Linux-Setup Digest #161, Volume #19 Sat, 15 Jul 00 00:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: How to boot from CD-ROM? (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Re: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory (kernel compile error) (John Hovell)
Video Card compatibility with RedHat (version 6.1) ("T.L.")
Re: I810 chipset and LInux (Michael Sullivan)
Re: How to boot from CD-ROM? (E J)
Re: How to boot from CD-ROM? (E J)
Re: How to boot from CD-ROM? (E J)
Re: How to boot from CD-ROM? (E J)
Re: How to boot from CD-ROM? (E J)
Re: Difference between vfat and msdos? (Victor Zhang)
Re: Linux on Compaq Presario 1600XL141 (X Problem) (Valentin Guillen)
modem problems with linux ("jim, jan & jason salotti")
Monitorless setup ("Brooks Hagenow")
Re: AMD linux Laptop ("Joseph L. Suttie III")
Re: apache ??:tools to analyze traffic to a web server (Israel Alvarez - is at isaka
dot net)
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Subject: Re: How to boot from CD-ROM?
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Prasanth A. Kumar)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:14:02 GMT
"PasirRis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> OS: Redhat 6.0
> Linux partition: /dev/hda7
>
> During the installation process, I chose to create a boot disk rather than
> (putting the kernel?) to the harddisk.
>
> My CD-ROM is bootable. I thought I can boot (in fact, that have the 'boot:"
> command line when startup) from the CD-ROM and then load from my harddisk
> partition. It seems not the case. But is it possible to boot from CD-ROM,
> rather than from the floppy?
To boot from the cdrom, you need to change the boot device in you
bios. But this is only of use during the installation, not during
normal use (unless you have a cd burner.)
>
> what's the command to create one more boot disk (1.44m)?
> thanks.
In Red Hat Linux, it is 'mkbootdisk'.
--
Prasanth Kumar
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: John Hovell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory (kernel compile error)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:24:26 GMT
OK --
Solved the problem.
These are the two links you have to make:
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/asm /usr/include/asm
ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/linux
Cheers,
John
PS... the kernel is compiling as I speak (write).
Clyde Spencer wrote:
> Jes�s M. NAVARRO wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
> <snip>
> >Yep, I know this: RH guys have forgotten two symlinks; the first one is
> >this you are refering to. Please take a look at your /usr/include and
> >the /include under the kernel source code. You will see there's no
> >'bits' subdir under /usr/include, but that it exists under the source
> >code /include, so you need a symlink named /usr/include/bits pointing to
> >the 'bits' directory under source code. Next, if you try to compile you
> >will have the same kind of error regarding some
> >.../include/asm/whatsoever (which I can't recall from top of my mind).
> >Again, you will see there's no .../asm directory under /usr/include, but
> >that it does exist under your source code includes (indeed it will be a
> >symlink pointing to your architecture asm headers, probably something
> >like i386asm. Once again you need to create the 'asm' symlink to your
> >/usr/includes and everything will go just OK.
> >
> Jesus,
> Not surprisingly, I have exactly the same Error 1 problem when trying to
> "make bzdisk." Could you be a bit more specific on exactly how to create
> the missing links?
> Thank You,
> Clyde Spencer
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From: "T.L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Video Card compatibility with RedHat (version 6.1)
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:25:51 GMT
Greetings,
Has anyone had any recent experience with a PCI based video card with
RedHat 6.1? I currently have an old (~3.5 yrs) Trident video card and I
would
like to upgrade to a significantly faster video card....
Any comments/suggestions would be appreciated....
Regards,
Tony L.
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From: Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I810 chipset and LInux
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 02:30:02 GMT
Neil Davies wrote:
>
> Just found the following page:
>
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/heliumfeat.php3
>
> It looks like mandrake 7.1 supports the i810 chipset, might give it a go
> myself!!!
I am currently running a multiboot system with SuSE 6.4 on an i810 system.
Works great!! SuSE also deals pretty well with the integrated sound on my
motherboard, using ALSA.
--
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot from CD-ROM?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:33:14 -0700
PasirRis wrote:
> OS: Redhat 6.0
> Linux partition: /dev/hda7
>
> During the installation process, I chose to create a boot disk rather than
> (putting the kernel?) to the harddisk.
