Linux-Networking Digest #748, Volume #10          Mon, 5 Apr 99 02:13:42 EDT

Contents:
  ipfwadm: difference between 'reject' and 'deny' commands? (Tim Wood)
  Re: named forwarding-only ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  innd.pid not found, cannot figure it out (Doug Nordwall)
  Re: Howto add a new network card? ("Klas Eliasson")
  Re: Netscape bus error when I click on "email" tag (Eugene V. Morozov)
  Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment.... ("Stuart Fox")
  Re: Samba 2.0.3 Installation ("Lance Togar")
  Re: ipfwadm: difference between 'reject' and 'deny' commands? (Todd Knarr)
  Re: Cable Modem Woes (Jason Lynch)
  Re: ipfwadm: difference between 'reject' and 'deny' commands? ("Chris Cocozzo")
  Re: What is the best Linux to install? ("[EMAIL PROTECTED]")
  Linux in NT Domain ("Greg Saunders")
  Re: New ISP in deep and dire with Redhat 5.2 -- NEED HELP (Dang H. Nguyen)
  Cable Modem Woes (JASON LYNCH)

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From: Tim Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ipfwadm: difference between 'reject' and 'deny' commands?
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 03:48:35 +0000

I've looked at the ipfwadm man page, the Firewall howto and the NET-3
howto and none of them define these two commands or explain how they are
different.  Anyone know the answer?

-- 
Thank you,
-Tim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: named forwarding-only
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 21:34:27 -0400



William Grinolds wrote:
> 
> I'm currently running a cacheing nameserver (named) on my Slackware Linux
> 3.5 box (kernel upgraded to 2.0.36).  The version of BIND I'm running is
> 8.1.2.  I was looking a web page
> (http://personal1.iddeo.es/ret005lc/diald-win-e.html#runnamed) that
> describes how you can force named to restart (the desired effect is to clean
> the cache) whenever diald closes the ppp connection. 

Why would you want to flush the cache every time dial hangs up ????
the whole thing with a cache i to keep lookup local to the cache and
not have the phone line up for the same inquires over and over ????

That makes no sense at all !!!!!!!  If you want to forward all lookups
just use you isp's name server and don't even run naamed.

 
-- 

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From: Doug Nordwall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: innd.pid not found, cannot figure it out
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 17:22:54 -0700


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I have apparently lost my innd.pid file and it does not want to create a
new one. My logs say something else is running on the enws port, but I
do a scan of it, and nothing is there..Any thoughts?

--
Doug Nordwall                   "Who's the bigger fool?
New Mexico Highlands            The fool or the fool who follows him?"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                     -Ben Kenobi



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I have apparently lost my innd.pid file and it does not want to create
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<pre>--&nbsp;
Doug 
Nordwall&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
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From: "Klas Eliasson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Howto add a new network card?
Date: 4 Apr 99 11:13:37 GMT

>> Klas Eliasson wrote
 >>[in <01be7ce7$769ad220$0100a8c0@ntserver>]: 

>> I have a linux (redhat52) box. And i want to connect it to my
>> network.  I just bought a networkcard (ISA NE2000).
>>
>> How do I istall it in linux?
> >
>> Do I have to reinstall RedHat?
>> 
>> I must somehow add the card - but where?

> read Ethernet-HOWTO. 

> You don't need to reinstall REDHAT, let it find the card at the
> boot time, or give the card's irq and base as a parameter at lilo
> promt (or in conf.modules). RedHat has no problems with ne2000.
 
WHAT ARE THE PARAMETERS GOING TO LOOK LIKE IN LILO??
//klas , sweden

> -- 
> tsca 
> Tomasz Sienicki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ru (Eugene V. Morozov)
Subject: Re: Netscape bus error when I click on "email" tag
Date: 04 Apr 1999 10:49:12 +0400

Lee McKusick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> When I run the Netscape 4.5 browser, Netscape crashes when I click on 
> one of those "email address tags".
> 
> I think I have a setup problem because I am using a Netscape 4.5 version
> I directly downloaded from netscape.
> 
> I have set the MOZILLA_HOME variable, I am running RedHat 5.2, and I
> even had this problem when I was running RedHat 4.2 and the Netscape 4.0
> of a few years ago.
> 
> I'd like to fix this, or can you tell me, does your Netscape from the
> RedHat distribution disk click on the "email address" tag OK?
I've had this problem, saved bookmarks, removed ~/.netscape and now
Netscape doesn't crash on email address tags.
Eugene

