Linux-Misc Digest #121, Volume #27 Thu, 15 Feb 01 20:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: Booting Win2K and Caldera eDesktop ("Ian Ellis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Re: safe rm ("Ian Ellis")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Robert Surenko)
Keyboard mapping and ster (Mike Mcclain)
Re: LFS and lilo (Mike Mcclain)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (John Hasler)
Re: KDE vs FVWM - a quick question ("Will Fish")
Re: Cron notification? (MH)
Re: Help Needed Compiling linux 2.4.1... (Paul Lew)
Winders Millenium and the mbr. ("atl.mediaone")
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
reading text from other terminal ("- = k o l i s k o = -")
Re: Linux or Windows (NOT A HOLY WAR!) ("lobotomy")
Re: Netscape 4.7x crashing on Red Hat 7.0 (Didn't help) (James D Parker Jr)
How can I get rid of "bas (Mike Mcclain)
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:32:20 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
>> Or how about this one...
>> Little fairies manipulate scientific experiments for their infinite
>> amusment and joy. These little fairies are from the 5th dimension
>> and feel their greatest acomplishment is that they have faked out the
>> humans who now believe that all objects fall at the same rate.
>> All smart little fairies know that heavy things fall faster.
>> Prove it.
> We don't have to. The burden of proof is on you. You'll find it
> rather hard, mind you, because your theory has no testable
> consequences that I can see. You can believe it if you like, but
> it's a nontheory; its predictive power is nil.
No, I'm sorry, You have speculated that the Scientific Method is
somehow different than a faith. Even impliying that "truth" can
be approched. I don't see how you can prove this and have mearly
given you some alternatives to the data you are observing.
The burden is on you to "prove" the Scientific Method, without
using it in a proof.
Your only alternative is to admit that the Scientific Method
is indeed a faith.
>> We are all asleep in little pods. We are hooked to a virtual reality
>> program called the Matrix...
> Ditto. If you can think of a test for this, fine, propose it, and test
> it.
No, this is a possible explaination to the data you have observed.
You have postulated that the Scientific Method produces knowlege.
Please design an experiment if you wish, however, I also see your
theory as having no testable consequences.
>> My point is that Science is based on some fudemental principles
>> that can not be proven, such as the belief that repeatability
>> means something.
> Uh, repeatability is the basic minimum required for anything to be worth
> troubling with. If you can't repeat your bug, I'm not going to
> bother with it (unless it is a really disastrous bug). COme back when
> you can, but until you can, I'm going to call you a charlatan, and it's
> up to you to prove me wrong.
So, as another poster pointed out, the big bang can't be proved because
it can't be repeated? Has JFK really been shot?
> Peter
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: "Ian Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Booting Win2K and Caldera eDesktop
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:30:11 -0000
I think you need LOADLIN to boot Linux from NT Loader - I've never tried it
myself, I've always installed lilo as my first boot selection, with options
to boot linux or to boot NT loader to decide between Win 9x and NT - not
pretty, but it works *(the most annoying thing is that you can;t change the
default OS form Microsoft OS's).
Here's the doc for LOADLIN (sorry if you're a grandma):
LOADLIN.EXE, a loader (running under DOS) for LINUX kernel images
(fully supporting the kernel's command line feature)
(C) 1994..1995 Hans Lermen ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
=================================================================
LOADLIN uses the same principle as BOOTLIN from F.Coutant, but has
enhanced error checking and fully supports the "command line feature"
of Linux. It also accepts a response file, so the command line can be
greater than 128 bytes.
LOADLIN-1.6 is highly adaptable to different DOS configurations, and now
has very few loading restrictions. It makes use of extended memory and
also can load big kernels (bzImages) and ramdisk images (initrd)
directly high. The bzImage+initrd standard was jointly developed
by the LILO-author (Werner Almesberger) and the LOADLIN-author (me)
and is part of the official kernel since version 1.3.73.
It is also capable of booting a UMSDOS-based system from a DOS drive.
Some options (-v, -t, -d) produce debug information, so if you have
problems, you can follow what is really being done by LOADLIN.
LOADLIN also can load out of Virtual-86 mode (which is normal when
using EMS drivers) if a VCPI server is present.
