Linux-Setup Digest #196, Volume #19              Wed, 19 Jul 00 06:13:05 EDT

Contents:
  Re: can't read large tar.bz2 files! please help ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory (kernel compile error) ("Clyde Spencer")
  Re: 2 Problems with installation of Suse 6.4 (Markus Weinkauf)
  Re: 'no free primary' during 6.2 install ("Jason Byrne")
  Linux routing ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  maybe some one can help with my cable modem ("My News")
  Re: Defraging against LILO? (Villy Kruse)
  Re: YP and + ("Jason Byrne")
  Re: dual boot help ("Jason Byrne")
  Re: Sendmail slowing down startup ("Jason Byrne")
  Re: ext2 partition between FAT32 partitions ("Rich S")
  Re: Starting from scratch on Alpha... ("Adonna Frankel & Paul Smith")
  Re: time zone confusions (Villy Kruse)
  RPM query problem ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: is there a port to windows media player? (Erik de Castro Lopo)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: can't read large tar.bz2 files! please help
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:00:07 GMT


>
> bzcat filename.tar.bz2 | tar [whatever]
>
Thanks, that works
Mike


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From: "Clyde Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.misc
Subject: Re: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory (kernel compile error)
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:30:26 -0700

David,
    I recompiled using 'make bzdisk' and everything seems OK.  I was again
able to boot off the floppy and it seems to have gotten rid of the
"unresolved symbols" problem.  However, instead of leaving a 'bzimage' file
in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot it seems to have written a 'bvmlinux' file
in /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/compressed.  When I tried to reconfigure
lilo.conf with the image pointing to that file copied to /boot, and then ran
'/sbin/lilo -v' it complained that my kernel was too large.  bvmlinux was
495,661 bytes while the previous vmlinuz was 620,247 bytes.
    Some minor problems with 'depmod' not able to find
/usr/src/linux/modules/2.2.16-3/modules when the system boots since all the
newly created modules got placed in /usr/src/linux/modules.
    I can't mount fd0 to read what is on the boot floppy to confirm if it is
the same as what is in .../boot/compressed.
    I'm still able to boot off the generic 2.2.16-3 on my hard-drive, but
things are not really going smoothly.
Clyde

David .. wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>>
<snip>
>This step is to setup links to files which are needed to compile
>programs and the kernel.
>
>   cd  /usr/include
>
>   rm  -rf  asm  linux  scsi
>
>   ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/asm-i386  asm
>
>   ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/linux  linux
>
>   ln  -s  /usr/src/linux/include/scsi  scsi
>
>
>--
>Registered with the Linux Counter.  http://counter.li.org
>ID # 123538



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From: Markus Weinkauf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 2 Problems with installation of Suse 6.4
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:49:36 +0000
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Markus Weinkauf wrote:
> 
> on my notebook fujitsu LiteLine model nr. 5033
> i have installed a kernel with apm . So when i boot , my system hangs at
> SETTING the CMOS clock ....
> i havent found a reason therefor. However if i boot via CDROM , and
> choose then Boot installed system, everything functions.
> what can i do ?   i havent found anything at suse support, and in
> newsgroup
> my pcmcia are also disabled for starting at boot time. So this cant also
> be the reason


I will help you,
you have to use another kernel!! use a normal pentium optimized kernel,
then it will work!!

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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 'no free primary' during 6.2 install
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 00:53:30 -0700

Well... one way to put it would be - RedHat's partitioning tool (Disk Druid)
is junk - and it doesn't give you enough power to work out problems like
this.

It would be helpful if you give some information about how your hard-drive
is partitioned so far (sorry if you might have posted it already).

You are limited to four primary partitions - one of which serves as a
'container' for an extended partition if you have one.

Primary partitions are numbered 1-4 (/dev/hda1-4 or /dev/sda1-4, depending
on whether you have an IDE or SCSI drive).  Extended/logical partitions will
start at '5'.

You might not actually be out of available primary partitions... but Disk
Druid might not be able to give you something that 'works'.

In my own experience... when I'm *forced* to install RedHat and I know Disk
Druid is too dumb to let me do what I need with various partitions... I use
a better partitioning tool (for example... the one that you get with SuSE) -
and then go back to the RedHat install... at which point I just need to
label all of the mounts.

