Linux-Networking Digest #716, Volume #10          Fri, 2 Apr 99 11:13:52 EST

Contents:
  Re: printing through samba ("William Evans")
  Re: Same irq on multiple ethernet card ("William Evans")
  Re: Odd line (to me) in messages file ("William Evans")
  Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? (Jon Slater)
  RTL8139 (Accton Soho NIC 310/311)/ RedHat 5.1 (Thomas Eicher)
  Dynamic update problems with Bind 8.2 (Stephen Carville)
  Re: no enough ip address ! (Erik Hensema)
  Re: Help Please: Linux 2.2.5 and BT Speedway ISDN (honestly new question) (Nick Kew)
  Re: MS-LINUX (Andre van Dijk)
  Re: RedHat Lousy Support ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: modem probs (Mark Johnson)
  Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? (Ronan Heffernan)
  Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else??? ("Thomas Horan")
  need help promoting linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: MS-LINUX (David Delikat)
  Not getting a banner back doing telnet ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  A basic question about installation (AMAE)
  Re: MS-LINUX ("Snoopy :-))")

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From: "William Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: printing through samba
Date: 02 Apr 1999 08:12:03 -0500

>>>>> "Greg" == Greg Weeks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Greg> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
    Greg>       "Gary S. Mackay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
    >> I now have printing working from the slackware box using the apsfilter.
    >> I can not get it to print from any of the WinXX boxes tho. I have the
    >> new Samba-2.0.3 installed and working fine. It runs the login scripts,
    >> maps drives, etc. I can see and attach to the printer in net'hood, but
    >> when I go to print, it errors saying access denied.

    Greg> Check the permissions on the spool directories. Samba writes the file
    Greg> you're trying to print as the user into whatever spool directory you
    Greg> tell it to. It then passes it to the local printing system with
    Greg> whatever command you tell it to use. If the user doesn't have write
    Greg> access in whatever directory you told it to use. BOOM, access denied.

Specifically, check the "path" in the printers section (or for the
specific printer, if you aren't mapping them all).  Mine (for whatever
reason) is /var/spool/samba/.  One suggestion was to make it rwx-world
with the sticky bit set (which prevents user A from deleting a file
from user B).  If you need to do this, as root do

        chmod 1777 /var/spool/samba/

or whatever directory is being used.

I'm using the RH packages for samba (*shrug*), and they frustratingly
don't set up that perm.  Granted, I understand the security
implications, but when I upgraded and didn't know that they changed
this, it took me a while to figure out what had changed.

HTH

-bill

-- 
William Evans                 < william . evans @ computer . org >

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From: "William Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Same irq on multiple ethernet card
Date: 02 Apr 1999 08:24:34 -0500

>>>>> "modi" == modi mk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    modi> Hi there,
    modi> I am using 2 network cards on my linux server, one connected to the internet
    modi> and the other connected to the local LAN. One of the nic is Inter eepro 100
    modi> and the other one is a NE2000-pci clone from realtek. Interestingly both the
    modi> cards share the same irq i.e. irq9.

    modi> -Will not this be a bottleneck during heavy network activity?
    modi> -Can I or rather should I allot another irq to one of the cards and if so 
how?

Unless they've gotten the interrupt-sharing thing working (which I
haven't heard about), this is a *bad* thing ... you will at least
confuse the kernel, making your network connections tenuous at best.

Give one a different IRQ.  It's the only solution I'm aware of.

-bill

-- 
William Evans                 < william . evans @ computer . org >

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From: "William Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Odd line (to me) in messages file
Date: 02 Apr 1999 08:15:29 -0500

>>>>> "Brian" == Brian E Parker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

    Brian> Last week, I ran the 'setup' program and deactivated 'innd' thinking this
    Brian> would kill anything to do with news.  I don't want news running on this
    Brian> machine at all, as a news server or client.

Check /etc/cron.{hourly,daily} and look for inn- scripts ... if you
aren't running INN, there's not reason to have them there.  In fact,
if you aren't running it, why have it installed at all?

BTW: if you are keeping inn installed for future use, you probably
don't want to delete these ... just move them out of the way.  If your
cronjobs are using run-parts, you can rename them to dotfiles (./inn-*
to ./.inn-*) and run-parts won't run them.

