Linux-Networking Digest #16, Volume #10          Wed, 27 Jan 99 06:13:52 EST

Contents:
  Re: GTE, DSL and Linux ("Jerry Walter")
  Samba Printing (geoffrey george hing)
  Re: Nt & linux (David Kirkpatrick)
  Re: NICs (MRoman)
  Re: Kernel 2.2 Stable Problem with RealTek 8129/8139 ethernet  (Tim Moore)
  Default Gateway interferes with PPP? (Darren Enns)
  Re: Linux-Router - HELP (Stuart Lynne)
  Re: Why Does Linux Networking Suck So Badly ? (PC^God)
  Networking nitemare + samba (Bryan Wilcutt)
  Re: need help setting up realaudio IP masquerading -SUCCESS (Eugene Koontz)
  Re: Upgrade RH5.1 >> RH5.2 ("Ron van Middendorp")
  Re: Win98 + Linux (samba) (David Kirkpatrick)
  Re: Slow to connect, but then OK (David Kirkpatrick)
  How do I set up print quota? (Andreas Schuderer)
  Re: Disappearing Default IP Route (James Youngman)
  help on two NIC's and ARP !!! (Thomas Meier)
  PPP chat script variables - how? (Ken Williams)
  POP3 server for RH 5.1 (Enrique Terrazas)
  Re: Linux & Win98 / Win95 ("Ron van Middendorp")

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From: "Jerry Walter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: GTE, DSL and Linux
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 07:51:10 -0500

Stephen;

I have ran into a similar wall with GTE in our area. Instead of them
refusing me access because
of their "policy" against certain OS's, they do not support ISDN or ADSL in
the local switching center,
and have no plans in the future to do so. Now before everyone makes jokes
about my geographical location,
I realize that we are not located in a major metropolitan area, but 10 miles
away Ameritech offers the same service.
As far as I am concerned, GTE is not very responsive to their customer base.

Stephen Carville wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I just got off the phone with a GTE rep who told me in no uncertain
>terms that GTE will not install ADSL if the connected machine runs
>UNIX, Linux, any MacOS, or Win 3.1.  I briefly explained to her that
>this didn't make sense to me.  DSL is a datalink layer protocol and
>there are no special software or routing requirements.  I was informed
>that this refusal is a matter of _policy_ and has noting to do with
>the technical requirements of the CPE.  She even told me that if I
>asked for the service and later it was discovered I had one of the
>forbidden opsys's  the installation techs would refuse to complete the
>install!
>
>This sounds fishy to me.  After all, an ADSL modem is basically a
>protocol converter for ethernet to DSL and v. v. -- or am I missing
>something.  That a regulated common carrier should install the service
>for some customers but not for others seems a little suspicious.  Has
>anyone else had similar experiences with their Telco refusing to
>install DSL is you are running a forbidden system?  Am I missing
>something about the technology  or is this just Telco bullheadedness.
>Frankly I am ready to write the CPUC and complain about this  but I'd
>like to be sure I am on solid technical ground.  It's not as if there
>is any competitor I can go to for the service...
>
>--
>        Stephen Carville
>        ---------------------------------------------------------------
>Civilization, as we know it today, owes it's existence to the
>engineers. These are the men who, down the long centuries, have
>learned to exploit the properties of matter and the sources of power
>for the benefit of mankind.
>                                                     L. Sprague DeCamp
>
>
>



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From: geoffrey george hing <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Samba Printing
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 18:49:26 -0500



Hello,

I am trying to set up printing from my linux box to a HP Inkjet printer
attached to a Win '98 box.  I assume the best way to do this is through
smbclient.  However, I have followed the directions in the how-to on the
LDP page and it is still very broken.  I would appreciate it if anyone
who got this set up could tell me any special steps that they had to
take or send me a copy of their /etc/printcap file and their
/usr/bin/smbprint files to see what they did.

