Linux-Misc Digest #37, Volume #27 Tue, 6 Feb 01 09:13:01 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Martin Gregorie)
Re: 1 screen, 1 keyboard, 2 copmutors (Martin Gregorie)
Re: cant connect to sourceforge (Sebastian Hans)
Re: 1 screen, 1 keyboard, 2 copmutors (Sebastian Hans)
Re: 1 screen, 1 keyboard, 2 copmutors (Sebastian Hans)
Re: Compile from Micro soft access to Linux (GYULAI Mihaly)
Re: Does JDK 1.3 work with kernel 2.4? ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: Samba 2.0.7 and large files (>2 GB) ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: Cant run Acrobat Reader on RH 7.0 ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: How to turn off cron mail? ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
How to set proxy server? ("Jan Vandesompele")
Re: RAM advice (Jean-David Beyer)
imwheel and 5 button IBM mouse? (Terry Gliedt)
Re: How to turn off cron mail? (Ernst Sexauer)
Re: Problems trying to upgrade my RPM package from RPM3 to RPM4 (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Starting KDE as a user ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Which Linux distribution is best? (Jean-David Beyer)
Open Source databases.... ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: How do I setup an HP 842C printer? (Mark Bratcher)
Re: 2.4 Kernel compile... (Mark Bratcher)
Re: Disk space not marked as free? (Fritz)
Re: "top" shows X using 129MB ?? (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: open_ssl question ("Tom Edelbrok")
Re: How to check for process existence (Jean-David Beyer)
Re: Squid Proxy Server? ("Tom Edelbrok")
Re: How to turn off cron mail? (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:25:42 GMT
On 6 Feb 2001 00:53:58 GMT, Steve Mading
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>:> : There are only 3 positions to take on a proposition
>:> : 1) Belief that the proposition is true.
>:> : 2) "I don't know"
>:> : 3) Belief that the proposition is not true.
>:>
>:> : One cannot claim that one is neither (1) nor (2), and still TOTALLY
>:> : without a belief.
>:>
>:> You are right. Too bad for your argument, though, that atheists
>:> often *do* say (2), and your implication that all atheists say
>
>: Then they aren't atheists, they are agnostics.
>
>The terms are not mutually exclusive.
Yes they are. From Webster:
Atheist:
: one who denies the existence of God
Agnostic:
: a person who holds the view that any ultimate reality (as God)
is unknown and prob. unknowable;
broadly : one who is not committed to believing in either the
existence or the nonexistence of God or a god
You cannot deny the existence of God and simultaneously declare that
His existence or otherwise is unknown without contradicting yourself.
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gregorie | Martin Gregorie
@logica | Logica Ltd
com | +44 020 76379111
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Gregorie)
Subject: Re: 1 screen, 1 keyboard, 2 copmutors
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:29:44 GMT
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:51:28 +0100, Natanael Copa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I wonder how I connect on terminal to another computer. Alt-F1 to Alt-F6
>gives the tty1-6 but I want to redirect tty6 to ttyS0. So when I press
>Alt-F6 I see the login screen on the second box.
>
(1) use an ethernet connection betweern the PCs and telnet across
(2) use a serial connection and run a terminal emulator, Kermit for
instance.
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gregorie | Martin Gregorie
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com | +44 020 76379111
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From: Sebastian Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: cant connect to sourceforge
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:32:29 +0100
"Peter T. Breuer" wrote:
>
*snip*
> >> Is your identd running?
>
> > No.
>
> That could be a killer under many circumstances. Usually inetd
> launches identd when it has to. Try and ensure that it can when it has
> to.
That's most definitely not it. I don't have identd enabled and SSL works
for me. I'm using lynx.
seb
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From: Sebastian Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1 screen, 1 keyboard, 2 copmutors
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:42:37 +0100
Martin Gregorie wrote:
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:51:28 +0100, Natanael Copa
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >I wonder how I connect on terminal to another computer. Alt-F1 to Alt-F6
> >gives the tty1-6 but I want to redirect tty6 to ttyS0. So when I press
> >Alt-F6 I see the login screen on the second box.
> >
> (1) use an ethernet connection betweern the PCs and telnet across
> (2) use a serial connection and run a terminal emulator, Kermit for
> instance.
And replace the line in /etc/inittab that respawns a getty for tty6 with
one that respawns telnet or kermit or whatever.
Sorry I don't have a sample line ready, just a thought.
Example, anyone?
seb
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From: Sebastian Hans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1 screen, 1 keyboard, 2 copmutors
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:51:06 +0100
Sebastian Hans wrote:
>
> And replace the line in /etc/inittab that respawns a getty for tty6 with
> one that respawns telnet or kermit or whatever.
