Linux-Misc Digest #554, Volume #26 Fri, 15 Dec 00 15:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: my list of RH7.0 bugs (Robert Surenko)
$20 Corel or $30 Mandrake ? (Don Hinds)
Re: archive (Matt Haley)
Re: What is the command to . . . ? (Robert Kiesling)
Re: shell script question (Matt Haley)
Re: mpeg layer 3 wavs (Rick Pasotto)
Re: best linux soundcard ("Michael Perry")
Re: Bloatware (Don Hinds)
Re: Switching to Linux (LONG) (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Hard Drive being accessed, but for what? ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: News Readers, the answer is GNUS, holmes ("Dan Jacobson")
Re: best linux soundcard (Graham Wilson)
Re: udp port 1024 (Chris J/#6)
Re: What can I delete in /tmp? ("Alk")
Re: best linux soundcard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
xmps plugin (Bart Friederichs)
xmps plugins (Bart Friederichs)
System time drifts (Tim Herzog)
Re: What can I delete in /tmp? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
xmps plugins (Bart Friederichs)
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: my list of RH7.0 bugs
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:20:00 GMT
My list of bugs in RH7 is simple.
1. Kernel 2.4.x Ready? I've had a devil of a time getting the
2.4.x kernel onto a RH 7 box. I can install the kernel rpm's
from the second CD, but try recompiling it or even worse
try compiling freeswan into it. Yes, I changed gcc to kgcc
in the Makefile.
2. Modules and expecially NIC drivers. Wow, I've never had these
troubles. I've solved all of them but why did RH6.2 know which
driver to use while RH7 can't?
Why do I have to manually tell the system in netconf that I'm using
something like a eepro100? It was smart enough to put it in
/etc/modules.conf so what's the problem?
Sorry, gotta go. I'm trying to compile again. :-)
In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Subject: $20 Corel or $30 Mandrake ?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Hinds)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:55:37 GMT
I understand they are both good. Which includes more in the box?
Don
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From: Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: archive
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:59:26 -0700
Edith Gincel wrote:
> Hello
> Can someone tell me where (if there is any) are the archive of this
> newsgroup ?
http://www.deja.com
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Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.slackware,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the command to . . . ?
From: Robert Kiesling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:00:08 GMT
Kasper Dupont <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Josef Moellers wrote:
> >
> > Allen Wong wrote:
> > >
> > > In alt.os.linux.slackware Markus Amersdorfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > > find . -name '*.txt' -exec grep "Hello World" {} \;
> > >
> > > This works, but it's alot slower than "find . -type f -name '*.txt' -print |
> > > xargs grep "Hello World".
> >
> > These solutions won't tell where they found the match.
> > Markus' solution can be enhanced to do that:
> > find . -name '*.txt' -exec grep "Hello World" {} \; -print
> >
> > --
> > Josef M�llers (Pinguinpfleger bei FSC)
> > If failure had no penalty success would not be a prize (T. Pratchett)
>
> Grep will tell the filenames if there is more than one file.
> If you just want to know the filename and not the actual
> lines use grep -l "Hello World".
>
> --
> Kasper Dupont
A slight elaboration to the "find" solution above: if you type
it on the command line, you must escape the braces with backslashes so
the shell doesn't interpret them:
$ find . -name '*.txt' -exec grep "Hello World" \{\} \; -print
As I remember it, only the semicolon needs to be escaped when command
is run from inside a bash shell script.
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From: Matt Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: shell script question
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 12:02:04 -0700
Michael Heiming wrote:
> cat /etc/aliases | grep $1
Just out of curiosity, why would you not use:
grep $i /etc/aliases
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Pasotto)
Subject: Re: mpeg layer 3 wavs
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:02:39 GMT
On 15 Dec 2000 01:18:14 GMT in comp.os.linux.misc, Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Dec 2000 20:44:36 GMT, Rick Pasotto staggered into the Black
> Sun and said:
> >Is there an alternative to 'play' that works with mpeg layer 3 wavs?
> >wavp doesn't complain but I get no sound and the values it displays
> >don't look like it recognizes the format.
>
> "MPEG 3 layer wavs"? Er, what are those?
I am simply going by the output of 'play':
sox: Sorry, this WAV file is in MPEG Layer 3 format.
> If the file contains MPEG 1 layer 3 compressed audio data, it's an MP3
> and can be played with xmms or mpg123 or mp3blaster or 5 or 6 other
> programs.
Thank you. mpg123 works if I redirect stderr. I wanted something to use
in a script. However, mpg123 won't play real wav files. So, for example,
I can't mix-and-match the two types of sound files for use in licq since
licq uses a single program to play sounds.
