Linux-Setup Digest #117, Volume #19               Sun, 9 Jul 00 06:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: 3 primary partitions, 1 ext w/ swap and ext2 with linux, system  (Valentin 
Guillen)
  My Win95 defrag hell. (Mongolian Horde)
  Re: Mouse works during install, not after (Clive DaSilva)
  Home network setup (Fred Nastos)
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Alex)
  Re: Cable Modem and IP Masquerade Setup (Raymond)
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. ("Brian")
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. (Alex)
  Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus. ("Brian")
  Re: Home network setup (jerry)
  Re: My Win95 defrag hell. (David Efflandt)
  Re: fetchmail problems (A Guy Called Tyketto)
  Re: recompiling kernal (A Guy Called Tyketto)
  Re: Starting from scratch on Alpha... (Alex Collins)
  Re: How to boot from the *second* hard disk? (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
  Pb rebuild SRC.RPM : cannot create //root/rpm/SOURCES ("C�dric Chausson")

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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3 primary partitions, 1 ext w/ swap and ext2 with linux, system 
Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 22:11:58 -0600

No reason to use it at all if you don't wish.  You can always boot with
loadlin or the boot diskette.  For security purposes you might not want
to advertise the existence of the linux. Or just be able to boot from
diskette.  Or even change the location of the map and image files to
where it isn't /boot anymore.  As long as you know where your partitions
are and which boots which, you need not even have reference to linux at
all. 

You won't take a performance hit depending upon which boot method. 
Rather, you wil take a speed of bootup hit when booting off a floppy. 
Thus, a boot manager or loadlin bootup will get you up and running
quicker.  

I have system commander 3.x.  it works just fine, but I don't feel
compelled to use it for the colored icons at boot up anymore.  I still
mutiboot some boxes, but I use drive caddies a lot now that drives are
so cheap.  

Regards,
Valentin

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From: Mongolian Horde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: My Win95 defrag hell.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 16:21:23 +1000

I am trying to create a 100mb partition with fips from Win95 dos so
that I can install tiny Linux whilst retaining win95 on the system
untill I am comfortable with the new os.  My HD is 500 MB and the
computer is a dell p100 laptop.

The problem is, when I run defrag, windows is apparently unwilling to
move some types of data, so the maximum partition size that fips will
let me create is some 50 mb.  Can anyone tell me how I deal with this,
so that I can make a 100mb partition without losing any data.

Cheers

Kieren

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From: Clive DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Mouse works during install, not after
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 00:25:09 -0400

Eric

X's mouse driver sometimes clashes with the gpm driver (general
purpose mouse).. from console or in an xterm window..as root,,type
killall gpm and see if the mouse works while u are running X windows




"Eric Longman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>I've encountered a weird problem while installing RedHat 6.2:
>
>During installation, Linux will properly detect my mouse, and it works fine
>for the graphical installation.  BUT, after the installation is complete and
>I boot into X, the mouse doesn't work.  I'm running a generic 2-button
>serial mouse.  What might cause Linux to detect it OK for install, but not
>configure it properly for the installed system???
>
>Any comments appreciated...
>
>Regards,
>Eric Longman
>
>
>


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From: Fred Nastos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Home network setup
Date: 9 Jul 2000 05:14:24 GMT

Hi, I was just looking for some advice. I currently own a notebook
that runs RH6.1 (only) wonderfully, and is network capable (school
network). Soon, I will be buying a new computer for home and my key
priority is that I want to be able to setup a tiny network so I can
easily transfer files, and get my notebook online at home. The problem
is that I have to share the comp with my brother who insists that
Windows98, or NT, or Win2000 is also installed. I'd like to have linux
on it also though.  I'm assuming that we will end up buying a comp
with the MS operating system allready installed. Are any of the MS
operating systems real linux unfriendly. By that I mean will I have
to wipe the disk clean to install linux first and then MS?  Will I be
able to setup a network connection between my notebook and the PC if
it's running the MS operating system? Do I have to learn SAMBA (or
something like that)? And no, moving out isn't an option :)

If it matters, I have a netgear hub, that I've never used before (won
at an event). I assume it will be compatible with the linksys card on
my notebook eventhough the netgear box only mentions MS platforms.

