Linux-Misc Digest #380, Volume #26               Fri, 24 Nov 00 14:13:01 EST

Contents:
  Re: ncpfs is obsolete (w.r.t. Novell 5).  Is there anything to replace  (Francois 
Labreque)
  Packet sniffer? (John English)
  Re: stripping (Sven Mascheck)
  Need a user password ("Bradley J. Bartram")
  Re: Sendmail 8.8.7 and ip_allow? ("Blair M. Stilwell")
  Job Website (Rodolphe Quiedeville)
  Re: Need a user password (Andreas Schweitzer)
  Re: Need a user password ("Jan Schaumann")
  Re: Need a user password
  No space left on device with /var filesystem (Fung Wai Keung)
  Re: Software RAID ("Peter T. Breuer")
  Re: Packet sniffer? ("David ..")
  Re: usb printer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: New To Linux - Distributions (Robert)
  divx ("SeB")
  Sound Program Recommendations (mike)
  D-Link Networkcard DEF 530TX ("Viktor Polansky")
  Program to notify upon job completion (mike)
  Re: Need help:Speak Freely-7.1 (Edu)
  RPM's (Again!) ("Tim Jarrett")
  Re: shutdown vs halt (Bill Unruh)
  Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH (Bill Unruh)
  Re: No space left on device with /var filesystem (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Kernel Too Old error ("Sebastian Palm")
  USB mouse trouble with new kernel ("Sebastian Palm")

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From: Francois Labreque <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: ncpfs is obsolete (w.r.t. Novell 5).  Is there anything to replace 
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:26:21 -0500



Kenny McCormack wrote:
> 
> ncpfs no longer works with current Novell, b/c Novell is now TCP/IP based.
> I.e., ncpfs works by looking for IPX traffic, and current Novell systems
> don't use IPX.

That should be rephrased.  "Current Novell systems don't NECESSARILY use
IPX".  Many still do due to client migration issues.

> 
> Is there anything to replace it - I.e., anything to access Novell drives
> when Novell is running over TCP/IP?

There's a Linux client available on the Novell site.  I haven't tried it
but you might want to take a looksie.

http://www.novell.com/download/index.html

-- 
Francois Labreque | It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it
    flabreque     | is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed,
        @         | the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a 
   videotron.ca   | warning, it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in
                  | motion.
                               - Stolen from Badger's .sig file

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From: John English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Packet sniffer?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:49:52 +0000

Can anyone recommend a utility to let me snoop network packets under
Linux? I'm trying to solve a problem on my home network (machine A
can ping machine B but B can't ping A). Having replaced cables and
network cards, I'm completely baffled and I need something low-level
to find out what's actually going across the network...
 
=================================================================
 John English              | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Senior Lecturer           | http://www.it.bton.ac.uk/staff/je
 Dept. of Computing        | ** NON-PROFIT CD FOR CS STUDENTS **
 University of Brighton    |    -- see http://burks.bton.ac.uk
=================================================================

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From: Sven Mascheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: stripping
Date: 24 Nov 2000 16:15:49 +0100

Dirk Groeneveld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 > I've heard great things about "stripping" executables. It really seems 
 > to make a difference in file size and I don't need debugging info anyway.
 > My question is, does it harm to let find find all the executables on my 
 > system and have them stripped?

My 2�:  Be more than careful when searching for executables automatically:
Don't strip any object files.  Be very careful with libraries.
(Things that _might_ have an x-bit).
Apart from that i've never heard/experienced any problems.
I strip all my stuff if not explicitly compiled for debugging.

I wonder what sense the default "debug" info in executables
makes, as it doesn't suffice for debuggin?

Sven

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From: "Bradley J. Bartram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Need a user password
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:27:41 GMT

Hello everybody;

I'm working on one of my servers and I have a user account which I need to
access but have forgotten its password.  I'm the root user so how can I find
this users password?

--
Bradley J. Bartram
Database Administrator
DigiVision Satellite Services, Inc.
716-319-7107
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Blair M. Stilwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sendmail 8.8.7 and ip_allow?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:32:03 -0600

Just to be sure- have you added the host to ip_allow (or
/etc/mail/access) like this:

192.1.2.1        RELAY

I'm can't remember if 8.8.x requires that format (host OKAY|RELAY|DENY),
but I'm pretty sure it accepts it.  You can also try adding all the
entries from ip_allow and ip_deny to /etc/mail/access.

