Linux-Misc Digest #6, Volume #28                  Sat, 2 Jun 01 01:13:01 EDT

Contents:
  Re: themes.org down? (Matthias)
  Mandrake-8.0+XFree86-4.0,3?? (Ish Rattan)
  Re: DVD: FreeBSD or Linux? ("Bill Piety")
  Re: killall with perl-scripts. how? (peter pilsl)
  Re: Mandrake-8.0+XFree86-4.0,3?? (Dave Uhring)
  Re: Can't boot from SCSI if IDE is on (Bob Hauck)
  Re: How widespread is "chkconfig"? (Colin Watson)
  FREE CD ("CP")
  ncurses error on make menuconfig ("S.C.H.")
  Re: How can I send a page to a mobilecomm pager from a korn shell script?? (3FE)
  Re: Advice: Best Linux Virus Protection (3FE)
  Re: 2GB File size limitation (David Schwartz)
  Re: linux (Steve Sivier)
  Re: How widespread is "chkconfig"? (Grant Edwards)
  Re: Linux distribution? ("bowman")
  Re: Advice: Best Linux Virus Protection (Grant Edwards)
  Re: ncurses error on make menuconfig (Kwan Lowe)
  path environment (faeychyld)
  linuxconf problems with named - fail to recognize service is already running 
(inetquestion)
  sshd - slow initializing connection (inetquestion)
  Re: ncurses error on make menuconfig ("S.C.H.")
  bind - could I use something less complicated (inetquestion)
  Re: Can't boot from SCSI if IDE is on (Markus Kossmann)

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From: Matthias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: themes.org down?
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 02:02:52 +0200

S.C.H. wrote:

> Anyone know what happened to themes.org? They have been down for two
> days...
> 
> TIA

Some online tickers reported: themes.org is down due to the ssh-attack 
against them. For more information read newsforge.com or /. or something 
else.

Ciao, Matthias

-- 

Go Open Source and build software that doesn't crash even when it's hit
       by an U.S. Navy submarine piloted by rich civilians.

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From: Ish Rattan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mandrake-8.0+XFree86-4.0,3??
Date: 1 Jun 2001 20:38:25 -0500


I was trying to compile ab X application with static libraries.
There is no /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a in Mandrake distribution. I
also tried ftp.xfree86.org and Xbin.tgz (4.0.2) is missing libX11.a.

Any ideas?
- ishwar


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From: "Bill Piety" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: DVD: FreeBSD or Linux?
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:02:20 -0500

Under RH7 with videolan's vlc I'm getting DVD playback very comparable to
WinDVD. Their vlc client has decryption built in. Using the stock RH7
kernel, 4.0.3 x with the Nvidia driver.

I
n article <9f8dtj$jun$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "wroot"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Richard Tobin wrote:
> 
>>>P.S. As a different FreeBSD vs Debian issue: is it true that FreeBSD
>>>does not authomate upgrading? (Like upgrading from 4.x to 5.y)
>> 
>> What do you mean by "automate"?
> 
> = enable upgrading with 1 - 2 commands as opposed to burning a new CD,
> rebooting, etc. (I'm not talking about minor 4.2 -> 4.3 upgrade)
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Wroot
> 
> P.S. Sorry, unintentional followup-to in previous message.


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From: peter pilsl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: killall with perl-scripts. how?
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 03:10:56 +0200

Marc Beck wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm running a perl-script /home/user/bin/test_kill/test_kill.pl.
> 
> When I try to kill it with the killall command like that:
> killall test_kill.pl
> or killall /home/user/bin/test_kill/test_kill.pl
> 
> killall always reports that no process was killed. How can I kill that
> script?
> 

use the PID

kill PID

peter

-- 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.goldfisch.at

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From: Dave Uhring <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mandrake-8.0+XFree86-4.0,3??
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:24:45 -0500

Ish Rattan wrote:

> 
> I was trying to compile ab X application with static libraries.
> There is no /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.a in Mandrake distribution. I
> also tried ftp.xfree86.org and Xbin.tgz (4.0.2) is missing libX11.a.
> 
> Any ideas?
> - ishwar
> 
> 

>From CD 2, install XFree86-static-libs-4.0.3-7mdk.i586.rpm


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bob Hauck)
Subject: Re: Can't boot from SCSI if IDE is on
Reply-To: bobh = haucks dot org
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 01:44:18 GMT

On 01 Jun 2001 23:16:59 +0200, Kai Großjohann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, how can I boot the machine from sda without losing access to the
> IDE drive and the ATAPI CD-ROM in it?