HTH

-bill

-- 
William Evans                 < william . evans @ computer . org >

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From: Jon Slater <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:28:39 -0700

I've got IP Masquerading and 'diald' working between my baby network at
home.

I don't like 'diald'.  It works fine.  But I want something a little
more interactive.

I would like to be able to dial-up and hangup from a remote machine.

What I came up with was:

Set up two login accounts.  
One to start PPP.
One to hangup.
Then from a remote telnet session, start and stop the modem.

But, I would like something a little 'cleaner'.

Any ideas???

Thanks!

Jon
-- 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]     6150 Lookout Road
Phone: (303) 247-5037           Boulder, Colorado 
Fax:   (303) 247-5167           80301

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Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 11:57:43 +0200
From: Thomas Eicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RTL8139 (Accton Soho NIC 310/311)/ RedHat 5.1

I am trying to install my Accton Soho NIC 310/311 100Base-TX Ethernet Card based on
the RTL8139 Chip, for which there is supposed to be support in my Kernel (just
compiled it).

At startup, it says, too, that the Adapter has been recognized, but nothing will work
afterwards. Also, the base address of the adapter is set to some very high value,
which seems wrong.

If anyone knows how to do it or has done it him/herself, please send me a note!

Thanks, Tom

System: Intel P233MMX, RedHat 5.1
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_____________________________________________________________________

Thomas Eicher    mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Stephen Carville <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Dynamic update problems with Bind 8.2
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 02:04:38 -0800

Is anyone aware of a problem with nsupdate and named 8.2?  I have a perl
script I use to generate the input file for nsupdate and it works
flawlessly with named 8.1.2.  However, another user is having problems with
it working with 8.2.  

When using the script the PTR record is created but the A record is not. 
He can run nsupdate in batch mode or interactive mode and gets the same
error.  I can run the same commands with 8.1.2 and everything works fine. 
I'm stumped.

Suggestions?

-- 
Stephen Carville
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
====================================================
It's all right to have geniuses build systems for use by idiots, but 
the path from laboratory to marketplace needs to go through the 
proving ground of prudent engineering.
                                        Peter Coffee

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erik Hensema)
Subject: Re: no enough ip address !
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 15:42:21 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Kameneff Ivan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

>( network )
>  |                    |                    |
>+-------+         +-------------+
>| PC    |         | my PC under |
>| under |         |    linux    |
>| win98 |         +-------------+
>+-------+            ip adress : 195.221.233.198
>no ip adress
>
>Because all ip adresses (for an internet acces) have been adribuated
>(from 195.221.233.0
>to 195.221.233.255), the PC under win 98 can't have an internet acces.
>
>
>I would like to know if it was possible for th PC under win98 to have
>acces to
>internet throw my PC (under linux) ? Even if the Pc under win98 will be
>disconnect to
>intranet.
>
>One more problem is that i have only one network card.

I'm not sure if this works, so don't try it before anybody in this groups
confirms it works.
Give the Linux PC an IP alias, being 192.168.1.1, and assign 192.168.1.2 to
the win98 PC. The win98 PC can now communicate with your Linux PC using the
192.168.* range. This range is a private IP range, so it can safely be used.
The part above is what i'm not sure about. If this works, the rest will work
too.

Now, you can use standard IP-Masquerading. The win98 PC connects to the
Linux box, and the Linux box forwards the IP packets with it's own source IP
address. 

My only concern is the use of two destinct IP networks on one physical
network. However, I don't think it will be a problem.

Read the following mini-howto's: IP-Alias and IP-Masquerade

-- 
Erik Hensema ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nick Kew)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.setup,uk.comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help Please: Linux 2.2.5 and BT Speedway ISDN (honestly new question)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 11:33:41 +0000

> Internet customer) on how to do it but I just can't get the ISDN4LINUX utils
> to compile.

"doctor, I'm ill - please help"

> HELP PLEASE!!!!

Symptoms?

> PS.  Does anyone have a script by which to access BT Internet?  I have no
> idea how to assign my IP address dynamically (as I think that's how they
> work).

Add noipdefault and defaultroute to your PPP options, and take out
any explicit route commands.  Can't be explicit about BT 'cos I don't
use them (I did try them from Windoze when I got the Speedway card,
but the disc they supplied caused a BSOD).

