Linux-Networking Digest #1, Volume #10 Tue, 26 Jan 99 02:13:44 EST
Contents:
Re: Why Does Linux Networking Suck So Badly ? (Elvis Whoppo)
Wingate, proxy, netscape and linux (Bruce OBrien)
Re: Terminators and thinnet ("Jim Ray")
Re: Dialup using NIC IP address ("Tom Hulley")
Re: help samba -> Gethostbyaddr failed for 90.0.0.4 (Paul Harris)
GTE, DSL and Linux (Stephen Carville)
Re: Cookies, Smashing them, How-to? (Raymond Lillard)
PPP LCP timeout: MRU contention ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Compatible CDRW Drive Recommendations?? (Landen Stoker)
Re: 2 Linux machines 2 nics and a hub and something is wrong? (Norman Elliott)
Looking for HOWTO for Win95/Linux network with crossover cable ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: TULIP CHIPSET: 10/100 Nic Anywhere? (Peter W)
Re: Linux to ISDN router to ISP: sendmail can't send (Darin Ernst)
Routing Question (NEWBIE) (John Smith)
Problems with netatalk (Sebastian Wangemann)
Re: Can Linux do Peer-to-Peer Networking ? (Norman Elliott)
This is a question about hardware + networking (Tessai)
Display ("Andrew Janssen")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elvis Whoppo)
Subject: Re: Why Does Linux Networking Suck So Badly ?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:47:11 GMT
"The mouse has moved...
...Windows must restart before this setting takes effect"
All my love,
-Whoppo
On Wed, 20 Jan 1999 03:33:44 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (j) wrote:
>The sheer number of messages posted here - usually half going
>unanswered - tells the tale ... Linux networking sucks.
>
>Now you can take your Winders, add in file-sharing in just a
>couple of minutes, bring up your Winders workstations and
>locate and link in within just another few minutes. Easy.
>Quick. Relatively painless. Not the Linux way ...
>
>Now you may try to defend Linux by saying that it has more
>"flexibility" - but quite frankly we could do with a lot
>less "flexibility" and a lot more simplicity. I'll bet
>that 95% of users just want to tie into a local NT server
>or use Linux AS a file/print server for Winders PCs.
>I think that "flexibility" is just an excuse - a euphamism
>for "a bunch of really unsophisticated little utilities
>written with no real plan in mind by people with a fetish
>for cryptic poorly-documented command-line parameters and
>well-hidden config files". As is, Linux is a user-UNfriendly
>mirror of MSDOS - and that goes double for "connectivity" issues.
>
>Want cheap PC networking & connectivity ? One "L" word comes
>to mind and it's NOT "Linux" - try "LanTastic" instead.
>
>Now Linux IS relatively compact and fast and DOES get past
>some of the old buggaboos inherent to DOS-derived systems,
>but Linux just isn't "ripe" yet. It needs DUN boxes and
>"Network" panels which HELP you with things and show all
>the pertinent options and conflicts right there.
>
>Someone could make a LOT of money if they could put together
>a turn-key Linux-based file/print server package which could
>autoconfigure most things and be really easy and helpful on
>the rest. Something you take out of the box and 20 minutes
>later you have a good working server. You can do that with
>Winders, but not with Linux unless you apparently have put
>in a tremendous number of obsessive hours.
>
>Now you thought I was just gonna flame ... nope. I've been
>relatively polite and realistic here. There are MANY issues
>to address, MANY refinements to be made before Linux becomes
>a really good option for administrators of small/medium networks.
>As much as I dislike Winders, it's a positive relief to boot
>back into it after fooling around for hours in vain with Linux.
>Preferring Winders to ANYTHING ... IMHO that's a pretty severe
>indictment. Linux has been badly over-sold. If it weren't so
>cheap it would be a rip-off ... a hobby OS masquerading as
>the "real deal".
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bruce OBrien)
Subject: Wingate, proxy, netscape and linux
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:25:56 GMT
Hi, I'm a newbie with linux.
As soon as I know more about Linux i'm going to flush Mr. Gate
I have an Internet restaurant, 8 computers for internet and 10 for
games all in windows network.
It's a great place to learn.
I want to slowly tranfer all my internet dedicated computers on linux
software but I have a lot to learn.
I installed Redhat 5.2 with no problem at all, it's working well, I
can telnet, see the other computers in the network but:
I can't configure Netscape to pass by my win95 proxy box. It's
wingate software. I won't buy Sygate because as soon I know how linux
can do the job... Win 95 will go to the city dump. And i'll show all
my customer how to use Linux and how it's better than Microsoft to
stay free. So long using windows my brain was getting lazy.
