Linux-Misc Digest #162, Volume #26 Sat, 28 Oct 00 10:13:02 EDT
Contents:
learn linux in 24 hrs ("E B")
Changing my profile/user name. ("mordak")
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ("Les Mikesell")
Re: Backward compatibility of linux libraries? (Erik de Castro Lopo)
Re: SuSE Linux 7.0 problems (Markus Kossmann)
Re: Graphics Viewer. (Glitch)
nfs hung after system crash -what to do? (Elliot)
Stock Red Hat 7 kernel compile fails. (repost) (Jeff Workman)
uninstalling... (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?=)
Re: uninstalling... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Netscape refuses connect to my INBOX (Waiting for connection to folder (Joerg
Spilker)
Re: How can conect a Text Console to serial port? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: themes from windowz (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: using linux to emulate a serial printer ?? (Chris J/#6)
Re: Stock Red Hat 7 kernel compile fails. (repost) (Hal Burgiss)
xosview Serial port display (Robert Jones)
Re: uninstalling... (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?=)
Re: uninstalling... ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Backward compatibility of linux libraries? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: viewing Chinese. (=?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?=)
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From: "E B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.advocacy,linux.redhat.misc,utah.linux
Subject: learn linux in 24 hrs
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 22:19:16 -0600
Teach yourself Linux with these books:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=481107344
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=481112305
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From: "mordak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing my profile/user name.
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 04:33:07 GMT
Hello,
When I installed SuSE 7.0 Pro, I had to enter a name "Kenneth M. Gutkowski"
in Yast2 when I put the user name and password in. My question is how do I
change my name "Kenneth M. Gutkowski" to just "Ken G."? I have notice under
Netscape 4.73 when you view the source of a message you send to yourself,
that it uses your initial profile name not the one entered in Netscape under
the Preferences/Mail & News Groups/Identity. I have searched the net with
Google for any discussion threads that might have anything to do with this
but alas, I have come up empty handed. Any help you all might shed on this
subject is appreciated.
Thanks,
Ken G.
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From: "Les Mikesell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 05:34:48 GMT
"Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:Ub6K5.310$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I disagree with this one sorry. Win2k can be rock solid, mines been up
and
> running for 1 month. The only time it goes down is updates and
> thunderstorms. I might also add the Linux box has been up for 2 weeks.
> Course that's also how long I've had it running Linux.
>
> But come on, you can't be seriously saying that learning Linux is as easy
to
> learn as windows?
Linux is much easier. If you learned unix 20 years ago you would realize
it is all very stable and sensible, while Microsoft changes the way
windows does things every year or two for no particular reason
and you have to learn it all over again.
Les Mikesell
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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backward compatibility of linux libraries?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 05:46:11 +0000
Rafael wrote:
>
> Are Backward compatibile linux libraries? Can I install new one and have
> no problem with old programs using older versions of the same
> libraries??
It really depends on whoever wrote the libray.
Under unix it is relatively easy to write libraries in such as way
that multiple versions can co-exists.
Erik
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J. Headley: "God, root, what is difference ?"
G. Haverland: "God can change the byte order on the CPU, root can't."
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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SuSE Linux 7.0 problems
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 06:55:47 +0200
Brendan Heading wrote:
>
> In article <5boJ5.14015$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Grahame
> Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> >You should update to X 4.0.1 from suse.com. I did and it fixed the
> >same problems I had with my Matrox card.
>
> I updated it and the problems seem to have subsided. I found it easier
> to modify the XF86Config file directly, though, rather than use their
> SaX2 utility.
>
> Weirdly now the KDE2 final build won't go on to my system at all.
> Attempting to install the KDEBase2 RPM returns with a failed dependency
> error (libXm.o). I installed the other required RPMs first. A lot of
> them contain similarly named libraries so I'm wondering if the person
> who compiled the rpm may have made a typo ?
>
Install the lesstif rpm,which contains libXm. One of the apps in KDE
package may need libXm if configured so .
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Markus Kossmann
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Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 04:33:44 -0400
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Graphics Viewer.
never ceases to amaze me, this person must be blind
Dally wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello.
>
> Irecently purchase a cumputer, an my friend is trying to send me a
> picture with the E-Mail but for some reason I can get the picture at
> all.my co worker tell me to go to www.winfiles.com to try to get a graphic
> viewer to down load to my cumputer.Can you please tell me what to do to be
> able to see the picture .an if you can send me intruction on how to
> install this progran in my cumputer.Thank You I'am new with cumputer.
>
> Thank You Again
>
> Dally.
>
> --
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> http://www.help.com/
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From: Elliot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: nfs hung after system crash -what to do?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 10:30:03 -0000
We have 4 linux servers sharing data via nfs mounts. Yesterday on system
crashed badly (possibly a hardware fault). The immediate problem was to
get the other 3 functioning properly. The trouble was they all hung after
any command involving NFS (such as an ls on the directory that contains
the mount points). Such hangs could not be interupted. Opening a new
terminal and issuing an umount command for the 'lost' mounts did not work
either - again an uniteruptable hang. Variations of kill on the hung
processes did not work. I believe this is a feature of nfs. Even normal
rebooting could not take place: that's right, unable to umount nfs drives!