The loader program works from the DOS prompt or from CONFIG.SYS
under the following conditions:
1. The buffer memory (lowmem + extended) is great enough
to hold the compressed kernel image (zImage or bzImage)
aswell as the initrd image (optional)
2. A) The CPU is not in virtual-8086 mode
or
B) The EMS driver supports VCPI.
For a quick start read the QUICKSTA.RT file
For a detailed description please read the MANUAL.TXT file.
===========================================================================
Contents of LODLIN16.TGZ
========================
readme.1st you're reading me now!
loadlin.exe the loader
copying GPL of Free Software Foundation
test.par a sample response (params) file
linux.bat a sample DOS batch file
initrd.tgz a _very_ simple initrd (/linuxrc) example
doc
doc/changes history of LOADLIN
doc/quicksta.rt as the file name says, but you will need more to read
doc/manual.txt the manual
doc/params.doc description of Linux command line parameters
doc/announce.txt the posting that announced bzImage+initrd
doc/initrd.txt description of initrd (as of linux/Documentation/*)
doc/lodlin16.lsm
src source
src/loadlin.asm
src/loadlina.asm
src/loadlini.asm
src/loadlinj.asm
src/loadlinm.asm
src/makefile makefile for TASM
src/pgadjust.asm 32-bit part of Loadlin, generated by src/srclinux.tgz
src/srclinux.tgz 32-bit source (must compile under Linux)
I believe the trick is to make a DOS bootable partition on your machine,
include this in your NT Loader boot.ini file and invoke LOADLIN from the
AUTOEXEC.BAT file on the DOS partition.
That's enough egg sucking. Good luck.
Ian
"Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:96hbe4$8ij$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi everyone,
>
> I want to dual boot Caldera eDesktop 2.4 and Windows 2000 Pro. I have two
> hard disks. The first one /dev/hda has a single partition and Windows
2000
> is installed on it. The second one has an ext2, FAT32 and a swap
partition
> on it and Linux is installed there. Caldera uses a boot loader called
GRUB.
> Right now I have to boot from the Caldera CD. I can boot Windows 2000 no
> problem.
>
> I tried making an image to boot Linux with like this
>
> dd if=/dev/hdb1 bs=512 count=1 of=linux.img
>
> and copied it to my Windows partition and added it to my boot.ini file. I
> get the option when NTLoader runs to launch either Windows of Linux but
when
> I select Linux it just sits for a second and then my machine reboots. I
> have tried making images of everything from one block to 9 blocks. None
of
> these image files work. I want to load Linux using NTLoader. What am I
> doing wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ken.
>
>
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:34:22 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc S P Arif Sahari Wibowo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 15 Feb 2001, Johan Kullstam wrote:
>>>science is based upon *repeatability*. that which cannot be repeated
>>>is not science.
>> This not accurate. Science is based on *consistency*. A theory need not to
>> be repeatable to be considered science, but it need to be consistent with
>> other theory and observations.
>> For example, the Big Bang theory, obviously not repeatable, but consistent
>> with existing theory and observation.
> Theories are NOT "repeatable"! Experiments are. The big bang theory has
> testable consequences. For example, it predicts that the universe will
> be saturated with background radiation: the cooled bang. And it is.
> It also predicts the ratio of hydrogen to helium in the universe, and
> by golly it gets it righti, as far as we can measure.
So how do we know that JFK was shot?
> Peter
--
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: "Ian Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: safe rm
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:33:53 -0000
That sounds like the old Novell trick of keeping track of deleted files
until the actual data blocks have been overwritten.
Don't know of anything that works like that.
"S P Arif Sahari Wibowo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001, Peter T. Breuer wrote:
>
> >> Do you know a program that replace the ordinary rm with 'safe rm' that
> >Your shell. Define an alias.
> >> move the objects into a 'trash folder' instead of delete it right away?
>
> Well, when I count it the time for make the script for each shell, and
> then the time to make the trash management script, well I guess is wort it
> to see if somebody already make the package.
>
> Also, I want to know if somebody have a program that works in lower level,
> so even the deletion is called from other program (not shell), it still
> goes to the trash can. Maybe some kind of module that change the file
> system functions?
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> S P Arif Sahari Wibowo
> _____ _____ _____ _____
> /____ /____/ /____/ /____ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> _____/ / / / _____/ http://www.arifsaha.com/
>
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From: Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:37:40 GMT
In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> What is the difference between a "fixpoint theorem" and a "faith
>> in a belief"?
