Linux-Misc Digest #890, Volume #27 Fri, 18 May 01 10:13:01 EDT
Contents:
sendmail boot problem: help! (Enrico Costanza)
Re: reading Linux partitions from DOS/Windows? (Fabrice Colin)
Nautilus problem (Sasa Ostrouska)
Re: harddisk full - help!! (Corne Beerse)
dos partition not writable under linux (Aranwen)
Re: reading Linux partitions from DOS/Windows? ("green")
Re: Problem installing SuSE 7.1 Personal (Corne Beerse)
UWimap question (Pieter Ekkebus)
Howm to Verify CD ? ("ENTREKEN")
Re: Howm to Verify CD ? ("Tauno Voipio")
Re: dos partition not writable under linux ("Eric")
Re: mc - where are you? (Andrew Purugganan)
Howto turn off X's MIT_Magic Cookies? (Andrew Purugganan)
Re: How to read/write ext2 partition in Win2000? (Konstantin Komarov)
libncurses.so.3 - interbase6 (Fenasse Thierry)
Re: How do I update RH 7.1 correctly using RPMs? (Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ)
MOSIX (Karol Kowalski)
Re: printtool (Trevor Curtis)
Re: Many thanks to all for help ("ENTREKEN")
TMPDIR (Bob Tennent)
Re: Linux as voicemail system? (Carter Brey)
Re: Howto turn off X's MIT_Magic Cookies? (Kevin Croxen)
Re: bad links (wroot)
My Clock doesn't back up. (SpacemanSpiff)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Enrico Costanza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: sendmail boot problem: help!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:34:55 +0100
Hi all,
I have redhat 7.0, installed, and I am using gnome.
I just set up the network connection (succesfully) and changed the x
server.
After a couple of reboots the system stops when dufing the boot it
checks "sendmail". It halts there and doen not start.
What can I do?
Sorry if I've given not enought detail.
Please let me know if you need to know something more.
Thanks,
Enrico
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:35:16 +0100
From: Fabrice Colin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reading Linux partitions from DOS/Windows?
Look for Explore2fs. That's a 32bit app that can read (and write to)
ext2 partitions.
Fabrice
Michal Szymanski wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Some years ago there was a suite of E2FS programs (E2LS, E2CP etc)
> running under plain DOS and DOS-window-in-MSWindows. Quite useful
> for dual-system machines when one has forgotten to copy a file
> to the DOS partition while in Linux and now needs it badly in Windoze.
>
> This package, however, stopped working after upgrading Linux (I'm not
> aware at which upgrade - 4->5 or 5->6), IMHO due to some changes in
> Linux' ext2 partition format.
>
> Anybody out there knowing the solution (newer version of E2FS, another
> utility)?
>
> best regards, Michal.
------------------------------
From: Sasa Ostrouska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Nautilus problem
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:56:24 +0200
Hi to all of you.
I compiled nautilus-1.0.3 and it compiled finw without errors. Now
the problem is when I want to run it. It tells me that could
not find the Nautilus-Shell.oaf file. I installed nautilus
under /opt/gnome/nautilus. I tried also to run the nautilus-clean.sh -x
as it says in the error dialog but without success.
Any help will be very apreciated.
Rgds
Sasa
------------------------------
From: Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: harddisk full - help!!
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:10:35 +0200
Moritz von Heimendahl wrote:
>
> My harddisk is full (du shows 100% use) and removing even BIG files
> (like some 50 Mb) doesn't change a thing.
>
> Anyone has a clue what I can do? I tried fsck, it doesn't find any
> error.
>
Are you sure the filesystem (partition) which is full is the same as the
one you are removing files from?
What does df show?
Can you umount the filesystem?
CB
--
Everything should be as simple as possible but not simpler - A. Einstein
Corne' Beerse | Alcatel Telecom Nederland
------------------------------
From: Aranwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: dos partition not writable under linux
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 10:30:08 -0000
Greets.
I have RH 7 installed on the same hd as windows and of course i want to be
able to read/write on my dos partition.
I added it through linuxconf, type vfat, mount point ok but here's the prob:
i want the partition to be writable through 3 accounts:root,and say user1
and user2.If i enter root as the <default user id> then none of the others
can even read it. So i created a group, say group 1, that consists of these
3 accounts, i entered user1 as the default user and group1 as the default
group id.
What happened was that root and user1 could write to the partition but
user2 was left out with only read/execute persmissions.The strange thing
was that not all directories where writable by user1 and i had to change
their rights manually.