Of course this might not be a convenient solution if you don't have an
arsenal of Linux/Unix partitioning tools (or alternatives)

Dhrakol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8l2k6f$eap$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> this is a correction for my post yesterday regarding 'redhat 6.2
installation
> problem with 10.2 GB hdd'. the error message i get after trying to make
the
> swap partition is not 'partition too big' but 'no free primary'. what does
> this mean? i really hope someone can help me out here..
>
> Dhrakol
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Linux routing
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:39:09 GMT

I have a small network, consisting of a Linux PC connected to the
Internet and various Linux and Windows PC's.  I want all PC's to have
access to the net and the net to access the internal machines, butI
don't want to use Masquarading (I have a Class C network).

I can get the machines talking to the net using Masquarading, but as
soon as I turn this off, only the gateway machine can communicate.

I have exhausted my limited knowledge of routing and am asking for help
to get the routing right.

As an example, the gateway machine is assigned a static PPP IP of, for
example, 1.1.1.34, and my gateway machine eth0 is 203.x.x.1 and other
machines various ip numbers 203.x.x.200-205.  My gateway machine
connects to the ISP gateway using IP of 1.1.1.1. It is a 24/7
connection.

If someone can help to get the net to all machines, I would be grateful.

Barterman


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From: "My News" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: maybe some one can help with my cable modem
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 07:51:21 GMT

I using shaw@home in B.C. canada apparently a normal either net card but I
dont even know where to start on getting it going... can any one help

email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Date: 19 Jul 2000 08:11:45 GMT

On Tue, 18 Jul 2000 10:26:08 +0100, Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>Hi all,
>
>I wonder if someone might know what the solution for my problem could
>be. I know some other people that had the same problem, but no one knew
>how to solve it.
>
>I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
>disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
>that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
>the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
>possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
>
>Someone told me that it might be possible to recover the system by
>reinstalling the linux as an upgrade, and that it would recover the
>LILO, but it was not possible to reinstall it, because it seems that it
>has also destroyed the partition system of Linux.
>
>Does anyone know if it is possible to recover the system after this
>problem, or any idea how to defrag the hard disk without destroying the
>Linux?
>



Doing defrag in windows does not do anything to lilo or linux file
systems, unless there are special circumstances we don't know about.
If this is not fixed then the problem will turn up again some time later.

One posibility is that the windows file system is larger than the
partition where it is located.  Once created the size of a vfat file
system is taken from the file system itself, not from the partition table,
even if you rerun the format command to create a new vfat file system.
The windows system will then be more than happy to trample on the contens
on the next partition.  Nothing appears to happen as long as the end of
the vfat file system remains unallocated, but defrag will for sure put
temporary files at the end of the file system.

The FIPS program is able to detect this condition, and in fact I've seen
some systems with pre-installed windows that had this exact problem and
FIPS detected this when trying to split the partition.


Another posibility is that if you copy the vmlinuz and the other /boot
components to a vfat file system, then if defrag moves around with these
files the lilo will no longer work.  In this case you should always have
a copy of loadlin on the vfat file system just in case, and also make
the components from the /boot directory 'system' and 'hidden' so defrag
won't move them.





Villy

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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: YP and +
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:17:05 -0700


Among other things... the following files are important on a Linux machine
as I recall:

/etc/nsswitch.conf (tell your system the order you want to resolve
information for various services)

/etc/init.d/rc.d/rc.sysinit (there is a section to set the NIS domain in
this script)

/etc/yp.conf, /etc/ypserv.conf (specify various options such as default NIS
server, data directory location for server - if this machine is the
server... for example - /var/yp)

/var/yp/Makefile (This is similar to a normal makefile... but you are
setting up which 'maps' you want to generate)

/etc/auto.master (global configuration file for autofs/automounter)

/etc/auto.home (definitions for exported home directories?  or you might be
asking an NIS server for this)

In /etc/auto.master and /etc/auto.home... there are a couple of ways to
point to 'NIS maps'.  On Linux machines... I've used 'yp:auto.home' to tell
the computer to look at the NIS map for auto.home, but you might also see
'+auto_home' (Solaris)

/etc/exports might also be of interest since you are probably exporting
filesystems via NFS to other machines.

/etc/netgroup is typically used to set up access rights based on 'netgroups'

For NIS clients... you typically want to add '+::::::' to the end of the
/etc/passwd and '+:::' to the end of /etc/group (check the number of colons
for each).  This basically tells the machine to check NIS for any user/group
that doesn't make sense in the local passwd/group files

---

I'm leaving out a lot of details... but I figured a 'to-do' list might be
helpful.