>
> My CD-ROM is bootable. I thought I can boot (in fact, that have the 'boot:"
> command line when startup) from the CD-ROM and then load from my harddisk
> partition. It seems not the case. But is it possible to boot from CD-ROM,
> rather than from the floppy?
>
Yes, it is. Linux Gazette had an article on how to do. It would be good for
a harden standalone webserver (webpages and all executables). If someone
hacks it, just reboot and your webserver is back.
>
> what's the command to create one more boot disk (1.44m)?
I'm too lazy to look it up in linux.
Boot up into DOS (not windoze or dos under windoze)
diskcopy a: a:
>
> thanks.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot from CD-ROM?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:33:36 -0700
PasirRis wrote:
> OS: Redhat 6.0
> Linux partition: /dev/hda7
>
> During the installation process, I chose to create a boot disk rather than
> (putting the kernel?) to the harddisk.
>
> My CD-ROM is bootable. I thought I can boot (in fact, that have the 'boot:"
> command line when startup) from the CD-ROM and then load from my harddisk
> partition. It seems not the case. But is it possible to boot from CD-ROM,
> rather than from the floppy?
>
Yes, it is. Linux Gazette had an article on how to do. It would be good for
a harden standalone webserver (webpages and all executables). If someone
hacks it, just reboot and your webserver is back.
>
> what's the command to create one more boot disk (1.44m)?
I'm too lazy to look it up in linux.
Boot up into DOS (not windoze or dos under windoze)
diskcopy a: a:
>
> thanks.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot from CD-ROM?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:34:08 -0700
PasirRis wrote:
> OS: Redhat 6.0
> Linux partition: /dev/hda7
>
> During the installation process, I chose to create a boot disk rather than
> (putting the kernel?) to the harddisk.
>
> My CD-ROM is bootable. I thought I can boot (in fact, that have the 'boot:"
> command line when startup) from the CD-ROM and then load from my harddisk
> partition. It seems not the case. But is it possible to boot from CD-ROM,
> rather than from the floppy?
>
Yes, it is. Linux Gazette had an article on how to do. It would be good for
a harden standalone webserver (webpages and all executables). If someone
hacks it, just reboot and your webserver is back.
>
> what's the command to create one more boot disk (1.44m)?
I'm too lazy to look it up in linux.
Boot up into DOS (not windoze or dos under windoze)
diskcopy a: a:
>
> thanks.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot from CD-ROM?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:34:26 -0700
PasirRis wrote:
> OS: Redhat 6.0
> Linux partition: /dev/hda7
>
> During the installation process, I chose to create a boot disk rather than
> (putting the kernel?) to the harddisk.
>
> My CD-ROM is bootable. I thought I can boot (in fact, that have the 'boot:"
> command line when startup) from the CD-ROM and then load from my harddisk
> partition. It seems not the case. But is it possible to boot from CD-ROM,
> rather than from the floppy?
>
Yes, it is. Linux Gazette had an article on how to do. It would be good for
a harden standalone webserver (webpages and all executables). If someone
hacks it, just reboot and your webserver is back.
>
> what's the command to create one more boot disk (1.44m)?
I'm too lazy to look it up in linux.
Boot up into DOS (not windoze or dos under windoze)
diskcopy a: a:
>
> thanks.
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to boot from CD-ROM?
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 19:34:45 -0700
PasirRis wrote:
> OS: Redhat 6.0
> Linux partition: /dev/hda7
>
> During the installation process, I chose to create a boot disk rather than
> (putting the kernel?) to the harddisk.
>
> My CD-ROM is bootable. I thought I can boot (in fact, that have the 'boot:"
> command line when startup) from the CD-ROM and then load from my harddisk
> partition. It seems not the case. But is it possible to boot from CD-ROM,
> rather than from the floppy?
>
Yes, it is. Linux Gazette had an article on how to do. It would be good for
a harden standalone webserver (webpages and all executables). If someone
hacks it, just reboot and your webserver is back.
>
> what's the command to create one more boot disk (1.44m)?
I'm too lazy to look it up in linux.
Boot up into DOS (not windoze or dos under windoze)
diskcopy a: a:
>
> thanks.
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Subject: Re: Difference between vfat and msdos?
From: Victor Zhang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 20:12:33 -0700
Hi ,
Thanks for your answer,now I know the difference between the
two parameters.
