Linux-Misc Digest #213, Volume #26 Thu, 2 Nov 00 17:13:04 EST
Contents:
Simple .java file won't compile - Permission to write .class file denied
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Gnome workspace and starting up programs (Jedrzej Miadowicz)
Re: Yamaha CRW8824 and Tekram 390F ("Aris Basic")
localtime & zoneinfo ("Micer")
Re: Simple .java file won't compile - Permission to write .class file denied (Leejay
Wu)
What info the kernel image has about my system. (mike)
Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
two peices of legislation i would like to see (guy-jin)
Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... - Amiga! (guy-jin)
Re: Linux support for PDAs/organizers other than Palm Pilot? (Mac Cody)
sound issue (Keith Smith)
samba and etc/printcap? (Brad Friedman)
Re: lilo configuration for SCSI hard drives? (Ilya)
Re: Linux support for PDAs/organizers other than Palm Pilot? ("Barry Smith")
Re: sound issue (Keith Smith)
Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see (Zero Piraeus)
Re: clustering suns? ("Steve Wolfe")
Sound modules get loaded, but no sound card in the system (mike)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Simple .java file won't compile - Permission to write .class file denied
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 19:56:56 GMT
I just installed jdk1.3 on my linux system, and yet when i run javac on
a basic .java file, i get the following error message:
Example.java:3: error while writing Example: Example.class {Permission
denied}
class Example {
^
1 error
Is it possible that the jdk doesn't have the right permissions to be
able to write files? I installed it using YAST, so the permissions
were all set for me.
Example.java is so simple and compiles fine on my other computer
(Windows):
class example {
public static void main(String args[]) {
System.out.println("This is a simple Java program.");
}
}
Any ideas?
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From: Jedrzej Miadowicz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Gnome workspace and starting up programs
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 08:26:08 -0600
I wonder if anybody knows how to assign programs to specific desktops at
startup. Suppose I want all the internet-related programs to start up
in 2nd workspace, while a terminal and something else to start in the
1st workspace. Is there any way to do this other than after the
start-up phase manually moving all the windows?
Thanks,
Andy
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From: "Aris Basic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Yamaha CRW8824 and Tekram 390F
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:30:57 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Aris Basic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Hi
> > i have Tekram 390F controler adn it was working with very old CDROM
> > and with external ORB Drive so i suppose its ok
> > but i cannt bring it to work properly with Yamah8824 Drive i allways get
> > some scsi errors
> > (linux 2.2.16 sym875 kernal driver)
> > on cdrecord -scanbus i usaly get some kernel SCSI errors and cdrecord
tells
> > something like
> > Drive returned more data ten it should
> > drive gets recognized on booting (i triedn turning on 512 block feature
but
> > that made more troubles)
> > can anyone have an idea what could be wrong ?
> > (Firmware upadate of controler or drive or both) ?
> > or anything else
> >
> > thx
> > Aris
>
> The cables maybe? Do you use the same cables in all configurations?
>
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its a brand new cable, but i will try that option too
i will also try to upgrade BIOS of Controler if its not uptodate
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From: "Micer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: localtime & zoneinfo
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 12:33:15 -0800
I am just learning about localtime and how it links to a time zone to keep
download files at the correct date/time stamp. But an associate tells me
that Linux can't run properly without a localtime, ie: it will put in the
wrong time for everything.
Is this true? The Linux book I have says that if you are downloading files
from elsewhere in the world then you don't even need to bother with
localtime.
Micer
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From: Leejay Wu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Simple .java file won't compile - Permission to write .class file denied
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:28:42 -0500
Excerpts from netnews.comp.os.linux.misc: 2-Nov-100 Simple .java file
won't com.. by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I just installed jdk1.3 on my linux system, and yet when i run
> javac on a basic .java file, i get the following error message:
>
> Example.java:3: error while writing Example: Example.class {Permission
> denied}
> class Example {
> ^
> 1 error
>
> Is it possible that the jdk doesn't have the right permissions
> to be able to write files? I installed it using YAST, so the
> permissions were all set for me.
[snip]
Huh? Barring strange hacks involving SUID/SGID java binaries, the
JDK itself has nothing to do with permissions. It's *your*
account whose permissions are checked. Which directory were you
in at the time, did you have write permissions on the directory
(and if there is an existing Example.class file there, write
permissions on that), and would you have overflowed either the
partition [*] or your quota, if any?
