Linux-Setup Digest #131, Volume #19              Tue, 11 Jul 00 01:13:08 EDT

Contents:
  Re: Help please on fdisk ("RS")
  Re: KDE vs Gnome (E J)
  Re: 3com3c509 woes ("Peter C. Lee")
  LS-120 initialization problems ("Sean O'Brien")
  Re: Flickering Screen ("Key")
  Help about Apache and php3 . ("Harry Xia")
  3c905 network card NOT a 3c905c ("Ira M. Wechsler")
  Changing Resolution ("Thanhvu Nguyen")
  Re: PPPD problem (dies waiting for PPPD to come up) (The Oak)
  Re: Four primary partitions (3 FAT32, 1 ext2fs) can't install RH62  (Steve Versteeg)
  Re: Using an existing DSL modem with Linux (Dan)
  Re: Using an existing DSL modem with Linux (Dan)
  Re: 3com 3c509b driver (Michael Meissner)
  Re: LS-120 initialization problems ("Gene Heskett")
  Re: Starting programs at boot... ("Andrew E. Schulman")
  Re: Stupid question?? VFAT partitions ("Andrew E. Schulman")
  Kernel hates ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: Four primary partitions (3 FAT32, 1 ext2fs) can't install RH62 without swap 
partition? ("JM")

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From: "RS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help please on fdisk
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:15:25 GMT

Thank you both for your help. I really do appreciate it :)
"RS" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:VZaa5.251$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi i am asking for help to fdisk my quantum 4.0 GB HDD to get linux red
hat
> 6.2 uninstalled. I have sold the HDD to someone who wants to put win98 on
> it.
> I know I don't sound very intelligent, so any help would be greatly
> appreciated. Thanks in advance! :)
>
>



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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: KDE vs Gnome
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:23:27 -0700

Get both if you have the room.  I like KDE for non-root and Gnome for root
environments.  If you install both, you can run KDE applications under Gnome
and Gnome applications under KDE.  Both are improving a lot, you can now
download KDE2 and Helix-Gnome.

Richard Arts wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am about to install RedHat Linux 6.2. However I can choose between KDE and
> Gnome and I don't know which one to install. Can anybody point out the
> differences between the two? What are the strong and weak points of the two
> environments?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Richard Arts


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From: "Peter C. Lee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com3c509 woes
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 21:22:34 -0400

I installed Redhat 6.2 over FTP using 3com509 card. The installation was
fined, but the network did not worked (the 3c509 modules was not loaded)
after reboot. I did /sbin/modprobe 3c509 io=0x300, irq=10, it recognize the
card OK.

I added this line in /etc/conf.modules, and the 3c509 module was loaded when
reboot.
alias eth0 3c509

I've installed RH5.0 before. Both times I used the FTP method. The over line
was automatically added in /etc/modules, but it is missing in RH6.2
installation.

I hope this will help,
Peter

"DeAnn Iwan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
>   I have a 3com509 card that works fine under RH 5.0, but that is not
> recognized by Suse 6.1, Suse 6.4 or Debian 2.1.  These new
> distributions require putting in the io and irq (which I can get from
> the RH re-install as 0x300 and 10)....but the modules still won't
> load!  I am very FRUSTRATED!    Does anyone have a clue as to what
> is going on that one distribution (RH 5.0) will recognize the card
> just fine, but the others cannot find it?



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From: "Sean O'Brien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: LS-120 initialization problems
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:33:56 -0700

We are running Red Hat 6.1 with the default LS-120 driver.  When we plug in
the LS-120, it does not recognize the device as an LS-120 but either as an
Unknown ATAPI (type 31) or (type 17) or (type 16).

Other symptoms: After not recognizing the LS-120, subsequent reboots causes
the BIOS to no longer recognize the drive.  1 in 50 times the drive is
successfully recognized and really pisses me off.

Are there different LS-120 drivers available?
Any advice on how to continue to debug???

BTW drive and cables work properly under Win NT (sorry...)

Email response to delete (123456NOSPAM123456) from email address

sean_obrien(123456NOSPAM123456)@ziatech.com



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From: "Key" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Flickering Screen
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:11:12 +0800

It is RH6.0. The display keeps on blinking that makes me unable to run
Xconfigurator or any other command.

All services/daemons start OK until the login screen appears. It begins to
blink and I can do nothing but press the ctrl-alt-del to stop it. The
flickering stops immediately and the system shutdown in a normal manner.

The thing I need to know is how to stop loading X. Is there a hot key to
stop loading X?