Also, check your sendmail startup script.  It may not be hashing the
access databases automatically.  Check the date on /etc/mail/access.db
and /etc/mail/access or ip_allow.db and ip_allow .  To create the
ip_allow.db or access.db you need to do this:

makemap hash /etc/mail/access.db </etc/mail/access

Sendmail doesn't read the flat ASCII files, since that would be too
slow.  Instead it scans the binary hash tables at each request (so you
don't have to restart sendmail as you add changes, if I recall
correctly).

Blair

Tony Lawrence wrote:

> The Linux sendmail refuses to relay for that server.  I tried
> adding it as a specific host- 192.1.2.1 -, I tried it both
> through Linux conf and by manual editing, and I even manually
> restarted sendmail but it kicks back anything it gets from that
> old server.
>
> Something I'm missing?
>
>
> --
> Tony Lawrence ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> SCO/Linux articles, help, book reviews, tests,
> job listings and more : http://www.pcunix.com


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From: Rodolphe Quiedeville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Job Website
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:35:47 GMT

Hi,

I manage a website specialized in job in free software and Linux in
France known as htt://www.lolix.org/
It's very successful here, but I opened a section dedicated to jobs in
United-States wich is really not successfull I'll appreciate any critics
and comments to improve it.

If you want to help me have a look at http://www.lolix.org/us/

Regards

-- 
Rodolphe QUIEDEVILLE
  Working in freedom : http://www.lolix.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Schweitzer)
Subject: Re: Need a user password
Date: 24 Nov 2000 15:38:18 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

In article <NNvT5.20310$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Bradley J. Bartram wrote:
>I'm working on one of my servers and I have a user account which I need to
>access but have forgotten its password.  I'm the root user so how can I find

If you are root, you don't need to know the password. Simply do
su - user_loginname

>this users password?

For something like that you would need a password cracker like
CRACK or John_the_ripper

Andreas

-- 
                       Andreas Schweitzer
             http://dilbert.physast.uga.edu/~andy/
        This post is brought to you by VIM, slrn and FreeBSD

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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Need a user password
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:48:56 -0500

* "Bradley J. Bartram" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello everybody;
> 
> I'm working on one of my servers and I have a user account which I need
> to access but have forgotten its password.  I'm the root user so how can
> I find this users password?

If you're root - give the user a new password that you can remember.
AFAIK, you can't get the current password for a user without
*significant* effort.

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

See you in hell, candy boys!!
                -- Homer Simpson

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: Need a user password
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:12:16 GMT

On Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:27:41 GMT, Bradley J. Bartram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hello everybody;
>
>I'm working on one of my servers and I have a user account which I need to
>access but have forgotten its password.  I'm the root user so how can I find
>this users password?

You can't.

Assign a new password.

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From: Fung Wai Keung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: No space left on device with /var filesystem
Date: 24 Nov 2000 16:07:06 GMT

Hi all,

I am running Linux Mandrake 7.1.  I sometimes encounter the "no space left
in device" error when I run some commands like

root@acaepc53:/home/users/wkfung>rpm --rebuilddb
error creating directory /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.11932: No space left on
device

or
[ I can't print anything]
root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>lpr ~/.cshrc
lpr: cannot create /var/spool/lpd/lp/tfA119acaepc53.acae.cuhk.edu.hk
root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>./lpd restart
Shutting down lpd:                                         [  OK  ]
Starting lpd:                                              [  OK  ]
touch: /var/lock/subsys/lpd: No space left on device
root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>

and so on.  All involve the /var filesystem, saying that it has no
availabe space.  However, I have more 160M available in /var, as reported
by df

root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>df
Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1             190M   68M  112M  38% /
/dev/hda8             2.4G  261M  2.0G  11% /apps
/dev/hda10             11G  1.0G  9.7G   9% /home
/dev/hda7             289M  5.6M  268M   2% /tmp
/dev/hda9             3.8G  2.1G  1.5G  58% /usr
/dev/hda6             289M  107M  167M  39% /var
/proc/bus/usb         289M  289M     0 100% /proc/bus/usb

What is the problem with my /var?  and how to solve the problem?