Oh, and of course you don't have to limit yourself to 6 ttys.
That would seem too few for 2 boxen. So I'd suggest adding a few more
for tty8 through tty12 or so.
A good idea BTW, I have a similar setup myself, but I never thought
about mapping my telnet sessions to virtual consoles like this.
seb
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From: GYULAI Mihaly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Compile from Micro soft access to Linux
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 11:46:06 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Carl Kvanvig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there software that will compile a micro soft based access
> program into linux?
I've read in MySQL doc, that it can import data from MS Access
database, however you should write the program to use those data.
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GYULAI Mihaly
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.lang.java.misc
Subject: Re: Does JDK 1.3 work with kernel 2.4?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:05:43 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Sorry for such an obvious question, but I can't seem to find a
> definitive answer digging around DejaNews, so I'll just ask it
> outright:
>
> Does the Sun JDK 1.3 work with Kernel 2.4? Anyone out there using it?
Yes it does.
You might also check out blackdowns v1.3 VM www.blackdown.org
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba 2.0.7 and large files (>2 GB)
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:08:21 +0100
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:95mpoa$6gk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I'm using Linux 2.4.1 and Samba 2.0.7 and noticed some problems with
> this combination (could be Samba only though, I don't know).
> Extra note 2: I use 'ls' 4.0 from GNU fileutils.
> Any information about what this could be is very welcome!
>
> P�r Lindahl
if you do a ls -lh it is also 0sized?
Could be you need some new file/utils ..
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cant run Acrobat Reader on RH 7.0
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:09:27 +0100
"Eduardo M Kalinowski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95mp8u$5v5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> I recently upgraded to RedHat 7.0, but I have not been able to run
> Acrobat Reader and some other programs (like Maple V). I get an error
> message like this when I run the programs:
>
> path:No such file or directory
>
> where path is the path of the executable program. Has anybody found a
> solution to this problem?
I'd probably check the pat of the executeable, and see if it matches your
icon
or whatever you click...
Works fine here...
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to turn off cron mail?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:20:21 +0100
"GYULAI Mihaly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95oish$o7k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I start some programs from crontab. (as user and as root)
> (I receive the mails also that were sent to root).
>
> How can I turn off mails that cron sends to me?
see the file /etc/crontab
set the MAIL parameter to someone else or to nothing..
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From: "Jan Vandesompele" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How to set proxy server?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:42:06 +0100
Hello,
I have a php script that tries to open a webpage:
$fd=fopen("http://somurl/somepage.xml","r");
The problem is that fopen cannot find the page specified. To surf the web I
set a proxy server in Netscape. Can I somehow specify that all http traffic
should use this proxyserver? On my linuxbox apache is installed with some
webpages on it. When I do:
$fd=fopen("http://localhost/mypage.xml");
everything works, because the script finds the page.
Any ideas?
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: RAM advice
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:49:21 -0500
Xavier Houppertz wrote:
>
> > > here is a vmstat 5
> > >
> > > procs memory swap io system cpu
> > > r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us sy id
> > > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 5 0 3 2 0 0 2 0 5
> > > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 0 160 160 0 0 99
> > > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 2 174 161 0 1 99
> > > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 0 177 160 1 0 99
> > > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 1 168 159 0 0 99
> > > 0 0 0 8152 4540 5128 98936 0 0 0 0 175 162 0 1 99
>
> > us + sy + id = 100, that's what it should be...
>
> It is not ! 2 + 0 + 5 = 7 ???
> The manual says the first line is the averrage since last reboot ... So ?
If you read "Essential System Administration" by Aeleen Frisch
(O'Reilly), it says:
"The first line of every vmstat report is an average since boottime; it
should be ignored, ... " In my view, it does not even reflect that
average, since because of setiathome running (two instances, because I
have two CPUs) continuously, the averages shown in the first line should
be pretty close to the others. If anything, they should be higher than
what is here because when I run database-intensive programs, that take
several hours apiece, the resources consumed are considerably higher.
IMAO, the first line of a vmstat report should be ignored, not because
it represents the averages since boot time, but because it is just plain
wrong.
