Linux-Misc Digest #318, Volume #26 Wed, 15 Nov 00 18:13:01 EST
Contents:
Problems with CDRW Creative 8433e (Dr Aldo Medina)
Re: Problems with CDRW Creative 8433e (Bob van der Poel)
Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years? (John Hasler)
Re: Loadlin compatible with WinME? (Phil)
Help... X Windows runs at a crawl.. Be my mentor,, Please (Jason B)
Time flies and it's not Fun. (Martin McCormick)
Re: xmms playing CDs? (Gero Marten)
Thursday 16 November 2000 UNIGROUP Meeting: Pat Villani on Compaq, Unix, and
GNU/Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Help... X Windows runs at a crawl.. Be my mentor,, Please (Stephen Hui)
Apache-forbidden access to html files ("K.Zielinski")
Bolo now available for Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: imap and ssh ("Jens")
Creating PDF (acrobat) files ? (Marc Frei)
Re: Multithreaded RPC Server Question (Arun Taylor)
mounting multi-session CDRom?? ("nf")
kppp asks for ROOT password
Re: Creating PDF (acrobat) files ? (Jan Schaumann)
Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Re: Creating PDF (acrobat) files ? (Robert Clayton)
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From: Dr Aldo Medina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with CDRW Creative 8433e
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 14:19:34 -0600
I'm using RH 6.2 with updates on a PII, using IDE Creative, recompiling
kernel to support ide-scsi.
I tried both Cdrecord -1.9 and 1.10 beta with similar results.
When I try to burn a CD sometimes I get invalid access errors, in any
moment of the recording (begin, end, middle). After I get an error like
this, a few times my IDE HDs/CDROM are inaccesible and once my CD needed
a cold reset to work again.
This happens about 66-75% of the times, even in dummy mode.
It never happens in windows, using Nero 4 or 5.0
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referencia en www.puntosclub.com | cuenta
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From: Bob van der Poel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems with CDRW Creative 8433e
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 13:43:34 -0700
Dr Aldo Medina wrote:
>
> I'm using RH 6.2 with updates on a PII, using IDE Creative, recompiling
> kernel to support ide-scsi.
>
> I tried both Cdrecord -1.9 and 1.10 beta with similar results.
>
> When I try to burn a CD sometimes I get invalid access errors, in any
> moment of the recording (begin, end, middle). After I get an error like
> this, a few times my IDE HDs/CDROM are inaccesible and once my CD needed
> a cold reset to work again.
>
> This happens about 66-75% of the times, even in dummy mode.
>
> It never happens in windows, using Nero 4 or 5.0
>
> --
> Linux User #98419 -o) | Similitudes entre mujeres y
> http://counter.li.org /\ | computadoras: 18. Las dos tienen
> ICQ 94335020 _\_v | sus m�todos para no calentarse 19.
> Si quieres ayudarme, ponme de | No son capaces de pensar por su
> referencia en www.puntosclub.com | cuenta
I found that I had the same problems if I and the automount dameon
running. Since canning this, all works okay. I think that the dameon
might be trying to access the cd during the burn...but that's a
uneducated guess. So, if you have 'automount' running, kill it and try
again. Worth a try...
--
Bob van der Poel ** Wynndel, British Columbia, CANADA **
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WWW: http://users.uniserve.com/~bvdpoel
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 19:10:27 GMT
James Hutchins writes:
> Because I then have to graphically display the results in various charts,
> plots, etc.
The display is the display and the analysis is the analysis. Use the best
tool for each. The best tool for the analysis is the one that meets your
need for performance. The best tool for the display is one that works well
with whatever you choose for the analysis.
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Phil)
Subject: Re: Loadlin compatible with WinME?
Date: 15 Nov 2000 21:58:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eric -[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]- spewed forth the
following rubbish:
>Sorry to crosspost, but I'm just itchin to dual boot...
>
>Can I use Loadlin in WinME to boot my linux partition (i.e. boot to WinME,
>then run loadlin via a bat file to boot linux) The how-to's say I
>should edit the properties of the bat file to require switching to MSDOS
>mode, but that option no longer exists under WinME. I'd just try it, but I
>wonder if there is any harm to be done here...
No it's not
Phil.
--
54RV is 3l337
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From: Jason B <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Help... X Windows runs at a crawl.. Be my mentor,, Please
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:00:31 GMT
Hello all, please help .
I've had Linux installed on my system for a year and some now.
