Linux-Setup Digest #79, Volume #19 Wed, 5 Jul 00 03:13:09 EDT
Contents:
MWave driers (Tobias Harvey Tews)
Re: No 'rescue root' disk in Slackware 7.1? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: How to make a pc to a router ? ("Kenneth W. Zahorec")
Wrong major or minor number --but it's wrong (greg)
[question] [Mandrake 7.1] [UDMA100] [support] [Promise] (JASON SNYDER)
Re: I am a newbie and I need help. (Dennis Lee Bieber)
gnome with server installation? ("lizard")
Re: MWave driers (E J)
Changing The Window Manager ("Michael Hart")
Re: what file contains network ino? (Lew Pitcher)
Re: Xfree86-4.0 and fonts: where do the come from? (Eric)
Re: Wrong major or minor number --but it's wrong (Eric)
Re: Wrong major or minor number --but it's wrong (Rob Harvey)
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From: Tobias Harvey Tews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: MWave driers
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:13:02 GMT
Anyone know when those IBM scammers will get off their butts and finish
that linux driver for MWave? Or are they not going to bother?
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: No 'rescue root' disk in Slackware 7.1?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:24:09 GMT
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 01:08:30 GMT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| On 5 Jul 2000 01:06:44 GMT, ljb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
|>I think Slackware 4.0 was the last one with a Rescue Root disk, which you
|>could use with a boot floppy to recover a system from various problems. Did
|>this go away with Slackware 7.0, a casualty of the upgrade to glibc? It
|>seems to be missing at Slackware 7.1 too. This was really useful - is there
|>any alternative to use to fix problems on a server which cannot reliably
|>boot from CD?
|
| If you can't boot from CD then you should fix your crap hardware.
|
| Or get something newer than a 386.
Having gotten rip of floppy drives altogether, I worked up a different
solution. I build a rescue partition in the first 30 megabytes of the
disk. It holds enough of a system to be able to boot up and do rescue
chores. It also holds the kernel and lilo for the main system so I
don't have to use other means to avoid the cylinder 1023 problem.
I just got Slackware 7.1 downloaded and am working on building up a
7.1 based version of the small rescue partition. Eventually it will
be released for public access.
Alternatively, you could do this by making a 100 meg partition big
enough to put zipslack in it.
--
| Phil Howard - KA9WGN | My current websites: linuxhomepage.com, ham.org
| phil (at) ipal.net +----------------------------------------------------
| Dallas - Texas - USA | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Kenneth W. Zahorec" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,linux.help,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: How to make a pc to a router ?
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 04:33:41 GMT
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Peter wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have three computers, using Linux as operative system. I want to connect
> all of my computer to gather and make one of these computers as a router to
> my little network.
>
> I could send and receive data from each computers. But I dont know how to
> make one of them be a router? Should I use some special software to make it
> to be a router. Or I could configure Linux to be a router ?
>
> I would be very happy if you could give me some tips about router and how to
> make a router the software I should use or ...
>
> Thanks allot Peter
Any networked pc is actually a router. A pc with a single network card in it
is a simple router with a single default route which is directed out of the
box. This default route is typically set up via a Dynamic Host Config Protocol
(DHCP) server located somewhere on the network.
It sounds like you want to create your own subnet within an already existing
network. To do this you need to use one of your linux PC's. You will have two
network cards installed into it. One network card will connect to your local
subnet through a switch or hub. The other network card will connect to the
existing network switch or hub. In some cases this may in fact be a modem
which connects to the ISP's network.
In any case, you will setup the linux box to enable both interfaces (eth0 and
eth1) upon boot. You must setup the routing characteristics of the linux box
using the ipchains utility. This will establish what to do with IP messages as
they are received from the subnet side. Typically you can mask the IP messages
and pass them out to the existing network. Masking the messages merely means
to use the IP source address of the linux box on the existing network. To the
existing network, the traffic appears to be coming from a single PC (single IP
address). The masking functionality in the linux ip stack can manage the
transformation back to the originator within the subnet by unmasking the return
message and return it to the original host on the subnet.