> Fixpoint theorems can be proved purely formally, without any recourse to
> semantics. "every contraction mapping in a locally compact metric space
> has a fixed point". "Every increasing continuous functional in a
> distributive lattice has a fixed point", etc. etc. For the locally
> compact metric space take R3 and you get the "hairy ball theorem" (comb
> a ball and there is a bald patch - actually an even more interesting
> pair of points too). For the lattice take the sentences of an axiom
> system, connected by the entailment relation, and for the functional
> take the provability operator, and you find that there's an interesting
> sentence ...
Funny, but that does not answer the question.
> Peter
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- Bob Surenko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- http://www.fred.net/surenko/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Keyboard mapping and ster
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:04:25 GMT
Howdy,
I wouldn't be surprised if default font map has no pound
symbol since there is none on the us keyboard.
G'luck,
MiKe
-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
NO> Anyone any hints?
NO> Jeremy
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: Re: LFS and lilo
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:04:25 GMT
Howdy,
Try copying your lfs kernal below the 1024 cylinder like on
hda1 and pointing lilo at it.
G'Luck,
MiKe
-=> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote to ALL <=-
GE> Anyway, lilo gives me in both cases LI when I boot from my lfs disk.
GE> Can anyone help me with this problem?
GE> Thanks,
GE> Gerry Jacobs
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.31
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 21:08:31 GMT
Bob Surenko writes:
> Little fairies manipulate scientific experiments...
> ...
> Prove it.
Science does not prove. It disproves. Make a testable prediction that
depends critically on the existence of your fairies.
> And as soon as you completely trust it,...
...you are no longer doing science.
> Science comes up with stuff that works... but it does not lead to truth.
What makes you think there is such a thing?
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, Wisconsin
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From: "Will Fish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE vs FVWM - a quick question
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:30:22 -0000
Nick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNIP ***********
I think wot U mean is not switching virtuel terms, but getting X error
messages.
I think suse probably starts X by redir the error pipe (stderr, 2) to a file
(perhaps $HOME/.xerrors) I dunno cause I don't use suse, you can edit this
in either startx, or one of the other xwappers used when starting X. perhaps
add a tee command and pipe to xconsole program??
hope this helps
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From: MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cron notification?
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 15:54:54 +0000
Peter T. Breuer wrote:
> MH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How can I have cron send me notification that the backup task has
> > completed successfully (I'm using cp for backup). Presumably, I could do
> > this using
>
> Make the task emit something on stdout or stderr.
> (i.e, man cron/crontab)
>
OK. Got it. Thanks!
--
I use GNU/Linux and support the Free Software Foundation. This message was
composed and transmitted using free software, licensed under the General
Public License.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Paul Lew)
Subject: Re: Help Needed Compiling linux 2.4.1...
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:55:38 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 12:20:39 -0500, Aaron Dhiman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>"Richard M. Denney" wrote:
>
>> Aaron Dhiman wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I'm new to Linux and am trying to compile 2.4.1, but keep getting the
>> > message:
>> >
>> > "In file included from /usr/local/linux/include/linux/raid/md.h:51,
>> > from init/main.c:25:
>> > /usr/local/linux/include/linux/raid/md_k.h: In function `pers_to_level':
>> >
>> > /usr/local/linux/include/linux/raid/md_k.h:39: warning: control reaches
>> > end of non-void function make: *** [init/main.o] Error 1"
>> >
>> > and the compile keeps crashing. If I comment out the body of the
>> > function 'pers_to_level', compile goes a little longer, but then crashes
>> > on another warning. Shouldn't the compile complete, regardless of
>> > "warnings"? Any suggestions?
>> >
>> > I'm on an Athlon/K7 system, running Red Hat 7.0.
>> >
>> > Thanks for any help!
>>
>> Are you using the kgcc compiler (rather than gcc) as suggested by Red Hat
>> for version 7? You do this by editing the Makefile in the top level
>> directory of the linux source (/usr/src/linux, probably), changing the
>> reference to gcc to kgcc. Then recompile (make clean dep modules
>> modules_install install). You may find that the errors go away...