Until then I would like to put 3 workstation with Linux to access the
web, ftp and irc. I need them to pass by my wingate machine :
192.168.0.1. In win 95 we just have to go in explorer option or
mirc option and set the proxy server. In linux netscape I don't find
nothing about it.
I'm on the cable modem with dynamic ip, the other machine are name
respectively from 192.168.0.2 to 10.
When this setup I think I can go on and learn the rest: Linux dns,
proxy, mail, users, apache and samba.
Sorry if iM not clear enoff I'm french.
Bruce OBrien, Quebec
****** Times bring knowledge to the patient student ******
****** Le temps apporte la connaissance a l'etudiant patient ******
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From: "Jim Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Terminators and thinnet
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 17:17:30 -0500
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75 ohm terminators will absolutely NOT work. I'd say that that's where =
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Jim
Boris Statnikov wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
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Reply-To: "Tom Hulley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Tom Hulley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Dialup using NIC IP address
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:27:16 -0500
On your PPP connection use the option "noipdefault". This should allow the
PPP connection to accept the ISP offered address instead of the NIC address.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dan Christiansen wrote in message <78iopk$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I have RedHat 5.2 on an Intel box. If I have a NIC installed my dialup
>connection will use the IP address of the NIC. It's tough to access the
>internet when it does that. Occasionaly it will use the DHCP address from
my
>ISP. Even if I disable the NIC, remove the address info using Linuxconf and
>reboot the NIC address is still there. Any ideas anyone?
>
>
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 03:00:38 +0000
From: Paul Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: help samba -> Gethostbyaddr failed for 90.0.0.4
Villy Kruse wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Malware <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Hi William,
> >
> >you wrote:
> >> I vaguely recall reading of 98's inability to connect to a samba machine due
> >> to MS preventing LanMan passwords. Unfortunately I was unable to locate the
> >
> >Within the Samba distribution a text file ENCRIPTION.txt is included
> >which is about this problem.
> >
> >
> >Malware
>
> They even include some .reg files you can copy to your Win/NT system and
> double click on the file, and this will install the registry patch.
>
> I would recommend, though to enable encrypted password in samba and use
> smbpasswd.
>
> Villy
I assume that you are talkng about this (from the how to's):
Procedure:
1) Launch the Registry Editor as follows:
Click on: /Start/Run
Type "regedit" and press enter.
2) Double click on: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
3) Locate the following Key:
/HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlSet/Services/VxD/VNETSUP
4) From the menu bar select Edit/New/DWORD Value
5) Rename the entry from "New Value #1" to:
EnablePlainTextPassword
6) Press Enter, then double click on the new entry.
A dialog box will pop up and enable you to set a value.
You must set this value to 1.
This has not helped me.
paul
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 16:03:06 -0800
From: Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: GTE, DSL and Linux
I just got off the phone with a GTE rep who told me in no uncertain
terms that GTE will not install ADSL if the connected machine runs
UNIX, Linux, any MacOS, or Win 3.1. I briefly explained to her that
this didn't make sense to me. DSL is a datalink layer protocol and
there are no special software or routing requirements. I was informed
that this refusal is a matter of _policy_ and has noting to do with
the technical requirements of the CPE. She even told me that if I
asked for the service and later it was discovered I had one of the
forbidden opsys's the installation techs would refuse to complete the
install!
This sounds fishy to me. After all, an ADSL modem is basically a
protocol converter for ethernet to DSL and v. v. -- or am I missing
something. That a regulated common carrier should install the service
for some customers but not for others seems a little suspicious. Has
anyone else had similar experiences with their Telco refusing to
install DSL is you are running a forbidden system? Am I missing
something about the technology or is this just Telco bullheadedness.
Frankly I am ready to write the CPUC and complain about this but I'd
like to be sure I am on solid technical ground. It's not as if there
is any competitor I can go to for the service...
--
Stephen Carville
---------------------------------------------------------------
Civilization, as we know it today, owes it's existence to the
engineers. These are the men who, down the long centuries, have
learned to exploit the properties of matter and the sources of power
for the benefit of mankind.