You don't have to use ip masking, but, if you don't, you may need additional
IP addresses from your ISP and they could charge you for additional services
based on this.
It's difficult to suggest a particular solution without knowing exactly what
your intentions are for this subnet. A router implies that you are connecting
two subnets together and require IP message traffic to flow between them.
If you are only trying to connect three computers together, then you don't need
a router. You need a hub or switch. A linux box can serve as this but you
will need a network card to connect each host within the subnet. This seems
very costly.
You may want to seriously consider using DHCPd running on the router to serve
up IP configurations to the hosts on the internal subnet. The DHCPd
configuration file will dictate settings such as IP address and default route
IP to the hosts on the internal subnet. This makes setting up internal hosts
very easy. Just specify DHCP as the protocol for the eth0 interfaces on these
hosts. If you don't use DHCP, then you will need to set up the IP
configurations of the hosts on the internal subnet manually (both IP address
and defaut route address). Since the linux box will be providing the routing
to and from the network, it only makes sense that it also provides the setup
for the subnet hosts.
Hope this helps you out,
--
Kenneth W. Zahorec
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Discover Linux today!
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Peter wrote:
<blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi
<p>I have three computers, using Linux as operative system. I want
to connect
<br>all of my computer to gather and make one of these computers as a router
to
<br>my little network.
<p>I could send and receive data from each computers. But I dont
know how to
<br>make one of them be a router? Should I use some special software
to make it
<br>to be a router. Or I could configure Linux to be a router ?
<p>I would be very happy if you could give me some tips about router and
how to
<br>make a router the software I should use or ...
<p>Thanks allot Peter</blockquote>
Any networked pc is actually a router. A pc with a single network
card in it is a simple router with a single default route which is directed
out of the box. This default route is typically set up via a Dynamic
Host Config Protocol (DHCP) server located somewhere on the network.
<br>It sounds like you want to create your own subnet within an already
existing network. To do this you need to use one of your linux PC's.
You will have two network cards installed into it. One network card
will connect to your local subnet through a switch or hub. The other
network card will connect to the existing network switch or hub.
In some cases this may in fact be a modem which connects to the ISP's network.
<br>In any case, you will setup the linux box to enable both interfaces
(eth0 and eth1) upon boot. You must setup the routing characteristics
of the linux box using the ipchains utility. This will establish
what to do with IP messages as they are received from the subnet side.
Typically you can mask the IP messages and pass them out to the existing
network. Masking the messages merely means to use the IP source address
of the linux box on the existing network. To the existing network,
the traffic appears to be coming from a single PC (single IP address).
The masking functionality in the linux ip stack can manage the transformation
back to the originator within the subnet by unmasking the return message
and return it to the original host on the subnet.
<br>You don't have to use ip masking, but, if you don't, you may need additional
IP addresses from your ISP and they could charge you for additional
services based on this.
<br>It's difficult to suggest a particular solution without knowing exactly
what your intentions are for this subnet. A router implies that you
are connecting two subnets together and require IP message traffic to flow
between them.
<br>If you are only trying to connect three computers together, then you
don't need a router. You need a hub or switch. A linux box
can serve as this but you will need a network card to connect each host
within the subnet. This seems very costly.
<br>You may want to seriously consider using DHCPd running on the router
to serve up IP configurations to the hosts on the internal subnet.
The DHCPd configuration file will dictate settings such as IP address and
default route IP to the hosts on the internal subnet. This makes
setting up internal hosts very easy. Just specify DHCP as the protocol
for the eth0 interfaces on these hosts. If you don't use DHCP, then
you will need to set up the IP configurations of the hosts on the internal
subnet manually (both IP address and defaut route address). Since
the linux box will be providing the routing to and from the network, it
only makes sense that it also provides the setup for the subnet hosts.
