Linux-Misc Digest #432, Volume #27 Sat, 24 Mar 01 00:13:02 EST
Contents:
dwonload email headers only (Charles Jager)
LUG: Looking for speakers (William Kendrick)
Re: Indrema article in NextGen (William Kendrick)
Re: ALSA problems (Peter Petersen)
Re: dwonload email headers only (Michael Heiming)
Re: MGA400 + DRI in XFree 4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: fopen error (Joe)
Re: Sendmail problems (David Efflandt)
Re: Server for chat (David Efflandt)
Re: Swiching between Linux and Windows (arasu)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Hun)
Re: Weird(?) magic word for sh to invoke perl under Linux (Alan Barclay)
Re: Weird(?) magic word for sh to invoke perl under Linux (Alan Barclay)
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Hun)
Shutdown permissions (Steve Smith)
Re: file manager problem ("Robert")
Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE! (Carl Fink)
Freecom & similar cdrw alternative interfaces? (David Efflandt)
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From: Charles Jager <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dwonload email headers only
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 19:41:55 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
does anyone know of an email program that will let me download just
the message headers and then decide which messages I actually want to
download to my machine and which ones I want to delete from the
server?
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LUG: Looking for speakers
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:35:32 GMT
The Linux Users' Group of Davis, which holds meetings twice a month in
Davis, California (the home of UC Davis; near Sacramento), are always
looking for people or companies willing to do talks and demonstrations
at our meetings.
If you are in northern California (or can easily make it here), and would
like to present, please contact me:
Bill Kendrick
LUGOD Chairperson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Our meetings are held in the evening on the 1st Tuesday & 3rd Monday of
each month. LUGOD has approx. 175 official "members" and a typical
meeting attendance of between 25 and 50 people, depending on the topic and
time of year.
For details on... see...
LUGOD in General http://www.lugod.org/
How to get to our meetings http://www.lugod.org/meeting/zworld/
Our meeting facility's specs: http://www.lugod.org/meeting/facilities/
What meetings are booked: http://www.lugod.org/meeting/upcoming/
And if you're curious about... see...
The kinds of members we have http://www.lugod.org/members/
What topics we've had previously http://www.lugod.org/meeting/past/
What topics we'd LIKE to see http://www.lugod.org/meeting/wishlist/
Other things LUGOD does http://www.lugod.org/projects/
Thanks in advance!
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
Linux Users' Group of Davis
"Twice a month, and then some!"
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Indrema article in NextGen
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.advocacy
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 00:38:28 GMT
In comp.os.linux.advocacy William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: The latest issue (April 2001; to hit store shelves soon) of
: Next Generation magazine (aka "NextGen") has an 8 page special feature
: on the Indrema game console.
I've taken some photos of the slick new design of the Indrema L600
(mmm... chrome), and place them on my website:
http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/bill/indrema/gallery/
I apologize for the cruddy quality. I have yet to set up my scanner. :^/
-bill!
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From: Peter Petersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ALSA problems
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:39:29 +0100
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001 20:22:44 GMT, Bart Friederichs
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Did you insmod the OSS compatibility modules? I have the same card
>(onboard) and that was a problem in my case. Im using 2.2.16 however,
>not tried sound in 2.4.x yet.
>
>Bart
Hello!
Yes, oss emulation *is* enabled.
I didn't have those problems with 2.2.14, it just began with this kernel
2.4.2.
- Do you have midi (without timidity)?
- If you happen to be a gamer, do you have sound in quake1/2/3?
Regards
Peter
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Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:50:03 +0100
From: Michael Heiming <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dwonload email headers only
Charles Jager wrote:
>
> does anyone know of an email program that will let me download just
> the message headers and then decide which messages I actually want to
> download to my machine and which ones I want to delete from the
> server?
There is a small perl script called poppy available,
search freashmet.net.
Michael Heiming
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: MGA400 + DRI in XFree 4
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:18:49 GMT
Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> is anyone using MGA400 with DRI support ?
Many people.
Adam
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From: Joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fopen error
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 01:30:09 -0000
> permissions and ownership, of course
> for the file and the directory if you're trying to create.
> Then there's the question of space:
> is the filesystem where you're writing full? (df).
I have tried all different combinations on the directories and there is
plenty of space on all disks...I have done appox. 15 scripts that had this
error and they have been with 5 different domains (on the same server).
Thank you for your responses!
Joe
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Sendmail problems
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:31:39 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001, Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Can anyone help me to get my local email fixed ?
>
>My send mail configuration is as far working as I can send mail...
