Linux-Misc Digest #240, Volume #27 Mon, 26 Feb 01 21:13:02 EST
Contents:
Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: usb mass storage support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Setting global environment variables (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Re: more help needed with changing root password (richard noel fell)
Re: FTP scripting... (Bud Rogers)
Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else (Aaron Kulkis)
Re: Setting global environment variables (Noah Roberts)
Re: small linux distro (Noah Roberts)
Re: Setting global environment variables (Mladen Gavrilovic)
Works like this in Sol2.8 ("CH")
Re: sawfish/Gnome questions (Roger Davis)
Re: Linux as terminal emulator. (orangefree89)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:01:03 GMT
>>>>> "Robert" == Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, In a message on Sat, 24
Robert> Feb 2001 17:40:48 GMT, wrote :
p> Could Linux be used in this factory environment ?
p>
p> What I'm trying to do, is design a factory inventory system.
p> To keep cost down I want to use Linux. The model I'm using, is
p> a furniture factory. I want to design a system that will allow
p> the factory to keep track of their "work in progress" and
p> finished goods. I'm guessing that this will be a little more
p> complicated than your average inventory system?
p>
p> Of course the workers would have to access the system to enter
p> data, etc, so the user interfaces can't be too complicated
p> (GUI?).
p>
p> SOFTWARE
p>
p> Is there any "open source" software that can help me with the
p> inventory and tracking ? or
p>
p> Would I have to write a program from scratch or could I modify
p> some existing software ? or
p>
p> Would it make more sense to just buy the software (for linux) ?
Robert> I don't know of any complete and ready-to-run packages, but
Robert> ALL of the pieces you need exist:
Robert> PostgreSQL -- a full featured database system.
Robert> Tcl/Tk -- there is a version of the Tcl/Tk system with an
Robert> interface to PostgreSQL. Tcl/Tk is *excellent* for rapidly
Robert> prototyping a GUI.
Those are possible reasonable options; the question is of how much
functionality is needed.
If there is willingness to pay to "hack together" something of an
inventory system, then the use of PostgreSQL/Tcl/Tk would be quite
reasonable, assuming that suitable shop floor computer hardware is
happy "doing X."
Inventory systems can run the range from something simple you might
"hack together" to sophisticated million dollar packages that you're
not likely to replicate in a day or two.
The typical buzzwords are MRP (Materials Resource Planning) and ERP
(Enterprise Resource Planning); some stuff like SAP R/3 is available
to run on Linux, at pretty high prices, but with pretty vast
functionality.
I'd suggest asking a _lot_ more questions to make sure that you've got
a good feel for the expectations before leaping into one solution or
another. With the more expensive options, saving a few bucks on an
operating system isn't likely to be a crucial factor, by the way.
p> HARDWARE
p> This is an easy (well easier) one for me, first I would make sure
p> the hardware (I'm buying) is linux compatible. I would go out and
p> buy B/W 9" monitors, those cool small cases (with the 810e chipset,
p> if the 810e is linux compatible), and celeron cpus, etc. I would
p> pick up some retractable keyboard and mouse holders and set up
p> several rack mount style data centers throughout the factory (I
p> would love to set this up!!!) On the server side, things get a
p> little tricky, maybe (just maybe) tie into a win 2000 server (A lot
p> depends on what existing system they already have, and we all know
p> that many of the existing systems will be win98, etc). I guess the
p> management would need to access the data entered by the factory
p> workers to check progress, productivity, etc. A linux server could
p> be used and we could somehow give the management access to this
p> server though their existing win boxes (secure CRT ?). Or we could
p> design a simple way to access and read the data in linux (write a
p> small reporting program or use some simple database program) and
p> also have the forms printed automatically at the end of the day.
The killer question is of how "hardened" the hardware needs to be. A
furniture factory doesn't sound like as challenging an environment for
computer survival as, say, an iron smelter [heat], or a paint shop
[chemicals], or a machining shop [bits of metal in the air].
Robert> The only real isses WRT hardware will be things like NICs
Robert> (avoid the cheap NE2000s clones) and video cards (X Server
Robert> support). Most of the problems with video cards are the
Robert> bleeding edge 3D AGP cards. Since you are dealing with a
Robert> low-res B&W system and don't really need
Robert> real-time-3D-animation-role-playing-game sillyness, any common
Robert> video card will do just fine. Everything else is pretty
Robert> standardized.
