Linux-Setup Digest #228, Volume #19 Sun, 23 Jul 00 18:13:13 EDT
Contents:
Problem ("Frogz Tag Seaking")
Re: UDMA66 / USB (Sandhitsu R Das)
Re: Problem (David Efflandt)
Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition (Andy Kinsey)
Re: No ISA Duron :-( shopping for compatible PCI modem. (E J)
Re: print problem (Norman Levin)
Re: Defraging against LILO? (Norman Levin)
Re: environment var's in linux (Norman Levin)
Re: fdisk question... (Norman Levin)
Re: LI problem (Norman Levin)
Two problems (Michael Mitchell)
Re: environment var's in linux (Bit Twister)
Re: Two problems ("dale hites")
New Slackware install trashes HD ("Don Burden")
Re: Adaptec AVA1502 and Ricoh MP6200S CD-R/W (John McCabe)
Re: Adaptec AVA1502 and Ricoh MP6200S CD-R/W (Guy Maskall)
newbie: Caldera won't install from ATAPI CDR (Bryan Crawford)
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From: "Frogz Tag Seaking" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Problem
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:31:15 +0200
Hi! I hope one of you expertes may help me. I want to install gentus on my
new computer. I have a KA7-100 motherboard and a IBM 45 gb harddisk. The HD
is partioned into 4 partions:
c: - system 5 gb
d: -*** 15 gb
e: -*** 15 gb
f: -*** 8 gb
I have windows 98 fe installed at c:. I tried to delete f:, so that I could
get the GB`s I needed for gentus. But when I tried to make a /boot ( it was
less then 16 mb ) I got the message that it was to big. When I tried to
delete c: instead of f:, there seemed to be no problem. But this leads to
another problem. I still want to have win98 on my computer, so I can not
delete c:. Please help me. Thanks in advance!
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From: Sandhitsu R Das <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: UDMA66 / USB
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:33:59 -0400
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Keith Rhodes wrote:
> I have a a 10GByte UDMA66 hard drive and I'm thinking about getting a USB
> keyboard and mouse.
>
> Has anybody experience of these with the following hardware / software
> combination?
>
> Linux kernel 2.2.14-15 (distrib Mandrake 7.0)
i think your best bet is 7.1 - your hdd will run out of the box - and
there is decent usb support as well...
> Motherboard Abit BP6 (twin celeron).
>
this shouldn't be any problem...
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Efflandt)
Subject: Re: Problem
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 19:35:22 +0000 (UTC)
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Frogz Tag Seaking <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Hi! I hope one of you expertes may help me. I want to install gentus on my
>new computer. I have a KA7-100 motherboard and a IBM 45 gb harddisk. The HD
>is partioned into 4 partions:
>c: - system 5 gb
>d: -*** 15 gb
>e: -*** 15 gb
>f: -*** 8 gb
>
>I have windows 98 fe installed at c:. I tried to delete f:, so that I could
>get the GB`s I needed for gentus. But when I tried to make a /boot ( it was
>less then 16 mb ) I got the message that it was to big. When I tried to
>delete c: instead of f:, there seemed to be no problem. But this leads to
>another problem. I still want to have win98 on my computer, so I can not
>delete c:. Please help me. Thanks in advance!
Is gentus a Norwegian version of Linux?
LILO is the program that boots Linux or other operating systems. Except
for the most recent LILO version, you would need a primary /boot partition
(16 MB) entirely below cylinder 1024, because LILO needs to find the
kernel below that point. The "too big" error is because LILO would not be
able to find a kernel that far out on the disk.
You need to somehow figure out how to insert a 16 MB primary partition
between partition 1 (c:) and partition 2 (extended). Unless d: and e: are
empty and could be removed, along with the extended partition, you may be
able to shrink the c: partition just enough to stuff in a 16 MB (1 cyl)
/boot partition after it. The rest of Linux can go anywhere.
