Linux-Misc Digest #550, Volume #27 Sat, 7 Apr 01 10:13:02 EDT
Contents:
Re: Suse 7.1 : which compiler ("Glitch")
Re: Looking for West Virginian Linux user ("Glitch")
Re: Netscape 4.76 problem... ("Glitch")
Re: rlogin: connection closed ! ("Ian Ellis")
Small Linux Dist. + GUI? ("Dom. Orchard")
Re: Disk thrashing -- possible memory issue? RH7. (Jean-David Beyer)
LOCAL: Blender 3D Modeling Tool Demo, Davis CA (William Kendrick)
Re: text editor (Stanislaw Flatto)
LOCAL: Davis Game Design Club - Agenda PDA / Atari Lynx - April 14th (William
Kendrick)
Printing Graphic files (Umbubvu)
Copying a CD?? (Robert Schweikert)
quicktim movie converter (Rick)
fetchmail hangs ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: Disk thrashing and other issues (new post, much more information) (Dances With
Crows)
Re: LS_COLORS + more on bash?? (Chiefy)
Re: Copying a CD?? (Dances With Crows)
Re: Small Linux Dist. + GUI? (Chiefy)
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Suse 7.1 : which compiler
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:41:32 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Zhero Man"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> �crivait/wrote:
>
>>Zhero Man wrote:
>>>
>>> Can anyone tell me which compiler Suse 7.1 is using?
>>>
>> > gcc -v
>>Reading specs from /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-suse-linux/2.95.2/specs gcc
>>version 2.95.2 19991024 (release)
>
> And that's 7.1, I suppose. So Suse is sticking to the standard compiler
> and not branching off with its own.
>
uh, i don't think any of them have a reason to go into such a complex
project as making their own compiler. That's sort of along the lines of
being a job for a separate project group (like KDE).
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Looking for West Virginian Linux user
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:45:04 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Martin Christensen"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Howdy!
>
> I've been searching the web wide and far for just about any Linux user
> situated in West Virginia, but all the E-mail addresses I've managed to
> uncover are no longer valid, nor can I find any active LUGs. So I turn
> to this NG in hope of assistance.
>
I live in northern wv. Beckley is about 5.5 hours from me.
> Mission: I wish to demonstrate Linux to a friend who lives in Beckley,
> WV, but living in Europe makes the task somewhat difficult for me to
> accomplish in person. I was hoping to find someone who is able and
> willing to do this demonstration. If anyone would help me find an
active
depends on what you mean by 'demonstration'
> LUG or somebody who would show the weird and wonderful world of Linux
> I'd greatly appreciate it.
>
I believe there is a LUG is Clarksburg which is about 2-2.5 hours south
of me, so maybe halfway between me and Beckley. I don't have the URL
anymore but I believe I found it by going to linux.org and looking for
the list of LUGs on their site and eventually finding the list for WV.
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From: "Glitch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Netscape 4.76 problem...
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:49:39 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Bill Thompson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Whenever I set up Netscape 4.76 for additional news servers and selected
> news groups, they no longer exist when reloading Netscape. My ISP's news
> server is the default news server. It remains but not selected news
> groups.
>
if you end up trying out Pan you will probably need to upgrade your glib
and gtk libs. That's what I had to do but it depends on the distro you
are using (newer distros probably include newer versions of the libs).
If u need help doing all that let me know. I did the process 2 times,
once on this computer and once on my laptop. No major trouble on either
one (mostly since both were using suse 6.3)
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From: "Ian Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: rlogin: connection closed !
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 11:49:33 +0100
Hi,
I resorted to changing the pam file /etc/pam.d/rsh, replacing the 'required'
clause of each 'auth' line with 'optional'
Opens as big security hole - but never mind (the firewall should protect me
....)
Cheers
Ian
"Gary J. Artim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Help anyone,
> I am trying to use rsh program (a decision made long before I got here)
> to change users without using passords on the same system.
> I"m running linux 6.2 redhat and added entries in /etc/hosts.equiv like:
> myhost myid
> result is:
> [gary@hale ~]# /usr/bin/rsh localhost -l dkuc
> rlogin: connection closed.
>
> any suggestions would be greatly appriciated. I've done this on
> sun/hp's/freebsd
> systems. Du! what's up with linux or is it me? Much thank for any
> advise,
>
> Gary
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From: "Dom. Orchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Small Linux Dist. + GUI?
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:23:51 +0100
There are many good Linux distsributions that boot off one or two floopy
disks (such as LOAF, FD Linux.etc.), but are there any that have GUIs, and
that are not just command line systems?