<p>Hope this helps you out,
<pre>--
<b>Kenneth W. Zahorec
</b>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Discover Linux today!</pre>
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From: greg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Wrong major or minor number --but it's wrong
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 22:34:45 -0700
I can't mount certain partions on my drive.
Distro: RH 6.2
Kernel: 2.2.16
Patch : linux-2.2.16-ow1 (security patch)
* The partitions are either vfat, fat or msdos filesystems. I get the
message "wrong major or minor number" when I try to mount them
* I have compliled the kernel with built in support for these files
systems. I have also tried compiling the kernel with these filesystems
as modules. Same result both times.
* I have tried deleting and remaking one of the nodes --no change.
## Here is my disk info:
hdb13 mounts automatically at boot, hdb14 is one of the partitions I
can't mount, hdb15 is I linux partition that I mount manually. You can
see that the major & minor numbers are as they should be. The
difference in dates is from me trying to build a new node. I didn't
change the permission yet, but I don't think it sould make a difference
in mounting it.
# ls -l tells me
0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 77 May 5 1998 /dev/hdb13
0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3, 78 Jul 4 16:09 /dev/hdb14
0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 79 May 5 1998 /dev/hdb15
## Here's all the partition info on the disk
Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1650 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hdb1 * 1 190 1526143+ 6 FAT16
/dev/hdb2 191 1650 11727450 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/hdb5 191 445 2048256 b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdb6 446 471 208813+ 6 FAT16
/dev/hdb7 472 474 24066 83 Linux
/dev/hdb8 475 491 136521 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdb9 492 508 136521 82 Linux swap
/dev/hdb10 509 634 1012063+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb11 635 864 1847443+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb12 865 993 1036161 83 Linux
/dev/hdb13 994 1179 1494013+ 83 Linux
/dev/hdb14 1185 1268 674698+ b Win95 FAT32
/dev/hdb15 1269 1650 3068383+ 83 Linux
## And here is what "df" gives me
Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
/dev/hdb10 996116 206672 738844 22% /
/dev/hdb7 23302 768 21331 3% /boot
/dev/hdb12 1019864 9808 958248 1% /home
/dev/hdb13 1470492 476028 919764 34% /opt
/dev/hdb11 1818352 990896 735084 57% /usr
/dev/hdb15 3020140 2625672 241052 92% /mnt
I've combed through the RedHat archives, and haven't found this problem.
Looking through the deja archives reveals some similar problems, but no
definitve answers, and none that worked for me.
Any help will be greatly appreciated
thanks
greg
--
greg :: Bodhisattva with a real bad attitude
---------------------------------------------------
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From: JASON SNYDER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [question] [Mandrake 7.1] [UDMA100] [support] [Promise]
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 05:44:46 GMT
I was able to install Mandrake 7.1 to a hd on a Promise ULTRA66 card
(PDC20262) without doing anything special. (OK, I ended up tweaking the
transfer mode with hdparm, but I don't consider that special.)
I noticed on www.linux-ide.org's site that the Promise ULTRA100
(PDC20267) now has support under linux, but the main question is does
Mandrake 7.1 support that controller? Also are there other controllers
that are recommended over the Promise controller and why?
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From: Dennis Lee Bieber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I am a newbie and I need help.
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 22:46:48 -0700
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000 03:42:08 GMT, Homer Jay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
declaimed the following in comp.os.linux.setup:
>
> Getting that large of a file over to your Linux box on floppies will
> be problematic. Some utils, such as WinZip, allow you to make an
> archive over multiple floppies. However, I do not know about
> compatibilites (if any) between linux and win compression programs
> with such files. If you can find a good windows `tar' utility that
> can span floppies, you may have an easy time untarring it on Linux.
> Otherwise, either install network cards or buy a real modem.
>
If both machines are in the same room, or within some 20 odd
feet of each other, "real modem" or NIC may not be needed for one-off
file transfers. A good ol' null-modem cable between serial ports should
be possible (though I'll admit I'm not sure how tricky it is to set up
"direct connect" networking through serial ports between W9x and Linux).