Robert> For the management types, you can use a Linux server and let
Robert> the management types keep their silly winblows boxes. You can
Robert> do one of two things: set up an interface via Tcl-based CGI
Robert> scripts running on an intranet web server on the server box --
Robert> the management types just fire up netscape or (shudder) IE and
Robert> connect to the webserver (not on the live InterNet) and use
Robert> some nice friendly CGI forms. You would use the non-GUI
Robert> version of the Tcl<=>PostgreSQL package to run these scripts.
Robert> OR you can install X Server software on the winblows boxes and
Robert> have the management types login via XDM to the linux server
Robert> and use a Tcl/Tk GUI.
p> SUPPORT
p> Depending on the size of the factory, in-house linux/windows
p> support would be smart, But if it's a small company, then they
p> could call on the systems/software provider (me) for support. From
p> what I read about linux, if I design the system right, there won't
p> be to many problems. I would probably set up a service contract
p> where I would come in every month and check things out.
Robert> Yep. You might want to have the managers hire on a full time
Robert> 'office net support' guy to help them with 'silly' problems
Robert> with their winblows boxes, including answers to 'How do a do
Robert> [stupid thing] in Word?' type questions.
p> SECURITY
p> This system would not be accessible from the outside, This is a
p> lone factory (pretty rare in today's world, but let's keep things
p> simple :) Managers would have internet access, so normal virus
p> protection, and other precautions would be in place.
Robert> Right. You should have TWO networks: a factor-internal one
Robert> and firewalled one to the 'outside':
Robert> [factorynet]=======[firewall]========[public webserver and
Robert> mail server]->'net | | | | | | [factor floor | data
Robert> terminals] |====================... | | | | | [managers]
Robert> Actually, there is no reason not to have N sets of these for
Robert> companies with multiple factories. One can use SSH through
Robert> the firewall to allow *secure* communication between distant
Robert> factories. Not on a minute-by-minute basis, but things like
Robert> daily, weekly, or monthly reports. Maybe a another server at
Robert> the company HQ...
That sounds pretty sensible.
p> FORGET LINUX
p> If, for some strange reason it would be better to do this on some
p> other platform, like freeBSD, or windows 2000, please tell me.
p> Let's assume that the factory is a midsize factory (40-60 factory
p> workers, 10-12 manager/sales/etc, and that they will need about 10
p> data entry terminals, and every manager already has a windows 98
p> box.
There may be commercial "control" applications that are more readily
available on Windows, which is a challenge.
But consider that the shop floor stuff is likely to essentially
represent "embedded" systems where there would be a limited set of
mandated operations, and where you can control things in pretty
draconian manner.
In that environment, if all that's there is a touch sensitive screen
that they press on to indicate completion of procedures or movement of
materials, then they are _not_ using a "Windows PC" or a "Linux PC,"
but rather a _specialized terminal_. They're not running Word, or
Netscape, or anything of the sort, but rather just the TCL/Tk GUI that
you built for them. At which point "which OS?" is an irrelevant
issue. They shut the machine off? It reboots back into the
application, and ideally, the machines have no floppy drive or other
such distractions. It might even boot off a CD, so that upgrades
represent burning a CD and tossing that into place.
Mind you, if they machines run Linux, networked, you can ssh into them
to do any necessary administration work...
Robert> Oh, you can really blow the minds of the manager types by
Robert> getting a batch of *cheap* Axis Network cameras. Trivial to
Robert> tie into the Intranet webserver on the Linux box and the
Robert> manager types can get 'live' video of the factor floor. The
Robert> Axis Network cameras are in fact miniature Linux webservers.
Robert> Visit <http://www.axis.com/r/?keyword=2100prodpage> for
Robert> details.
All well and cool, and the fact of it running Linux is pretty
irrelevant. QNX or *BSD or WindRiver would be as effective for the
task...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: usb mass storage support
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:06:19 GMT
>>>>> "Rod" == Rod Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Rod> [Posted and mailed] In article
Rod> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Vandenheede Bjorn
Rod> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> Vandenheede Bjorn wrote:
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I would like to compile support for usb mass storage in a
>>> 2.2.18 kernel, but I'm not able to select the option. What
>>> other option do I have to select before I can select the usb
>>> mass storage option.