(hence shutdown hanging).
The only thing that worked was editing the drives from the down machine
out of fstab, issuing the command sync (for what is was worth) and then
pressing the reset button. Everything came up fine (that is for the 3
machines still alive)- but surely there is a more elegant way of removing
dead mounts?
Elliot
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From: Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Stock Red Hat 7 kernel compile fails. (repost)
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 06:49:06 -0400
Due to lack of response to this, I am reposting it with the hopes that
somebody can help me this time.
All,
OK, I have read the gotchas and caveats about RH 7 and it's "kgcc" but it
still doesn't help the problem I'm having.
This is the errors I am getting on 2 different boxes. One of these is a
RH 6.2 server install upgraded to RH 7 and the other is a clean RH 7
workstation class install. No modification to the kernel configuration
has been made or anything, just a simple "make menuconfig" then immediate
save, then a "make dep; make clean; make bzImage" which gives the
following compile errors on both machines. Can somebody tell me what the
fix is for this?
TIA,
Jeff
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m386 -DCPU=386
-DUTS_MACHINE='"i386"' -c -o init/version.o init/version.c
make -C kernel
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make all_targets
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
kgcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -fno-strength-reduce -m386 -DCPU=386
-DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c ksyms.c
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/modversions.h:50,
from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/module.h:19,
from ksyms.c:14:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:6: warning: `cpu_data' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/processor.h:96: warning: this is the location of the
previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:28: warning: `smp_num_cpus'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:77: warning: this is the location of the previous
definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:118: warning: `smp_call_function'
redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/smp.h:83: warning: this is the location of the previous
definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:51,
from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/hardirq.h:23: warning: `synchronize_irq' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:138: warning: this is the location
of the previous definition
In file included from /usr/src/linux/include/linux/interrupt.h:52,
from ksyms.c:21:
/usr/src/linux/include/asm/softirq.h:75: warning: `synchronize_bh' redefined
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/modules/i386_ksyms.ver:142: warning: this is the location
of the previous definition
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h: In function `kstat_irqs':
In file included from ksyms.c:17:
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: `smp_num_cpus' undeclared (first use in
this function)
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: (Each undeclared identifier is reported
only once
/usr/src/linux/include/linux/kernel_stat.h:47: for each function it appears in.)
make[2]: *** [ksyms.o] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.2.16/kernel'
make: *** [_dir_kernel] Error 2
--
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-- An anonymous representative of a very large telco
"For competitive reasons we can't tell you the location of our backhoe."
-- An anonymous representative of a contractor.
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: uninstalling...
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:36:17 +0800
Is there any way to uninstall a program after make install??
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: uninstalling...
Date: 28 Oct 2000 11:59:55 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc uLiWopol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Is there any way to uninstall a program after make install??
Sure. Remove the files it installed and replace them with the backup
copies you made of the originals. Read its README.
Peter
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From: Joerg Spilker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Netscape refuses connect to my INBOX (Waiting for connection to folder
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 13:30:44 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,
for some unknown reason, Netscape 4.73 refuses to contact my IMAP
server to read my personal mail. My system is SuSE 5.0 running with
kernel 2.0.30 (ok, really old). Netscape just sits there and stats:
Waiting for connection to folder inbox. I can read all the mail in my
IMAP subfolders but the INBOX doesn=B4t work. The strange thing is that
this appears now since about 3 days and it worked all the years
before. I think that i don=B4t change anything on my configuration.
Accessing my INBOX from another client using Outlook express also
works.
Probably someone has an idea how to solve my problem. If nothing will
help, i=B4ll try to completely reinstall netscape
Greetings, Joerg Spilker
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How can conect a Text Console to serial port?
Date: 28 Oct 2000 12:02:39 GMT
Falcon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ Hi .
[ I have a text console and I interesting to attach it to my RedHat in the
[ seria port.
[ HardWare :
[ VISA Text Console
[ HP PC Vectra VE
[ DB 25 to DB 9 serial cable.
check the serial port HOWTO in linuxdoc.org
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: themes from windowz
Date: 28 Oct 2000 12:04:04 GMT
Marc D. Williams ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
[ On Thu, 19 Oct 2000 05:11:43 +0200, Evaristo wrote:
[ >Hi, there are any way to import windowz themes to linux kde or gnome
[ >xwindow stile?
[ >
Find kTheme in freshmeat.net, it just ggot released to an unsuspecting
public yesterday, 27 Oct
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Subject: Re: using linux to emulate a serial printer ??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 28 Oct 2000 13:23:33 +0100
Henry Psenicka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I want to set up an old 486PC to monitor a telephone PBX system.
>Major requirements are:
>
>1. Able to run a terminal session over a serial port to operate
>PBX console session.... this is nothing special, any terminal software
>should handle this. ( Hyperterm under Windows will do this)
>
>2. Able to emulate a serial printer (via COM2 serial port) to
>capture PBX activity logs to a file on disk. Can this be done with
>any terminal software, or is something special required?