It sounds like you might be doing this for the first time... and I'd
recommend doing some searches on google.com, linuxdoc.org, and other typical
places.  I don't remember finding 'golden' information in any one place when
I was trying to figure it out - best bet is to pick and choose from several
sources and look for overlapping suggestions ;-)


> Hi,
> I've got  a little more info now, I'm using Red Hat 6.1 right now, and I
> was asked to configure the yp, ypinit, ypbind etc, whatever that is.
>
> Once I've done that I should be able to look at all the maps, like the
> passwd file, the hosts, file etc.
>
>
> Another thing I need to do is set up the automounter, which will do the
> dynamic
> mounting of directories from other machine.
>
> If anybody has any info or knows a site where I can get that info I will
> very thankful,
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
>
> Sly.
>



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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: dual boot help
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:30:20 -0700

> I'm trying to set up a dual boot linux/98 system on an Athalon 700 with a
> 13GB drive.  I partitioned the drive under linux (off the debian install
> cd) into
>
> hda1 15MB linux boot  (/boot)
> hda2 ~6GB    Win98 fat 16
> hda3    ~6.5 GB linux
> hda4    ~100MB  linux swap
>
> I installed windows first on hda2 and then linux on hda1 and 3.  Lilo
> worked well, everything seemed fine, and then I noticed in Windows that
> c: only had 998MB.

I always install any Windows OS on the first primary partition (hda1)... and
otherwise leave the rest of the drive unpartitioned - or at the very
least... don't create any extended partitions yet.

I would then follow with the Linux installation... creating primary
partition(s) and extended/logical partitions with Linux... including 'extra'
fat16 partitions you plan to give to Windows.

As far as dual-booting the OS'... you have a couple of choices if both OS'
boot from the same hard-drive:

You could either install LILO on the MBR (pretty normal... and add Windows
as a boot choice) - or you could install LILO on the boot partition of the
Linux installation... and activate the Linux boot partition (again... adding
Windows as a boot choice)

(In the second case... /dev/hda1 used to be the active partition... and you
effectively switch the active status *off* when you change the active
partition to /dev/hda2)

The second LILO scenario is also useful if you have an ancient BIOS and are
forced to use EZBIOS on your hard-drive to see the full capacity, etc..
This way you can leave EZBIOS intact... but you can still use LILO to dual
boot by just putting it on /dev/hda2 and changing the active partition)

>
> I then made the mistake of trying to reinstall windows.  I let dos fdisk
> delete and replace the hda2 partition, and reinstalled windows.  Still
998MB
> and now I can't boot linux either - my rescue disk can't find the kernel.
>
> Any suggestions as to how I can fix this?  I'm still hoping to not have
> to repartition the whole drive, but if I do, I want to do it right this
> time.
>
> Thanks,
> bridget
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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From: "Jason Byrne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Sendmail slowing down startup
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:35:09 -0700

One of the most typical reasons for this - RedHat gives you a retarded
/etc/hosts file

Change silly /etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain mymachine.somedomain.org mymachine

to a 'correct' etc/hosts:

127.0.0.1 localhost
192.168.0.1 mymachine.somedomain.org mymachine

(of course replace 192.168.0.1 and real machine name accordingly)
Dogbert Dilbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Dear All,
>
> when I startup LINUX (RedHat 6.2), I get all the messages scrolling by
> in  white and green of all the processes that the kernel is starting
> up. When it gets to Sendmail it halts for a good 2 minutes before it
> will proceed.
>
> I can get e-mail fine with Kmail - is there anywhere I could look to
> see why Sendmail is taking so long to start up, or alternatively to
> stop it running at startup so that it only comes on when I need it?
>
> Many Thanks!
>
> Dogbert



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From: "Rich S" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: ext2 partition between FAT32 partitions
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:33:49 +0100

Cheers for the info.  Just to doubly check then.  If everything is set up
for windows (all partitions are in FAT32).
And I use YaST to remove the 5gb partition to create a / and a swap
partition (need I say "for installing linux") to take up the place of that
5gb.
WILL windows be able to see and use the remaining 23gb of the hdd?  Is it a
case that windows is unable to find FAT partitions after non-FAT partitions
at any stage (upon booting into) or just at the initial install phase.