Have you tried putting all the IDE stuff on the secondary channel?

-- 
 -| Bob Hauck
 -| To Whom You Are Speaking
 -| http://www.haucks.org/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colin Watson)
Subject: Re: How widespread is "chkconfig"?
Date: 2 Jun 2001 01:35:29 GMT

Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>How widespread is the "chkconfig" utility?  I've got a system
>admin utility and one of its functions manipulates symlinks in
>/etc/rc.d/* to enable/disable a particular service.
>
>If chkconfig is available in most distro's I'll probably change
>it it to try using chkconfig first, and if that can't be found
>manipulate the symlinks directly.

It's not available in Debian and derived distributions; we use
update-rc.d. Try grabbing
ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_*.tar.gz (whatever the
latest version is) and looking at the documentation there.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson                                     [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
"The game is on again / A lover or a friend
 A big thing or a small / The winner takes it all" - Abba

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Reply-To: "CP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "CP" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.comp.linux.xxx,alt.linux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,at.linux,de.comp.os.unix.linux.misc,es.comp.os.linux
Subject: FREE CD
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 02:01:22 GMT

Get a FREE Linux Mandrake 8.0 CD.  No shipping charges.  Find out how to
receive this free gift at
http://connect.freeyellow.com




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From: "S.C.H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: ncurses error on make menuconfig
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 02:35:06 GMT

I am attempting to upgrade my RH 7.1 system kernel.

downloading, untaring the new kernel files is fine however when i try to
run make menuconfig i get the error :

/usr/bin/ld - cannot find -lncurses
collect 2: Id returned 1 exit status

stating that it cannot find -lncurses,
Unable to find the Ncurses libraries...

I do have ncurses-5.2-8 installed in /usr/lib
I have run ldconfig

Not sure where to go from here....help :-))

///////////////////

sherd
at
total
dot
net

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: How can I send a page to a mobilecomm pager from a korn shell script??
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 02:53:42 GMT

On Thu, 31 May 2001 03:11:20 GMT, Fredrick Gethers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> How can I send a page to a mobilecomm pager from a korn shell script??

In the Big Brother Network Monitor community, they swear by QPage,
generally.  Hth.  support.bb4.com, ?qpage?


-- 
 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
     TopQuark Software & Serv.  Contract programmer, server bum.
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Give up Spammers; I use procmail.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (3FE)
Subject: Re: Advice: Best Linux Virus Protection
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:01:08 GMT

On Thu, 31 May 2001 07:11:02 -0500, David Kistner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Could you recommend a good virus protection for my Linux workstation?  I
> understand that viruses are not as prevalent on the Linux OS but I'd feel
> better having something on the machine.  Thanks in advance for the help.

Running Linux is THE best Linux protection.  If you're forwarding
mails onto Windows users, you might want to consider scanning /
deleting attachments, but they won't affect your computer regardless.
Assuming you don't run from root, ...

-- 
 Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
     TopQuark Software & Serv.  Contract programmer, server bum.
     [EMAIL PROTECTED]        Give up Spammers; I use procmail.


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From: David Schwartz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install,linux.redhat.misc,redhat.kernel.general
Subject: Re: 2GB File size limitation
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2001 20:14:14 -0700


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> > Well, for one thing, you might want you name server to be authoritative
> > for 'com'.
 
> Are you just being theoretical? I'm not sure how big the .com zone file
> is; last time I heard, it was a big less than 2GB.

        No, I'm being serious. I was, in fact, unable to unzip the zone file
for 'com' and had to pipe the unzip to split.
 
        DS

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From: Steve Sivier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: linux
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:31:21 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, william 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>  The point I'm trying to make is Linux is 20 years behind because it's 
>  the 
> same as DOS and all it's stupid commands.  Gates was the only one to 
> realize how dumb dos was,even tho he used it in his system.

Ignoring, of course, all the people who thought the same thing before 
Gates did. And, while MS-DOS was, as you say, dumb, Linux is not MS-DOS 
(thank god). You can get the GUI in Linux just like you can in Windows, 
but that won't get you all the power of the OS (just like in Windows). 
Of course, I speak from the viewpoint of a developer. General users 
likely won't miss it.


