Linux-Setup Digest #234, Volume #19 Mon, 24 Jul 00 11:13:06 EDT
Contents:
Re: Win2000 and Linux setup (John)
BTTV Problem (John)
Re: Linux dialing up to a NT server (Raymond Doetjes)
Re: LI problem (Aaron Phillip O'Brien)
Re: A couple NFS questions... (Barry Margolin)
Re: Change boot parameters LILO (Tony Curtis)
Re: A couple NFS questions... (Barry Margolin)
Re: HELP with script files!
Why Linux loop-device file systems appear to run slowly (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.)
Re: Cron help (Nathan Davis)
use /home/httpd/username for /~username access (Yidao Cai)
Re: How to modify the floppy boot disk after recompiling the kernel ("Tom Brinkman")
Re: A couple NFS questions... (Jeff Shipman)
Re: free isp (Richard)
Installing Zip drive (Mario Klaric)
Packages missing from RH 6.1 PowerTools Apps? (Neal Rhodes)
Re: Apache "Forbidden" error in RH 6.2 (Yidao Cai)
Re: kernel compile issues (J. Roe)
Re: A couple NFS questions... (Paul Black)
Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux (David C.)
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Win2000 and Linux setup
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:37:06 +0200
It is possible,
However, (You did not think it was that easy did you ? ;-) ),
Lilo should be installed in the first 1024 sectors of your harddrive
(some might say that it is no longer necessary, however, I still
encounter problems, so if I were you, I would do it anyway).
You should also know that Linux can read NTFS partitions
(providing that you re-compile your kernel), but that the write support
is only experimental.
Juergen Neuhoff a �crit :
> Hi,
>
> Is it possible to set up Linux (Redhat 6.2) on a machine which
> has pre-installed Windows 2000? Are there any pitfalls I need to
> know before installation?
>
> Right now there are 2 partitions:
>
> c: NTFS bootable Windows 2000 2 GBytes
> d: NTFS data Windows 2000 10 GBytes
>
> There is also another 8 GBytes free hard disk space after the NTFS
> partitions.
> There is no Partition Magic pre-installed, we were thinking about
> using LILO as a boot manager, if possible.
>
> J.Neuhoff
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From: John <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: BTTV Problem
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:40:24 +0200
Hello, I have a Miro PCTV with a BT8487 chip, which is actually
very common.
I attempted to have it run under Linux, but I cannot find anyway to do
it.
I naturally first recompiled my Kernel (2.2.16) and tried to include
BTTV support into it. It worked, the card was properly detected, but the
problem was that I could not tune. I was forced to reboot, start windows
98, tune and then reboot, load Linux and watch TV, that is a little
absurd.
Then I wondered if the tuner was set properly, so I decided to re-build
my kernel with the BTTV driver as a module, the same problem arose.
Finally I downloaded BTTV drivers from the net, built them and insmoded
them, did not work either.
Has anybody managed to have a PCTV run under Linux ?
Thanx in advance
John
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From: Raymond Doetjes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.x
Subject: Re: Linux dialing up to a NT server
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:23:55 +0200
There is a complete HOWTO available for dialing in to NT.
Microsoft has changed the default ppp-LCP o fit its own needs and that
FUCKS up things. God I hate it when people don't use standards :( Goto
www.linux.com and see there howto list it is in there. (When you have SuSE
then browse your howto dir it is in there asswell).
Raymond
Jimmy Navarro schreef:
> I was trying to connect at my work's NT server based modem pool, I get
> this persistent error 'PPP-logfile':
> //--
>
> Jul 21 06:53:39 localhost pppd[860]: pppd 2.3.11 started by root, uid 0
> Jul 21 06:53:39 localhost pppd[860]: Using interface ppp0
> Jul 21 06:53:39 localhost pppd[860]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
> Jul 21 06:53:43 localhost pppd[860]: Remote message: E=691
> Jul 21 06:53:43 localhost pppd[860]: PAP authentication failed
> Jul 21 06:53:44 localhost pppd[860]: Connection terminated.
> Jul 21 06:53:44 localhost pppd[860]: Exit.
>
> //--
>
> Any idea?
>
> --
> I am using another Red Hat 6.2 clone -- Gentus Abit Linux Release 3.0!
> Visit http://www.gentus.com for more about this Linux distribution.
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From: Aaron Phillip O'Brien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: LI problem
Date: 24 Jul 2000 23:37:39 +1000
I have tried changing:
boot = /dev/hda1
to
boot = /dev/hda
but I still get the LI problem.