Mine looks like this at the moment:
valinux:jdbeyer[~]$ vmstat 5
procs memory swap io
system cpu
r b w swpd free buff cache si so bi bo in cs us
sy id
2 0 0 17056 122404 42340 241364 0 0 6 5 4 20
7 3 4
2 0 0 17056 123052 42340 241364 0 0 0 2 110 272
93 7 0
2 0 0 17056 123052 42340 241364 0 0 0 1 107 267
92 8 0
3 0 0 17056 122928 42340 241364 0 0 0 0 109 268 90
10 0
4 0 0 17056 122532 42340 241364 0 0 0 0 107 249
92 8 0
2 0 0 17056 122788 42340 241364 0 0 0 1 108 264
95 5 0
The system is relatively idle except for two setiathome processes that
run at nice 19 and consume all the otherwise unused CPU cycles.
>
[snip]
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From: Terry Gliedt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: imwheel and 5 button IBM mouse?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:51:06 -0500
I've bene using imwheel with a new black IBM mouse with a
scroll wheel. The middle button is pretty useful to me and
while pressing the wheel often works, sometimes it also
scrolls, messing up the operation.
This particular mouse has 3 small buttons near the thumb which
I'd love to enable so I can use one of these as an alternative
middle button. Has anyone managed to enable these three
buttons? Please respond to me directly (as well as the group)
so I don't miss your response. TIA
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From: Ernst Sexauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to turn off cron mail?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:25:22 +0100
GYULAI Mihaly schrieb:
> I start some programs from crontab. (as user and as root)
> (I receive the mails also that were sent to root).
>
> How can I turn off mails that cron sends to me?
>
at least in SUSE-Linux there is etc/crontab. In this file is a
parameter MAILTO=.
Per default this is root. With "" mails for crontab are not sent to
anybody.
Best regards
E.R. Sexauer
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problems trying to upgrade my RPM package from RPM3 to RPM4
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:56:46 -0500
David wrote:
>
> "David J." wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to upgrade my RPM RPM package to 4.0-4 from 3.0.4-0.48 (the
> > version of Red RPM included with Red Hat 6.2). I am running Kernel 2.2.16
> > and Red Hat 6.2 on a 450 Mhz PIII.
> >
> > What I'm doing is booting into single-user mode (runlevel 3), and executing
> > the following command:
> >
> > rpm -U -h -vv rpm-4.0-4.i386.rpm
> >
> > I get the following error message when I do this:
> >
> > "Only packages with major numbers <= 3 are supported by this version of RPM
> > error: package cannot be installed"
> >
> > Can anybody help?
> > There must be some way to upgrade this package.
>
> Upgrade to rpm-3.0.5-9.6x first then see if you can upgrade to rpm 4.
>
I tried that. rpm-3.0.5-9.6x works fine on those RPMs that the older
version would not process. But I cannot go up to rpm-4.0-4; there are
just too many dependency problems to bother with. I am running R.H.L.
6.2 (actually, VA Linux Systems version of that, called 6.2.3). I
decided not to bother going up any higher.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Starting KDE as a user
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 12:55:01 GMT
export WINDOWMANAGER=/<path to>/kde
startx
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
mike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> my friend has SuSE 7.0 and wanted to run KDE as a user and
> for some reason couldn't. He said that he could run it as root.
> He also tried to start it from the command line and couldn't.
> What is the way or ways that this can be accomplished?
>
> Thanks
>
Mike
>
>
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Which Linux distribution is best?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:00:26 -0500
Arctic Storm wrote:
>
> > I have a P133 with 32MB RAM and 10G HD, but my System Bios has this 8.4
> > Gig barrier. I am not getting BIOS upgrade for the motherboard. When I
> > try to install Win 98, at the time of installation, the scandisk
> > freezes the machine.
> > Would I have the same problem with Linux too? If not, which
> > distribution is good?
>
> 32 MB RAM isn't going to cut it.
> Either add 32 more to get total of 64, or give up.
I think a lot depends on what the O.P. wants to do. I have a P166 on a
64 Megabyte box, and R.H.L.6.0 works just fine on it. Once in a while,
when I boot that box, the BIOS or whatever it is, finds only 32 Meg of
memory. Linux still boots and tries to run in 32 Meg. It thrashes the
disk continually when I try to run GNOME/Enlightement (with X Window
System), but if I run just CLIs, it works just fine.
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Open Source databases....
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:06:55 +0100
What open source RDBMS are out there? We have successfully used
MySQL in some projects, however for our next requirements are diffrent,
among other
things we need stored procedures.
What options in opensource/free db's do we have?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: How do I setup an HP 842C printer?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:04:43 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Manatee wrote:
>Mark Bratcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Sorry. That's what they're called in Ghostscript (the underlying filter).
>
>> I think these would be "HP Deskjet 550C" and "HP DeskJet/DeskJet Plus" in
>> Printtool.