--
David Efflandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.de-srv.com/
http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
http://hammer.prohosting.com/~cgi-wiz/ http://cgi-help.virtualave.net/
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From: Andy Kinsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To:
comp.os.linux,comp.os.linux.help,comp.os.linux.questions,comp.os.linux.redhat
Subject: Re: I need some step-by-step instructions on mounting a FAT partition
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 15:46:34 -0400
Computadora wrote:
> I'm brand new to linux, so I apologize for myself in advance. I just
> installed Red Hat 6.2 onto my system. I have a 20 gig drive, 10 gigs
> devoted to windows 98 and 10 gigs devoted to linux. The installation
> went ok, but I cannot figure out how to read files that are in my
> windows partition in linux. My ISP uses a PPPoE client for the DSL
> connections. The linux PPPoE client software is too big for a floppy,
> so I need to download it from Windows 98 and bring it into linux.
> Again, I am very new, so I really need step-by-step instructions on
> how to do this... i'm using the GNOME XWindows system. If someone can
> point me to anything on the web that's for total beginners it would be
> much appreciated.
The following is my /etc/fstab file, which shows which partitions I have
mounted in Linux:
/dev/hdc5 / ext2 defaults 1
1
/dev/hdc2 swap swap defaults 0
0
/dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy ext2 noauto 0
0
/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,exec,dev,suid,ro 0 0
none /proc proc defaults 0
0
none /dev/pts devpts mode=0622 0
0
/dev/sda4 /mnt/zip vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 user,exec,dev,suid,ro 1 1
/dev/hda1 /mnt/c vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hda5 /mnt/d vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hda6 /mnt/e vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hdb5 /mnt/f vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hdb6 /mnt/g vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hdb7 /mnt/h vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/hdc6 /mnt/i vfat user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
/dev/scd1 /mnt/cdrom2 iso9660 user,exec,dev,suid,rw 1 1
I have created directories under the /mnt directory for the C, D, E, F,
G, H, and I drives in Windows. My drives are FAT32 partitions, therefore
they are labeled "vfat" in the /etc/fstab file. Since Windows resides on
the first partition on the first drive (the C:\ drive), my Windows
directory would be found on /mnt/c, or /dev/hda1. You can make the
directories manually and edit the /etc/fstab file manually (as root), or
you can create the entries in linuxconf (again, as root) in the File
Systems section under "access local drive".
This isn't the whole story, and as I am also a newbie, I can only tell
you what I have been able to figure out myself. The above entries in
/etc/fstab do not allow write access to any of the DOS drives (unless you
are logged in as root). However, feel free to e-mail me if you have any
more questions; I may be able to help.
Andy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: E J <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: No ISA Duron :-( shopping for compatible PCI modem.
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 12:47:13 -0700
Ignacio Valdes wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I'm looking for a Linux compatible PCI modem. Must be PCI because I'm
> using it with the new Duron/Thunderbird compatible boards which DON'T
> have an ISA slot. I've checked the modem knowledge base at:
>
> http://www.kcdata.com/~gromitkc/20000716a.html
>
> But holy cow nothing seems to be turning up. Can anyone help me shop
> for this? Again, requirements are PCI, Linux compatible, (and low cost?)
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- IV
* Well check the outside of the modem box, make sure it can run under pure
DOS and/or Linux
* Check the website of the modem manufacturer and make sure it has a
controller chip, and can run pure DOS and/or Linux.
* Some of the local (here in Vancouver) computer companies are advertising
PCI modem as either (SW) or (HW).
Avoid SW (software) modem, and take a closer look at HW (hardware) modem.
* Have you considered external serial modems? They are usually real
modems.
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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 21:59:27 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: print problem
oneal nichols wrote:
>
> I used printtool, attempted to access a printer close to my own (Xerox
> c11) and did a test page which qued but did not print. I tried several
> types of printers. Do you know how to load a daemon?
** as root, you could do "lpd &"
but you may want to use "ntsysv" to see why lpd isn't being started
automatically thru the rc.d start up scripts.
> oneal
>
> "David .." wrote:
> >
> > oneal nichols wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm trying to get Redhat 6.2 to load my printer but I keep getting the
> > > message that no daemon is loaded. What do I do ?
> > > thanks
> > > Oneal
> >
> > Did you use "printtool" to configure your printer?