>
>Then I use fetch mail (the configuration is without errors, it worked
>right before) but send mail seems not to accept fetched mails anymore,
>and leaves them on POP server... I generated sendmail.cf by a m4 macro
>file, which definitely should work... it did actually before, long
>ago..
Is sendmail running as a daemon, and does it start during boot
without any pauses or errors? If it pauses for a minute or two, you have
a problem with your /etc/hosts (sendmail cannot find an IP for your
hostname). If you do not have a network interface, use an extra loopback
IP for your hostname (like 127.0.0.2).
Do you have your ~/.fetchmailrc properly configured to get mail as the
username on your ISP and pass it off as your local username? Like:
poll mail.myisp.com with proto POP3
user "george" there with password "xxxxxx" is bob here
>In my inetd.conf I configured POP3 locally, I believe, I need this, to
>have send mail accepting mails from outside... still it doesn't work...
POP3 has nothing to do with sendmail, other than accessing the same
delivered mail files (/var/spool/mail/username). You don't need it if you
use something like 'pine' locally.
>Do I need to update aliases.db ? If there has been any changes ? I
>still believed, it's not necessary, because, aliases is used to
>forward mail.... well, the mail I want to fetch from external pop3,
>has a different name/domain in email-address than that my local is.
The different remote and local usernames should be in your .fetchmailrc
>What exactly is mailertable used for ? The file is in my configuration
>empty...
Not sure, I don't use it.
>Does anyone think he can give me a hint.. I no there might so many
>reasons why it is not working.... but hopefully someone can tell me :)
Check /var/log for a file like maillog or mail.log for any errors.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Server for chat
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 02:36:30 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 23 Mar 2001,, Luca SIMONETTI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi everybody,
>I'm looking for a sw to setup a chat server under Linux Red Hat.
>Does anybody know about it?
Do you mean irc? I played around with various ones and the the only ircd
and channel services I could get to cooperate was hybrid ircd and related
hybrid services. Unfortunately I do not know where I found these and it
is difficult to find them with a web search. I could get other ircd's to
work with an eggdrop bot, just not with any sort of channel services.
Maybe you want to try an irc newsgroup.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/ http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/
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From: arasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Swiching between Linux and Windows
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 12:45:26 +1000
Jeremiah DeWitt Weiner wrote:
> arasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have Linux Redhat and Windows 98 on the same computer in two
> > different hardisks.
> > I wish to switch over from Linux to Windows98,
>
> You can't. You can run Windows in an emulator or virtual machine,
> but you can't completely switch over (without rebooting, of course).
>
> > and Windows to Linux wihout shut down or log out.
>
> There is a utility for Windows called loadlin. It can launch a
> Linux boot sequence from DOS/Windows - look for documentation on it.
>
> JDW
I tried to get information on loadlin in Windows. but couldn't. Could you pl.
inform,
where and how exactly look for loadlin. thanks again.
-arasu
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hun)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 03:19:58 GMT
If you consider only the web browser, Yeah! still there is no Web browser like IE.
Especailly, when you visit M$ friendly web site.
I use Netscape 4.75 well, as I use it more and more it makes me crazy.
I definetely buy a commercial web browser if it's working nice like IE and good
performance.
I use only Netscape for browsing document. For other stuff, I use each program case by
case.
Mail client: Mutt
Newsreader: slrn
Text web browser: lynx, w3m.
I've spent some times to learn basic functions of these programs but after that it's
very stable, fast and comfortable. :)
Netscape is really memory sucker. I won't use Mozilla too cause it's slow down the
system very quickly. I wonder if I use 1GB Ram, how long it takes for Netscape or
Mozilla sucks the memory and start to use swap memory.
X Window consumes lots of memory too! but, it's hardly crash compraed with Netscape. :)
More than 50 processes are running on my Linux workstation in average. I couldn't
imagine running many programs without shutdown while I was using Microsoft Windows.
Linux gives me stable and comfortable working environment. So, if you consider one
specific part, for example like web browser or nice office suite such as MS Office you
should better keep using Microsoft Windows at this moment.
I hopefully believe there will be nice applications which graps Microsoft Windows'
users. I wonder what is the nice application?
On Sun, 11 Mar 2001 10:06:21 +1300, Steve Withers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape.
>
>I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel
>2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.
>
>I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape craps
>out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST often
>with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to a
>mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I see
>about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?
>
>I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
>Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....
>
>MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(
>
>--
> Regards,
>
> Steve Withers
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Registered Linux user #24688
> http://counter.li.org
>
> "First, they ignore you. Then they
> laugh at you. Then they fight you.
> Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Barclay)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Weird(?) magic word for sh to invoke perl under Linux
Date: 24 Mar 2001 02:37:03 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Benjamin Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> People putting . in their PATH will be bitten sooner or later anyway.
>
>What, even if they have it as the very last thing in their path?
>
>I'd like to see someone exploit that.
Exploiter create a program called sl
User means to type ls, but fingers slip, and she types sl instead
sl script starts a 'rm -r / > /dev/null &', then calls ls
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alan Barclay)
Crossposted-To: comp.unix.shell,comp.lang.perl.misc
Subject: Re: Weird(?) magic word for sh to invoke perl under Linux
Date: 24 Mar 2001 02:37:30 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Benjamin Goldberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> People putting . in their PATH will be bitten sooner or later anyway.
>
>What, even if they have it as the very last thing in their path?
>
>I'd like to see someone exploit that.
Exploiter creates a program called sl
User means to type ls, but fingers slip, and she types sl instead
sl script starts a 'rm -r / 2> /dev/null &', then calls ls
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hun)
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 03:41:27 GMT
There are web sites which built-in only Microsoft products.
In worse case, they just say in front of the homepage
"You should use IE to see our web site" something like that. :(
In such site, other browser just fails to access or show bad quaility page.
On 11 Mar 2001 08:02:28 -0600, Robert Heller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> In a message on Sun, 11 Mar 2001 08:10:23 -0500, wrote :
>
>R> I wonder how much of this "onderful pag rendering" is because you are
>R> viewing pages written by a Microsoft app for a microsoft app.
>
>Yeah, I think this might be the case -- I have encountered a number of
>truly horrible web sites and can practically tell just by looking at
>them that they are FrontPage abominations.
>
>There are some things that IE 'supports' that are really bad:
>
>It supports *Microsoft's* special characters. I regularly see web
>pages that *seem* to use '?' instead of ''' -- there seems to be some
>Microsoft idea that wants to avoid the ASCII code 39 in favor of some
>128+ code.
>
>There is an ISP or free webpage hosting service that started to 'ban'
>pages that were broken in Netscape. The owner/operator of the service
>had gotten some complaints about the web pages on his server. He has an
>'example' web site that totally does not work under Netscape, not
>because Netscape is broken, but because the website uses non-standard
>things most (all?) of which have no chance of ever passing the WWW standards
>body:
>
>A BMP background image.
>The use of '\' in an URL (instead of '/').
>Heavy use of 'Microsoft' characters (instead of proper ASCII characters
>or 'standard' &xxx; codes).
>
>This page really looks *bad* with netscape.
>
>(And no, I cannot find this site off the top of my head. I *think* I
>got a pointer to it from www.memepool.com, but I am not sure.)
>
>There are about 6-8 things that IE 'supports' that are non-standard
>(Microsoft specific). In fact, some if these things even break IE on
>MacOS! The 'defenders' of IE claim that IE supports the 'standard'
>more closely than Netscape. Yes, Netscape has support for a bunch of
>'non standard' extensions, but when Netscape does this it follows the
>conventional tag usage. IE supports 'extensions' that are NOT tag based
>that *no* other browser can simply ignore and still do a sane job of
>rendering. IE's extensions are such that will either crash another
>browser (in a few cases) or are geared to cause the non-IE browser to
>badly render the page.
>
>R>
>R> "Robert L. Cochran Jr." wrote:
>R> >
>R> > I have to agree, Netscape 4.x (on any platform) is a badly broken
>R> > product. In Linux, you can't really get the beautiful page renderings
>R> > that Internet Explorer does. There is no browser anywhere near as good
>R> > as Internet Explorer. My nonprogrammer wife comments that Netscape just
>R> > doesn't render pages nicely and she prefers Microsoft Windows 9x simply
>R> > because she gets Internet Explorer.
>R> >
>R> > Soon, people will talk about a "Netscape job" to mean "poor quality
>R> > work".
>R> >
>R> > --
>R> >
>R> > Bob Cochran
>R> > I am a student of Linux, Java, database and web development.
>R> >
>R> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>R> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>R> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>R> >
>R> > Steve Withers wrote:
>R> > >
>R> > > If anything is going to drive me back to Windowss it is *&%^$ Netscape.
>R> > >
>R> > > I have both V6.0 and v4.75 installed on my RH Linux 7.0 system (kernel
>R> > > 2.4.1) and they are both....in a word...SHIT.
