Linux-Networking Digest #414, Volume #10          Sun, 7 Mar 99 14:13:52 EST

Contents:
  Re: Samba Question (bklimas)
  Help with Samba and Win 98 ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Slow ftp from Linux server ("Moshe Bar")
  Re: SAMBA, please? (bklimas)
  Re: ypbind to localhost + NIS slave? (Duncan Family)
  Re: Mirroring an NT-Server with Linux (Shannon Reis)
  Re: PPP problem with diald ("Glen Parker")
  Re: MCSE preparation exams ("Duane Elmer Smeckert")
  Re: teltnet; can't login (Michael John Erskine)
  Re: remote tar (Brian McCauley)
  Win95 not working with IP masquerading? (Swindbert von und zur Waffel)
  Re: IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests (Shannon Reis)
  Re: PCI modems in linux? ("Bob Stickel")
  Re: Help with Samba and Win 98 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Gerhart)
  simple routing question (Tina and Dean)
  Re: SSH Question ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Redundancy with 2 ISP's (Tae Ho Yum)

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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba Question
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 02:17:35 GMT

Rocky wrote:

> I'm relitively new to samba, and have configured smb.conf and all of that,
> now I was just wondering, how to use it.  How do I access windows98 files
> from linux and print from linux on a printer hooked-up to the 98 machine,
> and vice-versa.
>
> -thanks

Newbie here. You may find it useful to have a look at my hompage.
It contains some info on how I use Samba.

http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/FAQ.htm#mount_floppy_zipdrive
http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/FAQ.htm#samba_setup


Hope this helps. Best regards,

b.k.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help with Samba and Win 98
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:49:14 GMT

We here have a network running with samba server and win 95. recently one of
the memebers has migrated to win -98. We are unable to authenticate his
password. The samba server always responds as password incorrect what could be
thee possible problem

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From: "Moshe Bar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Slow ftp from Linux server
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 1999 12:48:37 +0200

Yes, it looks like a routing problem. Let us see your routint table with
netstat -rn

Also, check if the DNS works as well in both directions. Try putting each
others hosts in /etc/hosts


Moshe Bar


Keith A. Wright wrote in message ...
>Hi all,
>
>I have 3 computers : 2 win95 and 1 Linux (2.0.29).  The Linux box contains
2
>NICs and one is connected to a cable modem.  My problem is with FTP.  When
I
>ftp from the Linux box to one of the Win95 boxes the throughput is
extremely
>slow (about 18 KB/S).  When I ftp from the Linux box to the other Win95 box
>the rate is much better at about 150 - 200 KB/S.  I'm not sure what
>happened, but both used to work just fine.
>
>The funny thing is that if I FTP from somewhere out on the Internet to the
>"slow Win'95 computer" I get much faster throughput (I've seen 115 KBytes
>per second on good days).  So the problem doesn't seem to be with the
Win'95
>box?
>
>The problem seemed to come about when I installed the cable modem.  Maybe
>something in the routing table is causing problems?
>
>Thanks in advance for any suggestions
>
>Keith
>
>
>



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From: bklimas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: SAMBA, please?
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 02:20:09 GMT

James Wanless wrote:

> How easy is this using RedHat5.2 to "see" (MS)windows machines on a
> LAN - I haven't succeeded yet. Any pointers, please?
>
> --
>
> James Wanless
> http://www.jwanless.freeserve.co.uk

Nebie here. Have a look at our family hompage:

http://www.magma.ca/~bklimas/FAQ.htm#samba_setup

Hope this helps. Best regards,

b.k.



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From: Duncan Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ypbind to localhost + NIS slave?
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 17:59:46 +0000 (GMT)

In article <7btugi$kgv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   Thorsten Kukuk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Duncan Family <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > In article <7b4bgf$gcv$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >    Jean-Sebastien Morisset <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I'd like to configure my Linux box as an NIS slave, but I also want to
> >> bind on localhost. This way, if the NIS master goes down, my Linux box
> >> can still use and provide NIS services.

> >> I've configured ypbind, ypserv and yppasswdd, but cannot get the above
> >> configuration to work. Some details...