Aaron
Chiefy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 23 Jul 2000 00:03:27 +1000, Aaron Phillip O'Brien did say to the dudes:
> [snip]
>>Below is my lilo.conf
>>boot = /dev/hda1
>>map = /boot/map
>>install=/boot/boot.b
>>prompt
>>timeout = 50
>>image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.2.13-4mdk
>> label = linux
>> root=/dev/hda3
>> read-only
> Hello
> Try changing to boot = /dev/hda in lilo.conf
> LGB.
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: A couple NFS questions...
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:02:38 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The description here is not at all clear. Which machine is
>> the server that has /jaz and /mp3 on it? You don't say.
>
>The first paragraph in my letter said:
>For the purposes of this 'millenia' is the server and
>'aquarius' is the client.
But then you wrote, "rsh millenia mount /jaz". You need to run the mount
command on the client, not the server, so it should be "rsh aquarius mount
/jaz".
--
Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Genuity, Burlington, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
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From: Tony Curtis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: aus.computers.linux,comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Change boot parameters LILO
Date: 24 Jul 2000 09:03:53 -0500
>> On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 17:48:47 +1000,
>> "Ken Crofts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> I tried changing LILO to that described below, and even
> made Winders default but it wouldn't boot into Windows.
> When I booted off a Window 95s floppy into DOS and ran
> Fdisk, it shows the first partition as a non-dos
> partition (ie my original Win 95 installation) Is there
> any hope of restoring this by changing location of LILO
> or is my Win95 installation history?
[ please put your new content after the text you are
replying to, it's nigh on impossible to follow what's
happening otherwise ]
Did you try using fdisk to change the partition type back
to Windows? Then boot linux and "lilo".
hth
t
--
"With $10,000, we'd be millionaires!"
Homer Simpson
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From: Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: A couple NFS questions...
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:05:29 GMT
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Jeff Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>This isn't really NFS related, but when I try typing
>in 'rsh millenia mount /jaz', I get 'Permission denied'.
>If I just 'rsh millenia', I can type in my password
>and login just fine. How can I fix this?
You need to put "aquarius" in your .login file and it will allow rsh
without a password.
If you were hoping to be prompted for a password, sorry, but the rsh
protocol doesn't have a way to do that. When you type "rsh millenia"
without a command, it's actually doing "rlogin millenia"; since rlogin goes
through the login program, it prompts for a password (unless .rlogin is
configured).
--
Barry Margolin, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Genuity, Burlington, MA
*** DON'T SEND TECHNICAL QUESTIONS DIRECTLY TO ME, post them to newsgroups.
Please DON'T copy followups to me -- I'll assume it wasn't posted to the group.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ()
Subject: Re: HELP with script files!
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:08:10 GMT
On Mon, 29 May 2000 20:15:19 GMT, The Lunatic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well thats what i'm saying. It doesn't work.
>
> I create the file in ms-dos editor.
> I send the file to the linux box using smbcleint.
> I run the chmod command on the file with no errors.
> I can look at the file in emacs /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall
> I cannot run the file /etc/rc.d/rc.firewall
>
> But if i transfer the file in ascii over a ftp connecton then it runs fine.
>
> Why is this?
It sounds like the CR/LF problem to me.
Note that emacs (as of 20.something versions I think) will put "(DOS)" as
the first thing in the buffer modeline if it encounters a dos formatted
text file... this will allow you to check this.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Victor Schneider, Ph. D.)
Subject: Why Linux loop-device file systems appear to run slowly
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:02:42 GMT
If you go into the BIOS setup of your computer, and turn off the
secondary cpu cache, then boot up Linux on an ext2 file system,
you will immediately realize that Linux is behaving as though
it's running on a badly set-up loop-device file system.
In other words, the main reason that loop-device file systems
appear to run slowly is that they clog up the secondary cache,
forcing the system to run as though the secondary cache is
disabled. That means that, to make loop-device file systems
really run fast, developers need to optimize the memory-stored
directory image of the loop devices so that it occupies a minimal
secondary cache footprint.
The other reason for slow loop-device operation, that is under the
control of users, rather than developers, is the excessive use of
terminate-and-stay-resident "demons" and sloppy sizing of the initrd
/dev/ram partition. By minimizing the initrd partition size (mine
is under 1 meg.) and by turning off all the automatic demons that are
appropriate to internet providers, but not to home users, users can
greatly speed up the operation of loop-device file systems "within
acceptable parameters".
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From: Nathan Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Cron help
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:15:24 -0500
Boyd Teders wrote:
>
> I am running Red Hat 6.0 on one machine and 6.1 on another. I am trying to
> set a cron job to run. The text from the entry is below...