>
>Yes, I tried teh 550C and several other HP's with no luck. The green light,
>that should blink, stays a solid green. No response at all from the printer.
>
OK, ya got me there. The only clue I can think of is that www.linuxprinting.org
shows it as "partially" supported, which I think really means you only get
certain capabilities depending upon which printer you map it to with
ghostscript.
You could try taking a test postscript file and experimenting with
gs on the command line to see if you get different results using,
for example, the hpdj or cdj550 emulations directly (in case those aren't
really what the printtool items map to). Also you could try upgrading your
ghostscript in case it's an older one.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Bratcher)
Subject: Re: 2.4 Kernel compile...
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 13:09:58 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeffrey Hood wrote:
>I am relatively new to kernel compiling, and downloaded the 2.4 source
>last week... as per the instructions that I found, I did the following:
>
>make mrproper
>make xconfig
>
>make dep
>make bzImage
>
>make modules
>make modules_install
>
>I -tried- to select all of the appropriate options in xconfig, but seemed
>to have missed some of them as the kernel ran fine (after a few tries...)
>but was missing some modules... most notably the nic driver... I ran
>insmod on the modules that compiled, and some seemed to install okay...
>
>After playing around, and having some more success, I got everything
>pretty much working, but now I want to put 2.4 on my "real" box, and
>found an option "make oldconfig" and was wondering if that is what I
>should use to get ALL of the old kernel configuration before I start to
>change things (my Athelon 800 wasn't picked up right by RHat 6.2, and I
>have to put a lilo switch... supposedly if I pick the Athelon in xconfig
>that should be fixed...)
>
>So mostly, my question is should I run the following sequence, and am I
>missing anything in trying to compile on a box that has all of the
>devices and modules working fine (don't want to loose anything...)
>
>make mrproper
>make oldconfig
>make xconfig - set new settings - and how do I check to see if everything
>came in fine...
>make dep
>...
>
>What should I be running prior to all of this to get an accurate list of
>what I need to check, and where are the kernel options that were used in
>the install of RedHat 6.2 located...
>
>Thanks in advance...
>
I'm not sure that a ".config" for an install exists anywhere.
IMHO, you should bite the bullet on the 'make xconfig' and, once you
have it, carry it forward to new kernels as you get them to build them.
I always found the online help on the make xconfig quite helpful.
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From: Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk space not marked as free?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:10:44 +0100
Julius Longauer wrote:
> Fritz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I got the following problem:
> > Having two Linux partitions, one at moutpoint '/' (hda9) and one at
> > '/usr' (hda13), it appears that my root partition was filled up to 87%,
> > so I decided to move the '/opt' directory (580mb) to a newly created
> > partition. I did it like this:
> > 1. move /opt to a spare place
> > 2. delete /opt
> > 3. create new /opt (md)
> > 4. add new partition to mountpoint /opt
> > 5. copy back old /opt /... to new
> > I expected to have my disk usage for hda9 thus lowered by 580M, about
> > 50% of the partition, however df still shows 87% of usage. On the other
> > hand,
> I
> > see 34% usage on hda12, the new partition.
> > I verified that /opt now resides on hda12 (it does) and counted up
> manually
> > the values given by du for hda9 (which now are really about 300M), so I
> am
> > suspecting that the disk usage for hda9 is not correct.
> > Can anybody advise me ? I am not an experienced Linux user and might
> > have
> > done something wrong. How can I get rid of this? Are there any
> > utilities to map directories and free space to partitions?
> >
> Let's guess: The whole contents of your former /opt directory is still
> there on hda9 and consumes disk space but you (and du) can't see it while
> hda12 is mounted. So umount hda12 and look if there are any files in it.
>
> Julius
>
>
>
>
>
Thank you,
I did as suggested, but no new perceptions...
df -> hda9 87%, hda12 37%
dir /opt -> all stuff
umount hda12
dir /opt -> only directory (1K)
df -> hda9 87%...
Besides this, I set up a little routine utilizing the 'stat' system call,
which tells that /opt is on 3, 12 (hda12) when mounted, and on 3,9 (hda9)
if not...
Still hoping for a solution. Fritz
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: "top" shows X using 129MB ??
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:18:51 -0500
Lloyd Llewellyn wrote:
>
> Can this possibly be correct? That's half of all my memory!
I would be surprised. My "X" (/etc/X11/X) is using about 32 MegaBytes. I
have a Matrox G200 with 8 Megabytes of its own.
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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: open_ssl question
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:27:56 -0800
Thanks, all, for the help.