L. Sprague DeCamp
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From: Raymond Lillard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cookies, Smashing them, How-to?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:50:53 -0800
Jim Richardson wrote:
[ ... ]
> To stop the insidious spread of cookies. Simply make a softlink to the
> bitbucket /dev/null from the cookie file. 'frinstance. in your netscape home
> dir (probably $HOME/.netscape) type
>
> ln -s /dev/null /a
>
> This will mean that any cookie written to the cookies file, will be redirected
> to the bit bucket. You don't have to deal with clicking no on a bunch of
> requestors, or being refused access because you refuse to accept cookies.
don't you mean:
ln -s /dev/null cookies
Works for me.
Ray
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PPP LCP timeout: MRU contention
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 04:32:16 GMT
I'm using RedHat 5.0 and I've been trying to configure PPP for a particular
ISP, and I keep getting the "LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests" message. I
put the entry in my /etc/syslog.conf to write pppd's debug output to a file,
and this is what I saw in the first several messages (I'm cutting the
date/time/host info from the beginning of the lines to save space):
Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/modem
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <mru 552> <magic 0xf476> <pcomp> <accomp>]
rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x1 <mru 1500>]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x2 <mru 552> <magic 0xf476> <pcomp> <accomp>]
rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x2 <mru 1500>]
sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x3 <mru 552> <magic 0xf476> <pcomp> <accomp>]
rcvd [LCP ConfNak id=0x3 <mru 1500>]
etc. etc. It goes on like this for about 30 seconds before the "timeout"
message comes out and the connection drops. It looks like my system is
saying "Please give me mru = 552" and the ISP keeps responding "No! Your mru
is 1500!" After the first 10 sent/rcvd pairs the ConfNak's change to ConfRej,
and they just keep going at it.
I can think of the following lines of attack:
1) Just give up and tell pppd that if he wants 1500, give him 1500 and don't
argue.
2) Contact the ISP and ask if this is really the way they want their server
to work.
3) Ask for suggestions from the accumulated wisdom of this newsgroup.
By the way, the program I'm using is a thing called "eznet" that makes PPP
setup very simple, and lets you set suid so that any user (not only root) can
initiate and close a connection. For info, the URL is:
http://www.hwaci.com/sw/eznet/
David Friedman
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From: Landen Stoker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Compatible CDRW Drive Recommendations??
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:32:30 -0600
I need to install a CDRW drive in a linux server this week, for backup
purposes. Can anyone recommend a good reliable IDE drive. Also is there
any problems commonly encountered installing CDRW under linux, and where
can I find any more information about CDR's or CDRW's and Linux?
Thanks
Landen Stoker
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From: Norman Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Linux machines 2 nics and a hub and something is wrong?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 05:42:42 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Have you got
order hosts bind
in /etc/host.conf
otherwise they might not be looking at each other :-)
HTH
norm
Darren Ford wrote:
>
> I will do this as soon as I can. I've tried adding routes to the routing table
> using 'route add XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX but this din't change anything. I'm sure I have
> something screwed up. If I'm only using the /etc/hosts file does it even use the
> routing table?
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > Darren Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Folks, I am about to go crazy here with problems. I have two machines
> > > both running Red Hat 5.0. Both have NICs and are recognized during the
> > > boot process. I reinstalled Red Hat on both machines to get a fresh
> > > start. During the install I chose to set up networking for each
> > > machine.
> >
> > How about sending the results of ifconfig and route for both machines to the
> > group. This might help in locating the problem. Route is probably where the
> > problem will be found.
> >
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Looking for HOWTO for Win95/Linux network with crossover cable
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 21:35:45 GMT
Hi,
I'm trying to set up a Linux/Win95 'network' using a crossover cable and 2
NICs.
Can someone point me to a HOWTO to configure the card in Linux?
I've searched around a lot and can't find any documents. Any help would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
--dave
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From: Peter W <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: TULIP CHIPSET: 10/100 Nic Anywhere?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 23:14:13 -0500
Will Lyster wrote:
> Looking for a 10/100 NIC that uses the Tulip chipset. Please respond to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks
The Netgear FA310TX might be a good choice. Older SMC EtherPowers used Tulip;
but not the newer ones. For more info I'd look at the Tulip mailing list
archives on http://www.tux.org/hypermail/
-Peter
--
Is Big Brother watching you? Intel is planning on it.
With Pentium III, there won't be any online privacy. Act now.
http://www.privacy.org/bigbrotherinside/
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From: Darin Ernst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Linux to ISDN router to ISP: sendmail can't send
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:28:09 -0500
Darin Ernst wrote:
> Raymond Doetjes wrote:
>
> > Well your DM change is the problem! Since some ISP's reject relaying
> > SMTP when it comes from unkown domains. So you should set your ISP domain
> > name in it.