[* By default, on an ext2 partition 5% is reserved for root.
So 95% full disk blocks, or alternately all inodes in use --
either would suffice. ]
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: What info the kernel image has about my system.
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:37:59 GMT
Hi,
I understand that the image root device, swap device, RAM disk
size, and video modes are stored in certain standardized locations
in the Linux kernel image. I was wondering if there is any
other information that is "remembered" by the kernel image
file on the hard drive relating to ones current operating system
parameters, for example nework parameters like routing
or network device configuration or anything else.
Thanks
Mike
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: LinkSys betrayed us! Poor prospects for Linux.
Date: 2 Nov 2000 13:46:07 -0700
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In article <9LJL5.99$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Eric Bourland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Clifton,
>
>Respectfully, I don't agree with you. I have been trying for weeks to
>install a Netgear FA-311 card in Linux.
Which other NIC's have you installed successfully?
How well do you understand the boot process and what
the module loader needs to do? Do you have a handle
on the relationship of the kernel to the card?
>I have read all kinds of HOW-TOs,
>been to scyld.com, and researched the matter at various web sites ... but I
>am unable to understand the instructions offered in any of these places.
Unable to understand any of the instructions?
>is right -- in many places, Linux instructions are incomprehensible.
You can pay tech writers and get worse documentation.
There's a lot of documentation on the network system, sure,
and very little of it is specific to your situation (written
before your card was made), and some of it assumes you have
read every book by W.R. Stevens.
But this can't be such a hard problem; the tulip cards work
on linux all the way to 2.2.17. You didn't post your kernel
.config, your dmesg where it fails to detect the card, or
anything specific about your hardware. I assume you've
already installed windows2000 as you were threatening to do,
and may have discovered some installation problems and compatability
issues, there as well.
Perhaps at some point you may realize that the people who hang out
on usenet and willing to help with a linux installation problem,
can usually help with windows problems too. If you'd given enough
info for your setup, your network problem might be solved right now.
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From: guy-jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: two peices of legislation i would like to see
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:43:12 GMT
well, its election time, and i was thinking about
what kind of legislation i would like to see next
session.
i realise these wont come to be anytime soon,
but just so its on the record:
'the reform in software purchasing act'
"
the congress of the united states, or any legislature
among the several states, shall not pass legislation
that will purchase, or otherwise subsidize, software
which is not free. for the purpouses of this act,
'software which is not free' shall be defined as
software copyrighted, trademarked, patented,
proprietized, or otherwise owned, by one or many
private companies or persons. systems already in use
shall not be affected, but nonfree software
replacements shall not be aquired or permitted.
"
summary: no government subsidization of M$,
sun, et al. computers in existence keep their
software, but upgrades to/of nonfree software
arent allowed. this would include schools
and the millitary.
'the public software act'
"
a sales tax of 1% shall be imposed on all software sold
in the united states, wether that software is copyrighted
by a private person or company, or 'free' software packaged
in a 'distribution' under the influence of one of many free
software licenses. monies gathered from this act shall be
placed in an account which shall be called 'the corporation
for public software' (hereafter reffered to as 'CPS'). this
money shall be used to set up a web site, whose name shall be
determined by administrators of the CPS,[download.gov?] that
will disseminate any and all free software known to be
availiable. the author(s) of the free software downloaded
thereat shall receive a percentage of the funds under the
administration of the CPS, the amount of which shall be
determined by the administrators of the CPS. the CPS shall
also have the power to refuse software given it, if it
is beleived to be harmful to a users computer hardware or
data. examples of rejectable software would include: software
in the presence, or 'infected' with, 'viruses', 'trojan horse
(s)', 'logic bombs', and any other software deemed to be
damaging to the user's computer or the data contained therein.
the CPS shall not reject software on the basis of its percived
controversality. the CPS shall also engage in soliciting
donations from users of software downloaded from the web site(s)
of the CPS, and shall use those funds identically to, and
together with, those funds gained from taxation. the CPS shall
not subsidize free software downloaded from places other than
the CPS, and shall not subsidize noncitizens of the united states.