> I now have redhat 5.2 and I still can't install it, because when they
> ask for a command (just like Dos) I don't know what to enter.

I believe redhat 5.2 is pretty old (in computer terms). Think of it as 
being like Windows 3.1 was (ok, I'm sure that version of redhat wasn't 
that bad :). The current distributions of Linux are pretty slick and, 
IMHO, already better than any version of Windows I've found. I found 
SuSE 7.1 to be very easy to install, I'm assuming that 7.2 will be even 
easier. And if you use KDE (SuSE uses KDE by default) you'll have your 
nice comfortable GUI interface. Other distributions may default to 
Gnome, which also give you a nice GUI interface. If you want a 
Windows-like GUI, KDE is probably closer, but this is something of a 
religious issue. Try both (and maybe other desktops) and use whatever 
you like best.

Steve

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: How widespread is "chkconfig"?
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:35:59 GMT

On 2 Jun 2001 01:35:29 GMT, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Grant Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>How widespread is the "chkconfig" utility?  I've got a system
>>admin utility and one of its functions manipulates symlinks in
>>/etc/rc.d/* to enable/disable a particular service.
>>
>>If chkconfig is available in most distro's I'll probably change
>>it it to try using chkconfig first, and if that can't be found
>>manipulate the symlinks directly.
>
>It's not available in Debian and derived distributions; we use
>update-rc.d. Try grabbing
>ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/dpkg/dpkg_*.tar.gz (whatever the
>latest version is) and looking at the documentation there.

Thanks -- I'll take a look at supporting that also.

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  I wonder if I ought
                                  at               to tell them about my
                               visi.com            PREVIOUS LIFE as a COMPLETE
                                                   STRANGER?

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From: "bowman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux distribution?
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 21:49:25 -0600


"Michael Andersson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>
> I wonder if there exists a Linux distributions which can be installed in
> a directory on a fat32 partition.
> The distributions should contain X-window as well.

http://www.dragonlinux.net/about.shtml




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Advice: Best Linux Virus Protection
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:56:42 GMT

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 03:01:08 GMT, 3FE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Thu, 31 May 2001 07:11:02 -0500, David Kistner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> Could you recommend a good virus protection for my Linux workstation?  I
>> understand that viruses are not as prevalent on the Linux OS but I'd feel
>> better having something on the machine.  Thanks in advance for the help.
>
>Running Linux is THE best Linux protection.  If you're forwarding
>mails onto Windows users, you might want to consider scanning /
>deleting attachments, but they won't affect your computer regardless.

Or if you serve files for Windows users, you can run a standard
anti-virus scanner from one of the usual vendors (Norton?
Symantec?).

-- 
Grant Edwards                   grante             Yow!  There's a lot of BIG
                                  at               MONEY in MISERY if you have
                               visi.com            an AGENT!!

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From: Kwan Lowe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ncurses error on make menuconfig
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 04:02:09 GMT

S.C.H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am attempting to upgrade my RH 7.1 system kernel.

> downloading, untaring the new kernel files is fine however when i try to
> run make menuconfig i get the error :

> /usr/bin/ld - cannot find -lncurses
> collect 2: Id returned 1 exit status

> stating that it cannot find -lncurses,
> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries...

> I do have ncurses-5.2-8 installed in /usr/lib
> I have run ldconfig

Install the ncurses-devel package.

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Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 14:09:49 +1000
From: faeychyld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: path environment

Where is the complete path environment
kept in RH.

What you get with "echo $PATH" is more
than is found in /etc/profile.

-- 
-
-
- 
Regards F

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From: inetquestion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.questions,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: linuxconf problems with named - fail to recognize service is already running
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:15:07 -0400

I'm running redhat 7.1 x86 and am having problems with linuxconf and
startup scripts.  Under Control service activity I enabled named and
iptables to startup automatically.  Now even after reboot everytime I
enter linuxconf I give me the following message: 


*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************
The state of the system is not in sync with the current/updated
configurations. You are allowed to make it current, or continue with
the current configurations.

