Linux-Misc Digest #267, Volume #27 Fri, 2 Mar 01 07:13:03 EST
Contents:
Re: What Linux distribution for RISC ? (John Hasler)
Tape Drives (Fred Mulharin)
suse 7.0 or 7.1 ("Wong Ching Kuen Frederick")
Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes (Robert Herzog)
Boot problem ("Karl W. Schaefer")
Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux? ("Karl W. Schaefer")
Re: Dell 120T DLT-4000 Autoloader w/Robot - Control? ("Robert A. Matern")
Re: Linux freezes (Claus Atzenbeck)
Re: suse 7.0 or 7.1 (Eggert Ehmke)
Re: Cannot find image file?? (Eggert Ehmke)
[Q:] SuSE 7.1 and ide-scsi, loop device (Hans Heukenkamp)
Re: source for basic utils like ftp/cp/mv... where? ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :( ("Nils O. Selasdal")
Re: rc.d and redhat's setup/services ("Nils O. Sel�sdal")
Re: toshiba laptop shuts off! (Glitch)
Re: ppp error (Glitch)
Corrupted fonts after viewing binary file (Simon Andrews)
pts/x ("Guennadi V. Liakhovetski")
Re: LILO and second master hard-disk (Stanislaw Flatto)
Re: Tape Drives (Jean-David Beyer)
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From: John Hasler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: What Linux distribution for RISC ?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 04:06:27 GMT
Joel writes:
> It has a "PA-RISC Powered" badge on the case, I'm wondering if there is a
> version of Linux that will run on RISC hardware and if so which is the
> one people recommend?
Take a look at http://www.debian.org/ports/hppa/
--
John Hasler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler)
Dancing Horse Hill
Elmwood, WI
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From: Fred Mulharin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Tape Drives
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 00:42:35 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I am building a small file server on an IBM PC for a Graphics business
which would like backup support. I will be building this with Redhat
7.0.
I would appreciate some advice on the choice for a tape drive to be used
for Backup. The budget is tight (Of course).
I would like to schedule nightly backups of their data. they currently
have about 1.5 gigs of graphics being stored on windows machines with no
way to back them up. The Linux server will be running Samba, and I plan
to have all of their data stored on the Linux box.
Thanks
--
Fred Mulharin
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: suse 7.0 or 7.1
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:58:52 +0800
can i get suse 7.0 or 7.1 for free (NOT the evaluation version)?! if so,
where can i download it? thanks.
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From: Robert Herzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: http loopback taking 14 minutes
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 06:28:21 GMT
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a java app which calls httpd. Both httpd and my java app are on
> > > the same box, but I address the server with its name, i.e.
> > > http://www.nowhere.com:8080/my.jsp. I can see that "my.jsp" has
> > > finished, by its having written to a log, but may java app, which is
> > > acting as the client, does not get a response for as long as 14 minutes.
> > >
> > > What could create the delay? I can ping in 0.1ms, but this http
> > > response...
> > >
> > > - Craig
> >
> > Your name lookup is most likely timing out on one DNS server, then going
> > to the next. The lag is the timeout. You can verify this by using your
> > numeric/dotted-decimal ip address in place of "www.nowhere.com"...if
> > dotted-decimal form is fast, then it is your DNS source, whereby the
> > first one does not know the answer and takes its time getting to the
> > second source (and then maybe the third). A place to look is
> > /etc/resolv.conf, and /etc/host.conf. Be sure your /etc/hosts file is
> > searched first before DNS, and that DNS servers are listed correctly.
> > That way if "www.nowhere.com" is listed in /etc/hosts, it'll be found
> > instantly.
>
> My host.conf looks like this:
> order host,bind
> multi on
>
> My resolv.conf, like this:
> domain nowhere.com
> nameserver 172.16.0.240
> nameserver 172.16.0.241
> search nowhere.com nowhere.net
>
> and a nslookup returns (very quickly):
> # nslookup europa.nowhere.com
> Server: ns1.nowhere.com
> Address: 172.16.0.240
>
> Non-authoritative answer:
> Name: europa.nowhere.com
> Address: 172.16.0.42
>
> #
>
> Anything look wrong...
Do you realise that addresses like 172.16.0.xx are for _private_
networks, typically _not_ forwarded by routers. See Net-HOWTO �5.1.2.
No surptise that DNS servers don't answer...
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From: "Karl W. Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Boot problem
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:17:43 -0500
Ever see this???
I found that if I booted from my floppy, all was well - only difference was
the RAM specification. Upon removal, all was fine. Puzzle is, why does it
fail now and didn't before?
Uncompressing Linux... Ok, booting the kernel.
Linux version 2.2.16-22 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66
1990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release)) #1 Tue Aug 22 16:16:55 EDT 2000
Detected 550022kHz processor.