Key
+++

Bit Twister wrote in message ...
>Kinda helps if you would indicate the Distro/release. It can make
>a differences.
>
>Try
> Xconfigurator
> XF86Setup
>
>
>On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 19:04:18 +0800, Key <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>Hi,
>>I have another newbie problem on my Linux box. The screen continues
>>flickering and cannot start X. Problem is on the X server since I have
>>picked up a wrong setting on the screen resolution/freq.
>
>
>--
>The warranty and liability expired as you read the message.
>If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
>Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
>Do a,  man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.



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From: "Harry Xia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Help about Apache and php3 .
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 10:00:49 +0800

Hello,
  I installed Apache-1.3.4 and Php-3.0.11 , and activate the php3
module in Apache . When I visited .php3 file , I saw a line in my
browser : " Fatal error : Failed opening required '/usr/local/apache/
php/prepend.php3' ,in /usr/local/htdocs/hello.php3 on line 0 .

  Apache and Php are installed successfully .  I can't find the file
prepend.php3 in /usr/local/apache/php/ directory . Who can help
me resolve it ?

Thanks in advance

Harry





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From: "Ira M. Wechsler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 3c905 network card NOT a 3c905c
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:02:20 -0400
Reply-To: "Ira M. Wechsler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

  I find  that many here say that this flavor of the network
card can run under Linux. But I have Redhat 6.2 ands see
no driver for this card listed in the Linxconf area or
documentation. So how is one supposed to get it to work.
I do have the address and irq from its successful load in
the os/2 operating system.  Please help me solve this puzzle.
Thanks.



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From: "Thanhvu Nguyen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Changing Resolution
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 22:59:58 -0400

How do I change the monitor 's resolution in REdhat 6.2 (running KDE) ?

thanks






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From: The Oak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.os.linux.dial-up,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: PPPD problem (dies waiting for PPPD to come up)
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:08:09 -0400

Might be DNS problem. In DrakConf, go to "Network Configuration", then on
"Client tasks" tab, click on "Name server specification (DNS)". Put the DNS
#'s given to you by your ISP, and make sure "DNS required for normal
operation" checkbox is checked. Also make sure that "Routing and gateways"
button does not have a default set up. Then restart network daemon with
/etc/rc.d/init.d/network restart.

Hope this helps.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I recently upgraded to Mandrake 7.1, and ran into a problem with PPPD.  I
> am using a Lucent LT "Winmodem".  I know that its not the modem, because
> I have had working  it before.  Here is a brief history and my problem:
>
> ---History---
>
>         When I first started using Linux (a few months ago) I started with
> Mandrake 7.0.  I had gotten the modem to dial, connect, and  handshake,
> but it dies after that.  I went to a local users group meeting (NMLUG)
> and was helped to get it to work.  I could then use KPPP to connect and
> surf without problems.  Because of other problems I had to reinstall, and
> the same problem came up.  I have not been able to get ahold of the
> person who helped me at NMLUG, but got everything working (sort of)
> following the directions at http://axion.physics.ubc.ca/ppp-linux.html.
> The connecting was a bit of a pain, and it only worked about 1/3 of the
> time.  I now upgraded to Mandrake 7.1, and the problem showed up again.
> I would rather not go the manual route again if I can avoid it.
>
> ---Problem---
>
> KPPP  --  When I use KPPP, it dials, connects, and does the handshake.
> It then says it is logging onto the network, but dies saying that it
> "timed out waiting for the PPPD to come up".  I tried lengthening the
> timeout setting to longer, no help.  I have tried PAP, and CHAP (I
> beleive that my ISP uses CHAP).  I have checked the /etc/ppp/options
> file, and tried it empty, with and without "lock", with and without
> "noauth", etc.  I also checked my pap and chap secret files along with
> the resolv.conf file.  All appear to be correct.
>
> KWvDial  --  When using KWvDial, the modem dials, connects, does the
> handshake, and then starts PPPD.  At this point the phone connection
> dies, but KWvDial thinks it is still connected.  The log file just shows
> PPPD starting and nothing else.
>
> Minicom  --  I can dial, connect, and do handshake.  I am asked for my
> logon and password, and can give them without problems.  My ISP sends a
> greeting with an IP address, but I can't surf.
>
> I would like to connect with KPPP or Wvdial (or the like).  I know it can
> work (it did before), but I don't know enough to get it working.  I have
> seen a lot of other postings with this (or a similar) problem, but can't
> find a answer that works.  Any help would be great!
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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From: Steve Versteeg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Four primary partitions (3 FAT32, 1 ext2fs) can't install RH62 
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:27:27 -0400

> 
> Isn't there a 'damn the torpedoes' override for disk druid? I'm willing to
> experiment with this last partitionable space, but I don't want to risk my
> critical fat32 partitions by using fdisk (the linux one). Besides, the new
> lilo changes a lot of the rules about what a /boot can be.
> 
I'd try using fdisk.  It's very straight forward, and a lot better
than disk druid.  In Redhat 6.2, just check the "use fdisk" box at
the installation option screen.  When you get to the fdisk screen,
type "m" for help, that will list your options.  Type "p" to list
you partition table as it currently stands.  Don't touch your
FAT partitions, delete whatever partitions you've stuffed up with
disk druid and start again.  You don't need to worry about stuffing up
your
FAT partitions.  If you do mess something up, just quit without saving.