Now, this worked a few days ago but now not even user1 can read or write on
it. The default user-group ids haven't been changed but it just doesn't work.
One other thing is that i can't give write permission to the <others>
neither as root nor as the default user. I enter the commands and it just
doesn't listen and that's really annoying.
Also,i tried entering 777 at the default permission field which is the
umask command but that just made things worse...when user1 could write,
this command took that right from him.
I tried so many combinations and mounted/dismounted the partitions so many
times last week that when i started windows i got some boot sector and
several <insufficient memory> errors that i had to format the partition.
So,
1) How will user1 be able to write on the partition again?
2) How will user2 be able to write?
3) What's going on with the umask thing?Isn't it supposed to work?
4) Doesn't the chmod command work on dos partitions??Is there something
else needed? I use chmod 777 /hda .
5) Why don't all directories under /hda have the same permissions?
Thanks a lot i really hope you can answer some of the questions.
-Lady Aranwen
--
Posted via CNET Help.com
http://www.help.com/
------------------------------
From: "green" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: reading Linux partitions from DOS/Windows?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:38:13 +1000
any plain dos ones?
have used Explore2fs though and it does the job (If I am in windows)
but dos is a better solution.
"Fabrice Colin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Look for Explore2fs. That's a 32bit app that can read (and write to)
> ext2 partitions.
>
> Fabrice
>
> Michal Szymanski wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Some years ago there was a suite of E2FS programs (E2LS, E2CP etc)
> > running under plain DOS and DOS-window-in-MSWindows. Quite useful
> > for dual-system machines when one has forgotten to copy a file
> > to the DOS partition while in Linux and now needs it badly in Windoze.
> >
> > This package, however, stopped working after upgrading Linux (I'm not
> > aware at which upgrade - 4->5 or 5->6), IMHO due to some changes in
> > Linux' ext2 partition format.
> >
> > Anybody out there knowing the solution (newer version of E2FS, another
> > utility)?
> >
> > best regards, Michal.
------------------------------
From: Corne Beerse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Problem installing SuSE 7.1 Personal
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:48:01 +0200
"Brett W. Denner" wrote:
>
> I have a Pentium III machine with two hard drives. Win98 is on the first,
> and SuSE 6.4
> is on the other. I use LILO to select which operating system to boot (my
> wife prefers
> Windows, I prefer Linux).
>
> I bought Suse 7.1 Personal and attempted to install it over my existing
> installation by
> booting up my machine with the Suse 7.1 CD #1 in the CDROM. After the
> CDROM spools up,
> the little graphic of the Linux penguin (Tux?) appears in the upper left
> corner, and
> several lines of output (which appear to have something to do with my hard
> disks and
> possibly existing partitions) are written to the screen. Then, nothing.
> My
> computer locks up and I have to reboot.
Are you sure you bought suse 7.1? Do you realy have a look at the
origional CDs in it's origional cover? Try reading the printed side.
Somewhere it says CD #1 is for fresh installation and CD #2 is for
update.
For your info, the book is also available on CD #1 somewhere in the
documentation or books directories.
>
> I tried the same thing with the 3.5 inch floppy provided by SuSE, but I get
> the same
> (bad) result As I mentioned, I can boot into my old SuSE 6.4 system using
> LILO, but the
> installation process hangs up every time when I try to install SuSE 7.1.
>
> Can anyone help me figure out what is going wrong?
Try CD #2 for updates.
read the book for details.
CB
--
Everything should be as simple as possible but not simpler - A. Einstein
Corne' Beerse | Alcatel Telecom Nederland
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:27:32 +0200
From: Pieter Ekkebus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: UWimap question
Hi,
Does somebody know if it is possible to create acl's for imap ??
Or a other solution to limit users ho have imap access ??
--
Groeten,
Piet.
Your mouse has moved.
Windows NT must be restarted for the change to take effect.
------------------------------
From: "ENTREKEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Howm to Verify CD ?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:34:44 GMT
Yes, Red Hat V7.1
Yes, burned from ISO's.
Don't know how to verify ISO besides using the Adaptec CD burner verify.
The CD contains "RELEASE-NOTES.xx" where xx is a language designator.
Along with 3 directories: "dosutils", "images", and "RedHat".
Any other way to verify CD's
TIA
------------------------------
From: "Tauno Voipio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howm to Verify CD ?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 12:04:00 GMT
"ENTREKEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:oN7N6.5712$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Yes, Red Hat V7.1
> Yes, burned from ISO's.
