Hi,

I already tried one of these, but I was asking for a setup
bin/tar.gz/rpm (we have our own provisionning worflows, and we are not
big fans of all-in-one appliances for security reasons).


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ecoPour la planète, n'imprimez ce mail que si c'est nécessaire.
On 04/23/2018 01:54 PM, R S wrote:
> https://marketing.dell.com/en/ome-tech-release asks for PII in order
> to download. Here's a direct link to circumvent this:
> http://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/19/Drivers/DriversDetails?driverId=H2RRX
>
> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 2:34 AM, Florian Haller-Casagrande
> <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>
>     Thanks for sharing this link.
>
>     Is there any way to download the new OME as a setup package,
>     instead of a complete virtual appliance ?
>
>
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>     ecoPour la planète, n'imprimez ce mail que si c'est nécessaire.
>     On 04/21/2018 12:00 AM, [email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
>>     The reason we use the phrase "Tech Release" is that it currently does 
>> not have feature parity with OMEssentials.  Later this year we will reach a 
>> 'cutover' point where OMEnterprise has caught up, and all new development 
>> will be there.  Bug fixes for OMEssentials will continue as necessary. 
>>
>>     And yes, we are all VERY excited for the move to HTML5! 
>>
>>     Here is a great place to get started - 
>> http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/systems-management/w/wiki/12404.openmanage-enterprise
>>     
>> <http://en.community.dell.com/techcenter/systems-management/w/wiki/12404.openmanage-enterprise>
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     From: linux-poweredge-bounces-Lists On Behalf Of Tim Mooney
>>     Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 3:41 PM
>>     To: linux-poweredge-Lists
>>     Subject: Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] PE Update Strategy & Questions
>>
>>     In regard to: Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] PE Update Strategy & Questions,...:
>>
>>>     OpenManage Enterprise  the successor to OpeManage Essentials (both OME 
>>>     for simplicity) is available now. It is supplied as a CentOS based 
>>>     virtual appliance which can run on VMware, Hyper-V or KVM - so yes OME 
>>>     is available for Linux.
>>>
>>>     If you want more information, let me know and I will provide when I am 
>>> online.
>>     I certainly would be interested in more information on OM Enterprise.
>>
>>     Everything I've been able to find on dell.com <http://dell.com> still 
>> says "Tech Release", which although listed as "fully supported", makes it 
>> sound fairly beta-ish.
>>
>>     Just seeing that it uses HTML5 (rather than Silverlight (!)) makes me 
>> more interested in the product than I ever was in Essentials.
>>
>>     Thanks,
>>
>>     Tim
>>
>>>     -------- Original message --------
>>>     From: Cameron Smith <[email protected]> 
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Date: 20/04/2018 19:22 (GMT+00:00)
>>>     To: R S <[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Cc: linux-poweredge-Lists <[email protected]>
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     Subject: Re: [Linux-PowerEdge] PE Update Strategy & Questions
>>>
>>>     You are welcome!
>>>
>>>     Sadly OME is not Linux ready yet. I have heard rumors that it might be 
>>> in the works but I wouldn't hold my breath.
>>>
>>>     If using the .EXEs in the DRAC GUI here are some tips.
>>>
>>>     Before you start, go to the Lifecycle Controller job queue which is the 
>>> Job Queue link on the main DRAC page and see if there is anything already 
>>> in there. If there are any jobs in there that are failed or pending (that 
>>> you don't want) delete them.
>>>
>>>     Reboot the DRAC from the main drac page with the Reset link (This does 
>>>     not affect the OS)
>>>
>>>     Once DRAC is back up which is usually within 90 seconds then do your 
>>> firmware uploads. You can set these to immediately reboot the server and 
>>> run or to be queued to run when the server is rebooted by you at a later 
>>> time manually.
>>>
>>>     Then go to the Job Queue and monitor their status.
>>>
>>>     Cameron
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 11:11 AM, R S <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     Thanks for sharing this. Makes me want to spent time and try out OME.
>>>     I used the 64bit EXEs in iDRAC just recently for the first time 
>>> wondering how the iDRAC can handle EXEs?!?! :) It worked though.
>>>     Is OME available for GNU/Linux?
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Cameron Smith 
>>> <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     For localizing the repo you can look into Dell Repo Manager:
>>>
>>>     https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driv
>>>     <https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDetails?driv>
>>>     erId=2GY7P
>>>
>>>     You can customize the repo if you need to hold back a version for 
>>> anything and it's a great tool. Runs on Linux now!!!
