Linux-Networking Digest #86, Volume #10           Tue, 2 Feb 99 09:13:44 EST

Contents:
  Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist ("Albert Ulmer")
  Re: can not ftp certain file types/more info (Ted Potter)
  SMTP/POP (Don Stafford)
  Re: can not ftp certain file types (Ted Potter)
  Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist ("Albert Ulmer")
  Re: Ping OK, can't FTP/Telnet/Samba ("jim")
  Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ ISA and Redhat 5.2 ("Baja")

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From: "Albert Ulmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:29:36 +0100

>It's to much to expect a really inexperienced user to manually
>load modules or recompile kernels just to access the CD-ROM drive the
>damn thing installed on.


You can't possibly be speaking about RedHat there, since CD-ROMs are
autoprobed during install. RedHat even creates a link to the physical
device.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
Subject: Re: can not ftp certain file types/more info
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:22:15 GMT

Following up here is some more infomration:

from my win95 box I go to
www.brownbearsw.com/icalv23.exe

the file starts to download and gets to about 36K and then stops,
stuck forever.

OK fine. telnet to my linux box and start up lynx

$ lynx www.brownbearsw.com/icalv23.exe

same thing. Starts to download gets to about 36K and then stops.


OK fine. telnet to my isp (whom thank goodness runs *nix) use lynx
and no problem, get the file.

OK fine. ftp to my isp, down the file. Same thing gets to about 36K
and then stops.

OK fine. telnet to my isp. gzip the file. logout. start ftp, download
file. Bingo no problem the file comes over.

Thinking it over the separate ftp program offered by Alan is not a
solution, the above mention site does not run an ftp server.

*sigh* I do hope some kind soul will find my post and offer some
ideas. I am stuck and of course this week every file I needed was
compressed with the  .exe extension.
Thanks again!




On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:14:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
wrote:

>
>Thanks for the post, yes it does work!  and for my purpose the
>solution will suffice. 
>
>However my clients would not likely to be able to cope wit using
>yet another application to get files off the net. 
>
>Is it the passive option that makes this program able to transfer
>files ?
>
>Surely people are using my type of setup and able to use just netscape
>to download files. 
>
>Anyone else out there have some comments ? - can someone tell me
>how they do what I am trying to do ? or can anyone else duplicate the
>problem I am having ?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:03:53 -0500, Alan Cohen
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Had the same problem
>>Using Terrapin FTP on Windows machine and ended the problem
>>Did not set up the firewall option in the FTP client and did set the
>>client to be passive
>>got the client at www.download.com
>>
>>Ted Potter wrote:
>>
>>> I have a redhat 5.0 system setup with ipfwadm running. From my windows
>>> machine I can run netscape and agent just fine. Real Audio works as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> However whenever I attempt to download a file that ends with an .exe
>>> extentsion the download gets stuck after about 36K
>>>
>>> This happens at anysite anytime. So I thought something was wrong with
>>> my ipfwadm setup.
>>>
>>> Using lynx from the redhat machine produces the same problem.
>>>
>>> I can download .zip .gz .tar files all day and night.
>>>
>>> This problem occures with both http and ftp.
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what more information I can get in order to
>>> troubleshoot this problem ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ted Potter
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Don Stafford)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux;
Subject: SMTP/POP
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:32:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have Redhat Linux 5.2 just installed
I have loaded the imap...rpm to get the POP server
When trying to send mail from a pc on the net - i get a message saying
it cannot relay a message
I would appreciate any help!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
Subject: Re: can not ftp certain file types
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:23:45 GMT

Following up here is some more infomration:

from my win95 box I go to
www.brownbearsw.com/icalv23.exe

the file starts to download and gets to about 36K and then stops,
stuck forever.

OK fine. telnet to my linux box and start up lynx

$ lynx www.brownbearsw.com/icalv23.exe

same thing. Starts to download gets to about 36K and then stops.


OK fine. telnet to my isp (whom thank goodness runs *nix) use lynx
and no problem, get the file.

OK fine. ftp to my isp, down the file. Same thing gets to about 36K
and then stops.

OK fine. telnet to my isp. gzip the file. logout. start ftp, download
file. Bingo no problem the file comes over.

Thinking it over the separate ftp program offered by Alan is not a
solution, the above mention site does not run an ftp server.

*sigh* I do hope some kind soul will find my post and offer some
ideas. I am stuck and of course this week every file I needed was
compressed with the  .exe extension.
Thanks again!