Thanks in advance. 

-- 

Regards,
Wai Keung, Fung

Department of Automation and Computer Aided Engineering,
The Chinese University of Hong Kong,
Shatin, N.T.,
Hong Kong

Tel: (852)26098056      Fax: (852)26036002
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: "Peter T. Breuer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.hardware,alt.linux
Subject: Re: Software RAID
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:20:14 +0100

In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> and I would never inflict Software RAID on another machine as long as I
> live.  Hardware RAID can hide a lot of things from the user, and be just
> about as 'fast' as an individual disk.  Software RAID is going to slow
> your disk writes, well REALLY BAD.  

Tut tut.  No, it doesn't slow it appreciably, provided the disk writes
are on two separate controllers (ide).  Yes, two commands will be
issued, instead of one, but the bandwidth taken by two disks going full
out is nothing like saturation.

> My advice would be spend the bucks for the Hardware, or DONT DO IT.

Soft raid has always worked fine for me. It used to be recommended for
swap, but the kernel long since learned to write in stripes on its own!
I use soft raid prinicipally in linear and raid 0 modes.

Peter

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From: "David .." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Packet sniffer?
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:11:20 -0600

John English wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend a utility to let me snoop network packets under
> Linux? I'm trying to solve a problem on my home network (machine A
> can ping machine B but B can't ping A). Having replaced cables and
> network cards, I'm completely baffled and I need something low-level
> to find out what's actually going across the network...


Here is a link to many of the top security tools.

http://www.linuxsecurity.com/articles/vendors_products_article-1993.html

-- 
Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
ID # 123538
Completed more work units than: 98.852% of seti users +/- 0.01%.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: usb printer
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:59:09 GMT

Call HP!  That's the only way I got my 970 installed....


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1) http://www.linux-usb.org/
> 2) wait for linux kernel 2.4
> 3) use the development linux kernel 2.4 test
>
> Paulie wrote:
>
> > How do I get my Deskjet 970cse to work using usb?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: Robert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: New To Linux - Distributions
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:12:44 GMT

There are a few good games available for Linux. Most of them are ported
from windoze and can be found at www.lokigames.com

You'll find also interesting to download the playstation emulator for
Linux
FPSE from http://fpse.emusphere.com and PSX games :-).


Mike wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> I am thinking about downloading and installing Linux for the first time.  I
> am very familiar with Windows/DOS environments but from what I have
> heard/seen of Linux so far I have a feeling I am going to be pretty lost,
> but I think I would like to try it any way.
> 
> I have found huge lists of Linux Distributions, and I am not sure which one
> to get.  Bascially I use my computer for Windows based games (such as Red
> Alert 1/2, Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, C&C Tiberian Sun, and a few other
> DirectX and OpenGL based games) and the only application I use heavily is
> Microsoft Office 2000.  Can I run these things in a particular Linux
> distribtion, if so which one?
> 
> I have an Athlon 700, 256 RAM, Geforce 2 GTS system as well.
> 
> Can any one recommend a distribution for me?  Prefereably one that is
> novice-medium level of "difficulty" too...
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Mike

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From: "SeB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: divx
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:19:54 +0100

is there a stable divx player for linux?




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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Sound Program Recommendations
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:38:03 GMT


Hi,
    I would like some recommendations for free sound programs.
I need one to be able to make a wave file out of a signal that
I put into my Soundblaster 16 sound card from my stereo system.
The other function that I would like to be able to process the
sound by changing various sound qualities. Ideally both functions
would be in one program, but seperate programs are acceptable.
  Also it would be good if the program(s), have a user friendly
interface. Ex: a GUI interface.
  I am primarily using Redhat 6.1 on a P166 80 megs ram


Thanks

Mike




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From: "Viktor Polansky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux
Subject: D-Link Networkcard DEF 530TX
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:21:36 +0100

Help


i have a D-Link DEF 530 TX, and i need a driver for Red HAt,

I use 6. 2 Zooe

Can anybody help me?