--
> ============================================================== <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Bestiaria Support Staff <
> ============================================================== <
> Bestiaria Home Page: http://www.beastie.dm.net/ <
> Home Page: http://www.dm.net/~wulfraed/ <
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From: "lizard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: gnome with server installation?
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 22:52:20 -0700
Hi
Which files do I need to install to run gnome on a server. I am using
Mandrake 7.0. Thanks
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: MWave driers
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 23:04:47 -0700
Well, get off your butt and write or email a letter to IBM to release the
program specification for their MWave DSP chipset.
Many chip manufacturers are realizing that it is their best interest to
release program specification so they will be supported under Linux.
It is hard to modify your sound source code without program specification
to support your sound card.
My sound card was not fully supported, but I examined the source code and
recompiled a custom module for my sound card, and
it works fine.
Tobias Harvey Tews wrote:
> Anyone know when those IBM scammers will get off their butts and finish
> that linux driver for MWave? Or are they not going to bother?
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From: "Michael Hart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing The Window Manager
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 16:16:32 +1000
When I installed linux I chose to install the gnome wm. Now I find that I
must use the KDE environment if I want to install kdevelop.
Can anyone describe how to go about changing to the new wm (i.e. what
packages I should install and what configration files I need to edit)
thanks
Michael Hart
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From: Lew Pitcher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: what file contains network ino?
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 19:43:10 -0400
Peter Bismuti wrote:
>
> Hi, what file contains the network configuration? meaning, when you
> execute netconf or netconfig, where is this information dumped?
>
> I'm hoping that is dumped to only one file so I can write a script
> that swaps them out.
>
> Thanks
netconfig is a symbolic link to a bourne shell script. You can read
the script to see which files are updated.
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright and JOAT-in-training
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Xfree86-4.0 and fonts: where do the come from?
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:21:43 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi Ray,
With the help of some other postings on my previous post I finally got
it working, dunno what it was that exactly did the trick, but I'll
explain step by step what I did (Suppose all steps are needed).
First check this site, there's some info on what a good fonts.dir file
should look like (don't bother about the TT fonts servers parts)
http://home.c2i.net/dark/linux.html
And then make sure that the first FontPath you declare is pointing to
the directory where the fonts.alias file is that describes the fixed
fonts!
(This appears to be an important thing that I overlooked!) (On my system
it's in the /usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/misc directory (or something like
that), dunno if that's the default?) So the file section looks like:
Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/75dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/100dpi"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/fonts/TrueType"
EndSection
Now when I did that it still didn't work, until I remebered the FreeType
module. When I include that I had the TT fonts!!!!!!!!!
:-)
Hope you can use this info,
You can contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] if something isn't clear
Eric
ray wrote:
>
> Eric wrote:
>
> > Hi there,
> >
> > Yesterday I posted a question w.r.t. TTfonts and XFree86-4.0, but the
> > actual problem I'm having is even more puzzling to me. I can startx just
> > fine as long as I do not provide a ?valid? fontpath in the XF86Config
> > file. At this moment I have no fontpaths listed in the XF86Config file,
> > but still XFree86 finds some 800 fonts or so. Where does it get
> > these???? And how can I check if a fonts path is correct. What are the
> > fonts.dir fonts.scale etc files supposed to look like?
> > Any pointers to more information regarding this subject would be greatly
> > appreciated, 'cause I'd really like to be able to add fonts.
