Linux-Setup Digest #90, Volume #19                Thu, 6 Jul 00 00:13:09 EDT

Contents:
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. ("Brian")
  Re: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Mouse works during install, not after ("Eric Longman")
  Re: Telnet not starting on RH 6.2 (Randy Mullican)
  Re: newbie question (Michael Nadler)
  Re: Mouse control under Xfree 4.0 vs 3.3.5 (Bone head)
  Re: How to reset root password (slackware) (Michael Nadler)
  Re: Read/Write Access to FAT32 Partitions (C.J.)
  Can I get some modem help? (Kelli Halliburton)
  [Q] superblock corrupt ("Kim, Yong-Woon")
  Re: CD Writing software ("Adam H.")
  Disconnecting Users on demand ("Adam H.")

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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.turbolinux,alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:17:22 GMT

<clipped for brevity>

Alex wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>You really think so? I have used M$ Windoz for over six years. I have done
>Windoz installation so many times. I find myself having a lot of trouble
>installing Windoz 98. On the other hand, I only use Linux (Red Hat) for 2
years
>(Starting with Version 5.2).


I have been installing and configuring Windows since it was called IBM DOS!
Sometimes the magic works but more often than not there are many problems.
One of the biggest problems when installing W98 is the horrendous upgrades
that must be installed by downloading from MS (hours and hours by POTS
modem), endless reboots, installation of MS applications and then of course
the upgrades, more hours and more reboots. GAWD!

When it is all installed, updated drivers to be installed & upgraded and
setup (perhaps 6 hours), the installation has a fixed life determined by
use. I have determined that some of the problems can be traced to the
fragile DOS/Windows filesystem but the entire system design is immature and
subject to failure.

Average life of the W98 installation is 8 months but can be extended to as
much as a year with careful system administration.

Don't even get me started on the litany of errors associated with Internet
Explorer and Outlook Express - I can't count how often hundreds of megabytes
of messages disappear never to be found again - backup is encouraged for
Linux users but is totally necessary for Windows users.

>Here is my comparison
>Installing Windoz: 2 hours + job. Video card is not working right (ATI All
in
>wonder 128), SCSI scanner (UMAX) is not working right either. Right now.
Windoz
>hang right after boot up (sometime). Gee, it's only been about a week after
the
>FRESH installation. Slow... Poor performance comparing to Linux. If you
really
>want to know the detail spec of my machine you can find them here. I really
>don't even want to bother with M$ Windoz anymore....
>http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~chu/hardware.html


I checked out your website especially those parts relating to Linux - very
nice.

>Installing Linux: 50-60 minutes job (maybe less). USABLE OS after the fresh
>installation. I did a full installation. GIMP, Netscape, and a lot of
goodies.
>I don't think you can telnet and ftp to your Windoz 95, 98 0r 98 SE box
right
>after installation without adding software (they cost you extra money too).
It
>provides much better security too. Oh, video card and scanner work
beautifully.
>Unlike some slicker product.


Agreed. I regularly burn custom CDs under Linux with an almost 100% success
rate whereas I have stopped trying to burn under W98 cause I just don't need
anymore coasters.

>I don't think I am that good at Linux and I keep reading NG, doc and all
that.
>I also heard people saying "I don't like Linux because it's nothing like
>Windoz!" For god sake, it is not suppose to be like Windoz... And thanks
god it
>is not. I am a very lucky person because I don't need to use Windoz at all.
I
>use Linux and SGI at work, Solaris at school, and Linux at home.


I run W98 for games, casual browsing and mail/news but all my serious work
is done in Linux. I have lost too many hours of work when Windows
freezes/locks/blows-a-gasket that it just isn't worth the aggravation. Even
as it is now, I still lose whatever is on my desktop; notes, email in
progress, web addresses etc.

>You might ask, "Why did you install Windoz?" My answer is, " I am a CIS
major
>student, I think it's still a good idea to know it although it is a very
bad
>product. Besides, I have four HDs... I can waste one on Windoz." But, I
don't
>really use it at all. I did not even bother to install MS Office.


I run Linux, W98, Mac OS, SUN OS at home; I prefer Linux!

>It's just my ignorant opinion.


Pretty good informed opinion.

Just one final thought; If a person is trying to install Linux for the first
time they should carefully consider what they are doing. It is even easier
to destroy a residing Windows installation during a Windows upgrade "95-98"
(have done dozens so I know). If a new user tries to install Linux without
reading and understanding the basics of what they are doing, Caveat Emptor!

The Linux installation process is not for everybody. My 10 year old daughter
can do it but her mother can't (her mother can't install W98 either).

Perhaps people would be more satisfied with their computers if they came
with Linux, X windows, KDE and KDE Office pre-installed instead of Windows.


Just one guy's opinion.

