Linux-Misc Digest #595, Volume #26               Wed, 20 Dec 00 11:13:04 EST

Contents:
  Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops? (Joseph M. White)
  2.2->2.4 pppd error: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid argument ("newuser")
  Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET (John Hanson)
  Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login? (James Kuchler)
  kppp ("cedric")
  Re: good distro for 486? (Stephen Hui)
  kernel panic again ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: What is a journalized file system? (Tom)
  Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login? ("AndyW")
  FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions Installation Failure ("Tom Edelbrok")
  Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login? ("Jan Schaumann")
  Virtual Domain setup ("sylvianl")
  Re: Glibc-2.2.x install? (John Dixon)
  Re: Do Linux ext2 partition need defrag? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: Do Linux ext2 partition need defrag? (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login? (Bob Tennent)
  Re: Mr. No swap (Jean-David Beyer)
  Cannot find the... (Eugenio Saulo Lorena Inacio de Oliveira)
  Re: Redhat vs Debian (Jean-David Beyer)
  Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET (Kirk Strauser)
  Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login? (Jean-David Beyer)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Joseph M. White)
Subject: Re: anyone got recommendations for laptops?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 13:22:29 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 17 Dec 2000 08:27:13 -0500,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darryl L. Pierce) wrote:

>On Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:13:23 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>hi
>>
>>i'm currently thinkning of getting a laptop which i intend to install
>>linux on (make is either going to be a sony viao or a panasonic laptop
>>since i've heard some good reviews, albiet not 'linux' based reviews)
>>and am wondering if anyone out there has any strong
>>recommendations/dont-touch-with-12foot-pole.
>
>I'm running RedHat 7.0 on my Gateway Solo 9300 without incident. All systems are
>working just fine.
>
>-- 
>/**
> *  @author Darryl L. Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> *          <http://welcome.to/mcpierce>
> *          "What do you care what other people think, Mr. Feynman?"
> */
I have a Sony Viao pcfg430. Mandrake runs fine on it, except for the
sound. Haven't got that working, yet.
When you're ready to start, a good site is:
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/


joe

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From: "newuser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 2.2->2.4 pppd error: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid argument
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,alt.os.linux
Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2000 02:34:07 +0000

# Linux 2.4.0testxx

Dec 21 01:33:48 localhost pppd[539]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0
Dec 21 01:34:29 localhost pppd[539]: Serial connection established.
Dec 21 01:34:29 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module tty-ldisc-3
Dec 21 01:34:29 localhost pppd[539]: Couldn't set tty to PPP discipline: Invalid
 argument
Dec 21 01:34:30 localhost pppd[539]: Exit.

# Linux 2.2.x (same script, but pppd works)

Dec 21 01:49:09 localhost pppd[556]: pppd 2.4.0 started by root, uid 0
Dec 21 01:49:45 localhost pppd[556]: Serial connection established.
Dec 21 01:49:45 localhost pppd[556]: Using interface ppp0
Dec 21 01:49:45 localhost pppd[556]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
Dec 21 01:49:46 localhost pppd[556]: local  IP address 203.96.104.51
Dec 21 01:49:46 localhost pppd[556]: remote IP address 202.27.176.164
Dec 21 01:49:47 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
net-pf-10

ppp-2.4.0 installed and ppp compiled in (or a module) same error occurs,
how do i fix it? on debian woody here.

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From: John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:02:41 GMT

On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:45:05 GMT, Tony Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
said:


>>>
>>> So, if you're content with either using X 3.3.x or waiting until
>>> X 4.0.2 (which *may* have S4 support) to appear, then the S540
>>> is a fine card.  I've enjoyed mine.
>>
>>My spies (Hi timr!) tell me it made the cutoff for 4.02.
>>
Your spy is wrong.  It does not support the card.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:10:43 GMT

In comp.os.linux.misc John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Dec 2000 06:45:05 GMT, Tony Sweeney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> said:


>>>>
>>>> So, if you're content with either using X 3.3.x or waiting until
>>>> X 4.0.2 (which *may* have S4 support) to appear, then the S540
>>>> is a fine card.  I've enjoyed mine.
>>>
>>>My spies (Hi timr!) tell me it made the cutoff for 4.02.
>>>
> Your spy is wrong.  It does not support the card.

According to www.xfree86.org:

"A driver (savage) for S3 Savage chipsets has been added."