>
See what minicom can do. It's a text terminal program much like hyperterm. You
can switch logging on so all i/o on the serial port gets logged to disk.
Chris...
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ for then do it for the world." -- Stevie Nicks
www.nccnet.co.uk/~sixie/ ~---------------------------------------+
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hal Burgiss)
Subject: Re: Stock Red Hat 7 kernel compile fails. (repost)
Reply-To: Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 12:43:40 GMT
On Sat, 28 Oct 2000 06:49:06 -0400, Jeff Workman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Due to lack of response to this, I am reposting it with the hopes that
>somebody can help me this time.
>
>OK, I have read the gotchas and caveats about RH 7 and it's "kgcc" but it
>still doesn't help the problem I'm having.
>
>This is the errors I am getting on 2 different boxes. One of these is a
>RH 6.2 server install upgraded to RH 7 and the other is a clean RH 7
>workstation class install. No modification to the kernel configuration
>has been made or anything, just a simple "make menuconfig" then immediate
>save, then a "make dep; make clean; make bzImage" which gives the
>following compile errors on both machines. Can somebody tell me what the
>fix is for this?
Try a 'make mrproper' first to clean things out. Is this RH kernel
source, and raw source from kernel.org?
--
Hal B
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From: Robert Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: xosview Serial port display
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 08:01:21 -0500
My interpretation of the man page and the README.linux file that comes
with xosview tells me that adding my serial port to the display is
simple. But it doesn't work. I have determined that the program is, in
fact, reading /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XOsview when it is started by
disabling a default display. (I think I used 'interrupts' to test.)
I'm running RH6.0 with a 2.2.16 kernel on an AMD K6-2 400MHz machine.
Serial ports are integrated 16550A; external modem on ttyS1. Here is the
serial port section of my altered XOsview file:
! Serial Meter Resources
! set 'True' for autodetection or give the baseaddress
! (autodetection may fail sometimes, if
! the port is locked by ppp/slip for example)
!xosview*serial0: 0x3f8
xosview*serial1: 0x2f8 <=== Uncommented this line
!xosview*serial2: 0x3e8
!xosview*serial3: 0x2e8
xosview*serial0: False
!xosview*serial1: False <==== Commented this line
xosview*serial2: False
xosview*serial3: False
xosview*serial4: False
xosview*serial5: False
xosview*serial6: False
xosview*serial7: False
xosview*serial8: False
xosview*serial9: False
xosview*serialOnColor: red
xosview*serialOffColor: aquamarine
xosview*serialPriority: 1
Oops. I almost forgot to mention that the xosview executable is SUID.
-rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 87272 Mar 22 1999
/usr/X11R6/bin/xosview
[root@localhost rj]# rpm -q xosview
xosview-1.7.1-2
Can someone explain what I'm missing here?
--
7:27am up 14 days, 52 min, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.16, 0.06
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: uninstalling...
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 20:59:22 +0800
must I uninstall manually or is there any other easier methods
"Peter T. Breuer" �g�D�G
> In comp.os.linux.misc uLiWopol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : Is there any way to uninstall a program after make install??
>
> Sure. Remove the files it installed and replace them with the backup
> copies you made of the originals. Read its README.
>
> Peter
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,hk.comp.os.linux,it.comp.linux,linux.help
Subject: Re: uninstalling...
Date: 28 Oct 2000 13:16:34 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc XXXXXXXX <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
:> In comp.os.linux.misc uLiWopol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : Is there any way to uninstall a program after make install??
:>
:> Sure. Remove the files it installed and replace them with the backup
:> copies you made of the originals. Read its README.
: must I uninstall manually or is there any other easier methods
Depends. Read its README and find out.
(and what's hard about removing its files, and where would anything
you happened to overwrite magically reappear from?)
Peter
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Backward compatibility of linux libraries?
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 09:30:21 -0400
Rafael wrote:
> Are Backward compatibile linux libraries? Can I install new one and have
> no problem with old programs using older versions of the same
> libraries??
>
> Rafael
It is supposed to be possible, and it always has been for me, except I
cannot upgrade glibc-2.1.1-7.6 to glibc-2.1.3-21. When I do that,
everything works except IBM's DB2 V6.1 UDB which just hangs. It took me a
week to figure out what was wrong. I just moved back to glibc-2.1.1-7.6 to
fix it, but I hate it that way as the new version supposedly fixes some
security bugs.
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.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 9:25am up 3 days, 20:44, 2 users, load average: 3.13, 3.23, 3.12
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?= <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,hk.comp.os.linux,linux.help,tw.bbs.comp.linux
Subject: Re: viewing Chinese.
Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 21:31:21 +0800
I want to view chinese text, not print chinese text.
"Eric Y. Chang" �g�D�G
> cnprint-2.30.linux.lsm
>
> =?iso-8859-1?Q?=B5L=A6W=A4p=A4l?= ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> : How can I make Linux able to view chinese text in X windows? I don't
> : want to change to a chinese interface.
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