John Thompson wrote in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>...
>Rich S wrote:
>
>> I recently posted here getting advice about partitioning my hdd.  And
>> although it was just what I needed I have now just found out that it
might
>> not be possible.
>> I want to do the following
>> 2gb - Win98SE
>> 5gb - Linux
>> 10gb - Windows Data
>> 10gb - windows Data
>> 3gb - spare
>>
>> However, upon reading my installation manual (SUSE 6.4) it read that I
>> couldnt have the linux partition in between windows partitions.  Is this
>> true?
>
>I don't think linux will care much but IIRC, Windows is unable to
>find FAT partitions that lie beyond non-FAT partitions.  As soon
>as Windows sees a non-FAT partition it just gives up looking any
>further.
>
>--
>
>
>-John ([EMAIL PROTECTED])



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From: "Adonna Frankel & Paul Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.alpha
Subject: Re: Starting from scratch on Alpha...
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 01:31:15 -0700

>It turns out that the boxes we have been given are 2100 servers, type
>A500MP.  I don't know anything about them yet.  Can I assume 500 MHz
>twin CPU ?

>This is the first machine I've owned that's big enough to parallel
>park !

The 2100 is a very early high end server.

It should be great fun to play with if you have a fork lift to move it.  It
weighs about 160 pounds.

FreeBSD and NetBSD will think it is an Alpha 400, and will not be able to
use the second processor.
For either OS to work, it must have SRM firmware.

Paul Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED]







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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Crossposted-To: linux.redhat.install
Subject: Re: time zone confusions
Date: 19 Jul 2000 08:56:30 GMT

On Wed, 19 Jul 2000 09:31:59 +0700,
        David Lewis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>HI,
>
>On a Rehat 6.2 system I have set up the time zone to match my location
>"Asia/Phnom Penh" which is GMT/UTC +7.
>
>However the system seems to be subtracting 7 rather than adding 7 to the UTC
>time.
>The date command gives the following :-
>
>[root@lion8 david]# date
>Wed Jul 19 02:21:46 GMT+7 2000
>[root@lion8 david]# date -u
>Wed Jul 19 09:21:51 UTC 2000
>
>And the hardware clock IS set to actual GMT/UTC
>[root@lion8 david]# /sbin/hwclock
>Wed Jul 19 02:26:20 2000  -0.483259 seconds
>

The number in the TZ variable is the number you need to add to the
local time to get UTC time, thus for most of the world except North and
South America this number will be negative.


And try this:

$ TZ=Asia/Phnom_Penh date
Wed Jul 19 15:29:51 ICT 2000
$ TZ=GMT-7 date
Wed Jul 19 15:29:51 GMT 2000
$ TZ=GMT+7 date
Wed Jul 19 01:29:51 GMT 2000

Then run setup->Timzone configuration->Run Tool
and select "Asia/Phnom_Penh" and you no long need to have any TZ
variable set.


Villy

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RPM query problem
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 08:56:01 GMT

when i type this command "rpm -qa", have received following error
message:

usr/lib/rpm/rpmq: error while loading Shared libraries: libbz2.so.0:
cannot not open shared object file: No such file or directory

my RPM version is 4.0

what's happen??



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From: Erik de Castro Lopo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: 
comp.os.linux.development.apps,comp.os.linux.development.system,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: is there a port to windows media player?
Date: Wed, 19 Jul 2000 10:00:58 +0000

Dave Blake wrote:
> 
> Stewart Honsberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > He only said that there are plenty of .asp only sources. I
> > offered him an alternative. Since Microsoft isn't being very
> > forthcoming in offering either a port of their product or the
> > structs of their format, I'd just as soon abandon it completely
> > in favour of something more open.
> 
> http://wmformatsdk.smdisp.net/rtm/
> 
> This is the media format software developer kit, of course a
> Windows Executable. But it should provide adequate descriptions
> of the media for the willing.

No it doesn't :-). All it provides are header files and examples for
using the Windows libraries on Windows. It does not in any way 
describe the file format or how to decode/encode the files.

Erik
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+-------------------------------------------------+
     Erik de Castro Lopo     [EMAIL PROTECTED]
+-------------------------------------------------+
Everything that I've learned about computers I have boiled 
down into three principles:
  Unix: You think it won't work, but if you find the right 
        guru, you can make it work.
  Macintosh: You think it will work, but it won't.
  PC/Windows: You think it won't work, and it won't.

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