Yours

Viktor Polansky



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From: mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Program to notify upon job completion
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:11:54 GMT


Hi
    I am looking for a program to either send a message to the
terminal / screen and / or e-mail a message that a particular job
that i submitted has been completed or do both functions.

                                                        Mike




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From: Edu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: es.comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc,es.comp.misc
Subject: Re: Need help:Speak Freely-7.1
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 19:05:48 +0100

Santiago Romero escribi�:

> El Thu, 23 Nov 2000 18:01:20 +0100, Edu escribi�:
> >Anybody could tell me which are the flags or the configuration that I
> >need to compile the source of speak_freely-7.1 ?? My OS is a Linux
> >RedHat 6.2 ona PC Pentium.
> >
> >I tried to run xspeakfree between two equal computers, but when I open
> >the microphone, I can only hear annoying noise and no voice.
>
>  descargalo ya en formato RPM compilado de rpmfind.net
>
>  salu2!

    Ya lo he probado, pero ni por esas. Ahora no oigo nada, aunque he
visto con tcpdump que se env�an los paquetes udp, pero no se oye nada!

Please help!!


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From: "Tim Jarrett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RPM's (Again!)
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 18:23:31 -0000

Hi,

I have managed to create an incredibly large problem for myself.  Being a
complete idiot (please don't laugh) I have uninstalled the rpm.rpm package
from Kpackage.  I usually use the command line but I decided to try a GUI,
and it went wrong.  As you can gather, I now have no way of installing
RPM's.  I downloaded the rpm-4-tar.gz from ftp but was missing a few
dependencies when I tried to install, so I tried to install rpm-2.3-tar.gz
(what I was running before).  When I tried to install with the usual
./configure; make; make install; I just got an "Error 1" message after the
compiler had churned away for a few steps.  I am really stuck as I can't
install rpm's and I can't get rpm to compile.  *Any* help or advice would be
appreciated.

Thanks in advance
TCJ.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: shutdown vs halt
Date: 24 Nov 2000 18:15:34 GMT

In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Anastis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]well...
]"shutdown -h now" (without the quotes of course) should work fine.
]A little bit late but it may still be useful.
]Anastis


]"J.Smith" wrote:

]> At least that is the way it works on some of the commercial *nix'es I have
]> worked with so far. So how come the linux 'halt' does a nice, clean shutdown
]> anyways? Something to do with the distribution I am running, which is
]> Mandrake? Or am I seeing things wrong here?

man halt
halt just is an alias for shutdown -h now essentially.

>From the Man page
               ....If halt or reboot is
       called when the system is not in runlevel 0  or  6,  shut-
       down(8)  will be invoked instead (with the flag -h or -r).

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Unruh)
Subject: Re: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
Date: 24 Nov 2000 18:25:07 GMT

In <3a1e4250$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Conrad Drescher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

]thanks for all the tips, I finally found out it was the startkde-script that
]initialized LD_LIBRARY_PATH. I needed some paths added in order to get a
]robotics-program running and do so now in /etc/profile. Anything wrong about
]that? It does not suffice setting the path in /home/<user>/.bashrc since i
]need root permissions when working.

Well, put it into /root/.bashrc
Putting it into /etc/profile sets is for ALL users and may mess things
up for some user.



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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No space left on device with /var filesystem
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 13:35:48 -0500

Fung Wai Keung wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I am running Linux Mandrake 7.1.  I sometimes encounter the "no space left
> in device" error when I run some commands like
> 
> root@acaepc53:/home/users/wkfung>rpm --rebuilddb
> error creating directory /var/lib/rpmrebuilddb.11932: No space left on
> device
> 
> or
> [ I can't print anything]
> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>lpr ~/.cshrc
> lpr: cannot create /var/spool/lpd/lp/tfA119acaepc53.acae.cuhk.edu.hk
> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>./lpd restart
> Shutting down lpd:                                         [  OK  ]
> Starting lpd:                                              [  OK  ]
> touch: /var/lock/subsys/lpd: No space left on device
> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>
> 
> and so on.  All involve the /var filesystem, saying that it has no
> availabe space.  However, I have more 160M available in /var, as reported
> by df
> 
> root@acaepc53:/etc/rc.d/init.d>df
> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1             190M   68M  112M  38% /
> /dev/hda8             2.4G  261M  2.0G  11% /apps
> /dev/hda10             11G  1.0G  9.7G   9% /home
> /dev/hda7             289M  5.6M  268M   2% /tmp
> /dev/hda9             3.8G  2.1G  1.5G  58% /usr
> /dev/hda6             289M  107M  167M  39% /var
> /proc/bus/usb         289M  289M     0 100% /proc/bus/usb
> 
> What is the problem with my /var?  and how to solve the problem?

