On 20 April 2018 at 14:11, R S <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks for sharing this. Makes me want to spent time and try out OME. > I used the 64bit EXEs in iDRAC just recently for the first time wondering > how the iDRAC can handle EXEs?!?! :) It worked though. > Is OME available for GNU/Linux? > > My understanding is that the EXE is a zip wrapper with the data that the idrac can use embedded inside of it. The idrac doesn't use the EXE but considers parts of it header/footer data with a bundle of other items archived inside. It looks for data it wants, checks the sums with what it is supposed to be and then takes apart the archive inside for what it wants. The EXE when run in windows does some extra housekeeping to talk to the idrac over the internal bus.
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 12:37 PM, Cameron Smith <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> For localizing the repo you can look into Dell Repo Manager: >> >> https://www.dell.com/support/home/us/en/04/Drivers/DriversDe >> tails?driverId=2GY7P >> >> You can customize the repo if you need to hold back a version for >> anything and it's a great tool. Runs on Linux now!!! >> >> For firmware updates I used to use .BIN files in the OS. I then moved to >> 64-bit .exe files through DRAC. I now use OME to DRAC for almost everything >> for managing about 600 servers (11/12/13Gen). >> >> OME has gotten much better. Based on your numbers though I believe you >> would need to run multiple installs of OME as I "think" it maxes out at >> close to 2000 devices. It's is also good to batch update smaller groups of >> devices at a time (20 or so) rather than trying to update 1000 at a time. >> Just something to think about if you need to end up going this route. >> >> Cameron >> >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Prashant Sun <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Thanks RS & Florian for your suggestions. >>> >>> I intend to use Catalog.xml file as my primary tool to approve updates >>> that are applied by iDRAC or dsu. I plan to download this Catalog.xml and >>> publish via ftp/http internally and do a phased roll-out. Say dev servers >>> get first.I understand the firmware behaves differently even on same model >>> at different times but that's a risk we are willing to take. >>> >>> Couple of more questions: >>> >>> Q1) Does anyone here use iDrac or dsu based updates? Do you mirror the >>> upstream repo locally and point to it somehow? Please respond to this list >>> or directly so we can talk further. >>> >>> Q2) Any other strategies for updating large(3000+) servers that is OS >>> agnostic? I am keeping OME as last option. >>> >>> >>> Thanks all >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Florian Haller-Casagrande < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> >>>> Another solution is to setup an OpenManage Essential server (or "OME", >>>> available for free on Dell website), let is scan your network and find all >>>> you iDRAC (no need to go further, like OS-level or with OMSA agents). It >>>> will then display you all the available updates for your machines, and you >>>> will be able to schedule them (or apply them immediately), through the >>>> iDRAC (and the LC). >>>> >>>> >>>> That is clearly, IMHO, the easiest way to go with dozens/hundreds of >>>> servers. >>>> >>>> >>>> But, these are some limitations I have with this solution : >>>> >>>> - OME is heavy, requiring a SQL server (embedded) and eating a lot of >>>> CPU/RAM when you have hundreds of machines ; >>>> >>>> - OME offers many features, such as managing iDRAC/BIOS/etc >>>> configurations, licenses, hardwares issues and so on, but it is not easy to >>>> handle, and to be honest I only use it to update my firmwares ; >>>> >>>> - 80% of my servers are pretty well detected, but for some of them the >>>> inventory task fail, and they are not listed (so I can't update them with >>>> OME, I still need to go with a Dell ISO or whatever) ; >>>> >>>> - As Rene Shuster said, BIOS and LC updates are (almost) the first to >>>> run. Personally, I first update all the iDRACs, as OME will go through it >>>> to push updates to the LC. So : iDRAC, then BIOS+LC, then everything else ; >>>> >>>> - I still have many iDRAC6, and the iDRAC update is strangely not >>>> "reboot-less" (if you upgrade through its webUI, no need to reboot the >>>> server, only the iDRAC). With OME, the update is loaded (into the LC ?), >>>> and waiting for server reboot to be applied... >>>> >>>> >>>> I was previously using the ISO solution, but having to connect to every >>>> single iDRAC, reboot and then go to PXE boot is time-consuming. And, most >>>> of the time, you have to reboot twice with the ISO, as some updates fail >>>> the first time because of some dependences (the Dell support teams are >>>> very insistent >>>> on this point). >>>> >>>> >>>> As we have various Linux/*BSD systems, we can't rely on DSU or such >>>> tools (Dell still doesn't support Debian 9...), and that is why I focus on >>>> out-of-band solutions. >>>> >>>> >>>> My 2cts. >>>> >>>> [image: Logo] <http://www.smile.fr/> >>>> >>>> 107 Boulevard de Stalingrad >>>> 69100 Lyon Villeurbanne >>>> www.smile.fr >>>> *Florian HALLER-CASAGRANDE* >>>> Ingénieur Infrastructures >>>> Email : [email protected] >>>> Tel : +33 4 26 29 12 25 >>>> >>>> [image: Facebook] <https://www.facebook.com/smileopensource> [image: >>>> Google%2B] <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+SmileFrOpenSource/posts> [image: >>>> LinkedIn] <https://www.linkedin.com/in/florianhc> [image: Twitter] >>>> <https://twitter.com/GroupeSmile> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> [image: eco]Pour la planète, n'imprimez ce mail que si c'est >>>> nécessaire. >>>> On 04/18/2018 09:27 PM, R S wrote: >>>> >>>> I recommend to apply