Here's whats' up: X windows has never really worked good . It was
slow, like I was running Windows '95 on a 386 or something (I have a
Pentium ii 300Mhz /98 Megs ram). Recently, I edited my XF86Config file
(I'm scared to touch this thing) I put in some new modelines for my
monitor, calculated from a posting describing how to do it. But, my
system seems to just skip over them or something as if they weren't
even there. I can't change the resolution by using 'ctrl - alt - +/-
keys' either.
So, I'm wondering, is there a way of seeing exactly what video
mode that X Windows is running in? Like,some log file or something? I
know how to switch between users or whatever by pressing 'ctrl - alt -
f1, f2, f7 '.
Also, I installed a new 'microcrap wheelmouse' on my box lately.
I found out how to set it up using 'mouseconfig'. It works on the
console, but not in 'X'. It jumps around the screen and acts like it
was on coke or something. DOes anybody know what's up with this ? I
don't care about if the wheel works, I just want to get my fucking
mouse working so I don't have to quit X windows every time.
If anyone knows any of this, and wants to help, I'll
appreciate it..
Jason
--
http://members.home.net/jbean3
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Subject: Time flies and it's not Fun.
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin McCormick)
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 21:04:29 GMT
What kind of kernel configuration error might cause the system
time and date to serge forward about 16 hours or so around ten minutes
after booting the new kernel?
The system has worked for months on an older kernel that
someone else who is no longer around here configured. As I said in an
earlier message, I am simply building a new kernel to add sound
support.
Well, I built one without the sound and it still has the
glitch. When it is in sea sure mode, the system seems to hang for a
fraction of a second and then it resumes working, only with the
corrupted time count.
I did check with Dell to see what kind of PCI bus controller
is used and they indicated that it is a 440FXPCI. Those letters do
not appear to exist in that combination anywhere in the kernel
documentation which means that there is probably some generic choice I
should make that is not intuitive.
I have noticed that the sound drivers also do not appear to be
working, but I don't know if that is related to the same problem.
It's all academic until the system is stable.
I can communicate on the network and everything looks fine
until the system glitches and then the date shoots ahead.
It also does not corrupt the CMOS as the date is correct after
a reboot.
What should I be looking at since the system seems to be close
to working? As luck has it, nothing complains. It's just obvious
that the system is unstable.
I have had the same results on a 2.2.17 kernel and a 2.2.9
which is what I am working with now.
Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK
OSU Center for Computing and Information Services Data Communications Group
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From: Gero Marten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: xmms playing CDs?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 20:28:29 +0100
> You can't... Nor, with xmms, do you have to. Just put the disc in, select
> Play File and change to whatever directory that CD drive is usually mounted
> on. XMMS handles the rest.
Nothing shows up in my /cdrom directory. Neither does in /mnt/cd. The
CD Audio Player plugin is loaded and configured.
--
Gero H. Marten
"Computers are like air conditioners: They stop working properly if
you open
windows."
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Thursday 16 November 2000 UNIGROUP Meeting: Pat Villani on Compaq, Unix, and
GNU/Linux
Date: 15 Nov 2000 16:10:54 -0500
Pat Villani, head of the FreeDOS Project, will speak Thursday 16 November 2000
at the UNIGROUP meeting.
http://www.freedos.org
This meeting is open to all, the food is excellent and there's a lot of it.
There is a charge to attend.
Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Corresponding Secretary LXNY
LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization.
http://www.lxny.org
===========================================
UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK NOVEMBER 2000 REMINDER
===========================================
-----------------------------------------------------
UNIGROUP'S NOVEMBER 2000 GENERAL MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT
-----------------------------------------------------
When: Thursday, November 16, 2000
Where: The Chase Manhattan Bank
55 Water Street (enter at Old Slip)
South Tower
13th Floor, Conference Room C
Time: 6:15 PM - 6:30 PM Registration
6:30 PM - 6:40 PM Ask the Wizard,
Questions, Answers and Current Events
6:40 PM - 6:50 PM Unigroup Business
6:50 PM - 9:30 PM Main Presentation
----------------------------------
Topic: Linux Overview: Today and Tomorrow
----------------------------------
Speaker: Pat Villani,
Compaq Unix Software Engineer
Description of Talk:
====================
Pat's talk will focus on current capabilities of Linux, customer deployments
today, and the expectations for Linux, especially relative to the UNIX
platform. Pat will compare Linux and UNIX functionality on several
dimensions, including high availability, reliability, and system management,
and the enhancements expected in the upcoming release of Linux kernel 2.4.
Pat will also outline activities at Compaq directed at Linux and Tru64 UNIX
commonality and interoperability. The talk will include short summary of the
Linux marketplace, and efforts across Compaq in support of Linux
development, including the recent port of Linux to the iPAQ hand-held and
the deployment of the world's most powerful Linux clusters, built with 1600
AlphaServers.