>>>
>> I found out on www.linux-usb.org that USB-storage is not
>> supported in the 2.2 line of kernels.
Rod> Actually, 2.2.18 adds most or all of the USB drivers from the
Rod> 2.4.x kernels. This includes mass storage devices (Zip disks,
Rod> etc.), IIRC.
Rod> Your problem is most likely caused by the fact that the USB mass
Rod> storage drivers are handled by the SCSI subsystem, so you must
Rod> first enable basic SCSI support; without that, the option is
Rod> meaningless, and so will be disabled. As a practical matter, you
Rod> also need to enable SCSI disk support (for disk devices), or
Rod> presumably CD-ROM, tape, or generic SCSI support for some
Rod> devices. I don't know if the USB mass storage option will be
Rod> unavailable if these options are disabled, though.
I picked up a USB Zip drive on the weekend, and was entirely pleased
at just how spectacularly simple it was to get it up and running
(Kernel 2.4.1).
_No_ configuration required; I plugged it in, with system live, and it
was immediately recognizable as /dev/sda.
There is probably still some upcoming "devfs" support needed for the
dynamic mapping of device names; what's there works pretty well.
I can't speak to what bits of SCSI support are absolutely needed; I
already had SCSI disk and CD support compiled in to support my CD-RW
drive, which certainly sufficed to support this...
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Setting global environment variables
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:12:14 GMT
Hi all,
Is there a way to set global environment variables? If I open up a
terminal and set them, then any program that I start outside of the
terminal (from the GUI) is unaware of them. I have bash, so I'm using
"export VARIABLE_NAME=setting". Is there some way to make this export
global?
Regards,
Mladen
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From: richard noel fell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: more help needed with changing root password
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 21:25:12 -0500
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Possibly. How do I edit /etc/shadow? The file is not readable by emacs, for instance.
Thanks again for any help,
Dick Fell
Jean-David Beyer wrote:
> richard noel fell wrote:
> >
> > Sorry to be such a bother, but this is not going as smoothly as I had hoped.
> >
> > I edited, via the rescue disk, the /etc/passwd file for my root entry to
> >
> > root::0:root:/root:/bin/bash. Now, when I reboot, when I try to log in as root, I
>am prompted for a password. Of course
> >
> > this is what I was trying to avoid in the first place. Is not my entry for root in
>etc/passwd correct to allow me
> >
> > to log on without a password?
> >
> Could your problem be that you are using shadow passwords and you
> should be editing /etc/shadow instead of /etc/passwd?
>
> --
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> /V\ Registered Machine 73926.
> /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
> ^^-^^ 3:00pm up 5 days, 22:33, 4 users, load average: 3.11, 3.18, 3.01
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Burlington, Ma 01803
(781)273-2126
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Possibly. How do I edit /etc/shadow? The file is not readable by emacs,
for instance.
<br>Thanks again for any help,
<br>Dick Fell
<br>Jean-David Beyer wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>richard noel fell wrote:
<br>>
<br>> Sorry to be such a bother, but this is not going as smoothly as I
had hoped.
<br>>
<br>> I edited, via the rescue disk, the /etc/passwd file for my root entry
to
<br>>
<br>> root::0:root:/root:/bin/bash. Now, when I reboot, when I try to log
in as root, I am prompted for a password. Of course
<br>>
<br>> this is what I was trying to avoid in the first place. Is not my
entry for root in etc/passwd correct to allow me
<br>>
<br>> to log on without a password?
<br>>
<br>Could your problem be that you are using shadow passwords and you
<br>should be editing /etc/shadow instead of /etc/passwd?
<p>--
<br> .~. Jean-David
Beyer
Registered Linux User 85642.
<br> /V\
Registered Machine 73926.
<br>/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey <a
href="http://counter.li.org">http://counter.li.org</a>
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From: Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: FTP scripting...
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 19:27:37 -0600
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Josef Moellers wrote:
> Bud Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Expect was designed to handle tasks like that.
