Linux-Setup Digest #13, Volume #19               Wed, 28 Jun 00 03:13:15 EDT

Contents:
  RH 6.2 partitioning glitch (druid bug ?) (Yeoh Yiu)
  Xwindow test pattern in RH install ? (Yeoh Yiu)
  Cannot rsh to linux box (Fred Nastos)
  Re: Cdrom mounting problem ("Lonni J. Friedman")
  Re: Can't install kernel-source (David Efflandt)
  Re: Cannot ping localhost; just hangs (David Efflandt)
  Re: Cannot rsh to linux box (Fred Nastos)
  Re: Partitions (Ewan Edwards)
  Re: Cannot rsh to linux box (David Efflandt)
  Re: Can't install kernel-source (Alex)
  Re: basic networking problem (Ujwal Sathyam)
  modem is way too loud! (Jose)
  Re: Linux newbie Mandrake 7.1/Win95 HD install problem (David Efflandt)
  Re: insmod failed? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: NFS and mounting ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Partitions (Simon Reye)
  Re: Cannot rsh to linux box (Fred Nastos)

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From: Yeoh Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RH 6.2 partitioning glitch (druid bug ?)
Date: 28 Jun 2000 00:17:17 -0400


I'm installing RH 6.2 on single hard drive machine,
and clobbering an NT4 server in the process.

I selected the Gnome Workstation configuration.

The first time I used disk druid to set up the partitions,
and about 20 steps (mostly configuring accounts and Xwindow)
and one hour later, when it came time to add packages, I 
received an error:

        "Error mounting hda3: invalid argument"

this is not a useful message.

If it would tell me I'm trying to mount /tmp on filesystem 
type swap and I need to change the filesystem type from
swap to linux native or something, but there's no detail on
what's wrong or what exactly needs to be changed.

Or maybe there was a problem with formatting these partitions,
but I saw no error message about formatting errors.

What's more annoying is after closing the Error message,
both the Back and Next buttons were grayed out, so I'm
stuck at having to reboot, choose language, time zone,
and Xwindow config info before I get another shot at
completing the error.  There should be a way to navigate 
backwards without losing my hand entered data.


The second time, after rebooting from the boot.img floppy,
I tried fdisk an notably it showed partitions as
/tmp/hda1
/tmp/hda2
   etc
and then the next button lead my to a druid screen which 
showed me the partitions which I had defined with fdisk,
but somehow I could not choose one of my partitions to be a 
swap partition except by deleting a partition then adding
a new partition of type swap.

Anyway, I rebooted yet again from the boot.img floppy, and this time
asked for the KDE workstation, and had no problems recognizing my
partitions, and my packages are being added as fast as a 24x CD-ROM
can go.

I reboot without the floppy and Trend's clueless ChipAway tells me I
have a virus.  I take that to mean lilo was successfully installed,
changing my boot record, so I disable Trend in BIOS, and reboot,
and all is well.


squid.
 I just saw a headline "Celera Still Lagging After Genome News"
and read it as "Caldera still lagging after Gnome News".



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From: Yeoh Yiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Xwindow test pattern in RH install ?
Date: 28 Jun 2000 00:20:01 -0400


on RH 6.2 install, during configuring X Window,
there is a section on testing the configuration
(monitor size, video chipset, and synch rate, etc.)

read about it at 
http://www.redhat.com/support/manuals/RHL-6.2-Manual/install-guide/s1-cd-rom-gui-xconf.html

Would anybody have been cluefull enough to take a screenshot
of what a 'successful' rendering of the
test pattern looks like ?


squid.

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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Cannot rsh to linux box
Date: 28 Jun 2000 04:21:20 GMT

Hi, we are setting up out first Linux box for our
network. The rest of the network are IBMs running
AIX. Everything looks to be working fine, but we 
cannot rsh to the box. No error message... nothing.
The terminal just sits there as if it were waiting
for input. Any ideas? Is there a daemon or something
we need to enable on the linux machine. FTP, and
telnet work fine. Thanks for any suggestions.

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From: "Lonni J. Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cdrom mounting problem
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 23:37:37 -0400



CKTong wrote:
> 
> I am running my P100 linux box using Mandrake 6.5.
> When I try to use the the Cdrom, a KFM error message appear:
> 
> mount : /dev/cdrom
> is not a valid block device
> 
> What seem to be the problem ?