Brian



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Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.security,comp.security.firewalls
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:18:31 GMT

On Wed, 5 Jul 2000, Thierry wrote:

>Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 18:07:08 +0200
>From: Thierry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.networking, comp.os.linux.security,
>    comp.os.linux.setup, comp.security.firewalls
>Subject: IPCHAINS sample script for 3 NICS
>
>Can someone point me to an ipchains firewall script that supports for 3 NICs
>(1 for Internet, 1 for LAN and 1 for DMZ) ?

I've got something close, not exact.  Take a look at my site,
www.packetfilter.dynip.com, build yourself a script and then take a look at
the port redir/forwarding link.  On that page I give a brief example of a
tri-homed firewall, allowing incoming HTTP requests to a web server on the DMZ
network.  The LAN and DMZ are using 192.168.1.0 and 192.168.2.0

Hope this helps,
Chad


>
>Thanks,
>Thierry.
>
>--
>SENCIS - http://www.sencis.com
>remove XX from my email address
>
>
>

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From: "Eric Longman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Mouse works during install, not after
Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 22:27:10 -0400

I've encountered a weird problem while installing RedHat 6.2:

During installation, Linux will properly detect my mouse, and it works fine
for the graphical installation.  BUT, after the installation is complete and
I boot into X, the mouse doesn't work.  I'm running a generic 2-button
serial mouse.  What might cause Linux to detect it OK for install, but not
configure it properly for the installed system???

Any comments appreciated...

Regards,
Eric Longman





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From: Randy Mullican <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Telnet not starting on RH 6.2
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 02:30:03 GMT

Fred Nastos wrote:
> 
> 
> C.J. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well, I'm stumped (not that it is all that hard) on this one.  It loks 
like 
> > the few things I could think of to check/try you already did.
> 
> >>I have this line in other box and it is working ok. Did I miss 
something
> >>doing a custom install.
> 
> Um. Do you have telnet? The last RH6.2 installation I saw didn't 
install
> (maybe didn't even come with) telnet or an ftp program. I had to 
download
> telnet and ftp. You can use gnorpm and the "web find" command to 
do that.
> 
Thank you for your help. I gave up and did a re-install and it worked. I 
would still like to know what was wrong, but I guess I missed 
something.


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From: Michael Nadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: newbie question
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:40:39 -0700

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sylvain hutchison wrote:

> Hi, I've got a very simple question, but might be simple in practice, I
> want to change the name of my computer, cuz the guy that installed linux
>
> for me entered the wrong name, so the IT guy asked me to change the name
>
> of my computer, how do I do that without re-installing linux all over
> again??
>
> Thanks,
> Sly.

Start by looking at "man hostname", which should point you at what you
want.

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From: Bone head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse control under Xfree 4.0 vs 3.3.5
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 12:43:43 +1000


Am surprised you are having any problems with mouse speed etc. on Xfree.

I have not noticed any difference at all with mouse motion between
Windoze and Xfree.

Have you configured Xfree for the correct mouse type ???????

Curious one!



Jason Bond wrote:
> 
> I was wondering if mouse control has changed from 3.3.5 to 4.0.
> Basically, I really don't like the way 3.3.5 allowed for mouse
> momement control.  The threshold and acceleration options
> make mouse control "jumpy", not smooth as is under windows.  Believe
> it or not, this very simple thing is one of the significant barriers
> that keeps me booting to windows frequently (which has a MUCH better
> and smoother method of controlling the mouse).  I've tried virtually all
> combinations of threshold and acceleration and have found none
> acceptable (or comparable to windows mouse control).  Please tell me it
> has been improved for 4.0, please!

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From: Michael Nadler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to reset root password (slackware)
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 19:47:25 -0700

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion.  I had tried this last night, but no luck.
> I still got the login prompt, which would still not prompt for a
> password.
>
> The best I got was doing:
> Linux init=/bin/sh
> which got me to a bourne shell prompt without needing a login.
> However, for some strange reason, my system didn't
> have /usr/bin/passwd, so I threw up my hands in frustration and am
> reinstalling (my install reported a seemingly innocuous error on disk
> 12, so there is a very small chance that this small error is screwing
> things up).
>

A possibility here -- does your /etc/fstab have /usr in a separate
filesystem?  It could be that /usr isn't automatically mounted in
single-user mode.  [This is the case in many Unixes, such as Solaris and
HP/UX]  If /usr isn't mounted, you can manually cause /usr to be mounted,
then run the passwd command.

>
> Thank you very much for the suggestion, however.
>
> Tim
>
> In article <3962aaa4$0$8309$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.) wrote:
> > Try this... and I'd love to hear if it works:
> >
> > At lilo prompt, add "single" after your choice to boot linux.  ie: if
> you type
> > linux, you would use:
> >
> > linux single
> >
> > Change root's password.
> >   passwd root
> >
> > reboot
> >
> > done
> >
> > In article <8ju5kq$b9c$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Hey everyone,
> > >
> > >I just installed Slackware 7.1, and during the configuration it asked
> > >me if I wanted to set a password on root.  I said yes, but the
> > >installer failed to find /usr/bin/passwd.  Now when I try to log in
> as
> > >root, it doesn't give a password: prompt and just re-displays the
> > >login: prompt a few seconds after I type "root" to log in.
> > >
> > >Any pointers on how I can reset the root password?  I can boot using
> my
> > >boot/root disks, but am unsure if I can mount the hard drive or set
> the
> > >root password on the hard drive installation.
> > >
> > >Thanks for any help.
> > >
> > >Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> > >Before you buy.
> >
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (C.J.)
Subject: Re: Read/Write Access to FAT32 Partitions
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 03:23:41 GMT

In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Luke 
Stodola" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I have user data files in C:\Data\username on a windows FAT32 partition.
>
>How can I give read/write access to those files even when not "root"?