>
> Don't know how to verify ISO besides using the Adaptec CD burner verify.
> The CD contains "RELEASE-NOTES.xx" where xx is a language designator.
> Along with 3 directories: "dosutils", "images", and "RedHat".
>
> Any other way to verify CD's
>
If you have a running Linux with ISO9660 filesystem and the loop device, you
can mount the CD image file and read it:
mount -t iso9660 -o loop path_to_isofile path_to_mount_point
Tauno Voipio
tauno voipio @ iki fi
------------------------------
From: "Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dos partition not writable under linux
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:10:19 +0200
> Also,i tried entering 777 at the default permission field which is the
try umask=000 as an option.
Eric
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Re: mc - where are you?
Date: 18 May 2001 12:05:14 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ mc - where are you? If you read this, pse answer...
[ Where can I find a linux console mc binary that:
[ 1. Doesn't change the serial port settings to uart: unknown
[ 2. Doesn't whine about no samba
[ 3. Doesn't whine about no gpm
[ 4. Doesn't whine about hostname
[ 5. Doesn't put dumb stuff in /var/log/{syslog,messages}
i go to rufus.w3.org. with a little luck you can get older versions/binaries
that aren't so demanding. if you venture too far out you might even get
the libc5 version -- BEWARE
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Purugganan)
Subject: Howto turn off X's MIT_Magic Cookies?
Date: 18 May 2001 12:08:01 GMT
I know it's all for the sake of security. But this is a home PC we're
talking about, hardly gets on the net except for a serial dial up to a
free public library access account. WHo am I kidding?
That's why I am enabling alogin so that it boots to 4 virtual consoles
without having to log on. Unfortunately, startx won't work because of
these Magic Cookies. Is there a way to turn them off and force X to come up?
--
jazz
Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
--- OUT THERE??
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Konstantin Komarov)
Subject: Re: How to read/write ext2 partition in Win2000?
Date: 18 May 2001 05:36:07 -0700
"Czz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:<9e25cn$s3t$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I have to mount ext2 partition in Win2000. I have found such software like
> explore2fs-1.00-pre4 and ext2fsnt-0.4. But explore2fs-1.00-pre4 doesn't
> support mounting as a drive. Ext2fsnt-0.4 cannot set the write owner(always
> root). And Paragon Ext2fs Anywhere Demo doesn't support write.
> Is there any other software that could mount ext2 partition as a drive, set
> the write owner in Windows2000?
> TIA.
Paragon Ext2FS Anywhere (full version) CAN write to the mounted partition:
http://www.partition-manager.com/n_ext2fs_main.htm
------------------------------
Subject: libncurses.so.3 - interbase6
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Fenasse Thierry)
Date: 18 May 2001 12:38:40 GMT
Could someone tell me on which rpm or file is the libncurses.so.3??
Because it is required by Interbase6 on RedHat 7.0 and I only have the
libncurses.so.5.
If I install ncurses3-1.9.9e-11.i386.rpm, it just create a link pointing to
libncurses.so.5 whitout installing the libncurses.so.3 file.
Thanks
Yaroon.
------------------------------
From: Jesus Manuel NAVARRO LOPEZ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: How do I update RH 7.1 correctly using RPMs?
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:59:02 +0200
Hi, George:
George Adams wrote:
>
> I have a basic question about keeping my RH 7.1 Linux box up-to-date. I see
> that there are already several patches and upgrades of various sorts
> available in the form of RPMs off Redhat's website, which I have downloaded.
>
> Now what? For instance, if I do an "rpm -Uvh
> netscape-common-4.77-1.i386.rpm", I get several warning messages about other
> programs (such as Netscape Navigator and KDE) which are dependent on the
> netscape-common-4.76 files. Should I ignore these warning, and issue a
> "rpm -e -nodeps" for the old netscape-common-4.76 package, then install the
> new package? Or will this break some program or tool that needed the old
> package and doesn't know what to do with the new package?
>
RPMs under RH control dependencies at the shared library level. That
means is *usally* very confiable. Still, it deppends on the RPM
developer to do his work well (he can "mark" a RPM dependant on a strict
given version of a DLL, when it is not so). But usually, doing things
as suggested by de RPM manager is a good idea.
First, if you want to be sligthly more careful, don't do -U, which means
"upgrade or install if no previous version" but -F which means
"freshen", or "upgrade only if previous version exists", and always try
first the install with the --test option so you will see what's going to
hapen. So you should do "rpm -Fhvv --test
netscape-common-4.77-1.i386.rpm", for instance.