>
> 30 16 * * * /usr/bin/rdate -s 192.5.41.40
>
> My plan was to have this job synchronize the time every day. But it does not
> run. Am I doing some thing wrong. Could I do this differently? Any ideas
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks
Did you submit it to crond using crontab?
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From: Yidao Cai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: use /home/httpd/username for /~username access
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:18:09 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I had a similar problem trying to hit www.myaddress.com/~username. The
.........
> It would seem that the users' home directories need to have sufficient
> permissions before Apache can get to the public_html directory inside. Of
> course, this means that eviluser can now read username's files, which I
> don't like. How do I fix *that*??
A better way to do it is probably:
1. change UsrDir in srm.conf,
UsrDir /home/httpd
2. let "username" own /home/httpd/username and grant permission 755.
In this way you don't compromise security of your own stuff.
cai
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: "Tom Brinkman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: How to modify the floppy boot disk after recompiling the kernel
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:31:38 -0600
In article <hqNe5.35419$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Ross Xu"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear there, I have recompiled my 2.2.14 kernel. But for the hard
> disk reason, my linux machine can only boot from the floppy boot
> disk. So, how can I modify the floppy disk after recompiling the
> kernel? I copied the new kernel bzImage to the floppy disk as
> original kernel name. But when I booted from the floppy disk, I
> got an error message:
>
> boot: loading linux......... Uncompressing Linux... ran out of
> input data
> --System halted
>
> What is the problem? How can I do?
>
> Thank you in advance. Ross
>
>
as root, mkbootdisk $(uname -r)
This will make a boot disk using the currenly running kernel
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~~ Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: Jeff Shipman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: A couple NFS questions...
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 08:35:20 -0600
> But then you wrote, "rsh millenia mount /jaz". You need to run the mount
> command on the client, not the server, so it should be "rsh aquarius mount
> /jaz".
Yes, but the removable disk must be mounted on the server
before it can be mounted on the client. I do see how this
can cause confusion though, so I'm sorry. First, I mount
the jaz disk on the server, and then I mount it on
the client. When I umount it on the client and then go
back to umount it on the server, I get a message saying
the device is busy...
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| Homepage: http://www.nmt.edu/~shippy |
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Subject: Re: free isp
From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux.mandrake
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 07:36:32 -0700
When I set up the freeatlast account in Win95, I had to use two
IDs and passwords. The first is a "dialer" ID/password that they
assigned when I registered. The second is a user account
ID/password that I chose. I tried all combinations of these
ID/passwords that I could think of using KPPP, but can't get it
to work. I get a connection, but then get disconnected after a
few seconds. Which ID/password are you using -- the "dialer"
ID/password that they assigned, or the "user account"
ID/password that you chose?
Thanks,
Dick
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From: Mario Klaric <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Installing Zip drive
Date: 24 Jul 2000 10:40:11 EDT
Hi,
I tried installing Zip drive on my Red Hat Linux box. The kernel was
already configured for it, with the following:
SCSI Support - SCSI support - Y, SCSI disk support - Y
SCSI Low-Level Drivers - IOMEGA Parallel Port ZIP drive SCSI support
- M
Character Devices - Parallel Printer support - M
I created directory /zip. When I did insmod ppa I got
# insmod ppa
ppa: Version 1.42
ppa: Probing port 03bc
ppa: Probing port 0378
ppa: SPP port present
ppa: PS/2 bidirectional port present
ppa: EPP 1.7
ppa: Probing port 0278
SCSI: 0 hosts.
/lib/modules/preferred/scsi/ppa.o init_module: Device or resource busy.
Can anyone help me, please? What am I missing?
Thanx a lot.
Mario
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Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:42:59 -0400
From: Neal Rhodes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Packages missing from RH 6.1 PowerTools Apps?
Running 6.1 RH and mostly loving it.
I ran GNORPM on the PowerTools Apps CD, picked a number of networking
analysis type packages, and attempted to install them. RPM griped
about missing the following packages: (my approximation)
perl-period
perl-timedate
perl-timehires
perl-mon
convertber
libsmnp.o
lesstif
libXm.so.2
gtkglarea
libMesaGL.so.3
libMesaGLU.so.3
libgtkgl.so.4
I couldn't find any packages like that either on the PowerTools CD,
nor the 6.1 install CD. Did I miss something?
What is the approach one should take to installing? Is there a way
of installing anyway, then when I do find the correct media getting
rpm to patch things up?