Our speaker will be supported by members of the Sales and Technical staff
from the Compaq NYC Office.
Giveaways at the talk:
- Linux license plates and mouse pads
- Linux CDs (SuSE 7.0 Evaluation CDs)
- Alpha Linux power tools
- Jumpstart CD for Alpha Linux (an installation utility)
Compaq will be sponsoring the food service at this meeting!
==============================================================================
Complimentary Refreshments will be served. This now includes salads
and sandwiches (eg. turkey, roast beef, chicken, tuna)!
==============================================================================
Fee Schedule:
Yearly Membership (includes all meetings): $ 50.00
* Non-Member Single Meeting: $ 20.00
Student Yearly Membership: $ 20.00
Non-Member Student Single Meeting (with ID): $ 5.00
Cash, Check, American Express.
* Employees of Chase (with ID) can attend general meetings at no charge.
==============================================================================
I hope to see you all at our next meeting!
-Rob Weiner
Unigroup Executive Director
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.unigroup.org
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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help... X Windows runs at a crawl.. Be my mentor,, Please
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 15:15:13 -0600
Try using Xconfigurator (on RedHat systems). Or try XF86Setup (you may
have to install it).
These tools will help you find the right XF86Config file for your
hardware and will (attempt to) install the correct X server for your
video adapter. After you have entered all your information, the tools
will test the settings you selected, and if all goes well, they will
even write the XF86Config file for you.
I don't ever touch my XF86Config file either; I use the above tools to
do it for me. Works 99.5% of the time for me (there's that other 0.5%
that's due to either Fate or the Devil, depending on how you look at
it).
Hope this helps.
Stephen.
Jason B wrote:
>
> Hello all, please help .
> I've had Linux installed on my system for a year and some now.
> Here's whats' up: X windows has never really worked good . It was
> slow, like I was running Windows '95 on a 386 or something (I have a
> Pentium ii 300Mhz /98 Megs ram). Recently, I edited my XF86Config file
> (I'm scared to touch this thing) I put in some new modelines for my
> monitor, calculated from a posting describing how to do it. But, my
> system seems to just skip over them or something as if they weren't
> even there. I can't change the resolution by using 'ctrl - alt - +/-
> keys' either.
> So, I'm wondering, is there a way of seeing exactly what video
> mode that X Windows is running in? Like,some log file or something? I
> know how to switch between users or whatever by pressing 'ctrl - alt -
> f1, f2, f7 '.
> Also, I installed a new 'microcrap wheelmouse' on my box lately.
> I found out how to set it up using 'mouseconfig'. It works on the
> console, but not in 'X'. It jumps around the screen and acts like it
> was on coke or something. DOes anybody know what's up with this ? I
> don't care about if the wheel works, I just want to get my fucking
> mouse working so I don't have to quit X windows every time.
>
> If anyone knows any of this, and wants to help, I'll
> appreciate it..
>
> Jason
>
> --
> http://members.home.net/jbean3
--
Stephen Hui, ARL:UT, Austin, Texas
Computer Terms: Programmer - A red-eyed, mumbling mammal
capable of conversing with inanimate objects.
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From: "K.Zielinski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Apache-forbidden access to html files
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:27:28 +0100
I've just installed linux RedHat 6.2 with apache,postgres and php.
When i want to try my www server i can see in my browser a webpage saying
"403 Forbidden". I have checked the rights to apache home directory and
index.html file and they are 644. So it schould work, why it doesn't ?
A month ago i installed the same distribution of linux (except postgres and
php) and apache was working correctly (i could access index.html in my
browser after installation).
Could you tell me what i could do about it ?
Please email me.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bolo now available for Linux
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:29:42 -0600
For those of you that remember Bolo for the Mac well it's now available
for Linux. Bolo is a multi-player reall-time tank battle
action/strategy game. It's not a flashy game but it's one of the most
addictive games I've ever played. Check out http://www.winbolo.com for
more info.
Cheers,
Chris
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From: "Jens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: imap and ssh
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 16:58:44 +0500
In article <8uub98$rpu$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm trying to use a different mail program than netscape. I would like
> to use a terminal based program like Pine (or another one if its easier
> to set up). My problem is that my work area uses imap with the secure
> shell. All the docs I read on setting up Pine or the Imap Server don't
> talk about the SSH part. Netscape takes care of it with a SSH button in
> the prefs. When I talk to the computer center at work they say "use
> Netscape we don't support programs like Pine". Can anyone point me in
> the right direction? Thanks, Krister
What you probably mean is IMAP over SSL (not SSH). You might want to have
a look at mutt (http://www.mutt.org), which is a very powerful and highly
configurable mail client. It supports IMAP over SSL, see the Mutt manual,
sec. 4.11, for that. Other features are POP3 support, PGP/GnuPG support
and can be configured for almost everything.