Where I came up with openssl being needed for openssh was in
http://www.linuxsecurity.com/tips/tip-20.html. This write-up says that
openssh uses openssl to form the encrypted channel between the ssh client
and ssh server.
In addition, "Securing and Optimizing Linux: Redhat Edition" by Gerhard
Mourani indicates on page 183, chapter 11 "Linux OpenSSH Client/Server"
indicates the following:
"OpenSSL, which enables support for SSL functionality, must already be
installed on your system to be able to use the OpenSSH software. NOTE: For
more information on OpenSSL server, see its related chapter in this book.
Even if you don't need to use OpenSSL software to create or hold encrypted
key files, it's important to note that the OpenSSH program require its
libraries files to be able to work properly on your system."
If I had read this last paragraph more carefully I would have realized that
the certificate things are not needful. Rather, the OpenSSH simply requires
OpenSSL to be installed so that libraries can be used.
Much thanks for help,
Tom
Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Mark Hahn wrote:
>
> > >> I have just installed open_ssl on my Redhat 6.0 system. Everything
goes OK.
> > >>
> > >> But I don't really understand the background of SSL except that it
gives
> > >> secure sockets. So I'm still wondering what certificates are and if
they are
> > >> really required for just running SSH. My real purpose is to just run
SSH so
> > >> I can tap into a Linux box securely over the internet.
> >
> > you can do ssh without ssl.
> >
> > >> QUESTIONS: If all I want is SSH do I have to fill in all of the
certificate
> > >> items in openssl.cnf? For example there is [CA_default],
> >
> > no.
> >
> > > perhaps you made a mistake or you are mixing things up, SSL and SSH
are two
> > > different things
> >
> > no, he's not as confused as you think: openssh requires an ssl
> > implementation. I have the impression this is for ssl2, though,
> > since the old, non-open ssh didn't require an ssl implementation.
>
> Hello,
>
> you're right that you need the ssl libaries in case you want to compile
openssh
> ./configure will show what is needed.
>
> I just wrote as it seemed, that he thought, he could make a secure shell
> connection with
> SSL, you can run it with mod_ssl as https, use it as TSL for secure
mailing, but
> you can't
> get a secure shell connection with it AFAIK!
>
> Michael Heiming
>
>
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to check for process existence
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:27:55 -0500
Thomas Hahn wrote:
>
> OK, so I want to find out within my C program if process "foo" exists, and I
> want to
> do it efficiently. Doing system("killall -0 foo") or popen("/bin/ps -e") takes
> too long
> (like 30ms). I don't want to pay for execing a shell or starting a new process.
>
> I could probably grovel around and find some old ps source, but I was hoping
> someone
> could just go "I've done this, here's the code". Oh, and it needs to work on
> Irix too.
>
Do you happen to know the pid of process foo? If so, you could kill(2)
it and look at the return code. kill(pid, 0), so you do not annoy pid. I
worked on a system with a very large (> 200) number of cooperating
sequential processes, and we did this to see if particular ones were
still alive.
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From: "Tom Edelbrok" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Squid Proxy Server?
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 05:32:20 -0800
If you read the squid manual and FAQ (available at www.squid-cache.org) you
will find that squid does not do ftp. However, squid does do ftp if the ftp
arrives via http. I'm not quite sure what they mean when they say that the
ftp has to arrive via http but I can tell you from experience with squid
that most ftp things work. Some don't. The ones that do work usually have
about a 30 second time-out, then give you a message box saying "The squid
proxy can only get this ftp stuff as read-only. Are you sure you want to
proceed?". Then you say "yeah, ok". Then you can download it fine.
Tom
Eric Chow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:95melg$r2p$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> I use my Linux to dialup to ISP. And I setup a Squid proxy server in
> Linux, it can allow all other macahines in the LAN connect to the
> Internet(if set using the proxy in the browser).
>
> But, is it possible to allow those machines in the LAN using Telnet,
> FTP or other socket ?
>
> Best regards,
> Eric
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com
> http://www.deja.com/
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to turn off cron mail?
Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:32:54 -0500
"Nils O. Sel�sdal" wrote:
>
> "GYULAI Mihaly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:95oish$o7k$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > I start some programs from crontab. (as user and as root)
> > (I receive the mails also that were sent to root).
> >
> > How can I turn off mails that cron sends to me?
> see the file /etc/crontab
> set the MAIL parameter to someone else or to nothing..
You can certainly do that, but perhaps you should not. Someone should
see those because something is wrong. It may just be that those cron
jobs are producing unnecessary output, in which case they should be
fixed. If you turn it all off, you will almost certainly not get an
important error message (such as your backups are not working).
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