>From your question, I'm assuming it already mounts ok, but is ro for non-root, 
right?  If not let me know.  Since you didn't say, I'm also assuming that you 
have an IDE drive and your Win9x partition is the first one on the drive.

Edit /etc/fstab and change the line for your FAT32 partition.  It _probably_ 
looks pretty much like this:  (if your mount point isn't /mnt/fat-c, pretend 
that my examples say something different. :)
/dev/hda1         /mnt/fat-c       vfat    defaults        0 0

To give a specific user access, you can find that users ID (I'm using 502 
here)  Change the line in /etc/fstab so it reads:
/dev/hda1         /mnt/fat-c       vfat    defaults,uid=502        0 0

To give a specific group rw access, (others get ro) find that group's ID (I'll 
use a GID of 501 in the example)  Change the line in /etc/fstab so it reads:
/dev/hda1         /mnt/fat-c       vfat    defaults,gid=501,umask=2     0 0

To give EVERYONE rw access, change the line so it reads:
/dev/hda1         /mnt/fat-c       vfat    defaults,umask=0     0 0



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Subject: Can I get some modem help?
From: Kelli Halliburton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 20:23:45 -0700

System: Gateway 2000 P5-120 (Pentium 120MHz)
RAM: 32MB
HD: 696MB
CD-ROM: 8x, bootable
Distro: Storm Linux, Rain Release (modified Debian) from cover
of this month's Linux magazine
Ports: Video, Serial (2: 1 9-pin marked "A", 1 25-pin
marked "B"), Parallel, PS/2 Keyboard, PS/2 Mouse Peripherals:
VGA monochrome monitor, 101-key keyboard, serial mouse hooked to
serial port A, USRobotics external 28.8 modem hooked to serial
port B
Problem: Modem does not respond correctly to queries at any
speed or init delay settings through Kppp.

Steps taken already: Made sure that device is set to /dev/ttyS1
and have tried all various handshake methods. Have tried all
available serial speeds. Have tried many many different pre-init
and post-init delay settings. Have changed Kppp permissions as
directed in the online documentation.

Steps to be taken in near future: replace serial mouse with PS/2
mouse, hook modem to serial port A, and reinstall Linux. If that
doesn't work, I'll have to come back to this newsgroup and see
if anyone can help me. Now, if I could just find that 9-to-25-
pin serial cable...

Steps to be taken in far future: installation of 14.4 internal
ISA modem as /dev/ttyS2 (only if no one can find any other way
to help me).

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.
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From: "Kim, Yong-Woon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Q] superblock corrupt
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:50:40 +0900

Hi!

I got the following message.

When I used 2.3.99-pre5, /dev/sda1 worked well as the root file system.
But when I installed 2.4.0-test1/2 and rebooted my system, I got the same
error message. The booting procedure was:

-- BEGIN --
  <cut out>
  mounting proc filesystem
  hwclock
  activating swap partitions
  setting hostname blar blar
  checking root filesystem
  fsck.ext2(null)
  The superblock could not be read or does not describe
.........................
-- END --

Then I rebooted the system with a rescue filesystem, executed the following
command line, and got that error message.

How can I repair the problem?

"mkfs -t ext2 -l bad-blocks /dev/sda1" is enough after backup?

======================================
# e2fsck -b 8190 /dev/sda1
e2fsck 1.15, 18-Jul-1999 for EXT2 FS 0.5b, 95/08/09
e2fsck: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda1

The superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext2
filesystem.  If the device is valid and it really contains an ext2
filesystem (and not swap or ufs or something else), then the superblock
is corrupt, and you might try running e2fsck with an alternate superblock:
    e2fsck -b 8193 <device>

================================

Thanks a lot in advance!

Best regards,
KIM, Yong-Woon


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From: "Adam H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: CD Writing software
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:50:31 +1000

Thanks for your help. That's what I'm looking for.

Adam

E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Try to get cdrecord to work first with your CD-Writer.
> Most of the GUI based program use cdrecord as its base.
>
> "Adam H." wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone know of some good CD Writing software for linux?
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Adam
>



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From: "Adam H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Disconnecting Users on demand
Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:51:56 +1000

Hi,

I've got redhat 6.2 as a SAMBA server (amongst other things). I want to be
able to drop
all connections automatically (except one) from the server at a particular
time. (Say 2am
in the morning).

Is this possible?

TIA

Adam



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