Only a simple GUI (so that it is only on a few disk), and not on loads of
disks as I don't have much memory (8 Mb).
Dom. Orchard
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From: Jean-David Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disk thrashing -- possible memory issue? RH7.
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 07:44:14 -0400
Melvyn Walker wrote:
>
> JNJ wrote:
>
> > > Elaborate on "thrashing". As in what/when/how.
> >
> > 1) Hard drive
> >
> > 2) Especially prevalent right after I start Netscape (which pretty much does
> > not come up unless I leave the room for a long while) but I've seen it after
> > using the system a while as well.
> >
> > 3) Not sure there is a "how" answer short of going into drive mechanics.
> > (????)
> >
> > Bearing in mind the fact that, as I said, I'm a bit new to Linux, I'm afraid
> > I really do not know where to start troubleshooting this one or really even
> > where to begin describing the issue in detail. It has also been suggested
> > that Linux may not be using the full capacity of the memory.
> >
> > James
>
> James,
> just wondered if you have confirmed that netscape is the culprit
> i.e have you t
> tried using the command "top" when the machine is thrashing - it gives a list
> of
> the most cpu-intensive processes.
>
Would top show anything useful here? If it is thrashing, Netscape
would not be using much cpu time; it would be waiting for IO. BTW, top
can list the most memory-intensive programs instead by typing "M"
(without the quotes) to it.
Let us ask a few questions first:
How much memory does the O.P. have on his machine? If less than 64
Megabytes, he can expect trouble with a program like Netscape (more
trouble, that is, than with more memory).
How much swap space does the O.P. have for his machine? Is it a file
or a partition?
Does he run any other program(s) using a lot of memory at the same
time?
--
.~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642.
/V\ Registered Machine 73926.
/( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org
^^-^^ 7:40am up 5 days, 14:30, 4 users, load average: 3.07, 3.08, 2.91
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOCAL: Blender 3D Modeling Tool Demo, Davis CA
Crossposted-To: comp.graphics.rendering.raytracing,ucd.general,ucd.life,ucd.cs.club
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 11:50:10 GMT
LUGOD, The Linux Users' Group of Davis, will hold its next meeting on:
Monday
April 16, 2001
6:30pm - 9:30pm
The meeting will be held at:
Z-World, Inc.
2900 Spafford Street
Davis, CA 95616
The topic will be:
Blender
presented by Mark K. Kim
Blender is a high-quality 3D modeling, rendering and animation tool
that is available for Windows, Linux, and other operating systems.
Some excellent examples of what can be done with Blender include:
http://www.blender.nl/gallery/images/doogieducati.jpg
http://www.blender.nl/gallery/images/bottes.jpg
Blender is a free program. Mark will discuss how to get started
using this excellent tool.
For details on this meeting, maps, directions, public transportation
schedules, etc., visit:
http://www.lugod.org/meeting/
LUGOD is a non-profit organization dedicated to the Linux Operating System,
and which holds meetings twice a month in Davis, CA.
Meetings are always free, and open to the public.
Please visit our website for details:
http://www.lugod.org/
-bill!
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.lugod.org/
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From: Stanislaw Flatto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: text editor
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 22:22:26 +1000
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:11:10 +0200, "Martijn"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The most simple approach for my use is Midnight Commander.
> Just type "mc" and [enter} to run it. To edit a file, highlight it
> and press F4. To save: F2, and to quit, F10.
And which editor does your mc use???
It can be configured to use anyone.
>
> About as basic as it gets, but if all you want to do is edit a few
> lines in a file, this is my preference.
this whole thread shows that in the end YOU can choose what you want.
Stanislaw.
Slack user from Ulladulla.
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From: William Kendrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: LOCAL: Davis Game Design Club - Agenda PDA / Atari Lynx - April 14th
Crossposted-To:
ucd.cs.club,ucd.cs.programming,ucd.life,alt.games.lynx,comp.sys.palmtops
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 12:16:21 GMT
The Davis Game Design Club (DGDC) will be meeting:
Saturday
April 14, 2001
12:00pm - 2:00pm
The meeting will be held at:
Steve's Place Pizza
314 F Street
Davis, CA 95616
Topic:
There is no set topic. There will be summaries of members have been
working on, and a general discussion of video games and the gaming
industry.
Toys:
Bill Kendrick will be bringing his new Linux-based Agenda VR3 PDA to
demonstrate "Aliens," a game he's created for it.
