Linux-Misc Digest #182, Volume #26 Mon, 30 Oct 00 04:13:02 EST
Contents:
WindowMaker question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
New Tips from GoingWare's Bag of Tricks ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Suddenly, no Inet... (Jerry L Kreps)
Re: adding hardware in linux (E J)
Re: Turning services off and on? (E J)
Re: ftp tools for linux ("Jeff")
Re: WindowMaker question ("Jan Schaumann")
Anybody got KDE 2 running on RedHat 7 Yet? ("Jeff")
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. ("Peter T. Breuer")
Re: Found perfect solution Re: Diabolical plot uncovered... (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: env var (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Re: Bootable install CDs survey (muzh)
Re: Redhat, Slackware, SUSE, FreeBSD, Help... (Stanislaw Flatto)
Is HP 970 CXi printer supported (TM)
UDF support (TM)
UDF support (TM)
Re: UDF support (Eric)
Re: cron and end of daylight savings time (Villy Kruse)
Re: UDF support (TM)
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux. (Joe Schaefer)
Re: Partition table problem (Eric)
How to Auto Insert USB module? (root)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WindowMaker question
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 03:57:36 GMT
anyone know how to make the window manager WindowMaker switch between
apps like windows does with pressingt alt+tab? i can make it do it,
but the window wont pop up to the front of all the other
windows/programs i have running
please respond by email
nwilde @ toughguy . net
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.arch.embedded,comp.os.qnx,comp.realtime
Subject: New Tips from GoingWare's Bag of Tricks
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 04:17:02 GMT
Announcing two new articles from GoingWare's Bag of Programming Tricks,
one in the Business section and the other in "On Becoming a Programmer".
from Business:
The Valley is a Harsh Mistress
http://www.goingware.com/tips/misery.html
Founding a high-tech company is an incredibly risky proposition - and
your worries are not over when your product ships, when you receive
venture capital or even when you go public; in fact, VC's and Wall
Street often cause more problems than they solve.
This page discusses the troubles of Working Software, Live
Picture, and embedded operating system vendor Be, Inc. It recommends
a couple of books, one about once-promising startup Go Corporation
and the other a classic on large-scale software engineering.
from On Becoming a Programmer:
Resign with Dignity
http://www.goingware.com/tips/resignation.html
My resignation from now-bankrupt Live Picture Inc, three hours after
receiving the news that it would be moving from a small town in rural
Santa Cruz County to urban Silicon Valley. While I usually advocate
working within your company to work for the better, sometimes one does
not have the power to effect meaningful change, and in such a case a
dignified resignation may be the better choice.
GoingWare's Bag of Programming Tricks may be found at
http://www.goingware.com/tips/ and also includes:
Study Fundamentals Not Tools, APIs or OSes
Market Yourself - Tips for High-Tech Consultants
Properly Managing Memory Returned by transcode() in the Xerces XML
Library
MacsBug Tips and Tricks
Michael D. Crawford
GoingWare Inc - Expert Software Development and Consulting
http://www.goingware.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tilting at Windmills for a Better Tomorrow.
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Jerry L Kreps <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suddenly, no Inet...
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 22:33:26 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is in your /etc/resolv.conf ??
JLK
Ross M. Greenberg wrote:
> I had a hard disk crash, got a new disk, reinstalled Corel Linux and all
> is back together, except no Internet access.
>
> I can ping within my network but I can't seem to go out to the Inet; no
> pings
> go off it. Dual Boot machine with Win98 and through it, no probs: only on
> the
> Linux side of things. I do an ifconfig eth0 192.168.100.5 on startup, but
> I simply can't figure out where to go from here.
>
> Any ideas? What am I forgetting?
>
> (DNS and gateways set properly)
>
> TIA..
>
> Ross
>
>
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: adding hardware in linux
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:34:57 -0800
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am running Red Hat 6.2 which usually detects new hardware
> at bootup.
>
> But I really don't know how to add new hardware once I am
> booted up. Can someone please explain how to do this, either
> for the command line or from within KDE? Thanks.
>
> Also, I just bought a Hayes Faxmodem internal ISA (heard these
> are good quality) and want to install it. Also, I just bought
> a new video card I'd like to install.
>
Set your modem to a standard configuration using the jumpers or plug and
play.