Of course, I'm not sure if it's true :-)

If not, I imagine that Tim Roberts will be distributing the driver from
his web page as he's done in the past for the 3.3.6 driver.

Adam


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From: James Kuchler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:21:36 -0500

I think I've corrupted my /etc/bashrc file while trying to set an alias. 
When I try to log in now, I just get a new login prompt. I can't login 
as root or any other user on my system. Is there a way to change the 
shell which I login to? Any way around this at all? Don't want to 
reinstall. Just got through doing that - mozilla, JDK, Oracle DB. Took 
hours. Please help me out or give me the bad news.     Thanks.


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From: "cedric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: kppp
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 06:00:17 -0800

I have to 'chown username /usr/sbin/kppp' in order for kppp to work.
Also, I have to enter roots password
When I do this, am I on the net as root.
If so, how do I change this?


-- 
cedric

Linux powered

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From: Stephen Hui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: good distro for 486?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:44:41 -0600

I ran RedHat 6.2 on a 486-DX4/100, 32 MB RAM, 1 MB PCI Trident video
adapter.  It was just fine for console work, and when I needed X, I used
fvwm (for speed).  I used the box mainly for file sharing.



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>         I've got an old 486dx4 box, 40m memory, ISA video card.  It actually
> runs SuSE 6.3 pretty nicely, even enlightenment, albeit a little slow.  Only
> problem is, I need to update a bunch of stuff in one fell swoop.  Anybody
> running SuSE or Mandrake 7.x on older hardware?  Any problems I should know
> about?  I'm particularly concerned with running something newer than Xfree
> 3.3.6 on a 1mb Trident 9440 card.
>         Desperately hedging obselecence...
> 
>         ef

-- 
Stephen Hui, ARL:UT, Austin, Texas

Computer Terms: Programmer - A red-eyed, mumbling mammal
capable of conversing with inanimate objects.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: kernel panic again
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:38:11 GMT

I have a single HD machine. I installed RH^.0 workstation and used it
for several days. I removed the HD and install a larger HD and did a
RH6.0 full install. There were two files on the smaller disk that I
wanted to put on the larger disk. When I attempted to boot up the disk
I got a kernel panic message. I did a rescue boot and need help to get
the files that I want. I ahve limited knowledge of what to do after the
# prompt appears.

Thanks, Donald


Sent via Deja.com
http://www.deja.com/

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From: Tom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What is a journalized file system?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:00:51 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I was recently reading an article discussing Linux, and the article
> reference something called a "journalized file system".  What is a
> journalized file system, and what is it used for?

   http://www.namesys.com/content_table.html

    The link to to the ReiserFS page.  There you'll find a lengthly and 
detailed description of the difference between ext2 and reiserfs. Rfs is 
prob'ly the most widely used journalized file system.  Mandrake ships it as 
an option during install.  For the average Linux user the main benefit is 
improper system shutdowns are no problem at all, no need for a lengthly 
fsck on re-boot.  I've been using it for several months with no problems.
-- 
Tom  Brinkman                       Galveston Bay

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From: "AndyW" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:08:07 +0000

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "James Kuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> I think I've corrupted my /etc/bashrc file while trying to set an alias.
>  When I try to log in now, I just get a new login prompt. I can't login 
> as root or any other user on my system. Is there a way to change the 
> shell which I login to? Any way around this at all? Don't want to 
> reinstall. Just got through doing that - mozilla, JDK, Oracle DB. Took 
> hours. Please help me out or give me the bad news.     Thanks.

Start up in single user mode -

LILO: linux single

You'll have root access[1] so you can fix the .bashrc file, then reboot as
normal.

Andy

[1] Unless you disabled this for security reasons - oops!

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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: FrontPage 2000 Server Extensions Installation Failure
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:13:08 -0800

When I use "./fp_install.sh" to install FrontPage Server Extensions from
fp40.linux.tar.Z to apache webserver on Redhat Linux 6.0 the following error
message displays and then it quits:

Cannot open "service.pwd": no such file or folder.

I do a search of Microsoft's site and come up with this description of
service.pwd:

"Contains the encrypted password files. Not used on IIS and WebSite
servers."

I cannot find service.pwd anywhere in my Apache scripts and don't see it in
the Q202198 Microsoft installation instructions. Does anyone have an idea
how to fix this?

Thanks, Tom.