On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:14:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
wrote:

>
>Thanks for the post, yes it does work!  and for my purpose the
>solution will suffice. 
>
>However my clients would not likely to be able to cope wit using
>yet another application to get files off the net. 
>
>Is it the passive option that makes this program able to transfer
>files ?
>
>Surely people are using my type of setup and able to use just netscape
>to download files. 
>
>Anyone else out there have some comments ? - can someone tell me
>how they do what I am trying to do ? or can anyone else duplicate the
>problem I am having ?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:03:53 -0500, Alan Cohen
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Had the same problem
>>Using Terrapin FTP on Windows machine and ended the problem
>>Did not set up the firewall option in the FTP client and did set the
>>client to be passive
>>got the client at www.download.com
>>
>>Ted Potter wrote:
>>
>>> I have a redhat 5.0 system setup with ipfwadm running. From my windows
>>> machine I can run netscape and agent just fine. Real Audio works as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> However whenever I attempt to download a file that ends with an .exe
>>> extentsion the download gets stuck after about 36K
>>>
>>> This happens at anysite anytime. So I thought something was wrong with
>>> my ipfwadm setup.
>>>
>>> Using lynx from the redhat machine produces the same problem.
>>>
>>> I can download .zip .gz .tar files all day and night.
>>>
>>> This problem occures with both http and ftp.
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what more information I can get in order to
>>> troubleshoot this problem ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ted Potter
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>


On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 19:14:54 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted Potter)
wrote:

>
>Thanks for the post, yes it does work!  and for my purpose the
>solution will suffice. 
>
>However my clients would not likely to be able to cope wit using
>yet another application to get files off the net. 
>
>Is it the passive option that makes this program able to transfer
>files ?
>
>Surely people are using my type of setup and able to use just netscape
>to download files. 
>
>Anyone else out there have some comments ? - can someone tell me
>how they do what I am trying to do ? or can anyone else duplicate the
>problem I am having ?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
>On Mon, 01 Feb 1999 12:03:53 -0500, Alan Cohen
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>Had the same problem
>>Using Terrapin FTP on Windows machine and ended the problem
>>Did not set up the firewall option in the FTP client and did set the
>>client to be passive
>>got the client at www.download.com
>>
>>Ted Potter wrote:
>>
>>> I have a redhat 5.0 system setup with ipfwadm running. From my windows
>>> machine I can run netscape and agent just fine. Real Audio works as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> However whenever I attempt to download a file that ends with an .exe
>>> extentsion the download gets stuck after about 36K
>>>
>>> This happens at anysite anytime. So I thought something was wrong with
>>> my ipfwadm setup.
>>>
>>> Using lynx from the redhat machine produces the same problem.
>>>
>>> I can download .zip .gz .tar files all day and night.
>>>
>>> This problem occures with both http and ftp.
>>>
>>> Help!
>>>
>>> Can someone tell me what more information I can get in order to
>>> troubleshoot this problem ?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Ted Potter
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>


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From: "Albert Ulmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Which 'flavor' of Linux best for a M$ Separatist
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:34:29 +0100

>Being a pre-newbie, looking to get involved with Linus.  Which flavor would
>be the best to get involved with.
>
>Was thinking Caldera or Redhat....not sure though.


When it comes to userfriendlyness, both have to make way for the current
SuSE distribution (I think it's 6.0 right now). You get *everything*
including an easy to handle setup and configuration utility. There are great
sample installation presets (server, client, developer, mini etc.) and
almost all and any applications you can think of are included. Apart from
the setup program, SuSE also supports the RPM-format introduced by RedHat,
making it compatible with many packages you will find on the Internet. Go
check www.suse.com, it's worth it (let alone for the hardware-compatibility
database).



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From: "jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Ping OK, can't FTP/Telnet/Samba
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:48:45 -0800


David Kirkpatrick wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>   What is the result of nbtstat -n on windows and does it match
>the domain on linux?


Here it is...
#------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
Node IpAddress: [192.168.1.2] Scope Id: []

            NetBIOS Local Name Table

   Name               Type         Status
=============================================
DADDYS         <00>  UNIQUE      Registered
HOUSEHOLD      <00>  GROUP       Registered
DADDYS         <03>  UNIQUE      Registered
DADDYS         <20>  UNIQUE      Registered
HOUSEHOLD      <1E>  GROUP       Registered
JIM            <03>  UNIQUE      Registered
HOUSEHOLD      <1D>  UNIQUE      Registered
..__MSBROWSE__.<01>  GROUP       Registered
#------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------

>Are you using a non root login to login to Linux or are you
>getting that far?  When you say you can't telnet or ftp what
>error messages are you getting?


  I've tried various logins... Usually non-root... Most often as 'jim' (as
in nbtstat example above).

  FTP gives "connect: connection timed out" after :20-:30 seconds, then the
ftp prompt with no connection.  Telnet gives message box with "connect
failed!" in the title bar and no other info except for an "OK" button.