> >
> > Raymond
>
> I think you are right in general,but the DM field of sendmail.cf
> apparently isn't the problem. I tried changing the DM field to my
> isp's domain, and to blank, and got the same error message. I wonder
> if you may be right if it's the envelope that's the problem. Except
> I don't know how to masquerade the envelope without reading volumes
> upon volumes...
>
> Thanks again,
> Darin
There is one solution that seems to work, but only if my Linux username is
the name as
the username on the "smart relay host", i.e.,
In sendmail.cf, set
DMwork.com
Djwork.com
DSwork.com
Then mail can be sent and recieved as "[EMAIL PROTECTED]", using work.com as a
smart relay host.
It looks like the case where your username is different on the local host than
on the
mail relay might be handled with a generics table, but I'm not sure. There is
some
useful info at www.lege.com.
If anybody has further ideas, please add them...
Thanks,
Darin
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From: John Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Routing Question (NEWBIE)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:53:27 -0600
I am trying to use my Redhat 5.2 box to route internet information. I
have a strange need though. I want all computers (5) on 192.168.0.x to
have direct internet access to all ports (HTTP, FTP, Games(2000-40000))
so a proxy is out. The host computer has a 10base connection direct to
the internet. (At Auburn University, AL) The computer is not behind a
firewall.
Is this possible, at all? With Linux, Unix NT or the like? Any input
would be appreciated, as I am new to this.
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From: Sebastian Wangemann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problems with netatalk
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:52:58 +0100
I have installed AppleTalk at my Linux (SuSe 6.00).
Every time, I boot up, I get the following stuff:
Starting netatalk: nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out
Can't register heinz:Workstation@*
nbp_rgstr: Connection timed out
Can't register heinz:netatalk@*
(My Linux-Server is called 'heinz')
Content of atalkd.conf::
eth0 - phase 2 -addr .... -zone "..."
Content of afpd.conf:
_
Don't know more about it.
Someone to help me?
Thanx.
H.Tilger
________________________________
Hendrik Tilger
Max-Planck-Institut f�r Biogeochemie
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Norman Elliott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can Linux do Peer-to-Peer Networking ?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:04:05 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Cheryl L. Nobile" wrote:
>
> First, please be patient, I'm a Linux Red Hat 5.2 newbie (I loaded it last
> night).
>
> Can I add my Linux machine to my peer-to-peer 98 network?
>
> I've installed Samba from the CD, but now have no clue.
>
> Thanks, in advance, for your help.
you need to configure Samba and your Linux box in the same domain (
workgroup ) as your win98 network
read the Samba HOW-TO for the details
HTH
norm
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tessai)
Subject: This is a question about hardware + networking
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 06:32:41 GMT
When I installed Linux (RedHat) I was using a cable modem line that
connected to an ethernet card in one of my PCI slots. My provider uses
dhcp to issue IP addresses, so I had eth0 use dhcp on startup. Also,
at this time, I was using kernel 2.0.34. In addition, I was using LILO
to load both Linux and Windows. My hard drive crashed. I bought a new
one and tried to reinstall Linux on the new drive. This time, however,
I used a boot disk, which I assume uses the same kernel that is
compiled during installation. Now, when I load up Linux, using the
boot disk, it says that it is delaying dhcp for my eth0 device, which
has not been changed, and was configured to run at startup. If you
have any suggestions, please let me know.
Tessai
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From: "Andrew Janssen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Display
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 22:38:12 -0800
Thomas Chai wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Looks like you have an IRQ conflict....I have that problem a while ago with
>my 3c509 TP card. The kernel loaded it up to IRQ 10 by default. And the
>network can;t work...until I realised that my display card uses IRQ 10....
>
Umm Display cards use IRQS?
OKay, I'm having problems getting Xwindows to run, it said it had problems
with my S3 Virge settings. (PCI Card) My motherboard is set so my Vid Card
dosn't have an IRQ. Am I supposed to change that for Xwindows, and what
would be the most common setting?
My other cards in the system: OPTI930 sound card, PNP ISA
RealTech Ethernet, PCI
Do I set the PNP manually in the BIOS? How will it affect my Win95
partitan? (Dual boot setup)
I know I hit a few tangents.. I am quite green at this. What a change from
the WinDOS machines! (I don't know how much I like it.. yet..)
Anybody got a good beginners Linux book review for me?
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