> >
> > --
> > Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
> > ID # 123538
--
Norman Levin
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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:14:28 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc
Subject: Re: Defraging against LILO?
Scott Rose wrote:
>
> I have the same problem. I'm running a dual Win98/Redhat 6.2 system. When
> I run Defrag under Windows, it seems to corrupt the Linux partitions. My
> Linux boot disk did not help, as the ext2 file sytsem was corrupted and fsck
> could not fix it. I had to reinstall Linux, and not use defrag.
** defrag should just work within the C: or D: disk - that is, hda1 or whatever.
In other words, it should not touch the master boot record. More than likely, there
is something in the geometry which is telling the dos program that the partition
extends
further than it really does and it is over writting the start of the linux partition
and
clobbering the superblok.
SO - make sure your linux kernel is below 1024 cylinders and using fdisk or cfdisk,
maybe
see that your partitions end on a cylinder boundary.
>
> Unai Garro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I wonder if someone might know what the solution for my problem could
> > be. I know some other people that had the same problem, but no one knew
> > how to solve it.
> >
> > I had installed both Linux Mandrake 7.0 and the Win98 on the same hard
> > disk, when I decided to defragment the disk under Windoze. I thought
> > that this should not be a problem, because Windows was not able to 'see'
> > the Linux partitions. It has however destroyed the LILO, so it is not
> > possible to boot up neither Linux nor Windoze.
> >
> > Someone told me that it might be possible to recover the system by
> > reinstalling the linux as an upgrade, and that it would recover the
> > LILO, but it was not possible to reinstall it, because it seems that it
> > has also destroyed the partition system of Linux.
> >
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to recover the system after this
> > problem, or any idea how to defrag the hard disk without destroying the
> > Linux?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Unai
--
Norman Levin
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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:24:10 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: environment var's in linux
Bit Twister wrote:
>
> The command
> export RHIDE=/dir/spec/here
>
> Global for everyone on the system /etc/profile
** this will be global as long as you are using something like bash, ksh, pdksh etc.
If you use csh, it will not be executed. You may want to look in /etc/init.d/rc.d and
look for a shell script with a name LIKE "sysinit". (I'm not on a linux system this
sec).
As you browse thru this script, you can see where variables are defined and exported
that
will be in EVERYBODYs environment.
> Global for your account ~/.bash_profile
>
> Next login should pick up the variable.
>
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 17:25:30 +1000, Linda Houston <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >can anyone tell me how to define a global environtment variable in linux,
> >specifically a directory for RHIDE so i can read info files from inside it
>
> --
> The warranty and liability expired as you read the message.
> If the above breaks your system, it's yours and you keep both pieces.
> Practice safe computing. Backup the file before you change it.
> Do a, man every_command_here, before doing anything or running a script.
--
Norman Levin
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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 01:43:21 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: fdisk question...
sharkfish wrote:
>
> I am installing Red Hat 6.1 on a IBM Thinkpad 600X. I am using
> the text installation, and my hard disk is 10Gig. First
> partition is 3G FAT (NT 4.0), second partition 3G NTFS, third
> partition is 3G FAT.
>
> Red Hat install won't give me the option to format my last
> partition. It sees it as DOS >= 32, and it says it will only
> load Linux onto a Linux partition. Well...
** make sure you are running the latest bios level for your model.
There were some problems with large disks on the 6xx and 7xx series
fixed in latest bios levels.
--
Norman Levin
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Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 01:51:08 -0400
From: Norman Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: LI problem
Aaron Phillip O'Brien wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I know this has been discussed in previouse postings lots of times and in lots
> of different newsgroups. Give me slack because I have genuinely tried to
> follow the advice given by *everyone*. I have reloaded my system still to no
> avail.
>
> I can boot up with a floppy, however I can't boot up via c:. It just hangs at
> LI. I believe the problem is because my /boot is not within the 1024 cluster.