I also have an old 486 DX33, 4MB RAM running Win3.1, is it possible
to get that on the network too, maybe if I run some light version of
linux?

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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 02:03:49 -0400

Brian wrote:

>
>
> Do what I do, go and buy a copy of Windows from your local friendly pirate,
> I paid about $20 for W98.
>

I am not sure if Windoz 98 worth that much.... I would say $20 bucks for that
crap is too much...

Best regards

Alex.

>
> Best regards,
>
> Brian

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From: Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: Cable Modem and IP Masquerade Setup
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 14:05:51 +0800

No matter what IP you assigned to your network, the ethernet card to
internet should be 0.0.0.0 netmask 0.0.0.0.  It will get an IP from
the ISP's server.
The DNS must point to your ISP's DNS servers then your local DNS
server.

Hope this helpful.


On Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:04:41 -0500, "Evan Lavidor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>I've been reading through the newsgroups and have read the ipmasq howto.
>Here's my situation.  Any help is greatly appreciated.
>
>I am using RedHat 6.0 (Hedwig), Kernel 2.2.5-22 on an i386.  I've got two
>3com 3c509 NICs in the machine and would like to hook up my cable modem to
>one nic and the other to my private network and run ipmasq so that all
>machines (2 other windows machines) can get out onto the net.
>
>I've assigned all my machines to 10.0.0.x with subnet 255.255.255.0.  I've
>configured eth0 to DHCP and eth1 to 10.0.0.1.  Following the guidelines in
>the ipmasq howto, I've created /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall appropriately (I
>think).
>
>I can ping internal addresses but not external (from either my linux box or
>a windows box).
>
>I've tried assigning the IP to eth0 manually, and I've added the gateway in
>linuxconf under Config|Networking|Routing and Gateways|Defaults, but I still
>can't get out to the net.
>
>So, I realize that my problem is more with DHCP or with TCP/IP in general
>and not with ipmasq.  Once I get my linux box to recognize outside
>addresses, I assume I'll be okay with ipmasq.
>
>So, if anyone has any advice, I'd love to hear it. Thanks for your
>assistance.
>
>Evan
>


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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 06:12:42 GMT

Hey Alex:

Alex wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Brian wrote:
>> Do what I do, go and buy a copy of Windows from your local friendly
pirate,
>> I paid about $20 for W98.


>I am not sure if Windoz 98 worth that much.... I would say $20 bucks for
that
>crap is too much...


Ya, but the pirate has to eat - he is a computer science student at UBC.

Best regards,

Brian



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From: Alex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 03:10:06 -0400

Brian wrote:

>
> Ya, but the pirate has to eat - he is a computer science student at UBC.
>

Sorry, I don't mean that he charges too much...
What I was trying to say was, "Windoz worth less then $20 bucks."

Sincerely.

Alex.

>
> Best regards,
>
> Brian

--
============================================
The Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence
http://www.seti.org/

Registered with the Linux Counter. ID# 175126
http://counter.li.org/index.html




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From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: The Big Dogs and the Tech Shitzus.
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 07:21:11 GMT


Alex wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Brian wrote:
>> Ya, but the pirate has to eat - he is a computer science student at UBC.

>Sorry, I don't mean that he charges too much...
>What I was trying to say was, "Windoz worth less then $20 bucks."


Ah, understood.

8^)

Brian



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From: jerry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Home network setup
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 02:35:17 -0700

