According to Ray Olszewski: While burning my CPU.
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> At 10:58 PM 5/19/99 +0000, Richard Adams wrote [in part]:
> >I presume i am not the only one that is seeing long delays in mail
> >acceptance and delivery at vger.
> ....
> >It seems the mail stayed in a queue for 2+ days at vger, or at least
> >according to the headers above.
> >
> >Am i the only one or are there more folks seeing this.?
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> I assume this is a rhetorical question -- you know how to read e-mail
> headers as well as I do, and the headers you sent make it obvious that, at
> least recently, mail on vger is being queued for an extraordinarily long
Of course i know how to read headers thats why i attached then to the
origanal mail, what you forget is that there *is* a difference between
Europe and Stateside, vger uses expanders for sending mail, it has been
known that subscribers to a list in Europe were getting delays of up to a
day when subscribers in the USA were receiving mail *without* delay(s).
> time. Interestingly, I'm not seeing similarly long queue times on the
> linux-ppp list (more like 4 hours than the days linux-newbie is experiencing).
The linux-hams mailing list also has long delays at presant, so i presume
there are more, however the linux-kernel list is working normally i might
add.
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> The real question is: what can be done about it? I fear the answer is
> "nothing." linux-newbie is, to put it mildly, not very actively managed by
> its owner; witness the extraordinary persistance of the Richard Harrison
> bounce problems. Mail I sent on that problem to owner-linux-newbie (and even
> to [EMAIL PROTECTED], an alias that by SMTP standards is supposed
> to be read by a real live person) goes unanswered, and the problem goes unfixed.
It WILL get fixed, its just that we as users will have to wait untill
someone with a little syaso at vger starts moaning.
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> We might make a fuss about this, but I fear that doing so will be
> counterproductive. I infer from the neglect that linux-newbie survives at
> vger on sufference, not as a high-priority item. Too much complaining might
> result in the list's terminaton instead of any improvement, and that would
> be a bad loss ... even poorly administered, this list is a real value to the
> Linux community.
That i doubt.
On another list i am on, the list maintainer has reapedaly said that even
his mails to the systems-operator at vger go unanswered most of the time.
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> So I guess we need simply to put up with these delays ... perhaps
> accommodating to them, as I do, by replying directlt to the actual poster as
> well as to the list ... that way, at least the individual who asked a
> question gets a quicker answer, even if the rest of us have to wait ... and
> wait ... and wait ....
Its a reoccuring problem at vger, it *has* happend before and *will* happen
again, at least according to the law of avererges.
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Regards Richard.
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