Is there a linux program I can use to convert? sox evidently won't do it.
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"The right to life is the source of all rights -- and the right to
property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no
other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his
own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has
no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others
dispose of his product, is a slave. Bear in mind that the right to
property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the
right to an object, but to the action & the consequences of producing
or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn
any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it.
It is the right to gain, to keep, to use & to dispose of material
values."
-- Ayn Rand
Rick Pasotto email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: best linux soundcard
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 08:57:36 +0800
In article <91cf8o$9hk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm about to purchase a new soundcard.
>
> What type of soundcard is ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED to work with Linux,
> including all sorts of SMP kernels?
>
> Thanks
>
> Wroot
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
I kinda like my SBLive card with the OSS Commercial Drivers.
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Michael Perry
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Subject: Re: Bloatware
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Hinds)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:07:14 GMT
Bloatware is not the NUMBER of applications, it is the Size of Each
application. WordStar 4.0 (the best of it's time) runs on an HP200LX - 4M,
with Wordfinder thesaurus and Many other programs and still has 3M free
RAM. A modern Windows WP needs 1M just to install. That is bloatware.
Don
his is only a comment about Linux based upon the "Windows
>Bloatware" argument. I'm a regular user of Linux at home and work for
which
>I'm grateful that it is "Bloated" with free software.
>
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Switching to Linux (LONG)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 14:18:25 -0500
Richard wrote:
>
> > > 1. What are the advantages and disadvantages to switching from Win to
> Linux
> > > and vice versa? Why do most people switch in the first place?
> >
> > I switched because I ran real operating systems for about 25 years,
> > and they seldom crashed. At one employer, I used Unix on about 10
> > machines for about 5 years and the only time they crashed was when all
> > 30 or so hard drives crashed at once.
> >
> > At the next company, where I worked for a little over 4 years, we ran
> > Unix on a 386 (or 486) Dell box. It ran 24/7 for the entire 4 years
> > except when we made hardware changes.
> >
> Q: which dist. were you running on the 386 box, & do you know where i can
> download on older dist. for use on a 3/486 box.
>
I was running Dell Unix (not Linux), since the box came from Dell.
AFAIK, Dell no longer offer an OS of their own, and have not for a
long time. I think it was SVID 3.2 type of Unix, not BSD, but I cannot
remember for sure.
I would think any Intel-Compatible distribution would work on a 386
box, provided you had enough RAM and hard disk space to run it. If you
have a brain-damaged WinModem, you can expect problems of course.
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: Hard Drive being accessed, but for what?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:23:04 +0800
"Anna" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ????? news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> mike channeled into his puter:
>
> > Please would someone help with my question
> > I have installed Mandrake 7.2 which seems to work great,
> > but once the machine has been on a couple of minutes the
> > HD light comes on and the HD is accessed for ages but I
> > don't know why. I did an install that installed everything
> > have I installed something that would do this?
>
> Several things can cause this:
>
> --not enough RAM (64 or less MB) causing swap space to be
> used for normal operation.
>
> --a cron job starting.
>
> --an unwanted service running.
>
> When this happens, type
>
> $ ps aux
>
> in a term window or at the commandline and you will see
> listed every process that is running. One or more of those
> is the sucker. Cron jobs are listed as cron. You can stop
> the process or job with the command
>
> $ kill -9 (number of job or process from ps aux listing)
Well gosh, don't you think this might be a tad bit rash?
Sort of "shoot first then ask questions".
I mean you might of been at least more polite
with a plain "kill" first instead of going direct to
#9. And how about first doing "man command" to
see what we are about to kill. It could be a "vital
maintenance process"; you never know.
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From: "Dan Jacobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Subject: Re: News Readers, the answer is GNUS, holmes
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 15:42:32 +0800
"Neuromancer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ���g��l��
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thus spake tom about Life, the Universe, and,
> Re: News Readers:
> > Anybody tried running Free Agent under Wine?
>
> Yeah. That and Eudora. When I went completely to linux (YEA!) a few
> years ago, those were the two apps I missed the most. I've been using
> linux since the early nineties, but never switched completely over since
> I could never find capable replacements. I hate pan. Just something
> about it that always pissed me off. I tried mahogany for mail and it
> was the buggiest piece I had ever used. I'd use gnus for news but it
> needs emacs and I'm from the long-established cult of vi (been using it
> for YEARS. Even used it under dos and winblows). Then I got smart. I
> said screw X. I do most of my work at the console now.
Well, what about running one of the about 5 VI emulations available on emacs?
Then you could wipe away other users with the supercite quotation package
while still keeping in the VI mindset? [that I did not post this from GNUS is
due to my other car being a Mercedes, etc. never mind. Ok, I finally got Linux
just installed
finally and GNUS is scheduled for next week's learning curve.]