-- 
Nick Kew

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andre van Dijk)
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: 2 Apr 1999 09:55:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 20:32:22 -0800, Dan M. Johnson (LinuxBox1)(bagzman) wrote:
>APRIL FOOLS =)
>
CUT!

please?

-- 
A. van Dijk                     Hmmm, I smell Bacon, Elvis is in the kitchen
mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]                   - Denis Leary
icq   : 4249631                   Linux: What you read is what you get.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RedHat Lousy Support
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 15:56:11 GMT

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I'm not aware of ANY computer business where you can get ANY support of any
> kind for the money Red Hat charges for their Official CDs. Your complaint
> is therefore specious at best.

One problem is the money, knowlegeable people cost a lot of money (plus a lot
more to have them do a support-hotline job...), and for the price of a RedHat
or SuSE or Caldera or whatever CD you need lots of people before you can pay
one person. Ok, in this case he wanted to pay money(?) and the reply could
have been more helpful with less words... I think the _major_ problem today
for _paid_ Linux support is the enormous growth rate of the Linux market.
There just aren't enough people to hire to have enough staff for the support
hotline, so even if you want to pay you can't very often get what you want.


> If you need help, I would *strongly* suggest subscribing to one or more
> of the *many* Linux lists.

Right now this is the best option, see above.


--
Michael Hasenstein
http://www.csn.tu-chemnitz.de/~mha/
Private Pilot (ASEL) since 1998

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From: Mark Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: modem probs
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 09:51:23 -0700
Reply-To: markj*no*spam*@gilanet.com

Its not clear what you've tried. Maybe my experience will help...

I was reading HOWTOs, etc, and tried to configure minicom. It appeared to me that
minicom wanted a path to kermit; I discovered that kermit wasn't installed by
RH5.1 because of its more restrictive license. So, I downloaded C-Kermit 7.0 from
the Columbia U website.

I met success in the course of installing kermit, and getting it working per the
installation instructions that come with it.

Qozmoe wrote:

> >If your modem doesn't have a jumpers (or you have NOT jumpered the modem for
> >comm1-4), then the modem is the problem.  All modems that are labeled
> >"win-modem"
> >(and most PnP modems) can NOT be used with Linux no matter what motherbd or
> >Linux
> >version you might try.  Keith
> >
> >Qozmoe wrote:
> >
> >> ok, i'm sure that this is a really basic problem, but nevertheless i can't
> >> figure out an answer to it.  i just installed redhat5.0 on an i586 with a
> >Supra
> >> 336i Sp ASVD modem, and for some reason i can't dial out.  i really don't
> >know
> >> where to start fixing this problem.  i've installed this same CD
> >distribution
> >> on another i586 before and had no problems with the modem configuration.
> >> anybody got any advice or any leads??
> >> thanx,
> >> qozmo
> >
> >
>
> this is definitely not a winmodem, and it is not pnp either.  i'm fairly sure
> that i have the link pointing to the right com port since the modem is not pnp
> and i have it pointing to the same com port as win95 uses.
> i'm not necessarily looking for someone to tell me what the problem is with my
> modem, though that would be nice.  i just need to find out some resources.
> i've looked through all of the HOWTOs that seem related and there is nothing
> there for me.  help please.
> qozmo


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From: Ronan Heffernan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 12:41:49 -0500

Seach for "connectd" on Freshmeat or some other software index site.  It is
a server that brings a PPP connection up and down in response to remote
commands from  "WConnect" (Win32) or "connect" (linux command-line) or
XConnect (X11).  I use this to coordinate between my 4 computers.  One
great feature is that you do not explicitly control the status of the PPP
connection.  You express/release your interest in the connection.  As soon
as the number of interested users hits zero, connectd closes the
connection.  You do not have to shout over your cubicle wall, "Anybody need
the link up?"

> I've got IP Masquerading and 'diald' working between my baby network at
> home.
>
> I don't like 'diald'.  It works fine.  But I want something a little
> more interactive.
>
> I would like to be able to dial-up and hangup from a remote machine.
>
> What I came up with was:
>
> Set up two login accounts.
> One to start PPP.
> One to hangup.
> Then from a remote telnet session, start and stop the modem.
>
> But, I would like something a little 'cleaner'.
>





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From: "Thomas Horan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: Don't wanna run 'diald', so what else???
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 18:25:49 +0100

You want diald with dialmon - http://www.quaking.demon.co.uk

you can do anything with it.