Jens
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From: Marc Frei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Creating PDF (acrobat) files ?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:35:58 +0100
Hello,
Does anyone has a trick to create PDF file with using Tex or the
PostScript format ? From a .doc (staroffice) would be really cool !
I have to create many PDF files... I need to reboot under windoze...
bouhouhou....
Thanks in advance.
--
/ / (_)____ __ ____ __
Marc Frei / /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / Lutry/Switzerland
/____/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\
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From: Arun Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Multithreaded RPC Server Question
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:00:58 GMT
In article <8usqnn$58e$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Thanks for your help. In text below:
>
> In article <8usafp$nb5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Arun Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <8u821c$li8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > Is there a way to write a multithreaded server to
> > > service SUN RPCs? I need to write a service that
> > > would handle short requests from a few hundreed
> > > clients on an MP box and do that as efficiently as
> > > possible, and hopefully scale. I am sure I was
> > > not looking hard enough, but I had trouble finding
> > > a way of doing that. I could only find iterative
> > > examples. Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> >
> > There is a pre-compiled multi-threading example (tutorial18) that
you
> > can download from
> >
> > ftp://ftp.accord.com/dist
> >
> > for Linux(x86) and Solaris(Sparc + x86). The example can be re-
> compiled
> > with a download from
> >
> > http://www.accord.com/products/doc/IFCC.html
> >
> > In the above example, a service creates a worker thread everytime a
> > request comes in. Eventually, when a worker thread finishes work, a
> > response is returned to the client and the thread exits.
>
> I can overwrite (hack) the stub-generated server code to fork
processes
> or create threads for handling each call, but this introduces huge
> overhead since requests are small. Thread pool grows and machine
> grinds to a halt. It would be nicer to have a thread pool where
> threads would not exit after finishing with a call if there were more
> calls to be handled.
>
> > Multi-theading is very useful when you have requests whose compute
> times
> > vary over a wide range, i.e. from a few milliseconds to tens of
> seconds
> > or more. Ideally, the requests that take a short amount of time
will
> > have high priority and have their responses sent out as soon as
> > possible. The requests that take more time would be threaded and
have
> > their responses sent when they are eventually completed.
> >
> > If the processing times of the requests are all approximately the
> same,
> > then I do not think multi-threading is going to make the service
> > response times any better. It will probably make it even slower,
> > because of the thread overhead that is involved. The only exception
> to
> > this would be if the kernel also supported multi-threading within a
> > process. It this is the case, then the worker thread should be
> created
> > with concurrency flag set. This would allow, e.g., a process with
two
> > threads to run on two processors.
>
> This is exactly what I am shooting at I have servers with 4+
processors
> and would like to use as much of the potential throughput as possible.
>
> > Before doing multi-threading, you may want to try and see if a
single
> > threaded version is acceptable. If not, then is it possible to have
> two
> > or more instances of the same service running? It is much easier to
> > scale as well as improve response times by adding more instances of
a
> > service, either on the same system, or on multiple systems.
> >
> > A good example that comes to mind is nfs. If one has many users
> > requesting service, one simply increases the number of nfs daemons.
> And,
> > when that reaches its limit, one buys another system, divides up the
> > filesystems and the cycle continues.
>
> As I mentioned, I can do load ballancing, etc. but the purpose of my
> current project is to find out the scalability of Sun RPC in the
> context of a single process on a multiprocessor system. If the
> dominant paradigm for achieving high scalability in such a situation
is
> through using multiple daemons, I suppose I have to reconsider the
> current test architecture. The only problem is that it could make
> comparisons with other PRC implementations pointless.
>
> Thanks again for your help.
>
> Greg
>
Hello Greg,
Now that I know a little bit more about what you are
trying to do, I can answer it better. IFCC is designed so
that applications built using it can scale with multiple
processors.
Once a request has been received by a server, the application
developer has several options in terms of how it is to be
handled. It is really up to the application developer to
decide what makes a best solution given the amount of memory,
number of processors, number of network cards, rate at which
requests are coming in, etc., and how to scale.
When a request arrives at a server, a response can be synchronous
or asynchronous. A client can indicate as part of a request
whether it is going to wait for a response, or pick it up later.
Facility for doing this is in place for IFCC generated code.