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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using an existing DSL modem with Linux
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:30:08 GMT

Thank you for the info.  Hopefully there will be drivers soon.  But in the 
meantime I will follow your advice and use my DSL off of Windows.

desire_armed wrote:
> 
> 
> Dan I'm in a similar position to you - I am a newbie to linux & running
> mandrake 7.0 w/ win 98, and have a speedstream 3060 ( infospeed using
> winPoEt, from bell atlantic ). I've researched this, and it seems that 
there
> are no drivers written by linux coders / hackers, and the company, 
efficient
> networks, has yet to produce drivers for linux for the 3060. Sorry about
> this, there should be some drivers out by the end of the summer ( 
definitely
> by next year ).
> 
> What I do is download what I need to using the 3060 in windows, then 
access
> the files off of my c drive or put the files onto a cd. As far as 
browsing
> the web / e-mail, I have a 56k modem that is compatible w/ Linux that I 
use
> to do those things in linux.
> 
> By the way, in case you're interested, there are PPPoE adapters that can 
run
> in linux, I think RasPPPoe is one, but there are no drivers for that
> particular router ( modem ). In article 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I have a SpeedStream 3060 PPP modem and I would like to use it with
> > Linux-Mandrake 7.0.  I am a newbie to Linux, so please help me.
> >
> > --
> > Posted via CNET Help.com
> > http://www.help.com/
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.


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http://www.help.com/

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From: Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Using an existing DSL modem with Linux
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 03:30:09 GMT

Thank you for the reply.  That web address you gave me is very informative. 
Thanks again.

Hal Burgiss wrote:
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 17:30:08 GMT, Dan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >I have a SpeedStream 3060 PPP modem and I would like to use it with
> >Linux-Mandrake 7.0.  I am a newbie to Linux, so please help me.
> That modem requires drivers. There are no Linux drivers. You will need
> an ethernet modem for DSL and Linux.
> 
>  http://feenix.eyep.net/dsl/linux_dsl.html
> 
> -- 
> Hal B
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> --


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http://www.help.com/

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Subject: Re: 3com 3c509b driver
From: Michael Meissner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 10 Jul 2000 23:32:24 -0400

"Hector Mendoza Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Does linux support this network card?  I installed Mandrake 7.0
> distribution, and my eth0 interface doesn't come up.

I used a 3c509 a few years ago, and it worked then.  IIRC, the standard advice
on the 3c509b was to go into DOS and disable the PNP mode of the device.  Note,
I've since upgraded to 3c905's and intel etherexpress pro cards, so I can't say
if it still works.

-- 
Michael Meissner, Red Hat, Inc.
PMB 198, 174 Littleton Road #3, Westford, Massachusetts 01886, USA
Work:     [EMAIL PROTECTED]           phone: +1 978-486-9304
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Date: 10 Jul 2000 23:18:4 -0500
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LS-120 initialization problems
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware

Unrot13 this;
Reply to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Gene Heskett sends Greetings to Sean O'Brien;

 SO> We are running Red Hat 6.1 with the default LS-120 driver.  When we plug
 SO> in the LS-120, it does not recognize the device as an LS-120 but either
 SO> as an Unknown ATAPI (type 31) or (type 17) or (type 16).

 SO> Other symptoms: After not recognizing the LS-120, subsequent reboots
 SO> causes the BIOS to no longer recognize the drive.  1 in 50 times the
 SO> drive is successfully recognized and really pisses me off.

 SO> Are there different LS-120 drivers available?
 SO> Any advice on how to continue to debug???

 SO> BTW drive and cables work properly under Win NT (sorry...)

 SO> Email response to delete (123456NOSPAM123456) from email address

 SO> sean_obrien(123456NOSPAM123456)@ziatech.com

No.  Ask here, get answers here so that all might learn.

It rather sounds as if you don't have something quite right in your
kernel, or possibly in fstab.  I'd check the kernel first.  I have
support for other atapi/ide devices turned on, and no matching entries
in fstab.  If I am watching during the boot, the drive somewhat confuses
the bus scanners if there is no disk in it because it reports its size
twice, once as a 120 meg floppy, and once as a 1.44 meg floppy.  Because
that leaves both possibilities open, I'd *never* have a disk in it at
boot time or it will make the choice for you.  I have some disks I made
an ext2 filesystem on, and some original messydos, any of them mounts
properly to 'mount -t filesystem /dev/hdd /mnt/ls120', and this includes
720k and 1.44 meg floppies.

