Richard Adams wrote:
>
> On Sat, 18 Dec 1999, Fernando Korstanje wrote about, Newbies..newbies:
> > Thanks to Lawson and Richard.
> > I didn't try to fix the problems still. I will need some time, and maybe
> > I'll find more problems.
> >
> >
> > I am afraid of what lawson says about not setting the system to
> > bootup in x.
> >
> > It seems that it is a well known problem, that was already discussed
> > on the list ... ...but how can a newbie know !!!!!
> >
> > I am reading every message ....even those that I don't
> > understand..... Should I read the messages sent before I joined the
> > list????
>
> You can't be expected to remember everything that you read in a mail book or
> manual page or even a HOWTO, however what i meant the otherday is this, for
> example a message is sent to the list about a problem, its a perfectly
> valid question and it gets a reasonable answer, now 2 days later someone
> else askes the same question, even tho' they have been on the list for
> weeks, they still ask. Noone not even i, expect you or anyone else to read
> messages that are mounths old before you ask a question, on the contrary,
> ALL questions relavant to Linux are welcome, as to us being able to answer
> them is another matter.
>
> What we want (i say we, i expect Lawson, Ray, Greg, Ken and others will
> agree) is that using the archives, now that we know where to find them, is
> a good starting point, of course a newcommer wont know that, but then a
> newcommer wont get moaned at under normal curcumstancies.
>
> > I don't worry about myself.
> > I am interested in learning Linux..so installing it again and again is a
> > good training. But all the manuals, the installation guide and the
> > O'reilly book I bought should warn the newbie user about this !!!!
> >
> > And That is the problem !!!
> >
> > On the contrary, they invite you to set the system in a way that could
> > make many people scare about thinking in migrating to linux. Am I
> > right ??
>
> What i think can be misunderstanding is, someone installs linux, reboots
> and gets a normal Linux console prompt, he then thinks in ignorance, if i
> may use that word, that he has a system without a GUI, he has no knowlage
> on HOWTO start X at this point, he then thinks, "What a system" no GUI, i
> dont want it, and pomptly returns to his M$pay_Thro'_the_nose system.
>
> This and other problems are hard to solve, however maybe a few mails to
> distributors like Redhat may make a difference.
Parden me for throwing my two cents worth in here, but, when I first
got LINUX I spent over 2 weeks trying to get it to set up. I had to go
out and find a person that knew how to do LINUX and paid him to set up
my X-windows. Through it all I never said, this is a crappy system and
I am going back to M$. I was one that wanted out of the Make Bill rich
camp and was not going to stop till I got a working system. I have
bought at least 5 disros of LINUX, RedHat5.2, 6.1, SuSE 6.1, Caldera 1.3
(two times) and Caldera 2.2 I also gave a donation to get a copy of
Debian 2.2 All three of the ones RedHat6.1, SuSE 6.1 and Caldera 2.3 had
Graphic setups in them. If the person is going to throw up his hands
and quit at the first little set back, he needs to stay with M$
Windows. I feel LINUX is for thoughs that are willing to accept the
challenge to use a great system that will require them to think about
what the computer is doing, not just set and be spoon feed. This is the
meat of computing, not the milk. It is for people ready to take control
of their computer, not have the computer, control them. That said,
Good night Hal, we give you control of the ship to sleep. *G*