Its telling you the problem, /dev/cdrom is not a valid block device. 
Your CD drive has to be a block device, not a symlink pointing to the
block device.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Can't install kernel-source
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:12:48 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 15:47:27 -0400, Mel Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Using RPM to install kernel-source.  Error message returned
>"kernel-headers=2.2.5 is needed by kernel-source 2.2.5-15"
>The file "kernel-headers 2.2.5-15" is on the CDROM in the same directory.
>Redhat does not list the problem nor a fix.
>Any help is appreciated.

If one rpm is dependant on another rpm, it means you should install the
other one first.  Did you try installing the required kernel-headers and
then the kernel source?

>Particulars.
>
>Redhat 6.0 Hedwig
>Kernel 2.2.5-15
>RPM 3.0.2
>Intel Pentium platform
>booting from floppy disk with dedicated 1 G hard drive  for Linux
>CDROM is publisher's edition came with Barkakati's third edition of "Secrets
>of Redhat Linux'


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Cannot ping localhost; just hangs
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:28:56 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000 12:42:40 GMT, JDonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi I'm a ppp user (no net card) and I can't ping localhost (I do
>have it defined).  I think I need to add it to my routing table
>somehow.  Here's some output:
>
>[root@mystery jd]# cat /etc/hosts
>127.0.0.1       localhost       localhost.localdomain
>127.0.0.1       mystery         mystery.localdomain

You cannot have the same IP listed twice.  But you can use any other
127.x.x.x IP instead.  Try making the second one 127.0.0.2.  Note that
because of multiple listings for the same IP, the lo interface below is
missing its IP and I am surprised that pppd works at all.

>[root@mystery jd]# ifconfig -a
>lo        Link encap:Local Loopback  
>          LOOPBACK  MTU:3924  Metric:1
>          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 
>
>ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol  
>          inet addr:63.214.108.242  P-t-P:209.247.23.42 
>Mask:255.255.255.255
>          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1524  Metric:1
>          RX packets:1703 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
>          TX packets:1409 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
>          collisions:0 txqueuelen:10 
>
>
>
>[root@mystery jd]# /sbin/route -n
>Kernel IP routing table
>Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use
>Iface
>209.247.23.42   0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH    0      0        0
>ppp0
>0.0.0.0         209.247.23.42   0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0
>ppp0
>
>
>
>So it looks like I need a route to localhost.  When (from the route
>manpage)
>I do:  
>
>[root@mystery jd]# /sbin/route add -net 127.0.0.0
>SIOCADDRT: Invalid argument

If you fix your /etc/hosts then ifconfig will fix itself and this route
will likely magically appear automatically.

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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot rsh to linux box
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:14:11 GMT

Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Correction
> cannot rsh to the box. No error message... nothing.

The message I get is
linuxbox: A connection with a remote socket was reset by that socket.

All I get out of that message is "go learn about sockets." Any
ideas? Thank you.

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From: Ewan Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Partitions
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:18 +1000



Simon Reye wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:31:12 +1000, Ewan Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> >Simon Reye wrote:
> >>
> >> I've setup Red Hat Linux before and had a look around but it was only
> >> on a small partition.  I've now been able to get rid of Windows 98 and
> >> have a full 6Gb hard drive to muck around with and plan to install
> >> Linux here.  My question is do I really need to create 6 or 7
> >> different partitions as suggested or can I get away with just the main
> >> partition and a swap partition?  What is the purpose of different
> >> partitions?  Also I want to try and setup Linux as a server of sorts -
> >> although it won't be doing any great things and will just be on my
> >> home network.  I just want some experience in setting it up and
> >> maintaining it.  So it'll be a web server, file server, mail server
> >> and probably some other stuff like DNS.  Do I really need the whole
> >> 6Gb considering it just for testing or can I get away with say 4 of
> >> 5Gbs worth of space (I'd like to test BeOS out as well which is why I
> >> want a little bit of space left over)
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> Simon
> >
> >
> >
> >No, you don't NEED to set up that many partitions.  All you really NEED
> >is
> >is a single primary partition with a swap _file_, but that is not
> >recommended.
> >
> >My _personal_ minimum recommendation is a root partition (/) of
> >1500-2000Mb,
> >a swap partition of about 120Mb, and a home (/home) partition of 1000Mb.
> >The purpose of keeping the home partition separate is so that you can
> >rebuild
> >the whole system at any time without risking any of those cool downloads
> >etc.
> >that you have.
> 
> Oh and that's another thing I forgot to mention.  I now have 128Mb of
> RAM so does that mean my swap partition should be around 256Mb?
> 
> Simon


Simon, when you are setting up a Linux box, you probably should not be  
reading any NT books.  :->

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Cannot rsh to linux box
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:33:16 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On 28 Jun 2000 04:21:20 GMT, Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi, we are setting up out first Linux box for our
>network. The rest of the network are IBMs running
>AIX. Everything looks to be working fine, but we 
>cannot rsh to the box. No error message... nothing.
>The terminal just sits there as if it were waiting
>for input. Any ideas? Is there a daemon or something
>we need to enable on the linux machine. FTP, and
>telnet work fine. Thanks for any suggestions.