>>>
>>>     For firmware updates I used to use .BIN files in the OS. I then moved 
>>> to 64-bit .exe files through DRAC. I now use OME to DRAC for almost 
>>> everything for managing about 600 servers (11/12/13Gen).
>>>
>>>     OME has gotten much better. Based on your numbers though I believe you 
>>> would need to run multiple installs of OME as I "think" it maxes out at 
>>> close to 2000 devices. It's is also good to batch update smaller groups of 
>>> devices at a time (20 or so) rather than trying to update 1000 at a time. 
>>> Just something to think about if you need to end up going this route.
>>>
>>>     Cameron
>>>
>>>     On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Prashant Sun <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     Thanks RS & Florian for your suggestions.
>>>
>>>     I intend to use Catalog.xml file as my primary tool to approve updates 
>>> that are applied by iDRAC or dsu. I plan to download this Catalog.xml and 
>>> publish via ftp/http internally and do a phased roll-out. Say dev servers 
>>> get first.I understand the firmware behaves differently even on same model 
>>> at different times but that's a risk we are willing to take.
>>>
>>>     Couple of more questions:
>>>
>>>     Q1) Does anyone here use iDrac or dsu based updates? Do you mirror the 
>>> upstream repo locally and point to it somehow? Please respond to this list 
>>> or directly so we can talk further.
>>>
>>>     Q2) Any other strategies for updating large(3000+) servers that is OS 
>>> agnostic? I am keeping OME as last option.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Thanks all
>>>
>>>     On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Florian Haller-Casagrande 
>>> <[email protected]
>>>     
>>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>     Another solution is to setup an OpenManage Essential server (or "OME", 
>>> available for free on Dell website), let is scan your network and find all 
>>> you iDRAC (no need to go further, like OS-level or with OMSA agents). It 
>>> will then display you all the available updates for your machines, and you 
>>> will be able to schedule them (or apply them immediately), through the 
>>> iDRAC (and the LC).
>>>
>>>
>>>     That is clearly, IMHO, the easiest way to go with dozens/hundreds of 
>>> servers.
>>>
>>>
>>>     But, these are some limitations I have with this solution :
>>>
>>>     - OME is heavy, requiring a SQL server (embedded) and eating a lot of 
>>>     CPU/RAM when you have hundreds of machines ;
>>>
>>>     - OME offers many features, such as managing iDRAC/BIOS/etc 
>>>     configurations, licenses, hardwares issues and so on, but it is not 
>>>     easy to handle, and to be honest I only use it to update my firmwares 
>>>     ;
>>>
>>>     - 80% of my servers are pretty well detected, but for some of them the 
>>>     inventory task fail, and they are not listed (so I can't update them 
>>>     with OME, I still need to go with a Dell ISO or whatever) ;
>>>
>>>     - As Rene Shuster said, BIOS and LC updates are (almost) the first to 
>>>     run. Personally, I first update all the iDRACs, as OME will go through 
>>>     it to push updates to the LC. So : iDRAC, then BIOS+LC, then 
>>>     everything else ;
>>>
>>>     - I still have many iDRAC6, and the iDRAC update is strangely not 
>>> "reboot-less" (if you upgrade through its webUI, no need to reboot the 
>>> server, only the iDRAC). With OME, the update is loaded (into the LC ?), 
>>> and waiting for server reboot to be applied...
>>>
>>>
>>>     I was previously using the ISO solution, but having to connect to every 
>>> single iDRAC, reboot and then go to PXE boot is time-consuming. And, most 
>>> of the time, you have to reboot twice with the ISO, as some updates fail 
>>> the first time because of some dependences (the Dell support teams are very 
>>> insistent on this point).
>>>
>>>
>>>     As we have various Linux/*BSD systems, we can't rely on DSU or such 
>>> tools (Dell still doesn't support Debian 9...), and that is why I focus on 
>>> out-of-band solutions.
>>>
>>>
>>>     My 2cts.
>>>
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>>>     On 04/18/2018 09:27 PM, R S wrote:
>>>     I recommend to apply BIOS update and LC update separately from all 
>>> other updates and do them first with whatever route you choose. They go 
>>> together is what DELL documentation says. BIOS first, then LC, then reboot 
>>> and hope for the best.