We will also have as a pair of Atari Lynx handheld game systems there
for people to play on.
DGDC meetings are always free, and open to the public!
For more information, visit DGDC's website:
http://dgdc.clued.org/
-bill!
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Umbubvu)
Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:05:26 GMT
Subject: Printing Graphic files
Hi,
I need some help on printing graphic files from a RH 6.2 server.
I have a bunch of small graphic files (EAN barcode) in png and gif format that
I want to print out on a HP LaserJet 2100 without Postscript support. The
printing will be controlled by either a Perl or Shell scipt, so I am looking
for a lpr-type of command or utility for sending graphic files to the printer.
Does any one know of such command or a way to handle this? many thanks.
-umb
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From: Robert Schweikert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Copying a CD??
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:06:37 -0400
How do I copy a bootable CD-ROM such that when I write the copied image
to CD the new CD is bootable as well?
Any help is appreciated, pointers to doc are welcome.
Thanks,
Robert
--
Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU
[EMAIL PROTECTED] LINUX
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From: Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc
Subject: quicktim movie converter
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:43:22 -0400
Does anyone know of an app that will convert quicktime movies to
something playable in Linux?
Preferably something that will compile (or has rpms) on both ppc and
intel?
Also, is there anthing that allows viewing of streaming quicktime?
Any and all help appreciated.
--
Rick
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: fetchmail hangs
Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:45:59 -0500
Why is fetchmail hanging? I've suddenly lost the ability to retrieve my
email. What I'm getting instead is:
~/tmp $ fetchmail -v -u shmartonak pop3.ticnet.com
Enter password for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
fetchmail: 4.1.1 querying pop3.ticnet.com (protocol auto) at Sat Apr 7 07:56:40
2001
fetchmail: 4.1.1 querying pop3.ticnet.com (protocol IMAP) at Sat Apr 7 07:56:40
2001
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK Courier-IMAP ready. Copyright 1998-2000 Double Precision,
Inc. See COPYING for distribution information.
fetchmail: IMAP> a0001 LOGIN shmartonak "*"
fetchmail: IMAP< a0001 OK LOGIN Ok.
fetchmail: IMAP> a0002 CAPABILITY
fetchmail: IMAP< * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 NAMESPACE THREAD-ORDEREDSUBJECT SORT
fetchmail: Protocol identified as IMAP4 rev 1
fetchmail: selecting default folder
fetchmail: IMAP> a0003 SELECT INBOX
fetchmail: IMAP< a0002 OK CAPABILITY completed
fetchmail: IMAP< * FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Recent)
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen)] Limited
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 EXISTS
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 RECENT
fetchmail: IMAP< * OK [UIDVALIDITY 986648124]
fetchmail: IMAP< a0003 OK [READ-WRITE] Ok
fetchmail: 1 message at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
fetchmail: IMAP> a0004 FETCH 1 FLAGS
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (FLAGS (\Recent))
fetchmail: IMAP< a0004 OK FETCH completed.
fetchmail: IMAP> a0005 FETCH 1 RFC822.HEADER
fetchmail: IMAP< * 1 FETCH (RFC822.HEADER {840}
reading message 1 of 1 (840 header bytes)
and then if just hangs.
What really puzzles me is that if I reboot into Windows, I'm able to
retrieve the message(s) without any problem.
I've made no config changes at my end. Yesterday things worked. Last
night they quit working. That it still works under Windows makes me
believe there's something I can do to get it working under linux again.
Any help or ideas would be appreciate.
Steve
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Disk thrashing and other issues (new post, much more information)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:53:07 GMT
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 23:40:16 -0400, JNJ staggered into the Black Sun and said:
>Ok, I caught a little hell about not giving enough information, so let me
>try a bit more. :)
>I've grabbed my /var/log/messages file -- hopefully this will better assist
>in reviewing the issue. You'll note that I am also experiencing sound card
>issues (AC97 on a Gigabyte ZX-1 motherboard) as well as some other minor
>hardware related issues. I'm running RedHat 7 on an Athlon Thunderbird
>800MHz CPU, originally had 320M RAM and I've bumped up to 512M. I have
[snpi]
>Apr 6 23:24:03 localhost kernel: Memory: 63504k/66556k available (1048k
Oh, really? Looks to me like there's about 64M available.... Your BIOS
is reporting the memory size in a screwy way; boot with
LILO: linux mem=512M
instead of what you normally type, and edit /etc/lilo.conf so that the
line
append="mem=512M"
is present above the first image= line, then rerun lilo.