Do you have the following line UNcommented in /etc/inetd.conf:

login   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  in.rlogind

Did you set up an .rhosts file in your home dir of the box you are trying
to rsh into consisting of remote hostname or IP and remote login name of
the box you are trying to rsh from?

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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Can't install kernel-source
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 01:36:02 -0400


> If one rpm is dependant on another rpm, it means you should 
> install the
> other one first.  Did you try installing the required 
> kernel-headers and
> then the kernel source?
> 
> >Particulars.
> >
> >Redhat 6.0 Hedwig
> >Kernel 2.2.5-15
> >RPM 3.0.2
> >Intel Pentium platform
> >booting from floppy disk with dedicated 1 G hard drive  for Linux
> >CDROM is publisher's edition came with Barkakati's third edition of "Secrets
> >of Redhat Linux'
> 

In fact, you can install all the required package at the same time. I
use RedHat 6.0 too and I just upgrade two machines' kernel to 2.2.16-3
few days a ago. I did not have any problem with the installation.

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From: Ujwal Sathyam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: basic networking problem
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:36:52 GMT

What happens when you run /sbin/ifconfig on the non-working machine? 
Does it report the IP address you specified for eth0? Are you using the 
correct driver for the network card. Cheack /etc/conf.modules for a line 
that starts with "alias eth0..."

Have you tried all combinations between the machines? How are you 
connecting all the three machines together? Do you have a hub, or are 
you using a cross-over cable to connect two machines? If you are using a 
hub, check that you are not accidentally using the uplink port.

Ujwal

In article <8j88b0$8ks$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Neil West" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am trying to configure 3 Linux computers to be networked to each other.
> Two of the machines are networked.  I can ping each from the other.  One 
> of
> the machines is not on the network i.e. not pingable.  I have been trying 
> to
> ping using ip address.  The two machines are setup using these parameters 
> in
> ifcfg-eth0 :
> name:  home
> ip address 172.16.1.2
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> broadcase 172.16.1.255
> network 172.16.1.0
> 
> name:  neil
> ip address 172.16.1.5
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> broadcase 172.16.1.255
> network 172.16.1.0
> 
> The computer not on the network is configured as such (in ifcfg-eth0):
> name:  alpha
> ip address 172.16.1.9
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> broadcase 172.16.1.255
> network 172.16.1.0
> 
> The network card in the non working machine seems to be working.  The 
> light
> on the switch is on and when I ping it blinks.  One of the working 
> machines
> has a 100 mps card and one has a 10 mps card and both are 3com (3c509 I
> think).  The non working is also a 10 mps 3c509 and I have tried  the 
> cards
> from the working machines as well.  I have triple checked all of the 
> network
> cables.  My question is:  If I were to setup a Linux box to be accessable 
> to
> a network, all I need to do in order to ping the other computers is set 
> up
> ifcfg-eth0 correctly.  Is this right or am I completely missing the boat.
> The other machines were set up 2 months ago by me.  They are also running
> samba but the samba service is not started.  Please help, I have put in 
> at
> least 19 hours just trying to get this one machine on the network.
> 
> Thanks for your help.
> 
> Neil West
> 
> 
> 
>

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From: Jose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: modem is way too loud!
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 07:35:35 +0200

Hi all!

I recently installed Suse linux 6.2 and everything works quite nicely so
far... but my modem is very loud through the whole process of dialing
up, and then it stays loud when I get connected to my ISP. Where can I
set the modem speaker off?

Thanks in advance

Jose


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Linux newbie Mandrake 7.1/Win95 HD install problem
Date: 28 Jun 2000 05:47:22 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, John Slaney
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I recently installed Mandrake 7.1, and had a strange problem after the
>install.  I started out with a 30G HD, used MS fdisk to partition it
>into 1 primary (C:) of about 10Gig, 1 extended partition of 9Gig with
>only one logical drive filling the whole extended partition.  These were
>both formatted with FAT32, and WIN95B was installed on the primary.  The
>D: was functional and visible until I installed Mandrake (custom, 2
>partitions, one root and one swap filling up the rest of the drive).
>For some reason, the 9Gig is still visible in Linux (as a Windows/FAT32
>drive), but not on Win95.  I've tried this twice, with no success.  I
>upgraded the BIOS on the MB (ASUS P5A/B, K6-2/333, 64M) to a recent one
>(1/2000?).  I'm sure this is a shortcoming of Windows, so no need for
>any propaganda there. ;).  I know there was a recent similar post, but
>he did not detail the solution enough, and his email doesn't work.  MS
>fdisk doesn't seem to understand what the heck is on the rest of the
>disk (other than the primary) and corrupted everything else when I tried
>to re-create D:.  Any suggestions on how to make the 2nd FAT32 visible
>to Windows?  I don't have any data on it that I need (yet).