   By the way, both FTP and Telnet first try to fire up the modem to make a
dial-up connection.  I hit a "cancel" button on the dial-up message box and
the modem hangs up; then there's a flurry of flashing lights on the ethernet
hub (mostly on the Win95 port, but at least one flash on the Linux port).  I
would like to know how to make Win95 try the Ethernet first; but that seems
lower priority right now.  I know that when my LAN worked a week or so ago
that I had to cancel the dialup first and then FTP would connect over the
Ethernet.

  (The TCP/IP properties box for the NIC has an 'advanced' tab which has a
check box named "Set this protocol to be the default protocol."  It doesn't
seem to make Win 95 try the NIC any earlier...)


>   Why is workgroup=HOUSEHOLD rather than bogusdomain?

  My reading of the Win95 resource kit is that a workgroup isn't the same as
a domain... So that a company with one domain could use more than one
workgroup (i.e. 'SALES', 'PAYROLL', 'TECHSUPPORT', etc.).  I'll have to
fiddle with this some more...


>What are the complete names in lmhosts?

  The complete names are things like "penguin.bogusdomain.bogus".  (As I
just re-read my original message at the start of this thread I see that my
lmhosts file has each computer defined with and without the domain name;
that doesn't seem right.  The Windows resource kit is a little dense here,
but by my reading the Windows lmhosts should NOT have domain names, and the
Linux version SHOULD. (?))


> Is your passwd file setup - man smbpasswd?

  Smbpasswd is not set up (there are accounts and passwords set up for user
to logon to the Linux box locally).  I'll probably need to fiddle with this
too.  However, (a) it worked before without a smbpasswd file; (b) the man
page for smbpasswd seems to say that it's only needed if using encrypted
passwords; (c) I'm never presented with a chance to enter a password which
could checked against smbpasswd; and (d) would that account for my
FTP/Telnet woes?  (Sorry, I didn't mean to be so defensive!)

>   It would be good to see the result of trying to map tmp on
>penguin from daddys.


  This gives a message box saying something like "Network name either not
found on the running network, or is incorrect" then an offer to try finding
the share name via dial-up networking.  I've tried mapping a network drive
with both uppercase and lowercase share names.  (Actually, I think I've
tried everything I've done with both uppercase and lowercase.)