>>
>> My "Makefile" reads (after changing gcc to kgcc):
>>
>> CC = $(CROSS_COMPILE)kgcc -D_KERNEL_ -I$(HPATH)
>>
>> Rick
>
>Hi Rick,
>
>Thanks for the suggestion. Using kgcc, the compile is successful _if_ I
>disable
>the Athlon/K7 option (i.e., config processor as PIII). There appears to be
>some bugs in the code for the Athlon option.
>
NO. At least not when the Athlon/K7 option is used on the SuSE distr
when compiling either 2.4.0 or 2.4.1; both compiled on correctly after the
modutils package was updated as per the Changes.
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From: "atl.mediaone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Winders Millenium and the mbr.
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 23:44:16 GMT
Does Winders Millenium take over the mbr? I've installed linux in the past
on machines with Win98 present and it set itself up as a dual boot box, no
problem. Just got a WinMe box and things have gone way south. I can boot
Linux but when I try to go for the Windows boot it just says it's starting
Me and then hangs. Vendor of course can't be bothered to support Linux so
that's not much help. (If it were'nt for relatives I'd have the whole thign
as a Linux box, so please let's not get into that argument.)
Rich Mycroft
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:10:39 -0000
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:32:20 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc Peter T. Breuer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> In comp.os.linux.misc Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
>>> Or how about this one...
>
>>> Little fairies manipulate scientific experiments for their infinite
>>> amusment and joy. These little fairies are from the 5th dimension
>>> and feel their greatest acomplishment is that they have faked out the
>>> humans who now believe that all objects fall at the same rate.
>
>>> All smart little fairies know that heavy things fall faster.
>
>>> Prove it.
>
>> We don't have to. The burden of proof is on you. You'll find it
>> rather hard, mind you, because your theory has no testable
>> consequences that I can see. You can believe it if you like, but
>> it's a nontheory; its predictive power is nil.
>
>No, I'm sorry, You have speculated that the Scientific Method is
>somehow different than a faith. Even impliying that "truth" can
>be approched. I don't see how you can prove this and have mearly
>given you some alternatives to the data you are observing.
>
>The burden is on you to "prove" the Scientific Method, without
>using it in a proof.
There is no burden. This forum is proof enough. This network,
the machine you are blathering on, the house you are sitting
in, the power grid that powers all three and even your very
existence are all consequences of following the scientific
method.
You having enough to eat, you being sufficiently sheltered
from your enviroment to make it to adulthood, your ancestors
surviving long enough to procreate, all are due to the notions
that humans have about their universe that came about through
the scientific method.
[deletia]
Demanding proof of the scientific method in this century is
much like demanding proof that the sun exists.
--
Common Standards, Common Ownership.
The alternative only leads to destructive anti-capitalist
and anti-democratic monopolies.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 00:20:17 -0000
On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 22:00:09 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>In comp.os.linux.misc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:38:45 GMT, Robert Surenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>In comp.os.linux.misc Johan Kullstam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dan Mercer) writes:
>>>
>
>> The only problem with your tirade is the fact that the
>> only reason you even exist now is because of such
>> "religious" beliefs.
>
>Perhaps, although humankind existed for 100,000 years without
>formal science... 3 or 4 hundred years is probably not enough time
So. That doesn't have any relevance to your own existence.
>to see if this science stuff is better for the species.
>
>By the way, tirade is defined as a "long haranging speech". It is
>a word usually used by a person who avoids the question.
That is just empty rhetoric on your part. The fact still
remains that you only exist because technology has allowed
you and your forebears to live and thrive. Unless you are
Amish, just about anything you have is a result of this
'highly questionable' scientific method that is taken on
faith.
>
>I proposed several hypothesis as to why the Scientific Method
>appears to work. No speach... just some questions.
They are irrelevant. They all resolve to the same outcome.
God and faith become meaningless when they don't have any
impact on your life. Even if this is some strange game,
the fact remains that we seem to be figuring out the rules
rather well.
It is not up to us to disprove your absurdities. OTOH,
proof by counterexample should be trivial enough that
you would be willing to take on that burden.
>
>
>>>Science comes up with stuff that works... but it does not lead to
>>>truth.
>
>> No one with any clue claims that it does. It suffices that
>> it works remarkably better than following church doctrine.
>
>It appears so, for matters of the five senses.
>It fails miserable when it comes to ethics or phylosophy
>or religion.
Who claimed otherwise?
[deletia]
The rest of your rant is irrelevant to the point at hand.