Thanks,
Geoff


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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Nt & linux
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:55:54 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

General, Samba:
=========================================
The deal is going right to the doc makes
Samba look like a monstrous task which its
not.  You can hack a bit get it up and
like it so much you'll be happy to read
the doc for specific tweaks. It almost
makes those NT systems worth keeping.
=======================================
Assumes you selected ppp to be installed
when building your distribution and at
least for RH 5.2 its generic setup runs 
smbd and  nmbd so your ready to go. 
1. Edit /etc/smb.conf for a view of what's
going on.  The first section is for general
settings and the second more specific to
identifying drives to share and their
setup.
2. A got-ya is setting up samba passwords.
See man smbpasswd for 5 minutes of reading
to eliminate several hours of thrashing.
3. On problem between MS and SMB is
encryption.  Selecting yes in smb.conf
turns on encryption to match MS NT systems.
========================================
4. After fudging and hacking /etc/smb.conf
a few times get with the SMB HOWTO's to 
correctly tweak the values in /etc/smb.conf.
===========================================
5. For remote announce put in your network,
192.168.1.255 for a class C network.  A 
network subnetted behind a router does not
have to be specified here.  It will be seen
if the router to Linux is NT. Will probably
work with Linux as a router also.
==========================================
6. If your connecting your box to an NT server
and Wins is enabled then wins server = your
wins hosts card IP address.
==========================================
7. Copying between NT and Linux will put upper
case filenames to lower case by default.  This
is settable.  Grep smb.conf for preserve case.
==========================================
8. The drive specifications are simple just
fill'em in.  You might want to add preserve case
to each one just in case or make them specific.
Look at the example's and clone them. 
==========================================
The deal is going right to the doc makes
Samba look like a monstrous task which its
not.  

Levon Barker wrote:
> 
> Use Samba.
> 
> If you have the Red Hat Distribution check out /etc/smb.conf
> 
> FireDragon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >I have a question...
> >
> >We run a little NT LAN at home, and have recently aquired another machine,
> >which is running Linux, which we would love to have on the LAN, but
> somehow,
> >it just doesn't want to co-operate. I can telnet into the Linux machine
> from
> >one of the NT machines, but that is about it. Is it possible for us to get
> >the Linux machine to actively participate in the rest of our domain, or
> will
> >it remain an outcast for ever?
> >
> >Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >FireDragon
> >
> >

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From: MRoman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
de.com.os.linux.networking,ka.lists.linux.newbie,linux.act.newbie,linux.dev.newbie
Subject: Re: NICs
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 02:40:13 -0600

I had a problem like this starting out.  I made a bootdisk for dos, got into
the nic's dos config proggy, set it to non PnP mode, and *most importantly* set
the io address to something free.  I wrote this address down...

Then i went back into linux (slackware), went into my /etc/rc.d/rc.modules
file, edited a line to say:

/sbin/modprobe ne io=0x240

that's my special case tho, for someone else this would be more appropriate:

/sbin/modprobe ne io=0x[insert your NIC's IO addy here, hope u wrote it down
like I did]

That was it!  The dos config addy makes sure the assigned io addy it writes
doesn't conflict with anything.  Good luck!

cInDeR wrote:

> hey does anybody know how to properly install to NICs and configure them in
> LINUX w/out conflicts??
>
> cInDeR


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 00:42:21 -0800
From: Tim Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.development,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Kernel 2.2 Stable Problem with RealTek 8129/8139 ethernet 

Haven't compiled yet but remember seeing a suggestion to use something
besides xconfig.  Or just manually set the config to =m or =y.

Several upgrade guides on http://www.linuxhq.com/
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"Everything is permitted.  Nothing is forbidden."
                                   WS Burroughs.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Darren Enns)
Subject: Default Gateway interferes with PPP?
Date: 26 Jan 1999 17:33:10 -0600

This is what my laptop Linux 'netup' script looks 
like:

insmod 8390
MODPATH=/lib/modules/2.0.34/net:/lib/modules/2.0.34/pcmcia
export MODPATH
insmod pcnet_cs
ifconfig eth0 inet 192.168.0.3 netmask 255.255.255.0 up
route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 eth0
#route add default gw 192.168.0.2 eth0
/usr/sbin/routed

I noticed that I could not have BOTH my PPP connection
running *and* a local network running if I had that
'route add default gw...' stuff.  So I commented it
out and it works fine.