Victor
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From: Valentin Guillen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Linux on Compaq Presario 1600XL141 (X Problem)
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 21:23:11 -0600
Boris,
Have you checked the http://www.xfree86.org to see the latest regarding
the Trident chipset inquestion. I just returned from there, and will
append what I found at the bottom of the post.
In the XF86Config file, there is a section where the maximum vertical
refresh rate and the maximum horizontal scan frequency are stated.
Then, in a later section, the MODELINE entries will dictate the actual
freqencies which are spelled out, along with the resolutions,color
depths, special instructions, etc. Without your file here to examine
and diagnose, I can only extrapolate so much, but here goes:
The vga server would certainly display for you, albeit in 640x 8bit, IF
the modeline entries for this resolution were valid, but they aren't.
When X starts, it begins parsing the config file, and if entries are
deemed to be invalid, they are internally "deleted". Now, nothing on
your system actually get removed, rather the line the invalid
instruction is on is merely "ignored".
The log file states explicitly:
Fatal server error:
No valid modes found.
and then I saw:
(--) VGA16: Mode "640x480" needs vert refresh rate of 67.43 Hz. Deleted.
This line says that the vga16 mode at 640x res NEEDS a vertical refresh
rate of 67.43, but couldn't use it, so this line is deleted (ignored).
This tells me that the vertical refresh rate LIMIT that was configured
into this file WILL NOT PERMIT the use of this frequency.
Your first BIG mistake was the purchase of a computer from a flaky
company. Compaq computers have always been antithetical to linux.
That's not to say that you can't load linux on Compaq. You can, but
you're seeing that it is with dificulty.
My recommendation is to ensure that the SVGA server is installed on your
box. We can assume that the VGA16 server is installed, but from the
documentation I've seen for Trident chipsets, they almost all use the
SVGA server. So, install the SVGA server, then delete the current
existing XF86Config file, then rerun the video configuration utility.
Then, WHY are you specifying:
Monitor : Extended SVGA, Hz=31.5-37.5 Vert=60Hz
You're NOT using an extended SVGA monitor, you are using an LCD
screen!!!!!!!!
Specify a 12 inch lcd screen!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This line above says that your monitor can use a horizontal scan
frequency of anywhere between 31.5 THROUGH 37.5 But, if you're using a
VGA monitor, or true vga resolution, you would be using a horizontal
scan rate of 25.x kHz. But, this is not permissible because you told X
that your monitor would only operate between 31.5 and 37.5
Then, when you specified a vertical refresh rate of 60hz, you
invalidated something else. Your error log says:
Mode "640x480" needs vert refresh rate of 67.43 Hz. Deleted.
Of course, this line is invalid, because your config file say you must
only operate at 60hz.
Then, when specifying your video chipset, this is it's official
identification, this is what X found when it probed ( I don't care at
all what it's english, model name is)
chipset: tgui9420dgi
So, that means that you actually have a TGUI9420dgi chipset.
THEN, you wish to get 640x480 res at 8 or 16 bit color depth. Guess
What, mon ami, the VGA 16 server is a 4 BIT SERVER. YOU CAN'T GET 8 OR
16 BIT COLOR FROM A 4 BIT SERVER!!!!!
Then, the VGA16 server CAN ONLY USE 256kb of video ram, even if your
bios can supply 8mb!!!!!!!
VGA16: videoram: 256k (using 256k)
Next, my practice is this: I will run my choice of vid config utils,
and when given the chance to "test" the configuration, I will tell it
NO, then have it save the file and exit, then I will startx Here's
why:
Because if there are errors during the test, your test will probably
crash/lock the session, and not only will the file not get saved or
written, but you may actually need to reboot, or your file system may
also get irreparably damaged. So, if it doesn't work, then I delete the
config file, and simply rerun the vid config util. If you can't get a
working X by inputting CORRECT, VALID DATA, then DON'T start guessing
and inputting guesses for correct values.
From http://www.xfree86.org FAQs
Q.F21- Is a server for the Trident Blade3D chipset available?
Support has been added in this release for the blade3d and cyberblade
chipset.
Q.F24- Is there any other way I can get an unsupported card to work?
Well, there is. If you are running Linux and the card is VBE-2.0
compliant in hardware. Unfortunately even today many new cards
are not. But if yours is, then you can setup a late version of the Linux
kernel (anything newer than 2.1.119 should do) with vesafb and
use the XF86_FBDev server with it. Anthony D'Amico has a nice
introduction how to do this at
http://www.uno.edu/~adamico/banshee/, where he describes how to get the
Banshee to work. Note that the section there about
installing the XF68_FBDev X server can be omitted. Instead use the
XF86_FBDev that is provided as part of XFree86 3.3.5. This
works in a very similar way for other VBE-2.0 compliant cards as well.