"
summary: 1% sales tax [more? less?] on
sold software. money goes to the corporation
for public software, (cps) to create a
website for free/open software, and to
pay stipends to authors of free/open software
downloaded from there. the stipend depends
on how many copies are downloaded from
the CPS, with the amount of payment left
to the CPS. the cps can reject viral,
trojaned, or bombed programs, but not
controverssial or unpopular software.
it cant base payments on previous downloads.
it isnt allowed to pay forigners.
(attract programmers to the US)
your thoughts?
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From: guy-jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want to do weird SCSI sh*t... - Amiga!
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:48:37 GMT
In article <CMsL5.476$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Scott M. Navarre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Amiga is alive!
i think he meant his personal box.
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From: Mac Cody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux support for PDAs/organizers other than Palm Pilot?
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 16:09:08 -0600
"Marcus O.C. Metzler" wrote:
>
> Mac Cody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The subject line pretty much says it all. Is there support
> > on Linux for PDAs/organizers other than the 3Com Palm Pilot?
> > For example the Sharp Wizards (OZ-730PC), Royal DV3 DaVinci,
> > or Casio PV-400Plus. Any pointers would be appreciated
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mac Cody
> I don't know about the ones you mentioned, but the compaq ipaq is
> supported and some others that use ARM CPUs.
>
> Marcus
Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What I meant is Linux support
for upload/download to the above-mentioned PDAs/organizers.
Not Linux running in the devices themselves. I'd like to use
a PDA/organizer for text editing while commuting and
upload/download text to my Linux box. Hope that is clear
enough.
Thanks again,
Mac Cody
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From: Keith Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: sound issue
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 16:00:43 -0500
i just noticed that i no longer have sounds in gnome. i can play audio
cd's and us xmms for mp3's, but there are no system sounds anymore. i'm
not sure when it happened exaclty. i checked the sound configuration
and have checked both 'enable sound startup' and 'sounds for events'.
but, when i go to the 'event's tab and try to play a sound file...
nothing.
i even re-ran sndconfig and i can hear linus and the piano, but still no
sound in gnome. i created a sybolic link from /etc/sysconfig/sound ->
/etc/sysconfig/soundcard as suggested elsewhere, and still no luck.
i have system sounds in kde, just not in gnome.
any ideas?
tia,
keith
pii-400
128m
sb awe64
geforce2 gts
mandrake 7.1
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brad Friedman)
Subject: samba and etc/printcap?
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:06:43 GMT
I am currently using my roommate's printer via our local network. When I
want to print I use samba by typing the following at the prompt:
smbclient //hostname/printername -c 'print filename'
This works fine, but I'd like to set up my /etc/printcap so that I can
just use lpr. I tried entering the following line in printcap:
lp:lp=/dev/null:of="smbclient //hostname/printername 'print '":
but that doesn't work. What am I doing wrong?
Brad
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From: Ilya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: lilo configuration for SCSI hard drives?
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 20:58:03 GMT
Thanks for posting your /etc/lilo.conf file. What I still don't
understand is which entry refers to your Windows disk? I see
that /dev/sda is your primary Linux hard drive, but where is /dev/dsb,
which is for windows? Do I have to modify /boot/map file?
Thanks.
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ilya wrote:
>
> > I installed a second SCSI hard drive in my all SCSI machine.
>
> I have two SCSI hard drives. I also have a DDS-2 tape drive on a
separate
> SCSI. There is a floppy drive on ISA (I guess that is where it is),
and a
> CDROM drive on there too.
>
> > Where is a
> > good example of a /etc/lilo.conf file that allows for a 10 second
> > window to select the OS to boot?
>
> Here is my /etc/lilo.conf (I think it gives me only 5 seconds to
decide.
> Change timeout to 100 to get 10 seconds, I guess:
>
> valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ cat /etc/lilo.conf
> boot=/dev/sda
> map=/boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> linear
> timeout=50
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From: "Barry Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Linux support for PDAs/organizers other than Palm Pilot?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 15:20:34 -0600
Mac Cody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Marcus O.C. Metzler" wrote:
> >
> > Mac Cody <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > The subject line pretty much says it all. Is there support
> > > on Linux for PDAs/organizers other than the 3Com Palm Pilot?
> > > For example the Sharp Wizards (OZ-730PC), Royal DV3 DaVinci,
> > > or Casio PV-400Plus. Any pointers would be appreciated
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Mac Cody
> > I don't know about the ones you mentioned, but the compaq ipaq is
> > supported and some others that use ARM CPUs.