-- 
Eugene V. Morozov 
E-mail:   <john_morozov @ LinuxStart com> "Linux poses a real challenge
          <john @ lucifer dorms spbu ru>   for those with a taste for 
          <john_morozov @ yahoo com>       late-night hacking (and/or 
Homepage: http://lucifer.dorms.spbu.ru     conversations with God)." 
                                           (By Matt Welsh)

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From: "Stuart Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: Using Linux instead of NT Server in home environment....
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 14:25:29 +1200


>
More often the patches get put
>into the next release and we have to pay for them!


Crap - heard of a service pack????
>
>> >>> 3. A properly configured NT box will not Blue Screen, and will be as
>> >stable
>> >>> as a well configured Linux box.
>
>Yes - as long as you don't let a user on it - because one lowly user can
>screw up the system by clicking on "upgrade" on one lowly program.
>

Again crap
1. You don't let users log in to a server - they don't need to and if you
let them, you are probably being a little stupid as an admin
2. If a user does (which you can of course restrict on NT) an ordinary user
won't have rights to make modifications that will bring the server down e.g.
apply a service pack, upgrade an application
3. Most users wouldn't be able to find out how to upgrade an NT box - they'd
still be looking for the Word icon.

>Some asshole = user
Or a stupid admin - and there are plenty (in both MS and Linux camps).  My
motto: Trust No One

>
>If you let them near the computer, they can/will do things simply
>because they can, and there is nothing you can do about it except do
>backups. Even if the system has no floppy there is still a strong
>possiblilty that the user can/will put something into their area that
>the system will load and subvert your careful setups.
>

So why would you let your users near a server.

>Windows is for techies - the problem is that it doesn't have any way of
>distinguishing a casual user from the chosen administrator. That's what
>things like 'root' on a Unix/Linux system is for. The user should
>_NEVER_ have access to root - or the things it can do - except through
>carefully crafted SETUID type programs, and should never need it. The
>problem with the Windows programming paradigm is that it has no true
>concept of such priviledge.


You obviously have no idea of NT - there is a user called "administrator" -
you may have heard of it.  Also, a group called administrators.  They have a
set of rights that users don't have...
You may be confused with Windows 95 which is not worth defending

Stu



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From: "Lance Togar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Samba 2.0.3 Installation
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 00:38:49 -0400

Greg Kettmann wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>I'm running Red Hat 5.1.  It's a production machine and I can't really
>upgrade until I have another machine handy.  At any rate, I've been
>trying to get Samba running.  It works and I see the server from
>WinBlows 95 "Network Neighborhood".  When I try to connect I get a
>request for a password at the $IPC connection.  I can't get past this.
>I've done all the smbpassword, etc.


Save this to a file with a reg extention and run it:
REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\VxD\VNETSUP]
"EnablePlainTextPassword"=dword:00000001

>As a result it appears the next best step is to upgrade to Samba 2.0.3.
>I did, with no problems (sort of).  I did the ./configure, make and make
>install.  Now I'm stuck.  The machine still wants to run the old Samba.
>Somewhere I found a place to 'uninstall' and I did.  I'm having trouble
>having Samba start.  I put the file 'smb' to run in /etc/rc.d/init.d.
>It was the old one and wouldn't work.  I also put the link in rc3.d so
>it runs.  I modified the 'smb' file heavily to point to my new Samba in:
>/usr/local/samba/bin.  I changed status to point to and run
>'smbstatus'.  Here are my problems:

>
>1)  Clearly this isn't set up right.  It appears to run (how can I tell)
>but 'smb status' fails.  How can I tell if it's running.  ( think it
>is,  see #3)


ps ax. Look for smb and nmb in the process list. They may be started by
inetd so take a look in /etc/inetd.conf too.

>2)  'smbstatus' was looking for the smb.conf file in something like
>/usr/local/samba/etc instead of the expected /etc.  How can I fix this,
>or should I?


Sounds like you got 2.0.3 from the Samba site or a mirror. If so, you'll
want to edit the configuration files to match the RedHat installation file
locations.