Console: colour VGA+ 80x25
Calibrating delay loop... 1097.73 BogoMIPS
Memory: 257596k/262144k available (1048k kernel code, 412k reserved, 3024k
data,
64k init, 0k bigmem)
general protection fault: 0000
CPU: 0
EIP 0010:[<c01212df>]
EFLAGS: 00010286
eax: 0000009f ebx: cffff0d8 ecx: ffffffff edx: c0505000
esi: 00000028 edi: ffffffff ebp: cfffffe0 esp: c0235f40
ds: 0018 es:0018 ss: 0018
Process swapper (pid: 0, process nr: 0, stackpage=c0235000)
Stack: c021cb40 00000282 ffffffff 00000212 00000001 00000015 00000020
00000000
c01214db c021cb40 00000015 00000000 00000020 00000000 00000000
c0120a14
c021cb40 00000015 00000000 0009b800 00000000 00000000 00000066
c0239c8a
Call Trace: [<c01214db>] [<c0120a14>] [<c01da9a0>] [<c01dc47e>]
[<c01060000>] {<c
0106000>] [<c0100175>]
Code: 89 07 8b 4c 24 10 8b 09 89 4c 24 10 83 ee 01 73 b8 c7 01 00
Kernel panic: Attempted to kill the idle task!
In swapper task - not syncing
--
Remove the obvious between and including
the underscores, and then you'll reach me :-)
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From: "Karl W. Schaefer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can I print to my LaserJet 3100 from Linux?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 02:23:30 -0500
Let me know if you ever find one please!! I have a 3100 also, however the
HP web site says "sorry kids, this one's proprietary" - - to which I say...
"The BASTARDS"
*grin*
Karl
--
Remove the obvious between and including
the underscores, and then you'll reach me :-)
"Robert MacGregor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> The answer is probably 'no' but I'll ask anyway..
>
> I have a HP LaserJet 3100 printer. Each of my workstations is currently
> running Windows 2000, and because of this, I can share this printer
> among the workstations. Printer sharing was never part of HP's goals
> with this product, apparently, because you can only share the printer
> between two computers if both of their OS's are the same (Both W2K, NT
> 4, or 9x).
>
> So, I want my own workstation to run Linux. I'd rather not buy a
> different printer just so I can print.
>
> I am assuming that if I cannot share the printer between a W2K and a 98
> box, that I definitely won't be able to share it between W2K and a Linux
> box. Hopefully I'm wrong.
>
> Is there some sort of proxy program I can run on the workstation to
> which the LJ 3100 is connected that will create a "virtual" generic
> shared printer device?
>
> Thanks for any help and suggestions!
> -R
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From: "Robert A. Matern" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.admin
Subject: Re: Dell 120T DLT-4000 Autoloader w/Robot - Control?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 03:00:39 -0500
"Dennis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:IYtn6.4757$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Oh yeah, I know the pain... the PAIN!!!
> <<SNIP>>
> What kind of crap is that?
The Gold-Plated kind... <eg>
> I hate Arkeia!
ME2!
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From: Claus Atzenbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux freezes
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:00:48 +0100
Robert Heller wrote on 1 Mar 2001 15:58:11 -0600:
> Is there anything else on the SCSI chain? What kind of termination are
> you using? Is the (external?) hard drive providing power to the
> terminator?
Yes:
Internal: SCSI CDROM burner
External: ZIP -> hard drive -> active termination
Power to the terminator is provided
Robert Heller wrote on 1 Mar 2001 15:58:17 -0600:
> Also: is the automount daemon running and does it have any reason to
> want to mount the (powered down) disk drive? Is this drive mentioned in
> /etc/fstab? If so, how?
"ps ax|grep auto" shows 2 processes:
/usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /misc file /etc/auto.misc
/usr/sbin/automount --timeout 60 /net yp auto.net
I have the following entries in /etc/fstab for my external SCSI devices:
/dev/sda /mnt/quantum reiserfs user,noauto,nosuid,exec,defaults 1 2
/dev/sdb /mnt/zip auto user,noauto,nosuid,exec,nodev 0 0
Any idea if this could cause the freeze on and off?
Thanks so much for any help!
Claus.
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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: suse 7.0 or 7.1
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:16:10 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2 Mar 2001 13:58:52 +0800, "Wong Ching Kuen Frederick"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>can i get suse 7.0 or 7.1 for free (NOT the evaluation version)?! if so,
>where can i download it? thanks.
The SuSE evaluation version is identical to the release version, the only
difference is you must get the applications from the server. You can take
the CD of some magazine and get the rest from the SuSE server. You can even
download the complete distribution (not as image, I am afraid) but then you
need some fast connection.