Could someone explain in 'easy' terms why this is so?
I am also very fuzzy on the 'routed' stuff.

Thanks

Dare
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Subject: Re: Linux-Router - HELP
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stuart Lynne)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 08:48:10 GMT

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Gilbert Jacolbia  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Gary Lake wrote:
>
>> I recently just did this....I got the two NIC's running....but I still not
>> routing packets
>>
>> in my /etc/conf.modules I had to add
>> alias eth0 ne
>> alias eth1 ne
>>
>> and at the end added the options
>>
>> options ne io=0x300,0x360  (substiture the IO addresses for your cards
>> 0x300,0x320 in your example)
>>
>> Hope this happens

>
>Actually I managed to let thessystem detect the NIC's after so many tries by
>doing the following;
>
>after loging in as root;
>
>a)    insmod ne "io=0x300,0x320"
>b)    ifconfig eth0 xx.xx.xx.xx netmask xx.xx.xx.xx
>c)    ifconfig eth1 xx.xx.xx.xx netmask xx.xx.xx.xx
>d)    ifconfig  ====> to confirm connection
>e)    backup_config ====> to save changes....but gives me Buss error ????..
>could it be IRQ conflict??
>
>By the way the above configuration is being done on a Linux-Router from
>LRP/Fireplug..

Do you see the same problem running backup_config before you try running
insmode etc?

I've only seen the "Bus Error" problem on systems with hardware problems.
I would suspect bad memory or CPU.

Do you have another system you could try this on?                                      
  

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From: PC^God <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Why Does Linux Networking Suck So Badly ?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:41:03 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

j wrote:
> 
> The sheer number of messages posted here - usually half going
> unanswered - tells the tale ... Linux networking sucks.

[snippage]

note: if any part of this message sounds like a flame, it wasn't
intended to be

1) Linux is not an ms-dos clone... it is a simply a different flavor of
unix... dos is a scaled down, easier to ues, version of unix, with no
multi-tasking and one user

2) I've seen almost every mainstream operating system around since '88.
I'd much rather try to hack away at some obscure config file or patch
some source code than enter a phone number, click three times, and say
"there's no place like home" to get on the internet. UN*X isn't (and
probably never will be) meant to be easy for the average Joe to
configure and use. Also, being able to configure a network connection
under UN*X teaches you how networking works. Then, when you get those
obscure errors under windows, you have an idea of what to do about it.

3) Any UN*X type OS should be used for services that need ~100% uptime.
I've seen Solaris machines that haven't been rebooted in over a year
with no problem whatsoever. Compare that to any flavor of windows or
even MacOS. I always loved restarting my computer whenever I installed a
new program or driver. (fwiw, my linux partition boots in less than 1/4
the time as my windows partition running the same [or less] services) 

4) Even windows isn't "foolproof". Everyone in my building here at
college ask me to "set up the internet" on their windows and MacOS
machines. For some people, computers aren't their cup of tea. they are
scared of them. I have never heard anyone say "can you show me how to
set ______ up on my computer?" it's always "do this for me." 

5) I would never call UN*X "user friendly." A programming teacher once
said to me "assume that the user is an idiot." that's how windows and
macs are designed. I can't speek for everyone reading this, but I'm not
a idiot. I also don't need dancing paperclips :-)

6) I would never recommend anyone (unless I knew them and their computer
knowladge) install anything other than windows on their machine. Like it
or not, Microsoft dominates the marketplace, makeing hardware for macs
expensive (of course apple helped with that), and life for anyone not
using windows a lot harder (thank you Plug and Pray). UN*X is only
sutible for those who can relate to "The Hacker's Manifesto."

All I use windows for now is playing multi-player StarCraft.
I think that was about $1.50 worth :-)

-- PC^God --

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From: Bryan Wilcutt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Networking nitemare + samba
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 09:50:25 GMT

I have 4 computers networked together.