BIOS update and LC update separately from all >>>> other updates and do them first with whatever route you choose. They go >>>> together is what DELL documentation says. BIOS first, then LC, then reboot >>>> and hope for the best. >>>> >>>> Here are the pitfalls I encountered: >>>> * updating the LC controller will result that all other updates chained >>>> behind the LC update cannot be applied when using for example an ISO that >>>> has been created with DELL Repo Manager. >>>> * You might loose KVM capability when updating LC >>>> * There is a high chance that a LC update will render your iDRAC/LC >>>> into a brick >>>> * replacing a bricked iDRAC used to be swapping out the iDRAC card >>>> (available used for $60), starting with iDRAC7 DELL decided to solder it on >>>> the mainboard. >>>> * Check the warranty of all 3000 servers first as you will be opening >>>> tickets with DELL to get your mainboard replaced due to bricked iDRAC/LC if >>>> they are still under warranty. >>>> * a lot of PSU updates are not listed in the catalog and you will need >>>> to apply them in a different way. I do them last as they need up to 30 >>>> minutes to apply to both PSU. Don't make the mistake and get impatient and >>>> power the server on during the firmware update. The FW update will fail and >>>> you will need to start over >>>> * NIC updates sometimes fail to apply. Sometimes they need stepped >>>> updates, for example to fix the underlying issue of not beeing able to >>>> update to a more recent FW >>>> * a lot of HDD/SSD updates are not listed in the catalog either and >>>> need to be installed in a different way. >>>> * iDSDM update is not listed in catalog. >>>> >>>> All of the above depends on a lot of factors. You could have two >>>> servers with the same FW level and one fails and the other applies all FW >>>> fine. Even heavily outdated servers might apply the latest FW updates just >>>> fine, but then again a server just one month behind might fail updating to >>>> the latest. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:10 PM, Prashant Sun < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Greetings! >>>>> >>>>> I am taking up a project to consolidate the bios/LC/idrac/hw firmware >>>>> updates for powerEdge 12G+ servers and would appreciate if you can answer >>>>> few questions noted below. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Environment: 3000+ Linux servers(RHEL6, 7) all running in multiple >>>>> sites. Primarily PE R600 & 700 series with idrac enterprise 7,8,9. >>>>> >>>>> Update Plan: Create a local mirror of the upstream repo and use it in >>>>> some fashion. >>>>> >>>>> I narrowed down my update strategy to following options. >>>>> >>>>> A. Install using yum repo (os-independent & os-dependent) >>>>> >>>>> B. Install using DSU by passing catalog.xml(update definitions) >>>>> & location of .BIN files(using config.xml) >>>>> >>>>> C. Create an iso using DSU by passing Catalog.xml & >>>>> config.xml(pointing to local .BIN repo). Then PXE boot to this iso to >>>>> patch. >>>>> >>>>> D. Setup iDrac scheduled updates using local copy of repo and >>>>> use multiple Catalog.xml to roll-out in phased manner. >>>>> >>>>> __Questions__: >>>>> >>>>> Q1. I like option:D as it is OS agnostic and uses iDRAC/LC to apply >>>>> patches in a scheduled way. Has anyone encountered issues where certain >>>>> category of updates fail for some reason? Will probably make windows >>>>> server >>>>> team happy too with this. :) >>>>> >>>>> Q2. I can also deal with option:C which involves creating iso and pxe >>>>> booting servers into it. This has historically worked well for me using >>>>> Dell Repo Mnager but the nv is too large and I'd like to avoid manual work >>>>> having to do this. So curious to know if folks here prefer this over >>>>> option:C. >>>>> >>>>> Q3. In order to go with option C or D ), is there a .BIN repo that I >>>>> can mirror locally? Sorry I may not have google'd hard enough. If you have >>>>> the link handy, please share. Thx. I found the Catalog.xml file from ' >>>>> https://downloads.dell.com/catalog/' but don't see fw files there. >>>>> >>>>> Q4. I have never used RPM based updates(option A), but curious to know >>>>> your experiences? Are all updates available via DRM typically also >>>>> packaged >>>>> into rpms or only a subset? >>>>> >>>>> Q5. Option B sounds like a custom tailored updates for each server but >>>>> I have heard from fellow admins that it is a hit or miss. Do you agree >>>>> with this? Do you recommend even looking at this? >>>>> >>>>> Any other ideas to fully automate bios/lc/idrac/hw firmware updates is >>>>> welcome. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> P >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Linux-PowerEdge mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tech III * AppControl * Endpoint Protection * Server Maintenance >>>> Buncombe County Schools Technology Department Network Group >>>> ComicSans Awareness Campaign <http://comicsanscriminal.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Linux-PowerEdge mailing >>>> [email protected]https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Linux-PowerEdge mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge >>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux-PowerEdge mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-PowerEdge mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge >> >> > > > -- > Tech III * AppControl * Endpoint Protection * Server Maintenance > Buncombe County Schools Technology Department Network Group > ComicSans Awareness Campaign <http://comicsanscriminal.com> > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-PowerEdge mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-poweredge > > -- Stephen J Smoogen.
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