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From: "Jan Schaumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:15:26 -0500

* "James Kuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think I've corrupted my /etc/bashrc file while trying to set an alias.
>  When I try to log in now, I just get a new login prompt. I can't login 
> as root or any other user on my system. Is there a way to change the 
> shell which I login to? Any way around this at all? Don't want to 
> reinstall. Just got through doing that - mozilla, JDK, Oracle DB. Took 
> hours. Please help me out or give me the bad news. 

If you switch to runlevel 1 (or whatever runlevel "single user mode" is
in your distribution), you should be dumped into /bin/sh, IIRC.

Of course now you can't log in - so you need to reboot and type "linux
single" (or whatever your default kernel is) at the LILO: prompt.

Then you can fix whatever you messed up and type "exit" and the machine
should reboot or switch to the appropriate runlevel.

-Jan

-- 
Jan Schaumann <http://www.netmeister.org>

   I like to say "quark"! Quark, quark, quark, quark!
                  -- Calvin



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From: "sylvianl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Virtual Domain setup
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 23:20:47 +0800

Dear Experts,

Any one knows how to setup Virtual Domains under RedHat 6.1?

Thanks.

Sylvian



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From: John Dixon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Glibc-2.2.x install?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 07:23:53 -0800

lobotomy wrote:
> 
> Maybe, except for one thing:  the RPM you have was probably made for Red
> Hat 7, and thus compiled with the development version of GCC included.
> You might find some things don't work if you don't also have the other
> libraries compiled for RedHat 7.  In other words, the only 'safe' path
> would be to upgrade your entire system to RedHat 7, which might not be a
> good idea at this point.
> 
> You can probably find versions of your packages that were compiled for
> your distribution or something equivalent, that do not require glibc2.2.
> I can't think of any software that absolutely requires it in order to
> compile, in fact most software will still compile with libc5.  So the
> 'safe' thing would probably be to either build it from source yourself,
> or find packages built for a distribution (Mandrake, SuSE, RH<=6.2,
> Caldera?) that doesn't use 2.2.
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know how to successfully upgrade glibc-2.2 from rpm
> > packages?  Is it safe to use the --nodeps switch on rpm in order to
> > override about
> > 100 dependencies warnings?  Many new packages will not build without
> > glibc-2.2, but I cannot discover a safe upgrade path.
> 
> --
> PC Chips actually goes by many names. PCChips = Ability = Alton = Amptron =
> Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu =
> Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple =
> PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed

Thanks for taking the time to send this sage advice.  I'll compile from
tar packages instead of using rpm for the newer stuff.

John Dixon

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do Linux ext2 partition need defrag?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:24:36 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (in part):
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-David Beyer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > > So I think that Linux would benefit more from a properly
> > > defragmented filesystem.
> 
> > Have you ever measured it? Have you run a reasonable benchmark (a
> > heavily IO-dependent program that runs for a long time compared to
> > getting it into memory at startup) both before and after
> > defragmentation of the file system where its data reside?
> 
> Under Linux: not in detail  8-S  Still seeking a capable I/O benchmark
> (for the console) which measures harddisk and network performance. Any
> tips?
> 
> Nevertheless, the benefit in saving harddisk seeks while scanning
> through directories is easily perceivable. I suppose about 10% to 30%
> higher speed (and lower noise, both depending on what kind of harddisks
> you use) when trying to find files and maybe between 1% and 4% when
> sequentially reading the files. (Compared to a rather fragmented
> filesystem).
> 
> Some people even reported some higher values (much more than 10%), but I
> wouldn't like to overstate it. In general, the values should be
> comparable between all filesystems. You probably shouldn't expect
> general speed improvements of 50% or more in any real-world scenario, no
> matter which filesystem you use (though such a scenario could be
> constructed). And don't forget the cache, which usually assists indeed.

Fred Grampp figured out that on a System/360 Model 65 runing PCP (i.e.,
one task at a time, not multiprogramming) that deliberately fragmenting
the disk space allocations in a controlled way gained something like a
3:1 speed increase when doing sequential reads. Independently, I found
with an operating system I wrote, that fragmenting the file system "just
right" got something like a 7:1 increase in sequential reading in some
cases, cases that occured regularly. I could do that fragmenting
separately for each type of file, and the 7:1 improvement was for
loading programs, which is what was frequently done. Here too, the OS
was not a multiprogramming one (this was in the 1960's when the hardware
had either primitive memory management, or none at all, so
multiprogramming was not really practical).