It might help to see the output of Linux fdisk.  I have Mandrake 7.0
happily coexisting in the same extended partition as a Win98se D: drive on
my laptop like this:

   Device Boot    Start       End    Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1             1       653   5245191    b  Win95 FAT32
/dev/hda2   *       654       655     16065   83  Linux /boot LILO
/dev/hda3           656      1099   3566430    f  Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hda5           656       872   1743021   83  Linux /
/dev/hda6           873       897    200781   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda7           898      1099   1622533+   b  Win95 FAT32

Note: vfat partitions larger than 1024 cyl would be type 'c'.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: insmod failed?
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Date: 28 Jun 2000 01:54:45 -0400

In comp.os.linux.questions Devon Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It's actually enabled at boot up, but fails at 'insmod 3c509'. After the
> system has comeup, I can then manually do 'insmod 3c509' then 'ifconfig eth1
> 192.168.0.1' insmod seems to timeout on boot.

Isn't there an "after" and "before" directive one can use in modules.conf
(I am completely new to Unix, so am not sure of the name)? You may want to
force one of the drivers to wait until the other driver has installed by
using that.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: NFS and mounting
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 05:57:41 GMT

Yes. The Linux CD-ROM is mounted in /mnt/cdrom.

I will try the killall things. After the kill all, do I need to restart
the daemons?

Taison


In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
  Michael Nadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was the Linux CD-ROM mounted in /mnt/cdrom?  If not, that could
explain the
> NFS mount error.  An fstype problem perhaps?
>
> If it was mounted properly, you might post
your /etc/exports, /etc/fstab
> entries related to the CDROM.
>
> And, if you ever change /etc/exports, you always have to follow that
with:
>
>     killall -HUP rpc.mountd
>     killall -HUP rpc.nfsd
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > I have a CD-ROM drive that is part of my Linux box. I want to
install
> > software on my SGI machine using the CD-ROM that is a part of the
Linux
> > box. So I thought I could edit the /etc/exports file and the
hosts.allow
> > file on the Linux box and then edit the fstab file on the SGI.
Well, I
> > did
> > that and I got this error when I tried to mount:
> >
> > # mount -a
> > mount: chum.seas.ucla.edu:/mnt/cdrom server not responding: Program
not
> > registered
> > NFS version 3 mount failed, trying NFS version 2
> >
> > And it never worked. So I thought I needed to start the daemons. So
on
> > the
> > Linux box I typed:
> >
> > # rpc.nfsd
> > # rpc.mountd
> >
> > So now when I tried to mount I got this:
> >
> > # mount -a
> > mount: chum.seas.ucla.edu:/mnt/cdrom on /cdrom: Unknown error
> > mount: giving up on:
> >    /cdrom
> >
> > Anyone know what might be wrong? I really need this to work since I
must
> > install the software ASAP.
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Taison
> >
> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > Before you buy.
>
>


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Simon Reye)
Subject: Re: Partitions
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 06:41:32 GMT

On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 15:32:18 +1000, Ewan Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
>Simon Reye wrote:
>> 
>> On Wed, 28 Jun 2000 12:31:12 +1000, Ewan Edwards <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> >
>> >
>> >Simon Reye wrote:
>> >>

< Snip>

>> 
>> Oh and that's another thing I forgot to mention.  I now have 128Mb of
>> RAM so does that mean my swap partition should be around 256Mb?
>> 
>> Simon
>
>
>Simon, when you are setting up a Linux box, you probably should not be  
>reading any NT books.  :->

Yes I know, but I've seen people on this newsgroup generally double
the RAM as a guide to the size of the swap.  Is this the general
practice for Linux or not?

Simon

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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cannot rsh to linux box
Date: 28 Jun 2000 06:38:20 GMT

David Efflandt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 28 Jun 2000 04:21:20 GMT, Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Do you have the following line UNcommented in /etc/inetd.conf:

> login   stream  tcp     nowait  root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  in.rlogind

Yes! It is uncommented. I'm assuming I should comment it out.
Do I need to reboot the machine, or is there someother command
that avoids that. Thank you

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