Hello Matti,

On Tue, 28 Sep 1999, Matti Aarnio wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 27, 1999 at 11:39:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> > > I'm actually with Alexey on IPv6 <-> IPv6 masquerading. It's a horrible
> > > hack. If your ISP gives you only a single IPv6 address then they really need
> > > to be beaten with a the pointed end of a cluestick.
> > 
> > Expect one address. They can charge lots extra for business service if
> > you want several. Its about service differentiation not about cluesticks
        
>       No, that isn't the only driving force behind it.
>       (My ISP access hat on..)
> 
>       Primary problem is that supplying dynamic addresses is
>       nice and easy, especially when dialup boxes are all
>       over the country behind routed IP network.  Compare
>       that to STATIC addresses (or subnets), which would
>       end up at different call sites with each call,
>       a nightmare.   Supplying static addresses at static
>       locations is possible, of course, but costs more at
>       the telephony network, than terminating all calls as
>       close to the callers as possible..
> 
>       I have been talking with one hardware vendor about
>       supplying slightly different IPv6 dynamic pool
>       management, than what the IPv4 has.
>       For IPv4 there is typically pool base address, and
>       count of how many addresses are available starting
>       from it.  (Or as syntax is at another machine, the
>       end-address of the address range.)
>       For IPv6 there could be an increment parameter (e.g.
>       "16") for the addresses, although I have not yet
>       figured how to use such dynamically allocated subnets..
> 
>       There are addresses, but HOW can you use them ?
>       Renumber the network every time your dialup connector
>       hooks to the ISP ?   (Ethernet auto-config doesn't
>       quite work unless you are supplied with /64 subnet,
>       while these things I have been playing with supply
>       just a /124 -- one of the reasons is that we want
>       to pre-supply IPv6 reversers for pool addresses.
>       That isn't quite so simple for /64 subnet...)
> 
>       Single addresses are *so* much simpler...

        Speaking as an Network engineer,  Ha !

        There isn't anything easier than setting up routing (given clue
        on both ends) .  Dynamic on the other hand requires a great deal
        of consideration & forthought on whether to use a Dhcp / Bootp / 
        allow the terminal server to do the allocations /... ,  

        Right now I have a class 'C of my own . I dialin At -my- prodivers
        and tell him (them if I so desire) where my routes should go .
        Zebra / Gated / Whoever the next one is , IS YOUR FRIEND .
        Routing protocols are the only thing that stand between endusers
        and the internet .  they(routing protocols) can/should/will be
        used eventually to cure the problem you are speaking about .

        Nothing else is in the way of the end user BUT GREAD . Twyl, JimL

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