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Eggert Ehmke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot find image file??
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:22:39 +0100
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 01 Mar 2001 19:30:08 -0000, Dylan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have linux for windows by madrake, v 6.1. I installed it fine, but then
>when I run the program to boot into linux from windows (lnx4win.exe),
>windows shuts down, and then it says that the program (i think ldlinux)
>cannot find the image kernel file (or something like that) and it wants me
>to type in the name of it in. What do I do!!!!
Don't know lnx4win, but I guess it works like loadlin. You need a copy of
the linux kernel in your lnx4win directory. It is called vmlinuz or
something like that. Should come with the other software, check the install
instructions. If you have a file of this name in that directory, enter it
when you are asked for.
--
Eggert Ehmke
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Hans Heukenkamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q:] SuSE 7.1 and ide-scsi, loop device
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 10:29:54 +0100
Hi out there,
does anybody share my experiences with the new SuSE 7.1 distr?
i) When burning a CD-R using the ide-scsi module any access to
the ide harddrive provokes an ide bus reset (which takes up
to 20 secs). Of cource during the reset the burner runs out
of data and the CD-R is gone.
ii) Using the loop device to mount an image hangs the computer
sooner or later.
I am using kernel 2.4.2 and SuSE 7.1. The hardware is fine, I had
used SuSE 6.4. with kernel 2.4.1 before and it worked just fine.
Regards, Hans.
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: source for basic utils like ftp/cp/mv... where?
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:32:19 +0100
"Paul Kimoto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <mBFn6.853$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Harlan Grove wrote:
> > All distros using GNU utilities share the SAME source code.
>
> I don't believe there is a GNU ftp.
Ofcourse there is.
go to http://www.gnu.org and look!
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Selasdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Selasdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 1.2 Giga bytes source code - KDE 2.1, no impression. :(
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:47:21 +0100
"Try more" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hello,
>
> For 24 hours, I compiled the full KDE 2.1 source code at the bottom.
> Cause I'm using KDE 1.x right now, and wanted to see what's the KDE 2.1.
>
> To compile it, I downloaded Qt-2.2.4 source code and build it. <- 74M
Here are LOTS of .o files lying around, and maybe you dont need all the
examples/documentation. do a make clean.
> openssl-0.9.6 <- 18M
> KDE 2.1 source <- 1.2G
Where do all this come from?
I got all the sources, compiled them.. about 500MB, which should be reduced
ALOT doing a make clean, to remove all the stuff the compiler made..
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Reply-To: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Nils O. Sel�sdal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rc.d and redhat's setup/services
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 10:51:57 +0100
"Massimiliano Caovilla" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:gesn6.39832$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Is there a way to let setup list also my service in the list of services
it
> can be used to start/stop? I mean I've added a service with it's own new
> Sxxservice and Kxxservice scripts and I want setup to know about it, so I
> can disable/enable the service using its startup service feature. Maybe
> there is some configuration file I don't know about?
put your script in /etc/rc.d/init.d
and run ntsysvv ?
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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 03:47:24 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: toshiba laptop shuts off!
Major Dondo wrote:
> I have a mystery. I have a toshiba 2800 laptop, running RH 7 with a
> stock 2.2.18 kernel. I have downloaded the latest toshiba utils from
> buzzard.com.uk.
>
> When I try to load the module from buzzard, I get undefined symbols.
> When I try to use the module from the kernel surce, I get "unknown
> hardware type" when I try to use the tohibs utils.
>
> None of this would really bother me, since I can get most of what I need
> to work, except that the laptop does a hard power off after about 1 hour
> of no use.
>
> It does not shut down - it just powers off. File systems get checked,
> blah, blah, on the next boot.
>
> I have tweaked every setting I can think of - I have compiled the kernel
> with APM , w/o apm, running apmd, not running apmd, running toshutils,
> not running toshutils, and the #$%^&* still powers off when I leave it
> for any lenght of time.......
>
> Does anyone have any ideas on this?
>
> --Yan
what does /var/log/messages say? anything?
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Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 03:43:37 -0500
From: Glitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ppp error
percy wrote:
> Dear Linuxers
> i have a problem that is my linux dialin system can not receive the user's
> dialin suddenly.
> after i checked, i discover that user can not run pppd after they dial in.
> the error message is
>
> [percy@master percy]$ ppp
> /usr/sbin/pppd: must be root to run /usr/sbin/pppd, since it is not
> setuid-root
>
> the ppp is an alias(is it a problem?)
>
> i add a execute permission to
> chmod u+x /usr/sbin/pppd
> but it is not effect.