USE the old 486 for a dialup gateway.  You will need about 16 meg of ram, but it
will run ok on 8 mb of ram.. you can configure slackware for ipmasq and tie
them all to the hub.. you will need a NIC on each pc.. ne2000 s are cheap and
drivers are already available on W9x and most linux dists... YOu can even get
by without a harddrive if you run a single disk linux such as freesco..
(Freesco.org)..  YOu can run your linux , your brother can have his w9x and ftp
works fine between each.. Ftp will upload and download fine to linux boxen, w95
will ftp download fine from the DOS window.. It aint all this easy, but check
out the net HOWTO, do a few searches on linux networking and have fun.. 
The 486motherboard is much faster than your dialup or even a dsl line., so the
speed is almost of no consequence in this application.  I am using such a system
and I am very happy with it... 
  On Sat,
08 Jul 2000, Fred Nastos wrote: >Hi, I was just looking for some advice. I
currently own a notebook >that runs RH6.1 (only) wonderfully, and is network
capable (school >network). Soon, I will be buying a new computer for home and
my key >priority is that I want to be able to setup a tiny network so I can
>easily transfer files, and get my notebook online at home. The problem >is
that I have to share the comp with my brother who insists that >Windows98, or
NT, or Win2000 is also installed. I'd like to have linux >on it also though. 
I'm assuming that we will end up buying a comp >with the MS operating system
allready installed. Are any of the MS >operating systems real linux unfriendly.
By that I mean will I have >to wipe the disk clean to install linux first and
then MS?  Will I be >able to setup a network connection between my notebook and
the PC if >it's running the MS operating system? Do I have to learn SAMBA (or
>something like that)? And no, moving out isn't an option :) > >If it matters,
I have a netgear hub, that I've never used before (won >at an event). I assume
it will be compatible with the linksys card on >my notebook eventhough the
netgear box only mentions MS platforms. > >I also have an old 486 DX33, 4MB RAM
running Win3.1, is it possible >to get that on the network too, maybe if I run
some light version of >linux?

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: My Win95 defrag hell.
Date: 9 Jul 2000 08:41:09 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Sun, 09 Jul 2000, Mongolian Horde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I am trying to create a 100mb partition with fips from Win95 dos so
>that I can install tiny Linux whilst retaining win95 on the system
>untill I am comfortable with the new os.  My HD is 500 MB and the
>computer is a dell p100 laptop.
>
>The problem is, when I run defrag, windows is apparently unwilling to
>move some types of data, so the maximum partition size that fips will
>let me create is some 50 mb.  Can anyone tell me how I deal with this,
>so that I can make a 100mb partition without losing any data.

I have never used FIPS, but I hear that you need to disable virtual memory
(memory swap) before defragging and then using fips.  This should get rid
of the hidden files in the way.  After you resize the partition you can
re-enable virtual memory.

With only 100MB you will not be able to fully explore Linux.  I used to
think that Linux required 200 MB for a complete install, but it has become
bloated to the point that a recent Mandrake install was over 1 GB.

-- 
David Efflandt  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/  http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/  http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/


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From: A Guy Called Tyketto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: fetchmail problems
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:02:17 GMT

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Alex Fitterling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chiefy wrote:

>>I had a look at my .fetchmailrc. and yours is similar except that my 
>>local delivery addresses are fully stated ie,
>>   is [EMAIL PROTECTED] here etc.....
>>

> Fortunately after a lot of time spending on that problem I fixed it... 
> it was due to a corrupt sendmail config file.... AFAIK fetchmail i
> s trying to
> connect to localhost and tries to send all incoming mail via smtp port...
> So far, so good... I'm having fetchmail to fetch mail... even functionally..

> but now, it seems, that sendmail doesn't send the mail it did get via
> fetchmail to the local users.... what's wrong now ?

> Can anyone send me his sendmail.cf to take a look at ?

        I'm having the same type of problem, but found a way around it,
which leads me to think that it's totally a sendmail problem. Version
I'm using, is sendmail-8.10.2. The only way I can get fetchmail >= 5.4.0
to run properly, is to run sendmail in daemon mode, which I want to
avoid, for use as an open relay. I normally run sendmail as

        /usr/sbin/sendmail -q5m

        On my dist of linux (Slackware 7.1), it's set up to start and
run as:

        /usr/sbin/sendmail -bd -q15m

        -bd runs it as a daemon. without it, I got the error you did.
with it, fetchmail runs. So I'm running it currently as a daemon, to get
mail. If anyone knows a way to get fetchmail to run with sendmail not in
daemon mode, I'm all ears. Fetchmail-friends hasn't helped out with this
at all.