Computers a, b and c have their own IPs ala Cox Cable (we're using cable
modems here).  Cox has us all set up with their DNS server, gateways,
etc.  I want to add a Linux box to this mess but NOT have to get it it's
own IP address from Cox.  Instead, I'll change the subnet address we are
all using ala an IP calculator.  Luckily, all of us are on the same
subnet.

This being the case, I cannot get computers a, b and c to talk to the
Linux SAMBA for beans.  If I throw up some ethernet cables and connect
the computers up directly, they all talk just fine.

I tried the "allow hosts" in the smb.conf file to include computers a, b
and c.  I tried modifying the Win 98 hosts file, etc.  No luck.

All computers can ping each other just fine (via IP address and names),
so that much does work.

I'm no networking guru, hopefully someone out there is.

Thanks in advance for any help you can render to my problem.

Bw
Arizona

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From: Eugene Koontz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: need help setting up realaudio IP masquerading -SUCCESS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:52:34 -0800

Eugene Koontz wrote:

> machine can send and receive at the proper ports? I tried doing on the
> first machine : insmod ip_masq_raudio ports=7070
> which *seems* to have worked, (no feedback from the shell), but no
> improvement on the second machine's ability to play remote realaudio
> files.


well, to follow up on my own message :

I did :

modprobe ip_masq_raudio            


and it worked fine :^)

Anyone know difference between insmod and modprobe ..? Seems the former
did not work but the latter did..

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From: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Upgrade RH5.1 >> RH5.2
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:04:34 +0100
Reply-To: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks,

However this doesn't seem to be the problem.

Example For user Tesst:

In the file/home/Tesst/.bash_profile there is a line USERNAME=""
I put the username between the quotes, restarted the inet-service, and
everything works again.

Ron

<r d t@c s.q u e e n s u.c a (Bob Tennent)> wrote in message
news:78kv14$nql$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>On Tue, 26 Jan 1999 17:45:56 +0100, Ron wrote:
> >Hi!
> >
> >I upgraded RH5.1 >> RH5.2 and now only root can login. this goes for
local
> >and telnet-sessions. Am I missing something?
> >
>Try rm /etc/nologin



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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Win98 + Linux (samba)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:00:24 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Read the samba-howto.  If you installed samba the pppd will be 
run on startup and you only have a few more things to do.  Edit
/etc/smb.conf and go through the values.  Its not hard  The
bottom
part is where you specify your disk to share but the top part
needs
tweeking for your configuration.  See also man for
smbpassw<<critical
but easy.  Check things with smbclient -L switch.  It will show
you who its thinks are available for use.  Read smbclient.
   When are finally configured the Linux box will show up as an
computer icon on 98.  Can 98 be its own wins server?
   Before you do this you should be able to ping by address and
name.  Check /etc/hosts, networks and lmhosts.  Check c:\windows,
hosts, lmhosts and I think networks.
d

Patrick Batemen wrote:
> 
>     Someone, please tell me how to connect my win98 box and redhat box
> together, they were both running win98 and I had no problem, but I switched
> to linux on one computer. They both have Dlink DE220 network cards, are
> connected with coax, My win98 box:
> 
> IP:192.168.0.1
> subnet: 255.255.255.0
> name is: switch
> 
> Please help.  Tell me how to use this samba thing! it is version 1.9.15P8-2
> and appears to only run in console, please tell me how to use this, exactly
> what to do. I am driving myself nuts over this!!
> 
> Thankyou,
> 
> Trevor

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From: David Kirkpatrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow to connect, but then OK
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 17:03:01 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Who is doing the name resolving?  /etc/hosts /etc/lmhosts
/etc/networks, is named running.  You may get info from 
tcpdump -nei eth0 and see what's taking place for the
arp queries.
   Can you ping by hostnames?
d

Ben Sandler wrote:
> 
> I have two machines connected with a crossover cable.  They both have
> the same domain and the same subnet.  When I telnet from one to the
> other, it takes several minutes to get a login prompt.  But once I get
> it, the connection is as fast as typing on the local machine.  In a
> related story, nfs mounting gives up after about 30 seconds, and says it
> timed out.  It seems like ther physical connection is OK, but something
> is fundamentally wrong.  Any ideas???
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> - Ben
> 
> --
> Ben Sandler
> email me: sandler at ymail dot yu dot edu

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From: Andreas Schuderer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: How do I set up print quota?
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1999 23:02:59 +0100

Hello!