>3)  I suspect Samba is running because I can see the Linux server from
>the Winblows machine.  I get the same $IPC password problem.  Do I need
>to recreate the smbpasswd file (or whatever it's name is)?  It was
>created under the old (shipped with RH5.1) Samba?
>
>Thanks for any help.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: Todd Knarr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipfwadm: difference between 'reject' and 'deny' commands?
Date: 5 Apr 1999 04:02:10 GMT

Tim Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've looked at the ipfwadm man page, the Firewall howto and the NET-3
> howto and none of them define these two commands or explain how they are
> different.  Anyone know the answer?

"reject" drops the packet and sends back the appropriate ICMP error to
the originator. "deny" drops the packet without generating any errors,
causing your router to become a black hole as far as the originator is
concerned.

Real-world example: blocking traffic on the telnet port. If you use "reject"
and try to telnet in, your telnet client will respond with "Host unreachable"
or some such very quickly. If you use "deny", your client will sit there
silently until it's timeouts are exceeded ( which can be quite a while ).

-- 
All I want out of the Universe is 10 minutes with the source code and
a quick recompile.
                                -- unknown

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From: Jason Lynch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Re: Cable Modem Woes
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 04:57:46 GMT

No, unfortunatly not...

Robert Gormley wrote:
> 
> JASON LYNCH wrote:
> 
> > I've got RH 5.1 going and my ethernet card configured properly and I'm
> > triyng to set up a cable modem. I've got Comcast@Home service and during
> > the install of RH it asked if I wanted a static IP address which I
> > chose. assuming my IP that Comcast @Home assigned me is 24.4.211.13 this
> > is what I entered on the first part of the install
> >
> > Static IP address: 24.4.211.13
> > Netmask:           255.255.255.0
> > Default Gateway:   24.4.211.1
> > Primary Nameserver 24.2.68.33
> >
> > the Netmask and the Default Gateway I got when I ran winipcfg and the
> > Static IP and Primary Nameserver came on in invoice @home gave me.
> >
> > Now the next part is where I falter I bit. It asks for the domain name
> > and the host name both of which I'm not sure on. on the dos prompt in
> > Win98  I typed "tracert 24.4.211.13" i got back:
> >
> > Tracing route to cc240637-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.4.211.13]
> >
> > over a maximum of 30 hops:
> >
> >   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  cc240637-a.strhg1.mi.home.com
> > [24.4.211.13]
> >
> > Trace complete.
> >
> > Now for my domain name I put in: strhg1.mi.home.com
> > and for my host name I put in:   cc240637-a.strhg1.mi.home.com
> > I also added my secondary nameserver: 24.2.68.34
> > I'm not sure if I did the first two fields right.
> 
> Almost, but not quite... your host name should be "cc240637" - check the
> files in /etc/sysconfig/network and network-scripts too for any mention...
> 
> > Well after it boots up I pinged myself at 24.2.211.13 and it responded
> > but it never ended. It went on and on and on. If I hadn't of killed it,
> > I'm not sure if it would have stopped. I next tried to ping my default
> > gateway but it failed completly. Any help, hints, suggestions would be
> > helpful and greatly appreciated.
> >
> 
> Ping under unix is different to windows, it continues until you Ctrl C it,
> unlike Windows...
> Could you surf the net even though you couldn't ping the default GW?
> 
> --
> Robert Gormley
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.obsidian.darker.net

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From: "Chris Cocozzo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ipfwadm: difference between 'reject' and 'deny' commands?
Date: 5 Apr 1999 04:05:24 GMT

I believe that 'deny' sends a message back saying that the host doesn't
accept these connections and 'reject' doesn't send anything back so the
sender doesn't know if there was a connection or not..I may have these
reversed but that is the gist of it...

C

Tim Wood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in article
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> I've looked at the ipfwadm man page, the Firewall howto and the NET-3
> howto and none of them define these two commands or explain how they are
> different.  Anyone know the answer?
> 
> -- 
> Thank you,
> -Tim
> 

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From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.setup
Subject: Re: What is the best Linux to install?
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 1999 22:17:26 -0500

        TurboLinux is by far the easiest to install and configure.  No Doubt
About it.

Diane Adams wrote:
> 
> Roberto Alsina wrote:
> 
> > In article <Lw4N2.65$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Fri, 2 Apr 1999 05:54:49 -0700, Paul Bary wrote:
>


-- 
Michael H. Collins              < Linux: The Official OS >
http://www.linuxlink.com        < For The New Millennium >

Powered by TurboLinux 2.2.3         Fear the Penguin

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From: "Greg Saunders" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Linux in NT Domain
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 1999 23:38:14 -0400

Hey everyone...