If you wish to force "god" to be considered relevant for
discussions of ethics or philosophy, then that is another
matter. I would disagree with you in such an argument as
well.
Man will always spoil enlightenment. So any talk of god
is meaningless when it comes to just about anything.
For "god" is just the agenda of man in disguise.
--
Having seen my prefered platform being eaten away by vendorlock and
the Lemming mentality in the past, I have a considerable motivation to
use Free Software that has nothing to do with ideology and everything
to do with pragmatism.
Free Software is the only way to level the playing field against a
market leader that has become immune to market pressures.
The other alternatives are giving up and just allowing the mediocrity
to walk all over you or to see your prefered product die slowly.
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From: "- = k o l i s k o = -" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: reading text from other terminal
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:40:03 +0100
Hi,
Is possible to read data/text from other terminal?
In example. I am the root and I am logged on tty1.
When I try to write to tty2 (echo xxxxx > /dev/tty2)
it is fine, I see the text xxxxx on tty2.
But when I tried something like this - cat /dev/tty2 or tail -f /dev/tty2,
and then write a text on tty2, it is not functional.
How is possible to read output of terminals (tty, pts, ... )
Thank You!
--
S pozdravem,
Michal Kolesar
+420 608 225025
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.egarden.cz
server of free unix services
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From: "lobotomy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux or Windows (NOT A HOLY WAR!)
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:02:33 GMT
You could look at the latest netcraft server benchmarks, in which a
machine running the new 2.4 kernel http daemon set a new record.
Or you could try Quake III, where it is clearly faster under windows
(anandtech, tom's hardware, etc. have done this comparison).
Neither of these really has anything to do with linux vs. windows,
though. In the first case, it has to do with the specific web server software
involved. The second depends on the OpenGL implementation and video
drivers. If there was a conclusive, all-encompassing benchmark which
could answer your question once and for all, you would have heard about
it. As it is, the empirical experience of users is at least as useful as
any benchmark.
In article <96h2up$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Scott Brady Drummonds"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi, guys,
>
> A class I'm taking has asked us to have a round table-type discussion
> about ancient holy war of "Windows versus Linux". Basically, they've
> asked us to consider the differences between these OSes on every front.
>
> I quickly realized that, as usual with these debates, we're long on
> opinions and short on facts. I've done some quick searching of the
> USENET and the web and haven't been able to find any specific benchmarks
> comparing Linux and Windows reliability, speed, efficiency, etc. I'm
> sure that a little bit of this info would be monumentally valuable to
> our discussion.
>
> Does anyone know where I can find such resources on the web? I know
> some of these may be difficult to obtain (especially since each OS runs
> different applications) but any kernel of fact would be a great fuel for
> the fire. Again, if possible, I'm talking about specific measurements
> observed by impartial bodies.
>
> Also, being a USENET veteran, I beg you not to post your opinions here.
> Just post, e-mail, or quote references. We all know how protracted this
> conversation will become if everyone throws in their two cents. ;)
>
> Thanks! Scott
--
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Aristo = Asia Gate = Asiatech = Assa = Atrend = Elpina = Eurone = Fugu =
Fugutech = Hi Sing = Houston = Hsing Tech = H Tech = Matsonic = Minstaple =
PCWare = Pine = Protac = QDI = Warpspeed
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From: James D Parker Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.7x crashing on Red Hat 7.0 (Didn't help)
Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 20:07:55 -0500
E J wrote:
> Edit->Preference->Advance->Cache
> Increase the memory cache (try doubling it?) and see if it reduces the
> Netscape 4.72 crashes.
>
<snip>
I increased it from 3000 to 6000 and then 12000. No change in behavior.
BTW, its Netscape 4.76 not 4.72.
Thanks
Jim
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mike Mcclain)
Subject: How can I get rid of "bas
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2001 01:05:14 GMT
Howdy,
Mind sharing what you don't care for about bash?
It's the only one I have extensive experience with so
I'm curious.
Your shell is set in /etc/passwd, use 'chsh' to change it
rather than hand editing.
G'Luck,
Mike
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NO> Hello, Please help
NO> I am new to Linux, I run TURBO LINUX.
NO> I got into "bash" and now it will not go away even if I reboot the
NO> machine. I just want to go back to the default when I installed the OS.
NO> Thanks to all.
NO> Doney
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