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
to fix the problem set the suid bit on /usr/sbin/pppd
chmod u+s /usr/sbin/pppd
with this non root users cant execute it
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From: Simon Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Corrupted fonts after viewing binary file
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 11:03:33 +0000
Last night my new Debian 2.2r2 box produced a strange behaviour which I
could only cure with a reboot.
Whist working in a vga bash shell I accidentally "more"d a binary file
(I think it was boot.map). For some reason this caused the screen font
for that shell to become corrupted. I could still type, and the
commands were recognised, but the font just showed non-ascii characters.
None of my other shells were affected, so I tried killing the broken
shell, but this still left the corrupted font. Logging out of the
broken shell just left a login prompt made out of strange letters. To
confuse things even more, only the lowercase font was affected,
uppercase characters seemed to be printed fine.
In the end I gave up and rebooted which cured it, but was there
something else I could try to reset this shell (as this is something I
may well do again!)?
TTFN
Simon.
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From: "Guennadi V. Liakhovetski" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: pts/x
Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 11:08:44 +0000
Hi everybody
I recently had problems with pts/x's and the 'who' command behaviour -
after an xterm (rxvt to be precise) crash who would show an extra line
without any process (ps -ef) associated to that pts/x. After some digging
I figured out that who takes its info from /var/run/wtmp, and all you have
to do (maybe there's a cleaner way - dunno, sessreg didn't help) is remove
the file and repeat the sequence of commands associated with it from
/etc/boot! Now everything works once again, and I am quite happy I learned
one more thing about Linux:-) But - while testing, I noticed - pts/x do
not get allocated in order... I.e., when, having only pts/1 I opened
another session, it was assigned pts/3 - not pts/2... I thought first -
something still was wrong, but I checked another computer - the same
behaviour... So, does anybody know why and how these numbers get
allocated?
Thanks
Guennadi
___
Dr. Guennadi V. Liakhovetski
Department of Applied Mathematics
University of Sheffield, U.K.
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LILO and second master hard-disk
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 22:59:54 +1100
Mathias Rodenstein wrote:
> ...
> > other=/dev/hdc1
> > label=dos
> > #table=/dev/hdc
> map-drive=0x80
> to=0x81
> map-drive=0x81
> to=0x80
If you want to give numbers better check.
the hex numbering of drives is:
Master on primary controller hda = 0x80
Slave on primary controller hdb = 0x81
Master on secondary controller hdc = 0x82
Slave on secondary controller hdd = 0x83
When you want to cheat the system into believing that your hdc is now primary
you write:
map-drive = 0x80
to = 0x82
map-drive = 0x82
to = 0x80
>
> the problem is that windows always wants to be the first (primary master)
>
This will do it.
> regards, M
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Tape Drives
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 2001 07:04:43 -0500
Fred Mulharin wrote:
>
> I am building a small file server on an IBM PC for a Graphics business
> which would like backup support. I will be building this with Redhat
> 7.0.
> I would appreciate some advice on the choice for a tape drive to be used
> for Backup. The budget is tight (Of course).
I have used both a cheap Travan-type tape drive on floppy controller
and a more expensive DDS-2 tape drive on a narrow SCSI controller. I
believe I paid retail prices for both drives and that the cheap drive
and controller was about $200 and the expensive drive and controller
was about $800.
The cheap drive could write up to 1.5 gigabytes to a tape casette
compressed, and the expensive drive can write up to 8 gigabytes to a
tape casette compressed. The cheap drive's casettes cost about $30
each in lots of 5. The expensive drive's casettes cost a bit over
$8.00 in lots of 10.
The cheap drive is now out of service because it is no longer
available, and the newer ones cost almost as much as the DDS-2 drive.
Furthermore, I am told they will not read my old backups anyway.
(Newer Travan-type drives have much more capacity than the older ones
did.) I have had the DDS-2 drive (from HP) for about a year and it
seems OK. It is much faster than the old one. I can backup about 4
Gigabytes in about 2 hours 20 minutes (and this includes reading it
all back to see if the backup really worked). The old drive took more
time to backup less data.
I now backup the stuff on the machine with the broken Travan drive
onto the DDS-2 drive through my LAN that links the two machines.
So you will have to determine which budget is more tight: the initial
capital acquisition cost budget, or the long-term supplies and
maintenance budget.
>
> I would like to schedule nightly backups of their data. they currently
> have about 1.5 gigs of graphics being stored on windows machines with no
> way to back them up. The Linux server will be running Samba, and I plan
> to have all of their data stored on the Linux box.
>
Nightly backup is no problem. I used to use a combination of find and
cpio commands to do the backups from a shell script run by cron. I now
use BRU instead of find and cpio, but if money is a consideration, I
suggest just going with find and cpio.
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 6:55am up 3 days, 14:53, 3 users, load average: 0.05, 0.09, 0.02
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