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: need help promoting linux
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:15:21 GMT

Howdy, first of all, let me appologize for the large list of newsgroups i
posted this to. I need to get this out to as many people as i can.

I work for American Show Management, we do Trade shows, technology trade
shows.  I am looking for a way to have a linux educational conference at the
Rochester ITEC that is coming up June 22-23rd.  I want to have a consortium
of accomplished linux users, hardware people and programmers for a mini
conference-in-conference. I need some help figuring out who would be
interested in this. Primarily, i need heavy hitters that can contribute.
Who is backing linux right now, hardware-wise? major  companies, compaq,
dell, ibm.  I primarily need to know who i could contact to offer
sponsorships to this event, to defray the costs of the conference. i would
appreciate any responses to [EMAIL PROTECTED] as i can't check the ng's
very often. thank you in advance for any input.


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.setup,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x,comp.os.linux.development.apps
Subject: Re: Web-Browser on Sparc-Linux
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 1999 17:37:08 +0200
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi Morely

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999, Morely Dotes wrote:

[..]
> Actually, Ralf, Netscape did go open-source about 9 months or a year ago, 
> though I no longer know where to look for the sources.

Yes an No. There is a open source Version called mozilla. But it hasn't
the full functionality and it needs motif to compile. And I don't have
motif.

> 
> Barring that, however, Lynx will certainly let you navigate, even if you do 
> have to download the graphics manually.

I know lynx, but the problems is that I definitly need a graphical
browser. That was because I was asking for a graphical Browser.


Bye

Ralf
===============================================================
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Im Kirchtal 88                          fax:   +49-2241-405953
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From: David Delikat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 1999 09:16:24 -0600

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Agreed, this is quite funny. Unfortunately my paranoia about MS allows me
> to think it is possible!
> 
> Dan
> 

yes, it is curious.  what would happen if he tried it?

I would guess the first responce would be (assuming source code
was not supplied) a variety of lawsuits.

but what if he did?

what do you think?

-dav

-- 
<((((><
Consultant: Internet, Database, Business Systems
Unix/Linux, Windows95/NT
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] / http://obj.webjump.com/

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Not getting a banner back doing telnet
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 1999 17:52:51 GMT

Hi,
I am writing a telnet client and I am not getting the login banner from the
server.
I am connected to to the port 23 OK. Send options OK. but in response get only
options back.
Am I missing something?
Thanks,
please CC me [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (AMAE)
Subject: A basic question about installation
Date: 1 Apr 1999 18:03:04 GMT

Hi,
This is probably not a smart question I am posting here, but I really
would greatly appreciate any help.

I have a linux cobalt microserver with two ethernet cards, router, hub ,
monitor , and an Access point. I also have ISDN access to the internet.

I just want to know how to configure a network such that the following is
true:

1)I need to be able to telnet to the the cobalt linux box remotely.
2)I want one eth card to talk to the Access point and the other ethernet
card to talk to the wired network.

How can I know the subnet IP?  If I ping one of the eth cards and it does
not respond does that mean it is not configured correctly?

I never configured networks before so I apologize if the stupidity of this
question might irritate any one.

Please explain as if you were talking to starter.
Thanks

Regards
Ayman Elsaedi 

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From: "Snoopy :-))" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
alt.linux,alt.linux.sux,alt.os.linux,alt.os.linux.caldera,comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.protocols.smb
Subject: Re: MS-LINUX
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 1999 10:59:21 -0500

You forgot to mention the main event !!!
Bill Gates will personally  perform by "Guilotine" the execution of the
Penquin :-)) :-))
Snoopy :-))