The previous command will say that your already installed version of
netscape-navigator (the netscape suit if formed by netscape-common and
netscape-navigator or netscape-communicator) depends on the already
installed version of netscape-common. Your next step then is download
the new version of netscape-navigator and try again:
rpm -Fhvv --test netscape-common-4.77-1.i386.rpm
netscape-navigator-4.77-1.i386.rpm
Then you will see that the warning message about navigator dependencies
disappears
Now, you say that it "conflicts" somehow with some KDE packets: you
should follow simmilar path: either is a package you don't need, then
you can either unistall it (if no further dependencies problems arise),
upgrade, or change the install of the Netscape packages from -F to -i
(that 'i' stays for install: in this case you will install the new
netscape, but the old one will remain in your box too).
The same goes when the message is about the package you're about to
install needs some_library version.so.X >= a.b.c. Then you usually go
to rpmfind.net and search for the mentioned library to see what packages
offer it, then you compare with what you have already installed (rpm -qa
| grep package_name) and upgrade/install/unistall as needed.
As you see these are bit convoluted paths so you are better upgrading
frecuently so you need to manage a short list of packages at a time. If
you're one/two months without upgrade, your bets are that trying to
upgrade some simple package will awake a storm of packages
cross-dependencies.
> Another example:
>
> > rpm -Uvh arts-2.1.2-1.i386.rpm
> error: failed dependencies:
> arts = 2.1.1 is needed by kdelibs-sound-2.1.1-5
>
Look for newer versions of kdelibs-sound (most probably you will end
upgrading the whole KDE bunch), or rpm -i your arts package so you have
both version installed.
> If I force the removal of the old 2.1.1 package, then install 2.1.2, will
> kdelibs-sound be OK with that? Or will it still be looking for arts 2.1.1
> (and therefore break).
>
If you follow that path, your system could be OK... or not (you can't
know for sure). Note that your rpm databse "insists" that it needs
*exactly* version 2.1.1 for kdelibs-sound-2.1.1-5 to be "glad".
> That's just a couple of examples, but I guess what I'm looking for is a more
> general answer - what's the normal procedure for keeping a Linux box
> up-to-date? Is it the same set of commands that I just issue each time I
> download an updated RPM? And can I automate the process (through autorpm or
> some such tool)?
>
I suggest doing it step by step, looking at least once a week for newer
packages, and, although possible, don't try to automate: while most
times the upgrade goes flawlessly, you can't know for sure: some
packages are not too gentle and (for instance) will move the config
files of the older version to config_file.conf.rpmold, or the new will
go as config_file.conf.rpmnew, and you should control it because of new
config file parameters you should review for the new version to work
properly, and so on.
--
SALUD,
Jes�s
***
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
***
------------------------------
From: Karol Kowalski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MOSIX
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:09:57 +0200
==============68E91126D08F3D39B65ADD9B
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Hello,
Could anyone tell me where can I find any documentation or examples
of MOSIX and LUI employment (other then www.mosix.org ). Maybe anyone
have good experiance with clustering.
Thanks
karol ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
==============68E91126D08F3D39B65ADD9B
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-2
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en">
<html>
Hello,
<p>Could anyone tell me where can I find any documentation or examples
<br>of MOSIX and LUI employment (other then www.mosix.org ). Maybe
anyone
<br>have good experiance with clustering.
<p>Thanks
<br> karol ( <a
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]</a>
)
<br> </html>
==============68E91126D08F3D39B65ADD9B==
------------------------------
From: Trevor Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: printtool
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:29:42 -0400
"Nils O. Sel=E5sdal" wrote:
> =
> "Kenny@BUI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:_5UK6.813$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > hello,
> > whenever we make a change to the printer setup in the gui printtool t=
he
> > changes are not taking effect. when we go back in everything changes =
back
> to
> > what it was.
> Make sure you restart lpd
I've had similiar problems. It's been a while, but I had to "save"
somewhere (perhaps in one of the pull down menus?), and *then* restart.
Hope this helps.
later,
-- =
Trevor Curtis =
Coop, Alcatel CID
784-6785
============================================================
"UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things,
because that would also stop you from doing clever things."
-- Doug Gwyn
------------------------------
From: "ENTREKEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Many thanks to all for help
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 13:49:43 GMT
Thanks to all who took the time to respond to my post for help.