BUT, when you run a multiprogramming system with many tasks going on at
the same time, the fragmentation matters a lot less because even if one
process is reading sequentially, the others are screwing around with the
head-positioning and Murphy's Law militates that the heads will be in
the wrong place most of the time anyway. Improvement in the scheduler of
the disk driver so that it changes the order of the IO requests to
optimize the movement of the heads works wonders under conditions of
heavy load. Under conditions of light load, it does not matter much if
things are fragmented or not. We used to use (for UNIX) what was called
the "elevator algorithm" for IO request queue management. There was a
lot of work done on these queue scheduling algorithms and I have no
assurance that "elevator" is still considered to be the best, and I do
not know what Linux does these days. In those old days, we could see the
disk drive heads and as the load went up, the heads would do a rather
uniform scan from one edge of the disk to the center and back.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 10:10am up 15 days, 18:57, 3 users, load average: 2.03, 2.03, 1.97

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Do Linux ext2 partition need defrag?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:37:45 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Floyd Davidson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Can you explain to me the benefits of low fragmentation on a
> > file intensive multiuser multitasking system such as any unix
> > is, where every x time slices for y number of different users
> > there is a file i/o request for a completely different file than
> > is being requested by any of the other users?
> 
> Is that the case everywhere? I guess you're talking about situations
> which mainly apply to (big) business servers. Indeed, when (nearly)
> TB-RAEDs  ( $*] )  and GB caches are (should be) in use, fragmentation
> is probably of about as little interest as the failure of some harddisks
> (per month) is.
> 
> I don't think this applies to the majority of Linux users. If we don't
> talk about 24h/day, permanently used servers (which can't be regulary
> defragged, anyway), the number of concurrent user / file accesses may be
> well limited in most cases. Even Linux machines may be operated as
> single user machines.

I run my machine single-user, but my process table has 83 processes in
it, 79 sleeping. This is the usual case, and I have two "loud" Quantum
Atlas 10000 hard drives where it is quite easy to hear the seeks. Right
now, it is doing a seek every few seconds, and the disk IO rate is
something well under 1K bytes per second.

But sometimes I run a 6-hour job where I am averaging about
1.1Megabytes/second and there are quite a lot of seeks, quite a few per
second. (I have seen transfer rates up to about 20Megabytes per second
under conditions of heavy load; a find / command does not get anywhere
near that.)

My view is that if you are really running a single user machine with
relatively few processes actively using the disk, the fragmentation does
not matter much because the machine can do something else while waiting
for the seeks to complete. And if the machine is very heavily loaded,
fragmentation still does not matter because you will probably be compute
limited in that situation, so you will be waiting for the CPU(s) in that
case.
> 
> > You do understand that the effect is *massively* fragmented file
> > i/o, far greater than any nominal amount of disk fragmentation
> > that you are speaking of.
> 
> If you have an average of 100000 harddisk seeking accesses per hour, a
> saving of 2000 doesn't really matter, of course. But if you have 10000
> accesses and can save 2000, it should start to matter, shouldn't it?

No, because a maximum seek on my hard drives is about 5 milliseconds, so
the 2000 per hour amounts to a savings of 10 seconds per hour. We have
wasted more time than that just talking about it.

> Aren't there still some people who pay about 50% more money to get a 5%
> faster CPU?

Perhaps, but are they being rational? Perhaps they are, if their work is
compute limited. I have 2 CPUs in this machine because one was not fast
enough. But if my workload involved mostly running a few very slow, but
short, jobs, it would not matter. Since my old slow machine took over 24
hours to run one of these, and the new one takes only 6, the 18+ hour
savings matters. But 10 seconds/hour? A savings of at most 4 minutes per
day?

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 10:25am up 15 days, 19:12, 3 users, load average: 2.04, 2.07, 2.00

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login?
Date: 20 Dec 2000 15:37:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Wed, 20 Dec 2000 09:21:36 -0500, James Kuchler wrote:
 >I think I've corrupted my /etc/bashrc file while trying to set an alias. 
 >When I try to log in now, I just get a new login prompt. I can't login 
 >as root or any other user on my system. Is there a way to change the 
 >shell which I login to? Any way around this at all? 