>>
>> http://expect.nist.gov
>
> I know, but
>
> echo "machine Server" > ~/.netrc
> chmod 600 ~/.netrc
> echo "login josef" >> ~/.netrc
> echo "password mypassword" >> ~/.netrc
> echo "macdef init" >> ~/.netrc
> echo "cd /tmp" >> ~/.netrc
> echo "binary" >> ~/.netrc
> echo "put somefile.txt" >> ~/.netrc
> echo "bye" >> ~/.netrc
> ftp Server
>
> is much shorter and faster. It doesn't handle error situations
> gracefully, but then ...
No problem if that's the way you like it, but how about this:
budr@twocups:~$ autoexpect telnet localhost
autoexpect started, file is script.exp
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 twocups
twocups login: budr
Password:
Last login: Mon Feb 26 19:10:06 2001 from localhost on pts/5
Linux twocups 2.2.18pre21 #2 Sun Jan 7 20:41:02 CST 2001 i686 unknown
No mail.
budr@twocups:~$
[typical online session, could be telnet, ftp, ssh, whatever]
budr@twocups:~$ exit
logout
Connection closed by foreign host.
autoexpect done, file is script.exp
budr@twocups:~$ exit
Now script.exp is an expect script that will exactly replay that online
session from login to logout. Then you can add control statements to
alter the flow of the script, handle errors, whatever.
--
Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.sirinet.net/~budr
All things in moderation. And not too much moderation either.
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From: Aaron Kulkis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to Enforce Registration - or Else
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 20:33:07 -0500
Edward Rosten wrote:
>
> >> I disagree. What about the welfare state? Safety critical public
> >> services
> >> (eg Air traffic control*) etc?
> >>
> >>
> >> * This is more of a problem in the UK than the US since the skies are
> >> much more crowded due to a rather smaller quantity of it.
> >
> > And they're going to privatise it, despite
> >
> > a) having condemned air privatisation while in opposition,
> >
> > and
> >
> > b) having not learned a single lesson of the rail privatisation fiasco.
> >
>
> You wonder how they seem able to justify it to them selves to tell bare
> faced lies, and how they want to mindlessly presue party dogma despite
> mounting evidence that is is crazy. If it goes through, then the fisrt
> big air crash will probably see them out at the end of ofice.
>
> -Ed
So, you're saying that government ownership prevents crashes?
Spot the idiocy.
>
> --
> | u98ejr
> | @
> Share, and enjoy. | eng.ox
> | .ac.uk
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K: Truth in advertising:
Left Wing Extremists Charles Schumer and Donna Shelala,
Black Seperatist Anti-Semite Louis Farrakan,
Special Interest Sierra Club,
Anarchist Members of the ACLU
Left Wing Corporate Extremist Ted Turner
The Drunken Woman Killer Ted Kennedy
Grass Roots Pro-Gun movement,
J: Other knee_jerk reactionaries: billh, david casey, redc1c4,
The retarded sisters: Raunchy (rauni) and Anencephielle (Enielle),
also known as old hags who've hit the wall....
I: Loren Petrich's 2-week stubborn refusal to respond to the
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Loren Petrich is a COMMUNIST ***hole
H: "Having found not one single carbon monoxide leak on the entire
premises, it is my belief, and Willard concurs, that the reason
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adultery while concurrently committing adultery with Tammy Hahn.
E: Jet is not worthy of the time to compose a response until
her behavior improves.
D: Jet Silverman now follows me from newgroup to newsgroup
...despite (C) above.
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B: Jet Silverman plays the fool and spews out nonsense as a
method of sidetracking discussions which are headed in a
direction that she doesn't like.
A: The wise man is mocked by fools.
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:39:42 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting global environment variables
Mladen Gavrilovic wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a way to set global environment variables? If I open up a
> terminal and set them, then any program that I start outside of the
> terminal (from the GUI) is unaware of them. I have bash, so I'm using
> "export VARIABLE_NAME=setting". Is there some way to make this export
> global?
not at runtime AFAIK, but if you add that command to /etc/profile then it
will work for every new shell.
>
>
> Regards,
> Mladen
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Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 17:43:38 -0800
From: Noah Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: small linux distro
Major Dondo wrote:
> I need to put a small linux distro on an old laptop. I can get tom's
> disk running with network support, so all I need now is an ftp install of
> a distro that is smaller than, say 100 MB, has Xwindows (I need a
> graphical browser) and supports PCMCIA for my network card.