** it is within the first 1024 CYLINDERS. Your entire disk is less than 800 cylinders
so you do not have that problem (more in your lilo.conf file)
>
> Here are the details of my partitions:
>
> mount point | Device | Space | type |
> ----------- + ------ + ----- + ------------ +
> /boot | hda1 | 21m | Linux native |
> / | hda3 | 1506m | Linux native |
> swap | hda5 | 21m | Linux swap |
>
> Here are the details of my hard drive:
>
> Drive Geom[c/h/s] total used free
> hda [787/64/63] 1594m 1594m 0m
>
> I am using Mandrake version 6.2.
>
> How can I set up the /boot so that it falls withing the 1024 cluster limit of the
> master boot recored?
>
> Below is my lilo.conf
> boot = /dev/hda1
** make that /dev/hda
> map = /boot/map
> install=/boot/boot.b
> prompt
> timeout = 50
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-4mdk
> label = linux
> root=/dev/hda3
> read-only
>
>
>
> Thanks to anyone that can help
>
> Aaron
>
> --
--
Norman Levin
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From: Michael Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Two problems
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:09:59 GMT
Running Redhat 6.1
Problem No. 1- I have cable service through Intermedia@Home, Netscape
opens fine, looks good, but I can't get my settings to enable the
Netscape Messenger. In windoze, the pop server is - mail - and the
smtp is - mail -, what are they running Linux.
Problem No.2- I have a Canon BJC-240L printer that I can't seem to get
configured. Printool does not seem to work using /dev/lp1 or /dev/lp0.
I read, read, read every how-to but can't seem to make the thing go. I
have to be overlooking something simple.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bit Twister)
Subject: Re: environment var's in linux
Reply-To: This_news_group.invalid
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:36:09 GMT
You are correct, but I figured if they do not know how to set the variable
they would not know how to change their default shell.
On Fri, 21 Jul 2000 22:24:10 -0400, Norman Levin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>** this will be global as long as you are using something like bash, ksh, pdksh etc.
>If you use csh, it will not be executed. You may want to look in /etc/init.d/rc.d and
>look for a shell script with a name LIKE "sysinit". (I'm not on a linux system this
>sec).
>As you browse thru this script, you can see where variables are defined and exported
>that
>will be in EVERYBODYs environment.
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Reply-To: "dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "dale hites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Two problems
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 16:09:11 -0500
Michael,
You may have the same problem I had with RH 6.1 and Canon BJC4100. The port
is not configured. I had to key in the following from root login.
insmod parport
insmod parport_pc io=0x378 irq=7
insmod parport_probe
insmod lp parport=0
You can just cut and past these four commands and run them from bash. Now,
when you shutdown you'll lose them, so stick them in a startupconfiguration
file if they work for you. Note that this is for the LP port, other ports
will have different io addrs and interrupts.
Dale
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From: "Don Burden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: New Slackware install trashes HD
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 17:20:56 -0400
I bought a set of Linux CDs last December and just now got around to
installing the CD for "Slackware Linux 7.0". This CD is from the Infomagic
"Developer's Resource" 6 CD set. The Slackware CD installs the 2.2.13
kernel.
I have two HDs. One 60G for Windows 2000 (primary - hda) and one 37G for
Windows 98 (slave - hdb). Both IBM drives. I decided to install Linux to
hdb. I partitioned my second drive to have approx. 27G in the first
partition for Windows 98 (hdb1), 9G in the second partition for Linux
(hdb2), and the rest for swap (hdb3, about 750M). I booted my system from
the Slackware CD and just answered the prompts. The formatting of the Linux
partitions in hdb2 and hdb3 seemed to run smoothly, as well as the system
installation itself. When rebooting, I booted back to the Windows98
partition and was surprised to see my Windows directories and files trashed
from what looks like being overwritten with the Linux installed files. I am
certain I installed to the Linux hdb2 partition and not the Windows 98
partition (hdb1).
I'm just now getting back into Linux after a few years absence in using MS
systems exclusively. Something like this happening has really put me off in
allowing Linux a second chance.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McCabe)
Subject: Re: Adaptec AVA1502 and Ricoh MP6200S CD-R/W
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 21:22:55 GMT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McCabe) wrote:
>Guy Maskall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>John McCabe wrote:
>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John McCabe) wrote:
>>>
>>> I've tried both these suggestions and they don't quite do what I want.