TURBO1010 wrote in message <7e1bgc$5hh$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>hought you might like an early peek at this. It'll be going out over
>the wire shortly.
>
>
>
>Microsoft Announces MS-Linux
>
>
>The flexible "grassroots" operating system, now with the quality and
>enterprise-level service and support customers expect from Microsoft
>
>
>REDMOND, Wash., April 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Microsoft Corp. today announced
>the forthcoming release of MS-Linux(R), a new version of the well-known
>Linux(R) operating system designed for the enterprise.
>
>
>"Prior to the development of MS-Linux, enterprise customers wouldn't
>dream of deploying mission-critical applications on an unsupported
>operating
>system," said Jim Allchin, senior vice president of Microsoft's personal
>and
>business systems group. "All that has now changed."
>
>
>Maximum compatibility and performance
>
>
>While other versions of Linux offer a variety of immature and largely
>incompatible windowing environments, MS-Linux includes an implementation
>of
>the familiar Microsoft(R) Windows(R) desktop, minimizing corporate
>training
>costs and allowing the hundreds of millions of Windows users worldwide
>to be
>productive right away.
>
>
>MS-Linux provides a complete implementation of the Win32(R) API,
>enabling many of the thousands of applications written for the Microsoft
>Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows NT(R), and Windows 2000 operating
>systems to
>run unchanged on MS-Linux. Microsoft will offer support for future
>releases
>of the Microsoft Office suite of productivity applications and the
>BackOffice family of server products running on MS-Linux. In addition,
>many
>existing MS-DOS(R) and SCO Unix programs will run on MS-Linux without
>modification. Benchmark tests performed by independent laboratories have
>shown that MS-Linux is the world's fastest Windows file server.
>
>
>A groundswell of support from industry
>
>
>A number of leading development tool vendors will announce support for
>MS-Linux, including Bristol Technology Inc., Compuware Corp., Cygnus
>Solutions, Fujitsu Microelectronics Inc., Intel Corp., Metrowerks Inc.,
>Rational Software Corp., Sybase Inc., and Tower Technology.
>
>
>"The new Linux distribution from Microsoft gives the operating system
>the credibility it needs to gain a foothold in organizations where it
>has
>never gone before," said Jon Hall, Executive Director of Linux
>International, a non-profit Linux advocacy organization. Microsoft will
>become a corporate member of Linux International, and will make a
>substantial donation of funds and equipment to the organization. "Linux
>International looks forward to working with Microsoft for the benefit of
>current and future Linux users," added Hall.
>
>
>According to VA Research President and CEO Larry Augustin, "VA Research
>is delighted that Microsoft is entering the fast-growing market for
>computers powered by Linux." VA Research has announced plans to bundle
>MS-Linux and selected Microsoft Office and BackOffice products with its
>powerful server, workstation, and laptop computers. VA Research has also
>agreed to make Microsoft its exclusive supplier of Linux-based operating
>systems going forward. "Having the Office and BackOffice suites running
>on
>computers from VA Research will give us a huge advantage in the
>marketplace," said Augustin.
>
>
>Microsoft has engaged well-known author and programmer Eric S. Raymond
>to advise the company on certain intellectual property issues related to
>Linux. Raymond's paper "The Cathedral of the Bizarre" was a key factor
>in
>Microsoft's decision to develop a Linux product. "While Microsoft will
>not
>immediately release the source code for its version of Linux, the
>company
>has promised to do so eventually," said Raymond. "That's good enough for
>me."
>
>
>"The Linux community and Microsoft are a great fit," says Linus
>Torvalds, creator of Linux. "After all, we both have the same goal,
>which is
>total world domination."
>
>
>Separately, Microsoft has announced the opening of a new recruiting
>center in Research Triangle Park, North Carolina. "Microsoft is always
>looking for talented individuals to join our team," said Mike Murray,
>Microsoft's vice president of human resources and administration. "We
>often
>recruit in communities that are expected to have significant numbers of
>folks looking for work in the near future."
>
>
>Pricing and availability
>
>
>Microsoft expects to release English and international versions of
>MS-Linux Version 3.1 for Intel- and RISC-based computers on or before
>April
>1, 2000. Pricing has not been announced.
>
>
>About Microsoft
>Founded in 1975, Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) is the worldwide leader in
>software for personal computers. The company offers a wide range of
>products
>and services, each designed with the mission of making it easier and
>more
>enjoyable to take advantage of people using personal computers every
>day.
>
>
>Microsoft, Windows, Windows NT, Win32, BackOffice, MS-Linux, and Linux
>are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Microsoft Corp. in the
>United States and/or other countries. Other product and company names
>herein
>may be trademarks of their respective owners.
>  Happy Surfing,
>
>
>
>
>



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