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Tennent)
Subject: TMPDIR
Date: 18 May 2001 13:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On someone's advice, I have TMPDIR set to $HOME/tmp. This seems to work well
for almost everything, except samba. I have to start this with root's TMPDIR
set to /tmp or I get failures from smbclient. Is this a bug or a feature? I'd
be grateful for advice on the security aspects of using $HOME/tmp in preference
to /tmp. I'm currently using samba-2.0.8-1.6.
Bob T.
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:54:49 -0400
From: Carter Brey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux as voicemail system?
>
Kellergroup publishes a nifty fax/voicemail application called PM Fax.
It was originally developed for the OS/2 platform, and has been ported to
Linux-X using static Motif libraries. I use it all the time, and it's
wonderful. I think it costs around 60 bucks. It comes with drivers for
several voice modem chipsets. You can download a lite demo and upgrade to
the full Pro version by registering on the web and inserting an unlocking
code. Of course if you cannot run X on your machines it will do you no
good...
PM Fax uses REXX scripts to answer the phone and take a fax or voice
message automatically. There are several scripts that you can download to
use with the registered version. You can use it with one or several
mailboxes.
I know they've changed the download site recently, but if you go to
wwwkellergroup.com I think you'll be re-directed.
Cheers,
Carter Brey
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kevin Croxen)
Subject: Re: Howto turn off X's MIT_Magic Cookies?
Date: 18 May 2001 13:48:04 GMT
In article <9e33b1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Andrew Purugganan wrote:
>I know it's all for the sake of security. But this is a home PC we're
>talking about, hardly gets on the net except for a serial dial up to a
>free public library access account. WHo am I kidding?
>
>That's why I am enabling alogin so that it boots to 4 virtual consoles
>without having to log on. Unfortunately, startx won't work because of
>these Magic Cookies. Is there a way to turn them off and force X to come up?
>
>--
>jazz
>Registered linux user no. 164098 +--+--+--+ Litestep user no. 386
>Doesn't it bother you, that we have to search for intelligent life
>--- OUT THERE??
Not the approved way, of course, but for a non-networked home box you can
set whatever xserver you're running suid root, i.e., chmod u+s For a
networked box, one should properly configure X to use Xwrapper
--Kevin
------------------------------
From: wroot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: bad links
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 09:56:56 -0400
Johan Vervloet wrote:
> In article <9e2d0h$gms$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "wroot"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> How can I get ls and tree to highlight bad symbolic links with blinking
>> colors? (The way ls is set up on Redhat)
>
> Put this line somewhere in a profile :
>
> alias ls='ls --color'
>
I had this alias all along. I'm talking about *blinking* bad links.
(Which I have on RH, but not on Debian)
Wroot
------------------------------
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (SpacemanSpiff)
Subject: My Clock doesn't back up.
Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 14:06:50 GMT
All I want is to set my time to one of those government servers,
with a simple script. say:
now = telnet time.blah.blah 13 | grep... | cut ...
hwclock --set now ...
hwclock --hctosys ...
Simple enough, right?
WRONG!
I messed with this for 2 hours, reading howtos, man pages,
web searches, setting TZ, tzconfig, etc...
I'd try something, and get DIFFERENT results with the same command!!!
I'm in central time in the US, and UTC was getting set to my RTC. I
could see it with the `hwclock` command. But no matter what I tried,
hwclock --hctosys WOULD NOT set my clock backwards to my time
zone.
It would set my clock to the SAME as the RTC, it would set my clock
6 hours FORWARD from UTC. It even set my clock to 24 hours ago. I
have not idea why. I screwed with TZ, --utc --local and a plethora of
other things. As far as I can tell, my environment is just fine.
But this just wouldn't work the way the documentation seemed to
say it should!
I finally shutdown the PC, and set the BIOS time to UTC (which, for
some reason was 6 hours ahead)
Then , when I booted, suddenly the system time is correct.
Can ANYONE give me a clue as to what's going on?
I do not want to reboot my server just to get the time set properly.
(and I'm not going to just go --local everywhere, that's not the way
things are supposed to work!)
-Scott Weber
------------------------------
** FOR YOUR REFERENCE **
The service address, to which questions about the list itself and requests
to be added to or deleted from it should be directed, is:
Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can send mail to the entire list by posting to comp.os.linux.misc.
Linux may be obtained via one of these FTP sites:
ftp.funet.fi pub/Linux
tsx-11.mit.edu pub/linux
sunsite.unc.edu pub/Linux
End of Linux-Misc Digest
******************************