How a request gets processed by a server is totally up to the
developer. As you found out, if a thread is created every time
a request comes in, one can easily tie up the machine (this is
probably what happens with vanilla RPCGEN generated code). With
IFCC generated code, the developer has choices about how to
implement the best solution. The main options are
1) synchronous call.
Simple and a good place to start. No threads, semaphores,
mutexes, etc.
2) create a thread for every request that comes in.
Little bit more work. System can get overwhelmed with too
many threads.
3) have a maximum number of threads that is a some how related
to the number of processors, memory, network cards, etc.,
in the system. The threads would be spread over one, or more,
pool of threads, and they would probably be all created at start
up time. A thread would not be created or destroyed every
time a request came in. When a request comes in, it would be
put into one of the work queues. Each thread pool would work on
a work queue. The threads in a pool would take turns to do the
work. Where there is no work, they wait.
If you have a multi-processor system, then 3) would be high on the
list.
The example that I had mentioned previously, tutorial18, shows 1)
and 2). It can be turned into 3) with additional application code.
One day we hope to provide a generic way of doing 3) so that it is
easier to leverage multi-processor systems. Ideally, implementation
of 3) should be such that it could be configured and re-configured
dynamically.
I believe Linux does support kernel threading for user threads
within a process. Given IFCC generated code, what you want to do
can be done. The optimal solution lies in being able to control
how many threads are productively running before performance
starts getting adversely affected.
Hope this helps.
Arun Taylor
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: "nf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.linux.os,linux.redhat,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: mounting multi-session CDRom??
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:24:01 GMT
I have created a CDROM in two sessions, without making any kind of links
from one session to the other.
When I mount the cdrom in Redhat Linux 7 (default kernel), I can only see
the files from the first session.
How do I read the info from the second session?
Is there something I add to the MOUNT command?
please help ! Linux Newbie!
Thx
i()nate
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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kppp asks for ROOT password
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:30:11 -0000
I am running RedHat 7 with the KDE 1.x desktop and have kppp configured to
run my ISP connection. As root, I can start kppp without a problem.
However, when a non-root user starts kppp, a dialog box pops up requesting
the root password to continue. Buried deep in the on-line documents, I
came across a discussion on this which recommends setting the SUID for
kppp and changing the group ownership and creating a group for PPP users
and making sure all of the file permissions are set correctly. I did all
of this, and still kppp asks for the root password for non-root users.
This seems like a silly problem, since the Gnome ppp launcher does not
seem to have this problem.
Regards
Clark
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jan Schaumann)
Subject: Re: Creating PDF (acrobat) files ?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:28:43 GMT
Marc Frei wrote:
>Hello,
>
>Does anyone has a trick to create PDF file with using Tex or the
>PostScript format ? From a .doc (staroffice) would be really cool !
If you have it as a doc, print it to a file, this will give you a ps. Then you
can use ps2pdf to turn it into a pdf.
If you have it in ps-format, just use ps2pdf.
if you have it in tex-format, do teh following:
latex foo.tex
dvips foo.dvi
ps2pdf foo.ps
(there might be shorter way for the tex-thing).
-Jan
--
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>
A computer without Windows is like a chocolate cake without mustard.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy,comp.os.linux.x,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Re: True GTK+ will eliminate Qt in next few years?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 22:37:18 -0000
On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 12:49:47 -0500, James Hutchins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <James Hutchins> wrote:
>> >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> >> In comp.os.linux.advocacy Craig Kelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > I hope that the two projects merge in the future in a language less
>> >> > sucky than either C or C++.
>> >>
>> >> Agreed. They should write it in Java.
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> >Java? Please, NO! I have a NEED for SPEED!! I don't think even hotspot can
>> >make up for the performance hit I'd take with java. When doing complex
>> >analyses on up to 10 gigs of byte-sized time series data, even a 15% speed
>> >hit is significant. So why accept it when you can just use C++?
>>
>> For that matter, why are you using GUI toolkits to do
>> complex analyses at all?
>
>
>
>Good point. Because I then have to graphically display the results in
>various charts, plots, etc. So I looked into graphics, which led to
>windowing environments, thus to X, Qt, GTK+, and other confusions...
Displaying graphics doesn't require a GUI.
[deletia]
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From: Robert Clayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Creating PDF (acrobat) files ?
Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:40:26 -0500
Try txt2pdf. I think they want money for it, though :(
(It's a perl script - perhaps you could "customize" it...)
Robert
Marc Frei wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> Does anyone has a trick to create PDF file with using Tex or the
> PostScript format ? From a .doc (staroffice) would be really cool !
>
> I have to create many PDF files... I need to reboot under windoze...
> bouhouhou....
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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