Q.G3- My Trident TGUI9680 card has problems with fonts
These problems can usually be fixed by adding the Option
"xaa_no_color_exp" to the Device Section in the XF86Config file.
Q.G4- The "cyber_shadow" Option doesn't work on my Cyber 9382.
This is a known problem, but there's a workaround. If you explicitly set
the chipset to cyber9382, the cyber_shadow option
works again.
Q.G6- My Trident laptop goes glowing-white when I start the server.
Disable the "panel stretch" or "enlarge panel" or "panel extend" feature
in the Laptop BIOS. Do not use the vesafb Linux kernel
module. With these two changes the server should work ok (you might need
Option "cyber_shadow", too).
Regards,
Valentin Guillen
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From: "jim, jan & jason salotti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.network,comp.os.linux.networking,comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: modem problems with linux
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 03:53:28 GMT
Hi everyone,
Gotta problem with a modem! System is running Caldera 2.4 edesktop with kde.
We have a askey V1433VQH-U modem. Using kppp to dail and the connection and
the chat script keeps timing out. We need a patch or drivers or instructions
on how to fix. We are newbees so keep it as simple as possible.
thanks,
Jim & Jason Salotti
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From: "Brooks Hagenow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Monitorless setup
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 22:55:29 -0500
After upgrading one of my two computers I ended up with enough spare parts
to build a third computer from my collection of spare parts.
I would like to setup my third system, a Pentium 233 MMX with 64 MB of RAM
as a Web server and a dedicated Half-Life server for the bi-monthly LAN
parties a friend and I host.
Because I do not have a monitor on this system, I would like to be able to
shut it down remotely when telnetting into it. It does not let me do that.
Is it possible to allow a shutdown for halt from a remote system?
Please give me as detailed instructions as possible if it is possible to
have it allow that. I have used Windows since version 3.0 and am just
starting to get into Linux. I can see I have been in the windows world way
too long. Many people that know me consider me a computer genius but after
starting to mess with Linux about two weeks ago I am feeling pretty
ignorant.
Two additional questions:
What is a good Linux beginners linux book? I bought a 900+ page book on
Linux and am about ready to throw it out. The book talks a lot but says
very little. The problem I have come accross is that so many Linux books
assume you know something already. For instance, the very first day I
started with Linux my book told me to open a file with my favorite text
editor. "Excuse me? I don't even know what text editors are available.
How the heck can I have a favorite?"
I was also wondering if there was a GUI front end that allows you to run the
front end on a Windows machine and connect to the linux machine remotely.
Right now if I want to use the GUI in Linux I have to move one of my two
monitors to that machine. I would like to be able to do everything remotely
and just let the Linux machine sit in the corner under the desk without any
display and have everything done over the network.
The remote shutdown is the main thing right now. I currently type blindly
and hope I get it right. I will try to telnet into it after a minute or so
of doing the command. If I can't connect, I assume it is shut down.
Thank you,
Brooks Hagenow
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From: "Joseph L. Suttie III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: ahn.tech.linux,alt.os.linux.mandrake,alt.uu.comp.os.linux.questions
Subject: Re: AMD linux Laptop
Date: Fri, 14 Jul 2000 23:02:18 -0500
I have a sony PII 333 Viao with docking station. If you run this out of the
docking you must use the flip out legs, the difference in operating temperature
is the difference between putting a fan on your cpu or not having a fan and
trying to get away with leaving the case off, it only works in super
air-conditioned rooms. That is My laptop (as you may see from my setiathome
club, KC6SE) is running day and night doing extensive FFT calculations! It gets
warm but it has not over heated. I set the graphics to 256 colors 640 X xxx
since this seemed to draw out the time the it took to complete a seti data
unit. I also use the machine for the photo shop and sony picture gate software
that came with it. I should have gotten a higher speed cpu. Note on the
difference between a mobile proc and desktop form sony's machines. The mobile
proc is a special card still device with up too 64 megs soldered on board. I
have since added (the max.) dimm 128 MB stick, it has helped.