Com1-/dev/ttyS0-IRQ 4 IO 3F8-3FF
Com2-/dev/ttyS1-IRQ 3 IO 2F8-2FF
$ kppp # set up your modem using the info from your isp, phone number,
gateway, primary and secondary dns, etc.
Video card:
$ su -
password: <secret>
# Xconfigurator
>
> I bought a book called Running Linux but it seems to assume you
> already know how to do basic stuff like install hardware as it
> doesn't cover this topic very well. The book focuses on system
> admin type tasks. This is good except when I need to do a very
> basic task that I have not learned to do in Linux yet.
>
> --
> Neil
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Turning services off and on?
Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 20:39:15 -0800
$ su -
password: <secret>
# cp /etc/rc.d/rc5.d /etc/rc.d/rc5.d.bak # If you are starting up on
level 5, make a copy of rc5.d just in case you mess up.
# cd /etc/rc.d/rc5.d
# rm S##services_you_dont_want
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> When my machine boots up a number of services start which
> I don't really need right now. I would imagine they effect
> performance by running in the background.
>
> I was wondering how to turn off certain services that start
> at boot and turn on others?
>
> --
> Neil
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From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ftp tools for linux
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 04:52:48 GMT
If your looking for a GUI front-end FTP app then gFTP is pretty close to the
WSFTP windows app.
>From the command line ncftp totally rocks!
rcp and scp with the -r for recursive work well too on systems where you
actually have a login!
jeff
"Te-Cheng Shen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello
> Is there any ftp tools like WSFTP on windows platform such that you
> can download the whole directory.
>
> Best
>
> STC
>
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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: WindowMaker question
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:20:41 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> anyone know how to make the window manager WindowMaker switch between
> apps like windows does with pressingt alt+tab? i can make it do it, but
> the window wont pop up to the front of all the other windows/programs i
> have running
Use the WPrefs.App - under "Miscellaneous Ergonomic Preferences you can
select "Raise window when switching Focus with Keyboard
(CirculateRaise)".
Or alternatively add "CirculateRaise = YES" to your
~/GNUstep/Default/WindowMaker
> please respond by email
nope - you ask here, I answer here.
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
Choose two:
(A) Fast (B) Efficient
(C) Stable (D) Windows 98 (counts as two)
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From: "Jeff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anybody got KDE 2 running on RedHat 7 Yet?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 00:42:12 -0500
I downloaded the rh7 rpms from kde. I downloaded the
qt2.2.1 rpms & libso rpm from raw hide and was able
to install all rpms with no errors. when I selected KDE
from the GUI login window my screen started to load
into something and then just brings me back to the log
in screen.
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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: 29 Oct 2000 09:20:51 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Joe Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
:> In comp.os.linux.misc Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
:> : On linux you can make the system effectively single-user, by olcnffvat gur
:> : abezny vavg naq trggl & ybtva cebprffrf naq fgnegvat lbhe cebprffrf
:> : frcnengryl sebz gura bajneqf, but you'd be a prize moron for bothering.
:>
: V pbhyq gryy lbh, ohg gura V'q unir gb xvyy lbh...
Now that took genius. Encoded backspaces? How how how. I'm going to
have to play with this.
Peter
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Found perfect solution Re: Diabolical plot uncovered...
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 18:41:40 +1100
jeff wrote:
> Hmmm... Nope, /dev/ttys0 doesn't seem to be working in DOS either. But
> thanks for the helpful tip :)
>
> -jeff
>
> On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 07:14:16 +1100,
> Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > jeff wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > I was trying to use ttys0, and I _should_ have used ttyS0!!!
> > >
> > > How has everyone else in the world avoided this diabolical plot?
> > >
> > > -jeff
> >
> > Use DOS, 3.3a from IBM will do.
> > Have fun.
> > Stanislaw.
> >
You are right, but inability to read properly was native to DOS.
Stanislaw.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas =?iso-8859-1?Q?K=E4h=E4ri?=)
Subject: Re: env var
Date: 30 Oct 2000 08:46:21 +0100
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Clayton Cheung wrote:
>Thanks for your respond, but I would like to do it system wide.
>Thanks again
>
>--
>Posted via CNET Help.com
>http://www.help.com/
Then make the change in /etc/profile instead.
/A
--
Andreas K�h�ri, Uppsala University, Sweden
========================================================================
"If you leave now, you're going to miss the real experience."