> >
> > Eric
>
> Yeah, me too, I am bewildered by this issue. My experience has been
> that the FontPath things do indeed work, here, for me. But, nothing I have
> tried has ever made TT fonts available. I "think" (grain of salt, please)
> that the module that "should" attend to this is named FreeType, and I have
> insured that it is loading, and the path is right, and the permissions
> allow XF86 to read them, etc. I had this working great under XF 3.3.6 using
> xfstt, but, the docs for XF84-4.0 say that you can't do that anymore, and
> guess what? The people who wrote the code are right, it blows Netscape off
> the screen, completely, when I try to make it "see" a TTF. I keep your
> address, you keep mine, sharing is what makes it all work, anyway. :)))))
>
> GOOD LUCK, Ray
>
> --
> Ray R. Jones
> Linux 2.4.0-test2
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> HTTP://gordo.penguinpowered.com
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From: Eric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Wrong major or minor number --but it's wrong
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:28:55 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can't mount hdb5 and hdb6 either?
And what about hdb1? (as a primary that should at least work, right)
Are you sure the partitions are formatted with the correct FS?
These are just some things to check and report back to us,
Eric
greg wrote:
>
> I can't mount certain partions on my drive.
>
> Distro: RH 6.2
> Kernel: 2.2.16
> Patch : linux-2.2.16-ow1 (security patch)
>
> * The partitions are either vfat, fat or msdos filesystems. I get the
> message "wrong major or minor number" when I try to mount them
>
> * I have compliled the kernel with built in support for these files
> systems. I have also tried compiling the kernel with these filesystems
> as modules. Same result both times.
>
> * I have tried deleting and remaking one of the nodes --no change.
>
> ## Here is my disk info:
>
> hdb13 mounts automatically at boot, hdb14 is one of the partitions I
> can't mount, hdb15 is I linux partition that I mount manually. You can
> see that the major & minor numbers are as they should be. The
> difference in dates is from me trying to build a new node. I didn't
> change the permission yet, but I don't think it sould make a difference
> in mounting it.
>
> # ls -l tells me
>
> 0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 77 May 5 1998 /dev/hdb13
>
> 0 brw-rw-r-- 1 root root 3, 78 Jul 4 16:09 /dev/hdb14
>
> 0 brw-rw---- 1 root disk 3, 79 May 5 1998 /dev/hdb15
>
> ## Here's all the partition info on the disk
>
> Disk /dev/hdb: 255 heads, 63 sectors, 1650 cylinders
> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 bytes
>
> Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
> /dev/hdb1 * 1 190 1526143+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hdb2 191 1650 11727450 f Win95 Ext'd (LBA)
> /dev/hdb5 191 445 2048256 b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hdb6 446 471 208813+ 6 FAT16
> /dev/hdb7 472 474 24066 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb8 475 491 136521 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hdb9 492 508 136521 82 Linux swap
> /dev/hdb10 509 634 1012063+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb11 635 864 1847443+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb12 865 993 1036161 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb13 994 1179 1494013+ 83 Linux
> /dev/hdb14 1185 1268 674698+ b Win95 FAT32
> /dev/hdb15 1269 1650 3068383+ 83 Linux
>
> ## And here is what "df" gives me
>
> Filesystem 1k-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hdb10 996116 206672 738844 22% /
> /dev/hdb7 23302 768 21331 3% /boot
> /dev/hdb12 1019864 9808 958248 1% /home
> /dev/hdb13 1470492 476028 919764 34% /opt
> /dev/hdb11 1818352 990896 735084 57% /usr
> /dev/hdb15 3020140 2625672 241052 92% /mnt
>
> I've combed through the RedHat archives, and haven't found this problem.
> Looking through the deja archives reveals some similar problems, but no
> definitve answers, and none that worked for me.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated
>
> thanks
>
> greg
>
> --
> greg :: Bodhisattva with a real bad attitude
> ---------------------------------------------------
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Subject: Re: Wrong major or minor number --but it's wrong
From: Rob Harvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 23:41:23 -0700
"I didn't change the permission yet, but I don't think it sould
make a difference in mounting it."
Not the permissions, I think, but the owners of the nodes. You
created a new node but if it doesn't have the correct group
(disk), you may not be able to mount.
I'm not sure on this, so tell me if it makes a difference.
Rob Harvey
Programmer, Networker, Consultant.
Specializing in C++, Java and Linux systems.
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