  Thanks for your message!  I'll keep trying stuff here...
     -Jim


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>jim wrote:
>>
>>   OK, this is driving this newbie nuts.
>>
>>   I fiddled with Linux for a week and got my home network running great.
It
>> has two Win95 box's and Linux on a 486.  Everything worked - FTP,Telnet;
I
>> could even browse the across the Network Neighborhood using Samba (both
Win
>> 95 to Linux, and Linux to Win95).
>>
>>   Then one of the Win95's had a NIC which was a little flaky... It'd
crash
>> the computer once or twice a day.  So I replaced it with a different
one -
>> and everything went to h*ck.
>>
>>   I think the new card is OK.  The two Win95 boxes cooperate fully across
>> the Network Neighborhood; and I can play Doom 95 using TCP/IP between
them.
>>
>>   I can still ping all around (by IP numbers and by names).  But I can't
FTP
>> or Telnet into the Linux Box.  (The Linux Box can FTP and Telnet itself).
>>
>>   The Linux box shows up in the Win95 Network Neighborhood, but when I
try
>> to browse it I get a 'server not available' message.
>>
>>   None of the config files have changed since the time it worked with the
>> old NIC.  Since this network is so small and unlikely to change, I was
doing
>> all my name resolving with the hosts & lmhosts files.  (i.e., no DNS or
>> WINS).  As I said, this worked once... And it still works for Ping.
>>
>>   My hosts file (for all three computers... the Linux box is named
penguin):
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> 127.0.0.1       localhost
>> 192.168.1.1     penguin
>> 192.168.1.2     daddys
>> 192.168.1.3     mommys
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   My lmhosts file (for all three computers):
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> 192.168.1.1 penguin
>> 192.168.1.2 daddys
>> 192.168.1.3 mommys
>> 192.168.1.1 penguin.bogusdomain.bogus
>> 192.168.1.2 daddys.bogusdomain.bogus
>> 192.168.1.3 mommys.bogusdomain.bogus
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   My smb.conf file:
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> #======================= Global Settings
>> =====================================
>> [global]
>>
>> # workgroup = NT-Domain-Name or Workgroup-Name
>>    workgroup = HOUSEHOLD
>>
>> # server string is the equivalent of the NT Description field
>>    server string = Samba Jan 14 16:30
>>
>> # Cause this host to announce itself to local subnets here
>>    remote announce = 192.168.1.255
>>
>> #============================ Share Definitions
>> ==============================
>> [homes]
>>    comment = Home Directories
>>    browseable = no
>>    writable = yes
>>
>> # This one is useful for people to share files
>> [tmp]
>>     comment = Temporary file space
>>     path = /tmp
>>     read only = no
>>     public = yes
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   Somewhere I got a procedure to diagnose Samba problems (OK, it was
>> http://us2.samba.org/samba/docs/DIAGNOSIS.html ).  The results of the
>> ten-step tests:
>>
>> Test 1. testparm smb.conf  -- Seems OK.
>>
>> Test 2. 'ping penguin' and 'ping daddys'  -- As I said, OK.
>>
>> Test 3. 'smbclient -L penguin' -- Gives the following results:
>>
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Added interface ip=192.168.1.1 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
>> Server time is Sun Jan 31 17:48:48 1999
>> Timezone is UTC-8.0
>> Domain=[HOUSEHOLD] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 1.9.18p10]
>> security=share
>>
>> Server=[PENGUIN] User=[root] Workgroup=[HOUSEHOLD] Domain=[HOUSEHOLD]
>>
>>  Sharename      Type      Comment
>>  ---------      ----      -------
>>  IPC$           IPC       IPC Service (Samba Jan 14 16:30)
>>  root           Disk      Home Directories
>>  tmp            Disk      Temporary file space
>>
>> This machine has a browse list:
>>
>>  Server               Comment
>>  ---------            -------
>>  DADDYS               Daddy's Dell XPS233
>>  PENGUIN              Samba Jan 14 16:30
>>
>> This machine has a workgroup list:
>>
>>  Workgroup            Master
>>  ---------            -------
>>  HOUSEHOLD            DADDYS
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   This all seems great.  The Dell XPS233 comment had to have come across
the
>> net.  (Mommy's computer was off when these diagnostics were run.)  The
>> 'HOUSEHOLD" workgroup is correct, and is set on all three computers.
>>
>> Test 4. 'nmblookup -B penguin __SAMBA__'  -- gives good results:
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Sending queries to 192.168.1.1
>> 192.168.1.1 __SAMBA__<00>
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>> Test 5. 'nmblookup -B daddys' -- Also seems good:
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Sending queries to 192.168.1.2
>> 192.168.1.2 *<00>
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>> Test 6. 'nmblookup -d 2 '*' ' -- Still good...
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Added interface ip=192.168.1.1 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
>> Sending queries to 192.168.1.255
>> Got a positive name query response from 192.168.1.2 ( 192.168.1.2 )
>> Got a positive name query response from 192.168.1.1 ( 192.168.1.1 )
>> 192.168.1.2 *<00>
>> 192.168.1.1 *<00>
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>> Test 7. 'smbclient \\\\penguin\\tmp'  -- No problems yet.
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Added interface ip=192.168.1.1 bcast=192.168.1.255 nmask=255.255.255.0
>> Server time is Sun Jan 31 17:59:35 1999
>> Timezone is UTC-8.0
>> Domain=[HOUSEHOLD] OS=[Unix] Server=[Samba 1.9.18p10]
>> security=share
>> smb: \>
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   That was the last test that worked.  Test 8 failed, which I'll cover in
a
>> moment.  First, I ran what I'll call Test 7.5 on the Win95 box:
>>
>> Test 7.5. 'net view'  -- gives:
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Servers available in workgroup HOUSEHOLD.
>> Server name            Remark
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
>> -----------------
>> \\DADDYS               Daddy's Dell XPS233
>> \\PENGUIN              Samba Jan 14 16:30
>> The command was completed successfully.
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   Again, the "Samba Jan 14 16:30" came across the net from my smb.conf
file.
>> Now test 8:
>>
>> Test 8. 'net view \\PENGUIN'  -- gives:
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>> Error 53: The computer name specified in the network path cannot be
located.
>> Make sure you are specifying the computer name correctly, or try again
later
>> when the remote computer is available.
>> #------------- Cut Here ----------------------------------------
>>
>>   That's all for now.  Sorry this was so long.
>>      -Jim
>
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From: "Baja" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.help,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ ISA and Redhat 5.2
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 07:02:23 GMT

Way to GO-O!!!

Thanks a lot man!!
The whole point of having this Linux was to get it on the web!

Baja


Stephen Carville wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Baja wrote:
>>
>> Hey, I'm having the exact same problem but I've got an NE2000 and I'm
>> running TurboLinux.  I know that I need to use 'io=0x300' but where the
heck
>> do I put it?  from reading a couple of posts in this thread, it makes me
>> think I have to recompile my kernel.  Am I right?  Also, where is the
cable
>> modem FAQ?
>>
>> I can't buy a new nic because I just bought this one, and I'm running it
on
>> a 486, so there's no PCI.
>
>Ad the information in /etc/conf.modules. Usually an ISA ethernet card will
>only need somethng like:
>
>alias eth0 ne
>options ne irq=10,io=0x300
>
>See man modprobe for details on the format.
>
>--
>Stephen Carville
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>----------------------------------------------------
>Management: The art of hiring intelligent, skilled individuals and then
>ignoring their advice.



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