>
> The lap top has 24 MB of ram, and it's a 486DX4.
>
> Any suggestions welcome!
Slackware will fit, not comfortably, but it will fit....recomend you save
space by every means necissary including going with libc5 instead of
glibc....read the howto on installing linux on a zip disk for ideas of what
to install.
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From: Mladen Gavrilovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Setting global environment variables
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:50:50 GMT
>
> not at runtime AFAIK, but if you add that command to /etc/profile then it
> will work for every new shell.
>
yeah, I added it to profile already... I was just wondering if there was
a way to test it without rebooting... oh well, here I go again <click>
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Reply-To: "CH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "CH" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
alt.os.linux,alt.solaris.x86,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.aix,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.shell
Subject: Works like this in Sol2.8
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 01:54:19 GMT
Works for me in Solaris 2.8
$ cat test.sh
#!/usr/bin/ksh
let a=1
echo "test"
$ ksh -x test.sh
+ let a=1
+ echo test
test
$ ksh -x test.sh 2>&1 | tee test.txt
+ let a=1
+ echo test
test
$ cat test.txt
+ let a=1
+ echo test
test
"J.Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:1Rvm6.5860$43.28610@zonnet-reader-1...
> >
> > This does not satisfy the reqirement if I read it literally
> > because it also redirect the the stdout to the logfile.
> >
>
> Sorry if my english is a little rough around the edges, but...
>
> BOTH stdout AND stderr had to go to the logfile AND to the screen, yes.
>
> Sorry if my previous post was unclear about that.
>
> But when I try this on AIX 4.x, using ksh, like:
>
> cat thisfiledoesnotexist 2>&1 | tee -a logfile
>
> stderr still goes to the screen (the cat error message, complaining it
cant
> find the file), but *not* to the logfile...
>
> huh ?
>
> Does this mean ive found a bug... errr feature ? Or am I screwing up in
> there somehow?
>
>
>
>
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From: Roger Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: sawfish/Gnome questions
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2001 15:47:04 -1000
>There should be arrows on either side of the bar. Click them.
Actually, there are *two* horizontal menu bars that run all
the way across my display, one at the top and one at the bottom.
The one at the bottom has the control arrows you refer to, but that's
the one I want to keep. Anyway, I did figure out how to get rid of
the other one, so the problem's solved. (I apologize for my incredible
stupidity in not figuring it out before!)
However, I still have a broken theme-selector-capplet and need to
know how to hand-edit my config files to set the theme I want.
Does anyone know how to do this?
Roger Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have two questions about using sawfish and Gnome.
>
> First, is there any way to make the menu bar that sawfish draws
> across the top of the screen go away? ('Use a different window
> manager' is not the answer I am looking for, as sawfish is all
> I've got.)
>
> Second, how would I go about hand-editing any necessary config
> files in ~/.gnome or wherever to specify the use of a particular
> theme? When I try to do this the right way using the Gnome control
> center, I get the message 'Application "theme-selector-capplet" has
> crashed due to a fatal error. (Segmentation Fault)'.
>
> I have these problems because I am running Ximian's Gnome release
> on a SPARC Solaris 8 system. Nobody in the Sun newsgroups (nor anyone
> from Ximian) has been able to explain why theme-selector-capplet is
> busted, thus I'm stuck with trying to hack this mess as above. This
> is also why sawfish seems to be my only option for a window manager.
> I am trying to build enlightenment for Solaris but have had no luck
> so far.
>
--
Roger Davis
University of Hawaii/SOEST
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (orangefree89)
Subject: Re: Linux as terminal emulator.
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 02:03:19 GMT
On Sun, 25 Feb 2001 00:27:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>I've always found minicom pretty useful; essentially a "Unix version
>of Telix," for those that remember the IBM BBS days...
I loaded GNU/Linux on an old 386 (aka a doorstop), connected the 386
box through a serial cable to my Pentium box (which also runs
GNU/Linux), fired up minicom and voila -- I have a dumb terminal
hookup to my main machine so that my wife and I can work on the
computer at the same time. It works pretty well, generally, but
minicom's terminal emulation doesn't work great with screen.
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