Check your kernel config, and rebuild if required.  Better yet, get the
replacement kernel from RH for 6.1, there has been a security update,
probably to 2.2.16-3.  An 'rpm -uvH will install it, but will NOT edit
/etc/lilo.conf, nor run lilo to complete the install.  Do that and
reboot, it might work ok then without a major rebuild.  There are other
security updates for 6.1, most notable being a newer 'bind', do not fail
to install that.  The old (included with 6.1) one is a script kiddie
magnet they can find from halfway around the planet.

Cheers, Gene
-- 
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        email gene underscore heskett at iolinc dot net
ISP's please take note: My spam control policy is explicit!
#Any Class C address# involved in spamming me is added to my killfile
never to be seen again.  Message will be summarily deleted without dl.
This messages reply content, but not any previously quoted material, is
� 2000 by Gene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Starting programs at boot...
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:19:56 -0400

> I am starting programs up at boot under the /etc/rc.d/rc.local file, but
> the question that I have is, can I start up a program from there as a
> different user (not root) and if so what do I need to add, is there some
> kind of -u option or something??? below is the last 3 lines of the
> rc.local file, thanks...
> 
> # Start Perforce
> # Added by Frank 3/9/00
> /usr/local/sbin/p4d -r /home/perforce &

I think you want

su user /usr/local/sbin/p4d -r /home/perforce &

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From: "Andrew E. Schulman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Stupid question?? VFAT partitions
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 00:26:48 -0400

> Sigh.  It sure would be nice to have all my mail in one place.  I guess it is
> not to be.

For this reason I don't read any mail in Linux.  I do it all in Windows.

Why Netscape has to store things differently in Linux than in Windows, I
can't imagine.  There's the CR-LF conversion problem, but surely that
could be surmounted.

There must be some good cross-platform mail clients which can share
files between OSs, but I don't know what they are.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Kernel hates ATAPI/IDE CD-ROM
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 23:53:11 -0500

This is weird:  I installed Red Hat 6.2 from a CD.  The installation
kernel detects hdc as the atapi cdrom, even gets the model name correct
(Sony DDU220E or something like that-- it's a dvd-rom).  But on bootup,
when the kernel's looking at the drives, it says "hdc: QAQAQAQAQA[...]
ATAPI UNKNOWN (type 17)".  When kudzu later comes up, it says that the
cd-rom has been removed from the system (i looked at kudzu's config
file, and it has the correct model and setup for the cd-rom -- i guess
it was written during installation, after the installation kernel
correctly detected everything.  Interestingly enough, kudzu during the
boot writes a second entry with hdc identified as QAQAQAQA... I tried
erasing it, but it jsut gets written back.)  Then when i try to mount
the cd-rom, i get an error that it's not ready, and the mount fails.

I've done everything in the how-to, played with fstab, specified
hdc=cdrom at LILO, softlinked stuff back and forth, reinstalled a few
times, etc.  Only thing I haven't done is recompile the kernel.  But--
the installation kernel detected it fine!  Can anyone help?!  Thanks!


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From: "JM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Four primary partitions (3 FAT32, 1 ext2fs) can't install RH62 without 
swap partition?
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 01:03:45 -0400

I do not have a swap partition and Redhat installed just fine and runs
great.


"mnip" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:zkta5.1302$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> I have a 30gb hd with three primary fat partitions, and I want to install
> RH62. I had gotten it working with a boot disk by making the tail-end an
> extended partition with a swap and a "/"-mounted partition. I wanted to
use
> the new LILO and a single primary partition to make it bootable, no swap
> partition.
>
> The RH62 installer won't give me a 'next' option when I try to set the
mount
> point of the . The Disk is at 100% allocation, but I'm not asking it to
> create any partitions, just mount the fourth 2gb primary as a 2gb "/"
>
> RH62 won't 'let' me mount the "/" partition at that high location. Even
> though the later-installed lilo can handle it, I wants a /boot below 1024,
> as is the custom.
>
> Is a swap partition required? What happens (swapfile creation,
performance)
> if I don't mount a swap partition in disk druid?
>
> Do I have to make it 99% full instead of 100%, could that be the problem?
>
> Isn't there a 'damn the torpedoes' override for disk druid? I'm willing to
> experiment with this last partitionable space, but I don't want to risk my
> critical fat32 partitions by using fdisk (the linux one). Besides, the new
> lilo changes a lot of the rules about what a /boot can be.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>



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