As for laptops:
IBM make great machines, but their customer support is the thing to go for if
you have the money. They pay the shipping to them, they pay it back and it is
like two to three working days for repair. (I know, the tech at C.S.U.@Fresno
had to return his when the docking connector got buggered up when it was begin
used in a car, this was a problem with that model, the docking clamp was not a
strong connection.)
Next is the DELLs, their machines come with good graphics cards with video out,
now you can get them with DVD players, know what to do with that?
They have a wide range of machines, and i consider to be the best on the market,
they have good graphics cards, good network cards, good options in their docking
stations (standard PCI slots! add a monster 3d card!) And many other options.
(So does NEC laptops, they can run Q3! talk about powerful graphics)
Next is Sony. I heard many good things and the one my friend had is still doing
duty for his family. They were the lowest price that still offered DVD players
so I went with them (although now i would go with a dell).
All in all my laptop is limited by the CPU (no one can help you over come that,
accept the NEC my friend had, had a PII mobile, which he upgraded ! to a higher
proc speed) But the most limiting is the graphics card, the less powerful it is
the more duty the cpu does for the graphics. That is why my laptop takes 23 +
hours to do a setiathome unit on the highest resolutions, as opposed to 17 -1 8
hours on the lowest res/colors.
Have fun shopping and stick with athelons or PII don't get sucked into using
cpus which are already over clocked. Note on my seti page, my PII 400 Abit BX6
is as fast as my PIII 450 ABIT BE6, same memory, slightly more things running on
the PIII (The stupid CDR utility etc.) and two interlaced monster 3dfxs in the
PII. They are equally loaded by most accounts and the PII does just fine when
it comes down to calculations. (Note both machines are set to blank screen and
graphics spend, squeezing the system down to max. CPU calculation usage.)
Draco Ravenloft wrote:
> no.. you have that backward when referring to the Athlons. And P3s are buggy
> POSs.... I know people who have P3 500+s, they run worse, and slower than my
> roomate's P2 400. And they crash all the bloody time.
>
> P3 sucks, and I have run my own tests on P2 vs AMD and found AMD to win out
> virtually everytime except under 1 screen saver and 2 programs that were
> specifically written for Intels.
>
> Sean wrote:
>
> > actully the P3 has a better artecture then the AMDs, the amds cache only
> > runs (at best) half of the actual CPUs clocking speed, the p2/3 runs full
> > speed. I have a dell celron that runs nice and cool.
> > Sean
> >
> > "Draco Ravenloft" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > I've been shopping around for Laptops that come with either Linux
> > > preinstalled or no OS at all.... So far I found a few resonable ones
> > > that have linux in them, but they run either a celery or a PII/III.
> > > PIIIs suck altogether, and with the exception of Sony VAIOs Pentiums +
> > > Laptop tends to = over heat problem. I know a few companies make AMD
> > > laptops..... but I can't seem to find them.
> > >
> > > Anyone know if the lower resource drag from Linux.... might make the
> > > pentiums heat up less... or if anyone makes a laptop with a pentium in
> > > it besides Sony that keep really kewl... but also make them with linux
> > > (Dell makes linux based notebooks...... they get too hot?). I've been
> > > shopping at linuxmall.com and stuff and can't seem to find much.
> > >
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From: Israel Alvarez - is at isaka dot net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.powerpc,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: apache ??:tools to analyze traffic to a web server
Date: Sat, 15 Jul 2000 00:03:18 -0400
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, gLiTcH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
If you're willinhg to pay money for this, check out FunnelWeb by Active
Concepts (www.activeconcepts.com). I find it to be an indispensable tool
for my clients and myself. If there's an open source solution that comes
close to the power of FunnelWeb, I'm not aware of it.
However, another option (and one I'm exploring) is to use a combination
of PHP and custom-written scripts to do this. I've been amazed at the
amount of information that can be gleaned from even a simple
custom-written report.
> try httpanalyze
>
> doing a search should retrieve the URL
>
> "!! Tonnere de Brest" wrote:
>
> > I am administrating a web server running apache 1.3 with a lot of
> > virtual domains. What kind of tools are available to analyze the
> > traffic? Is it better to have 1 log file for all the virtual domains or
> > 1 log file for every domain?
etc...
--
Israel Alvarez - Propellerhead Without Portfolio
is at isaka dot net - The amazingly heavy lifeless dog
"The crimes of eBay are a disgrace to its Pig Latin heritage." - TheOnion.com
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