> > I'm having the same trouble with a setup similar to yours. 
> > If I set the ypclient to 192.168.0.3 (my machines ip address) 
> > NIS works fine but if I set it to 127.0.0.1 I get the 
> > following message from NIS 

> > refused connect from 127.0.0.1
> >     -> ignored (not a valid source host)

> Here is all you need: localhost is not allowed to connect to your
> ypserv process. Please check tcp_wrapper or securenets, and fix
> that.
>
>  Thorsten

I think that my tcp_wrapper and securenets is correct but
I'm probably wrong.
I have the following

/etc/hosts.allow

ALL: 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0
ALL: 255.255.255.255 0.0.0.0
ALL: 127.0.0.1/255.0.0.0
ypserv: 127.0.0.1/255.0.0.0

/var/yp/securenets

255.0.0.0 127.0.0.1
255.255.255.0 192.168.0.0

Isn't this correct? I added the ypserv entry after I saw
your other post on this thread. I thought that by having
the ALL: entry that all programs could access localhost
so ypserv didn't need its own entry.

Bye.

-Gareth


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From: Shannon Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mirroring an NT-Server with Linux
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 20:26:42 -0600

You could even make a shell script out of this, and add it to the crontab!

Jay Thorne wrote:

> Wolfgang Falk wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > has anyone an idea how to mirror an nt4.0 server on a linux-box? i need it
> > to prepare the replacement of this nt-server. this mirroring is just for two
> > weeks (in a huge multi-user area) to have two redundant servers, because of
> > several reboots on each machine. both should detect the reboot of the other
> > machine and take over the fileserver-tasks with the latest version of data
> > .. i know, it s not an easy job .. but if anyone can give me some hints i d
> > be very glad ;-)
> >
> > greetings,
> > hawk
> mount the NT disks on the linux box with smbmount. (comes with samba)
> cp -aR them to the linux fileshare areas.
>
> --
> Jay Thorne  The Net Result System Services [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Http://net.result.com
> Zoom 505 Effect page http://net.result.com/~jay
> Zoom 5xx series Patch Database: http://net.result.com/~jay/db.html


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From: "Glen Parker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: PPP problem with diald
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 18:27:41 -0800

>Mar  6 14:54:09   modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0    <<<<<<<<<<<<<


There is no module ppp0.  Either fix your diald config setup, or stick an
alias for ppp0 in /etc/conf/modules, like this:
alias ppp0 ppp

Maybe that will help?
Glen




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From: "Duane Elmer Smeckert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: MCSE preparation exams
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 18:28:24 -0800

Please take this to the advocacy group where you can
discuss without sending out of band jabber.

I am here to get and give help, not discuss the merits
and drawbacks of certifications and job tracks.

PRice wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I agree, but its a minimal investment for potentially a 10-20k payoff
>in salary. A semi-experienced NT/Network person doing self-study can
>do it in about 6 to 8 months. You're only out the cost of the books
>and tests. I think both the CNE and MCSE are over rated, but in my
>case, 2 previous employers gave me huge increases in salary and
>promotions just because of them.
>
>P
>
>On Sat, 06 Mar 1999 10:39:33 +0100, Raymond Doetjes
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>I agree Tim.
>>
>>MCSE is just a commercial stunt to make money. They do learn alot but it
>>is just stupid learning work. They don't learn howto troubleshoot a
>>problem nor do the really know the background of processes.
>>They know where to click but that is that. The don't know why things
>>work the way they do so they probably never go out and ask the right
>>questions. I think that is the most important thing in the I.T. This way
>>you can always ask for the help from a person whoms field it is. Most of
>>the MCSE people I know feel like they are god, but in fact they don't
>>know ass much as the say they do. ANd instead of asking a question they
>>just go out and fiddle on their own since they are to pride to ask since
>>they are MCSE certified. Then again I may have given them the answer
>>straight away.
>>
>>Raymond
>



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Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 18:11:48 +0000
From: Michael John Erskine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: teltnet; can't login

Wim De Maesschalck wrote:

> I have a linux-machine and I tried toe start a telenet-sssion (from a
> win98-computer) de linix-servershows up but don's give an login-promt,
> so I haven's even te opportunity to login.
> Where can be the problem ??????
>

man 5 hosts_accessAlso look at /etc/securetty

You probably haven't set things up to allow incoming connections.