I'm in the process of setting up a Linux box on my existing NT Domain based
network. The advantages of gaining some much needed network space at a
reasonable price and the potential to add some "native" Internet
connectivity were too much to pass up even for an NT diehard like myself.
I've setup RedHat 5.2 (surprisingly easy) with Samba on a system, and have
things barely functional (share level acces via a guest account). My network
is all IP, with 95/98 clients and NT Server as the PDC.

Does anyone who has travelled this road before have any tips they'd like to
share? I'd be especially interested in the following:

1. Can Linux validate users (even just for Samba) through the NT box?

2. Should I run my WINS server on NT or Linux (using RAS on NT for limited
dialup)?

3. Does this encrypted password thing really work in Samba?

4. Is there anything which in retrospect I'm likely to feel really stupid
about doing?

Thanks for the help.







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dang H. Nguyen)
Subject: Re: New ISP in deep and dire with Redhat 5.2 -- NEED HELP
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 01:59:37 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

What is your exact problem. Telling us you have machines that can't
connect to UUnet is no use. What 3Com NICs do you have? 3Com makes a
gazilllion NIC so you have to know the model number. Some newer 3Com
server NICs are not supported by Linux too.
Do you know how to recompile the kernel? Is networking compile into
the kernel? Are you running the NIC drivers as modules or compiled
them directly into the kernel?

Post detail info here and someone might be able to help.
Trying installing a cheap copy of Windows98 on the boxes to see if all
the hardware are working, i.e., you can get online. That way it will
eliminate hardware failures as possilble causes. 

Dang.

On Sun, 4 Apr 1999 20:32:23 -0500, "Gerald Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>We have a T-1 connection to the internet, a GTX router, and a
>Livingston/Lucent Portmaster 3 with 48 internal modems. We are waiting for
>two PRI's, but the T-1 is up. The router and the Portmaster are configured
>and can ping UUNET's authentication servers and each other. We have two
>Redhat 5.2 machines set up with 3com cards which cannot see or be seen. We
>are newbies in awful deep, but fighting the need to go back to NT, which is
>what we know. Advise was to run Linux and we are trying to do that--we want
>to do that very much.  We have configured and reconfigured until we are wore
>out. Probably no big deal for the Linux pros out there.  We thought we would
>be able to find plenty of help, but the help is too often found with to many
>"in-betweens" left out. We need to get this system up and running. If anyone
>can help we would greatly appreciate the help. We have looked into hiring
>UUNET consultants, but $2000.00 a day is awful steep.


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From: JASON LYNCH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.help
Subject: Cable Modem Woes
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:59:28 GMT

I've got RH 5.1 going and my ethernet card configured properly and I'm
triyng to set up a cable modem. I've got Comcast@Home service and during
the install of RH it asked if I wanted a static IP address which I
chose. assuming my IP that Comcast @Home assigned me is 24.4.211.13 this
is what I entered on the first part of the install

Static IP address: 24.4.211.13
Netmask:           255.255.255.0
Default Gateway:   24.4.211.1
Primary Nameserver 24.2.68.33       

the Netmask and the Default Gateway I got when I ran winipcfg and the
Static IP and Primary Nameserver came on in invoice @home gave me.

Now the next part is where I falter I bit. It asks for the domain name
and the host name both of which I'm not sure on. on the dos prompt in
Win98  I typed "tracert 24.4.211.13" i got back:

Tracing route to cc240637-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.4.211.13]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



  1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  cc240637-a.strhg1.mi.home.com
[24.4.211.13] 



Trace complete.

Now for my domain name I put in: strhg1.mi.home.com
and for my host name I put in:   cc240637-a.strhg1.mi.home.com
I also added my secondary nameserver: 24.2.68.34
I'm not sure if I did the first two fields right.

Well after it boots up I pinged myself at 24.2.211.13 and it responded
but it never ended. It went on and on and on. If I hadn't of killed it,
I'm not sure if it would have stopped. I next tried to ping my default
gateway but it failed completly. Any help, hints, suggestions would be
helpful and greatly appreciated.

thanks for reading 

Jason Lynch

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