Here are the commands to execute


The following command told me something had to be done
 /etc/rc3.d/S58named probe
Executing: /etc/rc3.d/S55named start                            
*************************************************************************
*************************************************************************


If I allow it to start named I end up with a ton of named processes
running.  If I choose do nothing, and exit the system works as normal.
However I always  get the same message the next time I run linuxconf.
I looked in /etc/rc.d/rc3.d  and found two files that began with S55*
which were S55named and S55sshd.  I renamed S55named to S58named and
restarted the system.  Upon entering linuxconf I got the same message
on exit except this time it was S58named instead of S55named.

I'm not an expert on the System V startup process, but originall
thouht this was caused by two links begging with the same number
"S55", but I noticed that this is not the only occurance of this, and
the other two services seem to have no problem.

also after bootup when I do "ps -ef | grep named"
I see at lease 4 instances of named running.

If anyone has any info as to why linuxconf never recognizes this as a
running process it would be greatly appreciated.


Thanks,


mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: inetquestion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.questions,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: sshd - slow initializing connection
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:19:52 -0400

I'm running redhat 7.1 and was reading an article about different
methods of starting sshd.  One problem I noticed is that the
connection to the server is very slow.  The article mentioned 
that this could be because the services is restarting evertime a 
connection is attemped instead of running all the time.  

Can anyone one offer an performance tuning to sshd or maybe 
some other areas I should look into.

Thanks,

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: "S.C.H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ncurses error on make menuconfig
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 04:29:17 GMT

Thank you, that works.

In article <5zZR6.2050$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Kwan Lowe"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> S.C.H. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I am attempting to upgrade my RH 7.1 system kernel.
> 
>> downloading, untaring the new kernel files is fine however when i try
>> to run make menuconfig i get the error :
> 
>> /usr/bin/ld - cannot find -lncurses
>> collect 2: Id returned 1 exit status
> 
>> stating that it cannot find -lncurses, Unable to find the Ncurses
>> libraries...
> 
>> I do have ncurses-5.2-8 installed in /usr/lib I have run ldconfig
> 
> Install the ncurses-devel package.

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From: inetquestion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.unix.questions,linux.redhat,linux.redhat.install
Subject: bind - could I use something less complicated
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 00:31:48 -0400

I'm runing redhat 7.1 x86 and have this box setup to masq my internal
network.  Before I was running winroute with the dhcp server to set
the clients dns server to the nat machine so that if the dns numbers 
of my provider changed, then the clients would continue to work as
normal.  Upon setting up my linux box to replace winroute I was a bit
unsure of how to get the same effect.  

As a first attempt I just started bind and the clients automatically
started working.  I did no extra configuration whatsoever.  I feel
that running this may be a bit more overhead than I really need, but
am still unsure, hence this post.  Is there another way to forward dns
request to your upstream provider even if your provider changes
sometime midstream?

Thanks,

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: Markus Kossmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't boot from SCSI if IDE is on
Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2001 06:10:34 +0200

Kai Großjohann wrote:
> 
> I have a computer where the IDE drive has gone south.  But the SCSI
> drive is still okay.  So I copied data from the IDE drive and
> installed a new Debian potato on the SCSI drive.  Installed a kernel,
> ran Lilo.  Lilo warned me that this (/dev/sda) is not the first disk.
> 
> I boot the machine, get `L 10 10 10 10...' or similar (might be `LI'
> rather than `L' and might be `10' rather than `10 ') where the 10
> keeps repeating until it fills the whole screen.
> 
> Booting from a floppy works.  And also, I go into the BIOS setup, turn
> off everything it knows about IDE, boot again (from sda): works.
> 
> So, how can I boot the machine from sda without losing access to the
> IDE drive and the ATAPI CD-ROM in it?

This "feature" is caused by the BIOS. If you've turned on the IDE stuff
in BIOS the IDE gets the number 0x80 and the SCSI drive the 0x81 (
unless there is a option "boot SCSI before IDE" in your BIOS) . With
disabled IDE the SCSI drive  gets the 0x80. And lilo uses that number to
access the drives with BIOS calls. 
Try the folowing solution :
Make sure that there is no entry for your IDE disk in BIOS ( but don't
disable the IDE controler) or use ,if available  the "boot SCSI before
IDE" option in BIOS 
And add 
drive=/dev/sda
bios=0x80
to your lilo.conf  to tell lilo, that you're booting from SCSI even if
there is a IDE disk in your system . 
 
PS: There should be a lilo user manual called user.dvi on your disk
somewhere unter /usr/(share/)/doc 


-- 
Markus Kossmann                                    
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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