
controller and running linux 2.4.3.
i've looked at
http://www.linux-usb.org (this list the mass storage drv in the
kernel as experimental?)
http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices
http://www.iomega.com/software/linuxtools.html
and they seem to indicate that the Iomega zip 100 USB does work,
although there is mixed reports about the drivers that are availbel for
this device - the kernel ubs_storage.o and the iomega provided utils
(for 2.4.0pre).
also, i have heard/read somewhere that different versions of the zip100
use different protocols, and wondered if this would be a problem when
using the kernel driver (which i would prefer to use)
if anyone could give me any hints on their current working
configurations; part numbers from the devices/kernel output would also
be useful.
thanks for any info
ray
ps - could ppl CC me on replies - thanks again...
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: how does linux work?
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 20:43:46 +1000
J�rgen Diez wrote:
> can anyone tell me, where I can find a good explanation how linux works?
> I thought of thing like task management, scheduling, memory management, io
> management, module programming in linux, interrupt handling and so on.
>
> I'm a newbie in these linux questions, but I want to know more about how
> linux works.
>
> --
> *** replace '-antspam-' by 'uni' ***
Veeeery simple, just read the source code of the kernel and modules.
Not much just 70Mb of it for the 2.2.16 that I use.
It's all there.
Have fun and good luck.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (phil hunt)
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.ms-windows.apps.misc,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Opening tgz files in MS Windows
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2001 12:53:09 +0100
I maintain a website which includes some open source software
I have written; the packages are downloadable as gzipped tarballs,
which were created using
tar czvf
(Using GNU tar). These packages are all valid AFAICT, because I
can download them from the website
(see <http://www.vision25.demon.co.uk/oss/oss.html>)
wih no problem, and untar them with ``tar xzvf''.
However, some people have recently emailed me, saying they can't
unpack thmr on their windows machines. I tried this, using Windows98
Netscape, and WinZip, and I couldn't unpack them either.
I was under the impression that WinZip could deal with .tgz
and .tar.gz files (same file format, different extension)? Is
this not the case? Or is there some subtle problem with GNU tar?
Do I need to save the packages as .zip archives, for Windows
users to be able to unpack them?
--
## Philip Hunt ##
## [EMAIL PROTECTED] ##
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