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From: Yidao Cai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Apache "Forbidden" error in RH 6.2
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 09:25:16 -0500
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It seems a configuration problem. I would a a standard access.conf first
(do not change anything). Either reinstall apache or post your existing
access.conf.
cai
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email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: J. Roe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: kernel compile issues
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 14:50:03 GMT
> I am not saying to go out and try a 2.2.16; but that would be an
interesting experiment.
> You really could try this by downloading the latest sources, compile a
2.2.16 kernel
I think I'm gonna try this and see what happens. I'm assuming that
2.2.16 is the most recent/stable kernel version available.
Wish me luck.
>
> The other followup poster's advice about doing some detective work on
the modules
> loading is good advice.
yes, I did get lots of good advice from everyone. I do appreciate all
the help. I wish I knew more about linux then I know now.
--
Janine Roe
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...the more i learn, the less i know about before
the less i know, the more i want to look around...
Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.
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From: Paul Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.protocols.nfs
Subject: Re: A couple NFS questions...
Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 15:56:36 +0100
Barry Margolin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You need to put "aquarius" in your .login file and it will allow rsh
> without a password.
And spell the .login filename as .rhosts.
Paul
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David C.)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware
Subject: Re: Please help me evaluate this hardware's compatability with Linux
Date: 24 Jul 2000 11:06:58 -0400
phil ossifer writes:
> David C. wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there such a thing as a "winmotherboard, a winchipset, a
>>> winbios", and if there is did I just buy one?
>>
>> Not that I know of.
>>
>> As for the BIOS and chipset, absolutely not. How could you have one
>> that requires an OS. These parts must be active and working before
>> the OS loads. That's how your computer boots.
>
> Well, the motherboard comes with a bunch of (W9x/NT -only) utilities
> and drivers.
Because the Microsoft CDs for Win9x/NT don't include drivers. It
doesn't mean the hardware is Windows specific.
> One of the drivers is for busmastering (if I recall correctly). it
> was needed to get the best performanc out of the on-board hard drive
> controller.
Because Microsoft CDs _STILL_ don't include support for UDMA
controllers. The hardware will work with plenty of other operating
systems.
(Linux supports UDMA/33 right now. The 2.3 kernel under development
supports UDMA/66.)
> Others presumably access the "soft off" feature (where the system can
> be awoken by a modem ring, or at a specific time, etc.)
No. This is a BIOS thing. If Windows detects APM (power management)
facilities, it will automatically do power-off at shutdown time. Linux
will do this if you install and run apmd (the power management daemon).
As for wake-on-ring and wake-on-lan, these are hardware features,
configured by your BIOS. Your operating system drivers don't come into
play. Again, think about it - these features are designed to work when
the CPU is powered off. How the heck would a device driver affect this?
> I guess there's utilities to set various BIOS options.
These are always done through programs in ROM these days. Press a
hotkey (which will depend on BIOS vendor) during the POST to run it.
> As I said, VIA had a DOS version of the busmastering driver on its web
> site, but no mention of anything for Linux.
Because DOS doesn't use device drivers for disk. It exclusively uses
BIOS calls if you don't install your own device driver.
Linux already has this support built-in. Why do you care whether the
motherboard vendor includes a copy of the driver with your motherboard?
> What I fear is the same kind of stonewalling on the information to
> write configuration utilities and drivers that the guys wanting to
> write Linux drivers for winmodems ran into.
Good thing you're asking here. Now you know otherwise, and you can stop
being afraid of shadows.
>>> Do I have a winharddrive, a wincdrom, a wimvideo board?
>>
>> Aside from modems, the only common "windows only" devices out there
>> are printers.
>
> Well if the manufacurers are mute about how to access their
> "acceleration" features, higher than standard VGA resolutions, and
> other features of the card, and there are only W9x/NT drivers for the
> card, that effectively makes it a winvideocard, no?
No. A so-called "win-" device is one that is completely useless without
an operating system running appropriate driver software.
Undocumented features are just that - undocumented features.
Your video card will produce a signal regardless of the operating system
that's running on it. You don't lose your picture when system load
prevents the video driver from getting enough CPU cycles.
As for unsupported hardware, deal with it. As long as people continue
creating new hardware, there will be some of it that isn't supported by
your favorite operating system (whatever that is). There's nothing you
can do about this. You have two choices here - make a point of checking
for compatibility before you buy something, or let Microsoft make all
your purchasing decisions for you.
Complaining to people who are powerless to change anything is complete
futility. The people developing Linux device drivers would love to have
everything supported. But they can't do it without the hardware specs,
and no amount of pressure put on them can change that.
-- David
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