>R> > >
>R> > > I have "kill-9" permanently in my command line buffer.....Netscape craps
>R> > > out usually within 10-15 minutes of active use. What happens MOST often
>R> > > with Netscape 6.0 is that links cease to be active. Nothing reacts to a
>R> > > mouse click. It may aswell have crashed....and when I do a PS-A...I see
>R> > > about 20 Java VMs all stacked up. Eh?
>R> > >
>R> > > I need Java support.......so do I have any options? Opera? Konqueror?
>R> > > Haven't tried either recently....tried Opera like 3 years ago.....
>R> > >
>R> > > MS Explorer is starting to look good to me..... :-(
>R> > >
>R> > > --
>R> > > Regards,
>R> > >
>R> > > Steve Withers
>R> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>R> > > Registered Linux user #24688
>R> > > http://counter.li.org
>R> > >
>R> > > "First, they ignore you. Then they
>R> > > laugh at you. Then they fight you.
>R> > > Then you win." Mahatma Ghandi
>R>
>R> --
>R> Rick
>R>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>--
> \/
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From: Steve Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Shutdown permissions
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 21:15:08 -0700
We have a standalone PC at home running both Suse 7.1 Linux and Windows
ME. We use KDE on Linux, with the default graphical login manager.
Since this is at home, it would be nice if pushing the "shutdown" button
on the graphical login manager would allow anyone to shut the machine
down. Unfortunately, I can't figure out how to do this. Pushing this
button requires entering the root password before shutdown will occur.
/etc/shutdown.allow sounded like a good possibility, but it doesn't seem
to do
the job. The man page implies that you have to be logged in and have
permission in the shutdown.allow file. No one is logged in when the
graphical login manager is up.
Any suggestions of what to do or what to read to figure this out will be
greatly appreciated.
Steve Smith
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From: "Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: file manager problem
Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2001 23:19:02 -0500
Thanks for the link, I'll have a look. Still would like to understand what
is going on with xwc though.
all the best,
Robert
"mari-k" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> In article <DGmu6.492$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Robert"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > Hello again,
> > I'm having a problem with the xwc file manager- now I can only use it
> > as root. (has been working just fine before this) I tried
> > uninstalling, logging out, reinstalling, logging out -- but still
> > situation is the same. Removed an alias I had created in .bashrc
> > thinking it might have something to do with it- still no go. Tried
> > changing the ownership to user, then even tried changing it to -r-w-x
> > by all-- no help. I have recently installing the sun 1.3 java sdk and
> > several java ide's-- can't think of anything else I might have done.
> > All other file manager working as expected but I prefer xwc. Running
> > Gnome,Mandrake 7.2, sawfish. Pent 11 400mghz 128 ram.
> > Any suggestions of where to look for possible answers? many thanks,
> > Robert
> > (remove "Spamfree" when replying)
> >
>
> Just get the best filemanager in the whole universe:
>
> http://www.cd.chalmers.se/~hch/filerunner.html
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Carl Fink)
Subject: Re: A Better Web Browser...PLEASE!
Date: 24 Mar 2001 04:03:27 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001 03:41:27 GMT Hun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>There are web sites which built-in only Microsoft products.
>In worse case, they just say in front of the homepage
>"You should use IE to see our web site" something like that. :(
I always point these folks to www.anybrowser.org. Some (not all) web
admins actually can be taught the original principle behind the web:
that the server should worry about *content* and let the client worry
about *formatting*.
--
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I-Con's Science and Technology Programming
<http://www.iconsf.org/>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Freecom & similar cdrw alternative interfaces?
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 04:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I have a VST USB CD-R/W which appears to be same as the Freecom Traveller
II (same mfr and product ID in usb-storage), also sold as Philips 464
CDRW. So far USB support is minimal. There is a Freecom support option
for usb-storage, but no docs. SuSE 7.1, kernel 2.4.0 or 2.4.2.
I can mount scd# as cdrom and read dirs and small files, but it hangs on
larger files. Writing has also been unsuccessful. cdrdao disk-info
works, but read-toc or simulating a write with cdrdao or cdrecord hangs.
In any case, when it hangs, the program accessing the cd (less, cp, etc.)
becomes an unkillable daemon in a race condition (load ave. keeps rising).
Details at http://www.de-srv.com/linux/vst-cd.html
Although, VST only lists IEEE 1394 cable as an option, Freecom also lists
parallel port and pc card adapters (also cardbus, but not shown on
website). I was wondering if anyone had any success using USB or one of
these other interfaces for this drive, especially cd writing?
There is a paraide driver for Freecom (frpw), but it just mentions cdrom
and not writing. If that works, it would also enable me to access it on
my main PC which does not have USB.
--
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