> Greetings
>
> Wim.



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From: Brian McCauley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: remote tar
Date: 07 Mar 1999 14:25:04 +0000

Carlo Bertelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I know you can remote tar piping to rsh, but how to define network 
> permissions? Is the rmt program a safer strategy. If I have a /dev/st0 
> tape device, how should I address it from a remote machine in gnu 
> tar/rmt sintax?

rmt uses rsh anyhow.  All rmt does is allow better control of the tape
drive.  The security is as good or bad as the rsh implementation that
you use.

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From: Swindbert von und zur Waffel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Win95 not working with IP masquerading?
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 04:09:45 +0100

Hi

I have a cable modem and three PCs. One of those is my masquerading box.
It has one NIC and the IP that I've got from my cable provider.
Everything is connected to just one hub. I've simply put ipfwadm -F -p
masquerade since I only have one NIC in the masquerading gateway. Now,
on my working PC I have installed Linux and Win95. For both OSes I made
the very same network settings (some intranet IP and the masquerading
box as gateway). Why does Linux work and why does Win95 NOT work with
the same settings? Where is the difference? What do I need to change?

Be it Linux or Win95 running my main PC the little network consisting of
those three PCs and the cable modem is working perfectly alright - as
long as it does not come to the masquerading issue!

The masquerading box is a 386SX, 8MB with the Linux Router Project
minidistribution (2.0.36). Don't laugh at that poor old SX - it's doing
a very good job!

Could please send me a mail too? Best Regards... Thomas!


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From: Shannon Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 21:12:02 -0600

How about enabling DEBUG?

Also, you might need to set an asyncmap of 0a000 (most ISPs do)

Shannon

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hi everybody !
> Until the last month, I was running kernel 2.0.36 and pppd 2.2.0f-5 in my
> computer and everything works fine. The only strange thing was the message:
>
>      Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua2
> ->>> Unknown protocol (0x802b) received <<<- !!!!!!!!!
> and, after this:
>      local  IP address XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
>      remote IP address XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX
> and then, everything starts to work, (ping, telnet, internet connections, etc,
> etc, etc).
>
> This month, I upgrade my kernel to 2.2.2 and pppd to 2.3.5 in my computer
> and, using the same connection script:
>
> pppd connect  'chat -v "" ATDPXXXXXXX CONNECT "" ogin: usertest sword: *******
> User: network' /dev/cua2 115200 debug modem crtscts defaultroute
>
> I couldn't connect. My modem is a USRobotics Courrier X2 V.Everything 56K and
> the another guy is a USRobotics NetServer that just talk PPP protocol and
> without any kind of compression method enabled. The only obs is the fact that
> I expect my IP from it. All the messages showed in file /var/log/messages
> when I'm trying to connect with new pppd (2.3.5) and the new kernel (2.2.2)
> are:
>
> Feb 19 08:15:29 localhost kernel: CSLIP: code copyright 1989 Regents of the
> University of California Feb 19 08:15:29 localhost kernel: PPP: version 2.2.0
> (dynamic channel allocation) Feb 19 08:15:29 localhost kernel: PPP Dynamic
> channel allocation code copyright 1995 Caldera, Inc. Feb 19 08:15:29
> localhost kernel: PPP line discipline registered. Feb 19 08:15:29 localhost
> kernel: registered device ppp0 Feb 19 08:15:29 localhost pppd[524]: pppd
> 2.3.5 started by root, uid 0 Feb 19 08:15:30 localhost chat[525]: send
> (ATDPXXXXXXX^M) Feb 19 08:15:31 localhost chat[525]: expect (CONNECT) Feb 19
> 08:15:31 localhost chat[525]: Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost chat[525]:
> ATDPXXXXXXX^M^M Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost chat[525]: CONNECT Feb 19 08:16:06
> localhost chat[525]:  -- got it Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost chat[525]: send
> (^M) Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost chat[525]: expect (ogin:) Feb 19 08:16:06
> localhost chat[525]:  26400/ARQ/V34/LAPM/V42BIS^M Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost
> chat[525]: ^M Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost chat[525]: Welcome to USRobotics^M
> Feb 19 08:16:06 localhost chat[525]:  The Intelligent Choice in Information
> Access^M Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]: login: Feb 19 08:16:11
> localhost chat[525]:  -- got it Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]: send
> (usertest^M) Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]: expect (sword:) Feb 19
> 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]:  usertest^M Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost
> chat[525]: Password: Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]:  -- got it Feb 19
> 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]: send (*******^M) Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost
> chat[525]: expect (User:) Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]:  ^M Feb 19
> 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]: Login/Network User: Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost
> chat[525]:  -- got it Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost chat[525]: send (network^M)
> Feb 19 08:16:11 localhost pppd[524]: Serial connection established. Feb 19
> 08:16:12 localhost pppd[524]: Using interface ppp0 Feb 19 08:16:12 localhost
> pppd[524]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/cua2 Feb 19 08:16:45 localhost pppd[524]:
> IPCP: timeout sending Config-Requests Feb 19 08:16:46 localhost pppd[524]:
> Hangup (SIGHUP) Feb 19 08:16:46 localhost pppd[524]: Modem hangup Feb 19
> 08:16:46 localhost pppd[524]: Connection terminated. Feb 19 08:16:47
> localhost pppd[524]: Exit. Feb 19 08:18:29 localhost kernel: PPP: ppp line
> discipline successfully unregistered
>
> I don't know if this is important, but in my kernel I don't enabled IPX or
> AppleTalk protocols; ppp suport was built in the kernel and the "original"
> distribution used to install the new kernel, ppp-2.3.5 was RedHat 5.2.
>
> ANY kind of help will be VERY, VERY, VERY appreciate !
>
> Claudio Cuqui <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> System Analyst - TELETRIM COMPANY
> Sao Paulo - Brazil
> Voice: +55 11 534-0806
>        +55 11 9916-2061
> FAX:   +55 11 5506-9182
>
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From: "Bob Stickel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: PCI modems in linux?
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 22:03:21 -0500