-- Richard M. Stallman, Stockholm 1986. Visit www.gnu.org
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From: muzh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Bootable install CDs survey
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:48:50 +1300
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yes. The first or secod disk from the Suse distribution (ever since about
5.2) is bootable, as are also all the evaluation disks (cheapbytes,
magazine covers etc). You do have the option of booting a good rescue
system, or any installed system (doesn't have to be suse) You can mount
all your partitions, edit all your scripts etc from the rescue system --
Lev Babiev wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I have installed this system back in 97 as an RH 4.2. Since then it
> mutated through various updates and changes. I'm close to recent rawhide
> library-wise, but configs and init scripts are mostly my own. (Yes, I do
> back it up from time to time). I would like to make sure I have a boot
> disk handy in case I get stuck in some way. I'd prefer to have a bootable
> CD, since I am trying to do my part of phasing out floppies ;-). I could
> put together my own. But I would prefer not to reinvent the wheel if
> possible. Now my question is, are there distribution install CDs that
> allow to do rescue? I'd like to be able to boot from CD and access my
> hard drive, have all file utils handy, plus fdisk, mount and lilo.
> (kernel must have support for sym53c875 scsi hba, since both cd and hdd
> are hanging on one).
>
> Do any distro's have a cd that allows that? Preferably cheap version from
> cheapbytes or lsl.
>
> Thank you,
> Lev
--
Never trust a man in a suit
cll
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat, Slackware, SUSE, FreeBSD, Help...
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 19:17:33 +1100
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip,snip-a'la Figaro]
Those questions pop-up frequently, there is no single answer.
As different distributions follow BSD or SysV initialisation there is
difference in placing of config files and so on.
For building a workstation or server of any complexity you will have to
administer your box, no helper programms
that will do it for you from start to end.
So a book that relates to administration of Unix/Linux in the basic way,
from the command prompt, will be the best.
Avoid books relating to certain distribution and the current release, those
fade fast.
Have fun.
Stanislaw.
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Is HP 970 CXi printer supported
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:11:24 +0100
Hello,
Is the HP 970 CXi printer supported properly by RH 7.0 ? Is there some
extra configurations necessary?
Thanks
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UDF support
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:25:54 +0100
Hello,
how do I get UDF fs support in RH 7.0
Thanks
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UDF support
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:27:51 +0100
Hello,
how to get UDF fs support in RH 7.0
Thanks
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDF support
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:42:56 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TM wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> how to get UDF fs support in RH 7.0
>
> Thanks
by compiling the udf module and then insmod it?
Eric
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: cron and end of daylight savings time
Date: 30 Oct 2000 08:46:02 GMT
On Sun, 29 Oct 2000 01:31:19 -0500,
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>So I just diddled my /etc/crontab to start nothing on Sundays
>between 1:00 AM and 2:00 AM.
>
>Any other pitfalls out there that I should know about?
>
Also, do avoid the missing hour in spring time. That between 2:00 and 3:00?
Any task which are scheduled during that hour won't run at all.
If I remember correctly, the cron daemon on SCO unix sends a warning
message if you get some sommertime problems like this. Might be a
nice idea to emulate.
Villy
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From: TM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDF support
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 10:44:05 +0100
Eric a �crit :
> TM wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > how to get UDF fs support in RH 7.0
> >
> > Thanks
>
> by compiling the udf module and then insmod it?
>
> Eric
Where can I get this module source?
Thanks
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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
From: Joe Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 30 Oct 2000 03:55:25 -0500
"Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Joe Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> : "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> :> In comp.os.linux.misc Tim Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> :> wrote:
> :> : On linux you can make the system effectively single-user, by
> :> : olcnffvat gur
> :> : abezny vavg naq trggl & ybtva cebprffrf naq fgnegvat lbhe
> :> : cebprffrf
> :> : frcnengryl sebz gura bajneqf, but you'd be a prize moron for
> :> : bothering.
>
> : V pbhyq gryy lbh, ohg gura V'q unir gb xvyy lbh...
>
> Now that took genius. Encoded backspaces? How how how. I'm going to
> have to play with this.
It's always a good idea to compress your data before encrypting it;
but lossless compression is usually preferable.
Cheers.
--
Joe Schaefer
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partition table problem
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 09:56:34 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Jerry, L, Kreps, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > > Well...