Boot with a boot/rescue disk, mount the relevant partition and edit
/etc/passwd. The last entry on your line is your default shell. You would want
to change it to, say, /bin/tcsh.

Bob T.

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mr. No swap
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:51:36 -0500

Dan Jacobson wrote:
> 
> "Neuromancer" said:
> > ......  Also, I have NO swap (of course, I have 512MB of ram...).
> 
> What's it like living with no swap?  I suppose your disks are much quieter that
> the average users'?

I have 512Megabytes RAM and I do have 2 swap partitions. Since I do not
do memory intensive work (I got all that memory because it was so cheap,
but my old system works fairly well with just 64 megabytes). It seems to
me, though, that if you have swap space, that Linux will use it. Right
now my system is using 21 Megabytes of swap (out of a possible 273
megabytes). But about 400 megabytes of the memory is used for buffers
and cache that could be reclaimed were it necessary to load some of the
swapped stuff in. The swapped stuff is mainly the mgetty, nfs, and samba
that are extremely lightly loaded in my situation.

I find it amusing that even kswapd is swapped out. I wonder what that
means? How does it swap itself back in?

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 10:45am up 15 days, 19:32, 3 users, load average: 2.11, 2.12, 2.04

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From: Eugenio Saulo Lorena Inacio de Oliveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot find the...
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 12:50:55 -0500

GNU C library minor version number.

Hi
I've tried compiling gcc-2.95.2 (using glibc-2.1.3 and gcc-2.95.2). My
glibc headers and libraries are in diferents place(not the default
/usr/include and /usr/lib). But CFLAGS=3D-nostdinc -I<dir> -L<dir>.
What can I do?

Thanks in advance Eug=EAnio Saulo.

I'm very interested in what you have to say. Please send your comments to
/dev/null.


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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Redhat vs Debian
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 10:57:41 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (in part):

> I don't look at http://securityfocus.com .
> Besides, it crashes my 4.76 Netscape once in a while.

I use Netscape 4.76, and I agree with Karl Marx; Netscape contains
within it the seeds of its own destruction. You do not need to go to
http://securityfocus.com to make it crash.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 10:55am up 15 days, 19:42, 3 users, load average: 2.09, 2.11, 2.08

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Crossposted-To: comp.unix.bsd.freebsd.misc
Subject: Re: DIAMOND:STEALTH III 540, 32MB, AGP, SAVAGE4 CHIPSET
From: Kirk Strauser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 20 Dec 2000 09:31:04 -0600

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John Hanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Your spy is wrong.  It does not support the card.

According to www.xfree86.org
(<URL:http://www.xfree86.org/4.0.2/Status28.html#28>), X 4.0.2
does indeed support the Savage 4 chipset.  I haven't verified
this myself, but it looks pretty official to me.
- -- 
Kirk Strauser

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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ruined my /etc/bashrc. Can I login?
Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 11:08:17 -0500

Jan Schaumann wrote:
> 
> * "James Kuchler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I think I've corrupted my /etc/bashrc file while trying to set an alias.
> >  When I try to log in now, I just get a new login prompt. I can't login
> > as root or any other user on my system. Is there a way to change the
> > shell which I login to? Any way around this at all? Don't want to
> > reinstall. Just got through doing that - mozilla, JDK, Oracle DB. Took
> > hours. Please help me out or give me the bad news.
> 
> If you switch to runlevel 1 (or whatever runlevel "single user mode" is
> in your distribution), you should be dumped into /bin/sh, IIRC.

You better not be running Red Hat, then. In my Red Hat Linux 6.0,
/bin/sh is a symbolic link that points to (you guessed it) /bin/bash.

I suppose I should find sh or something like it and put it up there
instead of the symbolic link. Any suggestions as to another shell, one
that will do the shell scripts that run on boot-up (i.e., those in
/etc/rc.d and below)?
> 
> Of course now you can't log in - so you need to reboot and type "linux
> single" (or whatever your default kernel is) at the LILO: prompt.
> 
> Then you can fix whatever you messed up and type "exit" and the machine
> should reboot or switch to the appropriate runlevel.

-- 
 .~.  Jean-David Beyer           Registered Linux User 85642.
 /V\                             Registered Machine    73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey
^^-^^ 11:00am up 15 days, 19:47, 3 users, load average: 2.28, 2.14, 2.09

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