> >
> > Marcus
>
> Sorry I wasn't clear enough. What I meant is Linux support
> for upload/download to the above-mentioned PDAs/organizers.
> Not Linux running in the devices themselves. I'd like to use
> a PDA/organizer for text editing while commuting and
> upload/download text to my Linux box. Hope that is clear
> enough.
Have you checked out http://www.agendacomputing.com ?
They have a $149 Palm-like device called the Agenda (what a coincidence!)
that actually runs on Linux. But, the part you're more interested in is
that it has a standard serial port.
Only problem is they haven't shipped any units yet. They are threatening to
ship any minute . . .
-Barry
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From: Keith Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.setup,alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: sound issue
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 16:28:04 -0500
well, it looks like another five minutes or so of searching and i could
have avoided the previous post... oh, well. i saw some info
comp.os.linux.hardware that suggested turning of the pnp features of the
bios. so, i went in and set 'pnp os' to 'no' and voila, sound is back!
keith
Keith Smith wrote:
> i just noticed that i no longer have sounds in gnome. i can play audio
> cd's and us xmms for mp3's, but there are no system sounds anymore. i'm
> not sure when it happened exaclty. i checked the sound configuration
> and have checked both 'enable sound startup' and 'sounds for events'.
> but, when i go to the 'event's tab and try to play a sound file...
> nothing.
>
> i even re-ran sndconfig and i can hear linus and the piano, but still no
> sound in gnome. i created a sybolic link from /etc/sysconfig/sound ->
> /etc/sysconfig/soundcard as suggested elsewhere, and still no luck.
>
> i have system sounds in kde, just not in gnome.
>
> any ideas?
>
> tia,
>
> keith
>
> pii-400
> 128m
> sb awe64
> geforce2 gts
> mandrake 7.1
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From: Zero Piraeus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: two peices of legislation i would like to see
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:32:36 +0000
Hey:
> 'the reform in software purchasing act'
Nice.
> 'the public software act'
I'd alter this so it applied to hardware rather than software [the sale
of which is going to dry up, after all], and also set it up so that
manufacturers can offset donations to non-profit software development
against tax. It's a lot easier to sell a rebate than a tax, and
corporations would like it better if they got to support a project
relevant to their business, rather than "The Gummint".
Actually, didn't RMS come up with something very like this?
-[z].
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From: "Steve Wolfe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: clustering suns?
Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2000 14:35:36 -0700
> i have a silly question.
>
> i have 12 sun ipc's ( 25mhz cpu, 48mb ram, 500mb disk, single ethernet
> connection, headless ) and a ross sparcplug ( dual 100mhz, 256mb ram, 9gb
> disk ).
>
> i was reading up on linux clustering, and was thiking about taking the 12
> ipc's and attempting to cluster them, using the sparcplug as the primary
> interface machine... having only one ethernet port each, i can't cross
> connect like all the cool beowulf sites show...
Well, you can still use a switch. ; )
> is it still possible to do
> some experimentation and ( most importantly ) see some seriously cool
> performace boosts as 12 25mhz cpu's kick into a task? i know better than
> to expect too much, i'm just looking for a fun and interesting way to use
> these old boxes, even if just for a little while to check out this type
> architecture.
>
> am i even close?
Depending on the application you want to run, and how you do it, you can
expect anything from seeing the app run more slowly than on a single machine
to seeing a near-linear scalability. However, even with 12 of the CPU's,
you're still only talking about 300 MHz equivalent. It would probably cost
you more in electricity to run all of them (and the cooling) than to just
purchase a semi-modern machine. : )
Hmm... let's do some math. Assume each one actually consumes about 100
watts of power. 1300 watts * 24 hrs/day = 31.2 kilowatt-hours per day, or
$2 per day. In half of a year, that's $360, enough to buy a case,
motherboard, a 500 MHz processor, and some RAM. (Oh yeah, I forgot to
factor in the cost of cooling...)
steve
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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound modules get loaded, but no sound card in the system
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2000 21:53:21 GMT
Hi,
I moved a Redhat 6.1 drive to another computer. I deleted
the isapnp.conf file. I deleted the references to the sound card
in /etc/conf.modules There is no sound card on this computer,
yet the sound modules still get loaded. Also the kudzu screen
comes up each time I boot up.
Thanks
Mike
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