It's really odd that you didn't notice this using any of the system
information tools, and even with "only" 64M, Netscape
isn't such a bloated sack that it takes 10 minutes to do anything.
There may be another problem--did you make a swap partition of any size
at all? You generally want one, even if you have a large amount of RAM,
for various reasons. It helps performance when the system can shuffle
unused processes from RAM to swapspace, for one. 128M would probably do
you just fine; either make a swap partition or do:
dd if=/dev/zero of=/swapfile bs=1M count=128
sync && sync
mkswap /swapfile
swapon /swapfile
and add /swapfile to your /etc/fstab .
[massive snip]
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: usb.c: This device is not recognized by
>any installed USB driver.
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: hub.c: already running port 1 disabled by
>hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB new device connect, assigned
>device number 2
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: usb.c: This device is not recognized by
>any installed USB driver.
OK, what's up with that? I wouldn't worry about that unless you have
any USB devices you Can't Live Without, but upgrade your kernel from
whatever RH shipped to 2.2.18 anyway...
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: rtl8139.c:v1.07 5/6/99 Donald Becker
>http://cesdis.gsfc.nasa.gov/linux/drivers/rtl8139.html
>Apr 6 23:24:09 localhost kernel: eth0: RealTek RTL8139 Fast Ethernet at
>0xb400, IRQ 10, XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX.
And did you edit your MAC addr there, or does the module not recognize
the rtl8139's MAC addr?
>Apr 6 23:24:27 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module
>char-major-145
This is the device for a SAM-9407-based soundcard. Are you sure this is
what you really need? The ac97 files in /usr/src/linux/drivers/sound/
don't seem to mention this type of soundcard at all, and the ac97 is
supposed to have the same interface as the cards that are supported by
the kernel's OSS drivers. You should search comp.os.linux.hardware for
"AC97" and possibly your motherboard name; http://groups.google.com/ .
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: LS_COLORS + more on bash??
Date: 7 Apr 2001 13:57:18 GMT
07 Apr 2001 00:13 UTC, ekkis did say to the dudes:
> I get same behaviour as root or normal user but if you get colours in user
> mode then it's a configuration issue... what versions of kernel/bash/ls/more
> do you have?
kernel-2.2.18, bash-2.03.0(1), fileutils-4.0l and util-linux-2.10f-5.1
The last two containing ls and more respectively.
The single file per line that root experienced in 'more' is the result
of having the ls -C option unset.
My own bashrc has ls aliased as 'ls --color -CF'.
--
Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Unix Beer:
Comes in several different brands, in cans ranging from 8 oz. to 64 oz.
Drinkers of Unix Beer display fierce brand loyalty, even though they
claim that all the different brands taste almost identical.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dances With Crows)
Subject: Re: Copying a CD??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 07 Apr 2001 13:58:49 GMT
On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 09:06:37 -0400, Robert Schweikert staggered into the
Black Sun and said:
>How do I copy a bootable CD-ROM such that when I write the copied image
>to CD the new CD is bootable as well?
>Any help is appreciated, pointers to doc are welcome.
To copy a data CD:
[insert data CD]
dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/tmp/image.iso bs=2048
[remove data CD, insert blank CD-R(W) into writer]
cdrecord -v dev=0,1,0 speed=4 /tmp/image.iso
This makes an exact copy of everything on the source CD, but only works
for data CDs. Certain game manufacturers have started putting
unreadable sectors in certain spots on their CDs to foil this; see the
old days where DOS games would have bad sectors in certain places... If
you want to copy an audio CD, use cdparanoia and the -dao switch of
cdrecord, making sure to read the man pages first.
--
Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / Workin' in a code mine, hittin' Ctrl-Alt
http://www.brainbench.com / Workin' in a code mine, whoops!
=============================/ I hit a seg fault....
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Chiefy)
Subject: Re: Small Linux Dist. + GUI?
Date: 7 Apr 2001 14:06:05 GMT
07 Apr 2001 11:23 UTC, Dom. Orchard did say to the dudes:
> There are many good Linux distsributions that boot off one or two floopy
> disks (such as LOAF, FD Linux.etc.), but are there any that have GUIs, and
> that are not just command line systems?
MuLinux has a 3 floppy setup that will give you a GUI. There's more
disks to play with too. The homepage is here;
http://sunsite.auc.dk/mulinux/
--
Chiefy. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crazy people who are productive are geniuses.
Crazy people who are rich are eccentric.
But crazy people who are neither productive nor rich are just crazy.
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