> > > >
> > > > So I decide to install Caldera OpenLinux. I find 2.3 at the
> store, buy
> > > > it, install, have a few glitches at first with LILO and my video
> card,
> > > > but get it working correctly eventually as a dual-boot with
> Windows
> > > > 98. Then I install Microsoft Office 97. Big mistake. Computer
> > > > crashes next time I boot. NDD reports invalid partition table.
> > > > Windows works fine. Try to boot Linux. Nothing doing -- can't
> find
> > > > root partition. fdisk won't correct it, and I cannot easily back
> up my
> > > > hard drive, because the only writable removable media I have are
> 3.5"
> > > > floppy disks. Is there any help to be found in
> comp.os.linux.misc?
> > > >
> > > > ------------> Drake Wilson
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > > > Before you buy.
> > >
> > > And there was really no reason for that crash (why would an office
> suite be
> > > interested in the Master Boot Record?) except that Bill wants to
> play "Dr
> > > Dos" games with Linux.
> > > If you have a bootable Linux floppy (there should have been one in
> the
> > > Caldera box) then you can boot it and access your system that way.
> Then
> > > rerun LILO.
> >
> > unless the partition table is really messed up.
> > If you made a hardcopy of the partition-table, you can restore with
> > fdisk. If not
> > try to get svend-olaf mikkelsen's findpart.exe and try to get help
> from
> > him.
> >
> > Eric
> >
>
> Well, my partitions are overlapping, which is why I can't correct it
> normally.
>
> I got findpart -- how do I interpret and use the output? (shown below)
>
> findpart all +fat > parts.txt
>
> ~~~
>
> Findpart, version 3.91.
> Copyright Svend Olaf Mikkelsen, 2000.
>
> Searches for partitions type 01, 04, 06, 07, 0B, 0C, 0E, 82, 83,
> plus Fdisk F6 and Lilo sectors. Information based on bootsectors
> is marked B. If the disk is larger than supported by BIOS, the
> supported part of the disk is examined. Disks are numbered from 1.
>
> OS: DOS 7.10 WINDOWS 4.10
>
> Disk: 1 Cylinders: 2482 Heads: 255 Sectors: 63 MB: 19469
>
> -PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
> 0 - 0B 63 9205182 4494 0 1 1 572 254 63 B OK
> 0 - 0C 63 19792017 9664 0 1 1 1231 254 63 BU OK
> 0 - 83 9205245 11277630 5506 573 0 1 1274 254 63 B0 OK
> 1275 1 0B 63 48132 23 1275# 1 1 1277*254 63 NB OK
> 1275 2 05 48195 19342260 9444 1278# 0 1 2481*254 63 1275 OK
> 1275 - 0B 63 19390392 9467 1275 1 1 2481 254 63 B OK
> 0 - 0B 20482938 19390392 9467 1275 1 1 2481 254 63 BU OK
>
> -----FAT CHS -Size Cl --Root -Good -Rep. Maybe --Bad YYMMDD DataMB
> 0 1 33 19964 4 2 19964 0 0 0 990610 3684
> 1275 1 33 18899 4 2 18899 0 0 0 991215 5
>
> Partitions according to partition tables on first harddisk:
>
> -PCyl N ID -----Rel -----Num ---MB -Start CHS- --End CHS-- BS CHS
> 0 1*0C 63 20482812 10001 0 1 1 1274*254 63 NB OK
> 0 2 05 20482875 19390455 9467 1275# 0 1 2481*254 63 OK
>
> 1275 1 0B 63 48132 23 1275# 1 1 1277*254 63 NB OK
> 1275 2 05 48195 19342260 9444 1278# 0 1 2481*254 63 OK
> No signature CHS: 1278 0 1
>
> ~~~
>
> -------------> Drake Wilson
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.
Make sure to get svend-olafs attention.
I cannot interpret this stuff, so you must get help from him.
Either mail him directly, or create a new thread, with the findpart/or
svend-olafs name in the header. He's a frequent reader of this NG (or at
least he was)
Eric
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From: root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: How to Auto Insert USB module?
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:37:11 +0800
Dear sir
I am using a Creative Web3 Cam and have installed a usb driver ov511.o.
However, I need to use the command "insmod ov511.o" to activate it. I
have tried to use xconfig to set "y" instead of "m" and then build
kernel again but cannot work :-(. Is there any place in Linux can
automatically run some commands during startup (such as AUTOEXEC.BAT in
DOS) ?
Please give me some advices on this case.
Thanks a lot
Alan Po
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