I am using SuSE Linux 6.0 and set up a print "server" in a 6-host
network using the printcap features. I know that there is some sort of
accounting which counts how much someone _has_ printed so far.

This works fine, despite some minor problems (like: everyone is allowed
to print even if the host is not listed in the hosts.eqv and hosts.lpd
files. If anyone could help me there, I would be glad.)

My actual question is: Is it possible to set up print quota accounts
for  particular users/hosts that you have to "charge" before printing?
BTW, I am using a dedicated server for this. So if it is necessary to
combine the print quota thing with login accounts, this would be
possible.

I've been looking for information on this topic for quite a long time
now and just did not find anything so far.

Any, really ANY information on this problem would be extremely welcome!

Andreas

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From: James Youngman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Disappearing Default IP Route
Date: 22 Jan 1999 20:15:06 +0000

"August Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>    I've got a problem that's plagued several Redhat 5.0 systems I've
> made.  I've used the network setup to set up the default IP route.
> This route works for 5-10 minutes and then disappears from the
> routing table.


This is a FAQ.  You installed routed/gated.  Stop the service and then
uninstall it.

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From: Thomas Meier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: help on two NIC's and ARP !!!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:10:19 +0100

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Hello,

I'm using Linux on my computers and I want to use two different NIC's on
each
machine, one ethernet card and one token-ring-like card to built a
redundant network of 4 machines.
1.) Is it possible to do that under linux and how can I do that (any
information or hints on using two NIC's would be helpful).
2.) The token-ring-like cards does NOT support ARP. How can I set up the
arp-table for using the cards.

Thanks for your help.

Tom

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ken Williams)
Subject: PPP chat script variables - how?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:04:59 GMT

Does the scripting for chat allow for variables?  Like below, would it work?  
If not, how would I get my chat script for PPP to work with variables?

$username = "user"
$password = "pwd"

OK ATDT234234234
ABORT "NO CARRIER"
ABORT BUSY
ABORT "NO DIALTONE"
ABORT ERROR
CONNECT ""
ogin:--ogin: $username
ssword: $pass

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Enrique Terrazas)
Subject: POP3 server for RH 5.1
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 01:06:34 GMT

Hello,

I have a Gateway PC running Red Hat 5.1.  I would like to install a POP3
server, but I am having difficulties.  I downloaded the rpm package for
qpopper (from contrib/libc5/i386/qpopper-2.52-1.i386.rpm) and did the rpm
install.  I also added the line to the inetd.conf:

# Pop and imap mail services et al
#
pop-3  stream  tcp     nowait    root    /usr/sbin/tcpd in.qpopper
#pop-2   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd ipop2d
#pop-3   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd ipop3d

Which brings up an interesting point:  originally the pop-2 and pop-3
lines were uncommented, however I did not have ipop2d or ipop3d installed
in my system.

However, when I try

telnet valhalla 110

I get the following message:

Trying xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx...
Connected to valhalla.xxx.xxx.
Escape character is '^]'.
Connection closed by foreign host.

Does anyone have any suggestions?  TIA.

-- 
Enrique Terrazas
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://pangloss.ucsf.edu/~terrazas/

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From: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux & Win98 / Win95
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1999 11:23:08 +0100
Reply-To: "Ron van Middendorp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

http://www.ualberta.ca/CNS/SAMBA/SambaandWindows95PasswordHandling.html
autodata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:788fbs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>This may be a dumb question ... but if I enable encrypted passwords in
>Linux, how can I get both my Win98 and Win95 machines to log into the
>network?
>
>I'm running RH 5.2 with SAMBA 2.0
>
>Gerald Jensen
>
>



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