>>>
>>>     Here are the pitfalls I encountered:
>>>     * updating the LC controller will result that all other updates chained 
>>> behind the LC update cannot be applied when using for example an ISO that 
>>> has been created with DELL Repo Manager.
>>>     * You might loose KVM capability when updating LC
>>>     * There is a high chance that a LC update will render your iDRAC/LC 
>>>     into a brick
>>>     * replacing a bricked iDRAC used to be swapping out the iDRAC card 
>>> (available used for $60), starting with iDRAC7 DELL decided to solder it on 
>>> the mainboard.
>>>     * Check the warranty of all 3000 servers first as you will be opening 
>>> tickets with DELL to get your mainboard replaced due to bricked iDRAC/LC if 
>>> they are still under warranty.
>>>     * a lot of PSU updates are not listed in the catalog and you will need 
>>>     to apply them in a different way. I do them last as they need up to 30 
>>>     minutes to apply to both PSU. Don't make the mistake and get impatient 
>>>     and power the server on during the firmware update. The FW update will 
>>>     fail and you will need to start over
>>>     * NIC updates sometimes fail to apply. Sometimes they need stepped 
>>>     updates, for example to fix the underlying issue of not beeing able to 
>>>     update to a more recent FW
>>>     * a lot of HDD/SSD updates are not listed in the catalog either and 
>>> need to be installed in a different way.
>>>     * iDSDM update is not listed in catalog.
>>>
>>>     All of the above depends on a lot of factors. You could have two 
>>> servers with the same FW level and one fails and the other applies all FW 
>>> fine. Even heavily outdated servers might apply the latest FW updates just 
>>> fine, but then again a server just one month behind might fail updating to 
>>> the latest.
>>>
>>>
>>>     On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Prashant Sun <[email protected]
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>     Greetings!
>>>
>>>     I am taking up a project to consolidate the bios/LC/idrac/hw firmware 
>>> updates for powerEdge 12G+ servers and would appreciate if you can answer 
>>> few questions noted below.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Environment: 3000+ Linux servers(RHEL6, 7) all running in multiple 
>>> sites. Primarily PE R600 & 700 series with idrac enterprise 7,8,9.
>>>
>>>     Update Plan: Create a local mirror of the upstream repo and use it in 
>>> some fashion.
>>>
>>>     I narrowed down my update strategy to following options.
>>>
>>>          A. Install using yum repo (os-independent & os-dependent)
>>>
>>>          B. Install using DSU by passing catalog.xml(update definitions) & 
>>>     location of .BIN files(using config.xml)
>>>
>>>          C. Create an iso using DSU by passing Catalog.xml & 
>>> config.xml(pointing to local .BIN repo). Then PXE boot to this iso to patch.
>>>
>>>          D. Setup iDrac scheduled updates using local copy of repo and use 
>>> multiple Catalog.xml to roll-out in phased manner.
>>>
>>>     __Questions__:
>>>
>>>     Q1.  I like option:D as it is OS agnostic and uses iDRAC/LC to apply 
>>>     patches in a scheduled way. Has anyone encountered issues where 
>>>     certain category of updates fail for some reason? Will probably make 
>>>     windows server team happy too with this. :)
>>>
>>>     Q2. I can also deal with option:C which involves creating iso and pxe 
>>> booting servers into it. This has historically worked well for me using 
>>> Dell Repo Mnager but the nv is too large and I'd like to avoid manual work 
>>> having to do this. So curious to know if folks here prefer this over 
>>> option:C.
>>>
>>>     Q3. In order to go with option C or D ), is there a .BIN repo that I 
>>> can mirror locally? Sorry I may not have google'd hard enough. If you have 
>>> the link handy, please share. Thx. I found the Catalog.xml file from 
>>> 'https://downloads.dell.com/catalog/
>>>     <https://downloads.dell.com/catalog/>' but don't see fw files there.
>>>
>>>     Q4. I have never used RPM based updates(option A), but curious to know 
>>> your experiences? Are all updates available via DRM typically also packaged 
>>> into rpms or only a subset?
>>>
>>>     Q5. Option B sounds like a custom tailored updates for each server but 
>>> I have heard from fellow admins that it is a hit or miss.  Do you agree 
>>> with this? Do you recommend even looking at this?
>>>
>>>     Any other ideas to fully automate bios/lc/idrac/hw firmware updates is 
>>> welcome.
>>>
>>>
>>>     Cheers
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