On the bright side....I will acquiring about 10 to 12 USR 33.6 externals
from an ISP that went Livingston PM3....I think they all have power supplies
as they were all online and working up to the end of January. I'll post my
findings in this thread hopefully by Monday 3/8/99....maybe that will lessen
my previous faux pas about the internal pci....

Bob





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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rn?= Gerhart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help with Samba and Win 98
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 19:43:59 +0100


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Win98 (and WinNT) can just authenticate with encrypted passwords.
Now there are 2 possibilities.

either:
What you need is password encryption for the samba-server.
There's a good help file on your Linux-system:
ENCRYPTION.txt
It describes what to do if you want to encrypt your passwords.
This possibility makes sure intruders cannot read the passwords for your system
in plain text.

or:
change a registry on all Win98 (Win NT) computers you have:
run: regedit
now search for key:
/HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlSet/Services/VxD/VNETSUP
>From the menu bar select Edit/New/DWORD Value
Rename the entry from "New Value #1" to:
    EnablePlainTextPassword
Then set this value to 1.
Now Win98 (Win NT) accepts plain passwords.

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Win98 (and WinNT) can just authenticate with encrypted passwords.
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<br>There's a good help file on your Linux-system:
<br>ENCRYPTION.txt
<br>It describes what to do if you want to encrypt your passwords.
<br>This possibility makes sure intruders cannot read the passwords for
your system in plain text.
<p>or:
<br>change a registry on all Win98 (Win NT) computers you have:
<br>run: regedit
<br>now search for key:
<br>/HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/CurrentControlSet/Services/VxD/VNETSUP
<br>From the menu bar select Edit/New/DWORD Value
<br>Rename the entry from "New Value #1" to:
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<br>Then set this value to 1.
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From: Tina and Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: simple routing question
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 18:28:10 GMT

Ok, my brain hurts!  i just can't see what i am missing.  i think that
this is something very rudimentary but i just can't seem to make it
work.