>>> Would I be better off splashing out on a real AHA-1520? Will that be
>>> detected properly?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best Regards
>>> John McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>Hmmm...
>>I can't comment on the benefit of getting a 'proper' aha1520. The fact
>>that you can manually get the module to load implies that it's not a h/w
>>problem so you wouldn't gain from a new card in that case.
>
>My main aim is to get it all working perfectly without having to
>fiddle around with files I don't know much about. Basically I am
>hoping that, if I can just replace the AVA-1502 with an AHA-1520, it
>will automatically be detected and configured by the kernel without me
>having to worry about it.
I noticed in another message the use of "depmod -a" after editing
conf.modules. Is this something that I should have done?
Best Regards
John McCabe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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From: Guy Maskall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Adaptec AVA1502 and Ricoh MP6200S CD-R/W
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 22:37:50 +0100
> >As you have scsi_hostadaptor aliased to aha152x then doing
> >'/sbin/modprobe scsi_hostadaptor' will be the same as '/sbin/modprobe(or
> >insmod) aha152x'. From what you said before, this then loads your host
> >adaptor driver and the h/w is detected.
>
> Is there a difference between scsi_hostadaptor and scsi_hostadapter?
>
Doh!
Yes there is.
'...or' is my mis-spelling and '...er' is the correct spelling!
That was actually the problem with my conf.modules. I'd got the alias
name wrong ... 8-)
(on my way to sit facing the corner ....)
Guy
I'm afraid I can't offer any more help on what your problem may be.
I don't think a new card would be an improvement as it smells of a
config issue, why you can load it manually but it doesn't get loaded
automatically I'm not sure. The only thing that comes to mind is maybe a
dependency isn't quite set up i.e. when it loads the scsi driver (e.g.
sg or sd) it appears to know to load scsi_mod but not then aha152x.
Double check for any typos in conf.modules (like was in mine). Then
maybe recompile the kernel so you *know* the required dependencies are
there.
Actually first off (if you haven't already) have a flick through the
scsi howto and see if anything comes to light (
http://www.ict.pwr.wroc.pl/doc/Linux-HOWTO/SCSI-HOWTO.html ).
Good luck.
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From: Bryan Crawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: newbie: Caldera won't install from ATAPI CDR
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 14:47:09 -0700
Greeting Linux Gurus.
I've taken the plunge and decided to go Linux. My previous system
(Win95)
died recently (flaky motherboard) and I decided that as long as I was
building a new system anyway, I might as well take the plunge and learn
the OS of the future.
My problem is this: The Caldera install Lizard seems to be missing my
ATAPI CDROM during it's autodetect phase, and is therefore not seeing
any devices to install from (I'm booting from the CDROM, using the
Caldera OpenLinux 2.4 install CD). I don't have windows or any other
OS on the system (just bought a new board/CPU/HD, everything and
put it together).
Clearly the CD exists and is working, because it's booting, loading the
kernel
and runing the autodetect prog fine...but the autodetect isn't seeing
the CD.
Unfortunately, I'm not at my home system, so I'll have to give you my
best recollection of the details:
ASUS Apollo mother board (new, but I can't remember the model)
Pentium III 500 CPU
128 MB ram
20 GB IBM HD (master on IDE channel 1)
4 GB Western Digital HD (master on IDE channel 2)
Pioneer 24x CDROM (oldish, but worked fine in my old system) set as
slave on IDE2
/* ^^^^^ This is the device I'm booting from on install, but I get the
same problem
when I boot from the floppy */
Voodoo3 AGP 16MB video card /* I initially thought this might be the
problem and switched it out for an old S3 PCI card, to no avail */
a USR 56k modem that I know probably won't work but shouldn't be causing
a problem at install. /* If I can't get it to work, I've got a new
modem still
in the shrink wrap that I can put in...but I might need help with that
too */
Any and all help is greatly appreciated...I need to get this system up
and
running as quickly as possible...I've got some looming deadlines...I can
fool around tweeking it to make it perfect later.
Cheers
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