I mean it's got to be good, it's composed of 75% "GNU", only one letter away
from being "GNU" itself.
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From: Graham Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Subject: Re: best linux soundcard
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:29:11 -0800
Michael Perry wrote:
> I kinda like my SBLive card with the OSS Commercial Drivers.
>
> Michael Perry
Where could I find the information that would allow me to get my SBLive
card working? I HAVE tried to figure it out myself, but am not certain
how to proceed. Any help would be greatly appreciated. G.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chris J/#6)
Subject: Re: udp port 1024
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 15 Dec 2000 19:36:24 -0000
>Dear All,
>
>'netstat -na' show that one service ready for udp port 1024.
>
>udp 0 0 *:1024 *:*
>
>Would you know which service?
>
It's probably named (named -u named, pid 499, your DNS name server). Either
try "netstat -nap" or if you have lsof installed (if you don't, install it --
it's a damn fine system tool), you can use the command: "lsof -i UDP:1024"
Chris...
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From: "Alk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What can I delete in /tmp?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 21:31:17 +0200
Reply-To: "Alk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
1) old files at any time (eg from cron)
find /tmp -atime +5 -type f -exec rm {}\;
2) everything at boot time
AG
"Dragan Colak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:91d3vu$mt5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi group,
>
> I have a Linux installation here with 712 MByte of data in /tmp.
> I would like to reduce the size of it. What can I delete and what
> shouldn't I touch?
> Can somebody give a little advice, please?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Dragan
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: best linux soundcard
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,linux.redhat
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:36:05 GMT
Are the S/PDIF digital audio connectors functional for you?
Thanks...
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
"Michael Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I kinda like my SBLive card with the OSS Commercial Drivers.
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From: Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.xl
Subject: xmps plugin
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:27:42 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for a good DivX player for Linux. I played a bit with xmms,
but that's terribly slow and no sound can be heard (seems like the mp3
coded soundstream isn't decoded). So I tried xmps. Look nice, but there
is no AVI plugin in the tar.gz file. I know it exists, because I found
some info about it, but not the source/binary itself.
Could anybody send it to me plz? (or tell me where to get it)
TIA
Bart
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From: Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: xmps plugins
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:32:03 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for a good DivX player for Linux. I played a bit with xmms,
but that's terribly slow and no sound can be heard (seems like the mp3
coded soundstream isn't decoded). So I tried xmps. Look nice, but there
is no AVI plugin in the tar.gz file. I know it exists, because I found
some info about it, but not the source/binary itself.
Could anybody send it to me plz? (or tell me where to get it)
TIA
Bart
=======================================================================
The internet is a too slow way of doing things you'd never do without
it.
Bart Friederichs, 1998
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim Herzog)
Subject: System time drifts
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 13:59:42 -0600
I just installed 7.0 (RedHat) and I'm having the same problem I first had
under 5.2. I can set the system clock (e.g., "date 12151315"), but when I
reboot (shutdown -r now), it comes up about 7 hours in the future. How
can I get the time to persist between reboots? I remember having this
problem with my previous v5.2 release, but it mysteriously "went away." I
know I could use NTP to set the time, and probably should, but I don't
think that fixes the real problem here. Could this be a CMOS problem, ie,
time to replace the battery? But I didn't have problems until I
upgraded...
Thanks,
Tim
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Subject: Re: What can I delete in /tmp?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 19:59:57 GMT
Dragan Colak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Hi group,
>
> I have a Linux installation here with 712 MByte of data in /tmp.
> I would like to reduce the size of it. What can I delete and what
> shouldn't I touch?
> Can somebody give a little advice, please?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Dragan
On RH Linux (and possibly other distributions), you can use the
'tmpwatch' program like this 'tmpwatch 240 /tmp'. This will delete all
files in /tmp that have not been accessed in the last 240 hours (10
days.) As long as you don't have any personal files in /tmp, that is a
safe way of cleaning it up.
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Prasanth Kumar
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From: Bart Friederichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.x
Subject: xmps plugins
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 18:23:27 GMT
Hi,
I am looking for a good DivX player for Linux. I played a bit with xmms,
but that's terribly slow and no sound can be heard (seems like the mp3
coded soundstream isn't decoded). So I tried xmps. Look nice, but there
is no AVI plugin in the tar.gz file. I know it exists, because I found
some info about it, but not the source/binary itself.
Could anybody send it to me plz? (or tell me where to get it)
TIA
Bart
=======================================================================
The internet is a too slow way of doing things you'd never do without
it.
Bart Friederichs, 1998
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