What do you have in there that takes up all the space? Some of it may
be unnecessary and could be removed. I run just run my machine as
workstation (i.e., no large amounts of e-mail or news up there), and I
get:

Filesystem           1k-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/sda5              5778038   2123118   3355711  39% /
/dev/sda1                23331     13368      8759  60% /boot
/dev/sdb1                23300     13351      8746  60% /boot2
/dev/sda3              1981000     12238   1866348   1% /data1
/dev/sdb3              1981000     12364   1866222   1% /data2
/dev/sdb5              6520175    365734   5816676   6% /home
/dev/sda6               256592        84    243256   0% /tmp
/dev/sda7               489833     32041    432492   7% /var

You might want to do a 

du /var | less

and think about what you find there.

-- 
 .~.   Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                              Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\  Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^  1:30pm up 2 days, 13:25, 2 users, load average: 3.33, 2.92,
2.47

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From: "Sebastian Palm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Kernel Too Old error
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:17:36 +0100


<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote...
> Hal Burgiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> did eloquently scribble:
> > I get this message trying to install a package built on one machine and
> > then installing on another. The target system is very minimal with no
> > compiler, etc. and running 2.0.38 kernel. So I have to build this rascal
> > on a 2.2 system. Surely there is a way to do this. Any help appreciated.
>
> You'll need to install the 2.0.38 kernel includes somewhere and force the
> compiler to use those rather than the standard 2.2 set.
>
How minimal is the target system? If you're up to it, just configure a new
kernel on a 2.2 box, make it with make bzImage and copy the kernel image
from the arch/i386/(mumble) subdirectory oof the source tree. One of
the final lines of the compiler script output should tell you where to
look. The best option if you're moving the kernel is to make a monolithic
kernel (IMHO). I made one for my P-III the other day, and it weighed in at
900K, with support for all my hardware and all the filesystems I commonly
use. (and this was for a 2.4.x kernel....)

Sebastian




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From: "Sebastian Palm" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: USB mouse trouble with new kernel
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 14:35:47 +0100

Hi!

I got a surprise a few days ago, when I looked at the back of the
computer and noticed that I had not installed the USB/PS2 adapter on
my Logitech MouseMan Wheel, and it worked anyway. Cool, I thought,
and didn't think more on it.

Then I installed the Linux 2.4.0-test9 sources from a tarball on
a recent magazine CD, and thought I'd check it out. It has some
nice features, notably full USB/HID support and ACPI support, all of
which I use daily in Win2K.

I spent most of yesterday struggling with the boot sequence, which
informed me I had a bad or missing superblock on my / file system,
/dev/hdc1. Turned out that devfs didn't link /dev/ide/(mumble)
to /dev/hdc1, which led to the system being unmountable in r/w mode.

So before leaving work, I compiled a new kernel, without devfs,
and booted it to make sure, and the system worked perfectly.
So I brought it home with me (I ususally refer to it as the
"movable" mp3 player), and put it back together. And now, the
damned thing won't recognize my mouse...

I followed the instructions in the kernel docs, made an
"input" directory under dev,issued mknod 13 63 usbmouse, and
made the symlink /dev/mouse refer to this device. It worked
at work, with the same mouse and the same keyboard.
It won't work at home. If I try using /dev/sysmouse, which was
the previous setting, it doesn't work either, since sysmouse
isn't there.

Can someone _please_ tell me what's wrong here? I'll give more
info on request.


Sebastian



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