    i have 3 boxes, 1 nt4.0 server, 1 nt4.0 wstn and 1 linux box.  The
linux box has 2 NIC's in it.  The plan: to be able to connect the two nt
boxes through the linux box.  as it stands i have the nt wstn at
10.32.0.2 and the nt serv at 10.64.0.2 with the corresponding linux
NIC's at 10.32.0.1 and 10.64.0.1.  from the wstn (10.32.0.2) i can ping
10.32.0.1 and 10.64.0.1 but not 10.64.0.2.  The same from the ntserv; i
can ping 10.64.0.1 and 10.32.0.1 but not 10.32.0.2.  What sort of
routing table(s) do i need on the boxes?  Do i need to set up special
routing tables on the nt boxes?  Is it obvious that i  am new to routing
?  Visually my setup looks like this:


10.32.0.2 (ntwstn)-------| 10.32.0.1 eth0 // linux box // 10.64.0.1 eth1
|---------10.64.0.2 (ntserv)


the ultimate goal (expect a few more cries for help as i make my way up
the learning curve) is to be able to browse the nt boxes from one
another and to use the modem in my linux box to connect to the internet
from both of the nt boxes.

thanks,
dean
_________________

tidbit:  want to be able to  do remote control on machines?  try
winvnc.  it's free and it comes in almost every flavour.  i am using it
to control both of the nt machines from my linux box.  it even has a
java version.
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/index.html


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: SSH Question
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 1999 03:05:55 GMT


> > : 1) I want to install SSH daemon (i.e. replace telnetd). Where I can find
> > : the source/binary for that?
> > : 2) Where I can find a SSH Client that run on Linux?

Offhand, I would suggest grabbing the source (both ssh and sshd come bundled
together) from one of the following sites: 
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/unix/security/login/ssh/ \ 
ftp://nic.funet.fi/pub/crypt/mirrors/ftp.dsi.unimi.it/applied-crypto/ \ 
ftp://rzsun2.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/pub/virus/crypt/ripem/ \ 
ftp://idea.sec.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/math/ \ 
ftp://ftp.univie.ac.at/security/crypt/cryptography/asymmetric/rsa/ \ 
ftp://isdec.vc.cvut.cz/pub/security/unimi/crypt/applied-crypto/

This list is from /usr/ports/security/ssh/Makefile on my FreeBSD box, so the
source might be labeled "FreeBSD" in some cases, but that shouldn't make any
difference.  I've yet to see a set of source that compiles on FreeBSD but
doesn't on Linux (and vice versa).

> > : 3) Where I can find a SSH Client that run on Windowz?

Can't help there.  Another problem is that, to my knowledge, there is *no*
windows `scp` client.  Bummer.

> > : Any other thing I should beaware of?

Yes.  If you plan on setting up RSA keypairs to allow password-less
authentication between machines, be sure to remember that each box uses the
*reverse* DNS name for authentication purposes.  Do an nslookup on the *IP* of
the machine you're connecting to (or from), and use that name rather than any
local hostname.

-Bill Clark

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tae Ho Yum)
Subject: Redundancy with 2 ISP's
Date: 7 Mar 1999 00:00:45 GMT

I am trying to set up a network where I am connected to 2 different
ISPs with redundancy.  I have set up machines with 2 connections before,
but they only listened to the 2 links.  The outgoing packets still went
through the default router which was statically set to a router on one
of the ISP's.  I want to be able to dynamically send the outgoing packets
to the other link in case the primary link goes down.  Any ideas on how
something like that can be done.

I can have 2 NICs in each machine for the 2 links or I figure I can
"safely" merge the 2 links with an ethernet switch.  Whichever way I do
it, the problem would be dyanamically setting a new default route when
the primary default route goes down.

Would I have to set up a router to do something like this.  I don't have
much experience with routing, but I started fiddling with routed.  It seems
like the routers that my ISP's don't use the same protocol that routed uses.
The routes never get established to them and when I force one by putting
something in /etc/gateways, it disapears after the 3 minute timeout.

Any tips, or pointers to where I can get more info on this would be
much appreciated.

tae




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