                                                        BL.
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Brad Littlejohn                         | Email:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unix Systems Administrator,             |           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! :)   |   http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto
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From: A Guy Called Tyketto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: recompiling kernal
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:04:05 GMT

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Richard Dunigan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to compile kernal version 2.4.0-test2 (I know its a development
> kernal) and it gives the following error:

>    Standard input}:360: Error no such 386 instruction: 'ldmacsr'
>     Standard input}:366: Error no such 386 instruction: 'movups'
>     Standard input}:367: Error no such 386 instruction: 'movups'
>     Standard input}:368: Error no such 386 instruction: 'divps'
>     Standard input}:378: Error no such 386 instruction: 'ldmxcsr'
> make:***[init/ main.o] Error 1

> Does anyone know what this is, or how I can fix it?

        I believe this has already been addressed on the linux-kernel
mailing list, which you really should be on, if you're using a devel
kernel. Try taking a look at the list, or its archives, for the solution
to this, or try one of the newer source trees. finger @finger.kernel.org
for details.

                                                        BL.
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Brad Littlejohn                         | Email:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unix Systems Administrator,             |           [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web + NewsMaster, BOFH.. Smeghead! :)   |   http://www.wizard.com/~tyketto
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From: Alex Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Starting from scratch on Alpha...
Date: Sun, 9 Jul 2000 10:22:51 +0100

In article <[email protected]>, John Beardmore
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes


Hi There.

>I'm about to inherit an old DEC Alpha box which has spent its corporate
>life running NT4.  I think it's 133MHz.

Sounds like a Multia ? Small ? squareish ? 
>
>I want to put Linux on it to perform the following tasks:
>
>  IP ISDN gateway to ISP, maybe firewall, maybe proxy server, maybe IP 
>  router,

That's fine. should cause no problems. ISDN can be a pain to setup with
Linux, and you will need a late version of Linux. - suggest RedHat 6.X
if you don't already have the card, the BT Speedway works well for me.
>
>  Fax system, maybe offering network fax facilities to 95, 98, NT and 
>  Win2k machines using either a modem or smart ISDN card.

Sendmail can do this for you, but only for text. If you need more, use
efax.
>
>  Print spooler for HP LJ 4M+ PS600 and Epson Stylus Photo EX, offering 
>  print services to 95, 98 NT and Win2k machines.
>
Comes as standard. Use ghost script printing. / Samba.

>  File server to 95, 98, NT and Win2k machines.
>
Samba again.

>
>Am I going to get lucky with any or all of this ?  If so, what is the
>best distribution to use, and where can I get it in the UK ?
>

RedHat - fairly well developed for the Alpha. and comes with everything
that you need.

You can get RedHat from a variety of places. Where are you on this
planet?

http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk has offered me, and many others a very
good service.

I run a Multia / RedHat 5.2 that does everything that you need, except
for the Faxing bit.

Take a look at my website

http://www.par64.com/multia
http://www.par64.com/linux

or visit my machine direct ( evenings and weekends ) 
http://par64.yi.org
-- 
Alex Collins
Alex Collins Electrical Services
www.par64.com     [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Svend Olaf Mikkelsen)
Subject: Re: How to boot from the *second* hard disk?
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 09:30:05 GMT

Paul Hughett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Approach 1:  Configure the BIOS to boot from the SCSI disk, and install
>LILO in the MBR of this disk.  But when I do this, the bios reports
>finding a boot record on the SCSI disk, which then types LI and hangs.

You may have to look at the disk= and bios= options. This is described
in the Lilo readme file.
-- 
Svend Olaf

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From: "C�dric Chausson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Pb rebuild SRC.RPM : cannot create //root/rpm/SOURCES
Date: Sun, 09 Jul 2000 12:03:08 +0100

Hello all,

I want to rebuild a source RPM so I launch the following command as root :

 rpm --rebuild rpmfind*src.rpm

Then I get the following messages : 

Installing rpmfind-1.5-1.src.rpm cannot create //root/rpm/SOURCES

And the system returns me to the command line. I have rpm and rpm-devel
3.0-8 installed on my machine. *

Anyone has an idea what is wrong ? thanks in advance.


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