Linux-Setup Digest #242, Volume #19              Tue, 25 Jul 00 15:13:12 EDT

Contents:
  disabling the PC bell sound ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Re: environment var's in linux (Nathan Davis)
  Re: getting started (The Contact)
  Re: Sendmail (Mark)
  Groups and file permissions ("Ty Hudson")
  Re: Partition Magic question (Juergen Neuhoff)
  lpr with symbolic link not working: Help! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Disabling Sound Card? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Amquest Hardware modem w/Redhat 6.1 (JM)
  Re: keyboard number pad not working
  File structure of SUSE CD roms 1 and 2 (Richard)
  PAM Problems...? ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
  Installing Linux on dedicated SCSI hard drive ("Mashooq Badar")
  disappearing server ("Ray Mansell")
  Re: Partition Magic question ("Danny")
  Re: I want Linux (DeAnn Iwan)
  Damaged System Library Setup (Marshall Lake)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: disabling the PC bell sound
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:02:10 GMT

Hi,

Just installed RH-6.1, but I keep getting the anoying bell sound when I
am typing from the command line, (ie: saving a files etc...)
How can I disable this.
I have looked at my PC setup, and there is nothing there to stop
the bell sounding. Even if I have to disable the sound altogether,
that's
OK , but how do I do it. I am using an Apricot ls.


Thanks
Lousie


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From: Nathan Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: environment var's in linux
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:11:27 -0500

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> I have used the export command like so
> 
> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/jdk118
> 
> and
> 
> export CLASSPATH=.:JAVA_HOME:/lib/classes.zip
> 
> and once I run these, I can use
> 
> javac to compile .java programs and run them.
> 
> The problem is, every time I boot up my machine, I seem to have to run
> these. is there any way to make this a permanent situation?
> 
> Thanks - John
> 
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> Before you buy.

Add the commands to .bashrc

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From: The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: getting started
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:33:30 GMT

"Thomas C. Waters" wrote:
> 
> Thanks.  I want to run WebEvent with linux.  I have the mandrakelinux 6.0
> operating system.  At this time, I don't want to offer any services except
> the use of Webevent.  I am aware that security is a big deal and important to
> addess.

Well, first of all you should configure the TCP/IP-settings of your
linux-pc. Mandrake has a good tutorial about that on their site:
http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/Networking/NetBasics/pages/

Then you have to install a webserver (WebEvent requires a webserver
capable of running Perl CGI-scripts). I recommend Apache (not because I
have experience with installing this - I don't - but because of the
widly spread and good support).
For information about how to install Apache on Linux (and other
Apache-related documentation): http://www.apache.org/docs/.

After that, you install WebEvents. I didn't find any good information
about it on their website - maybe it is as simple as nothing. What you
could do is read their UNIX_README
(http://www.webevent.com/support/installdocs/UNIX_README.txt). It isn't
very good, but if nothing goes wrong, this should be enough...

-- 
The Contact
"There is only one program that Microsoft made that can be called
'succesfull': FORMAT.COM".
[- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -]

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark)
Subject: Re: Sendmail
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:38:32 GMT

it really depends on the overall mail setup but:
if you only have one domain you can
a. use a .forward file in teh users home directory eg.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] will be delivered to mark (the user)
if as mark you
cd ~
cat > .forward
mark,
john
^d
chmod 600 .forward  
you should have mail for [EMAIL PROTECTED]
delivered to both mark and john
if you left mark out of the .forward you should have mail only go to
john 
and if you added [EMAIL PROTECTED]
it sould go there also 
NOTE the "," at the end of each line exept the last one.

Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

You can also use virtusertable if you have multiple domains but you
would want to read sendmail by O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
check that the book includes your version of sendmail. as there is
more than one edition of this book.

Mark
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 00:21:10 +0200, "mary" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>How I forward any message just arrived on one email address to another
>address? I use Sendmail and Linux OS.
>Tank's
>
>


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From: "Ty Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Groups and file permissions
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:39:41 -0500

Hello,

    One thing that I have found disconcerting in moving from netware to
linux is the inability to associate multiple groups with a file or
directory.  Is this possible?  There has to be a way of organizing things
through linux that I have yet to discover.  If I have groups 1, 2, 3, and 4;
how would I create a directory that is visible by both users in groups 1 and
2 but not 3 and 4.  I know I can have users assigned to multiple groups but
I would not want to have all the files that group 1 has access to available
to group 2.  Am I making sense?  If there is a web site or some document
that goes over just plain file organization schemes in linux, that would be
very helpful.  Any suggestions are appreciated.

later,

Ty



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From: Juergen Neuhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Partition Magic question
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:41:26 +0100

Danny wrote:

> I've had PM 4 trash an Ext2 filesystem when it resized it.  The damage is
> very subtle.  Everything appears okay.  Even an fsck right after the resize
> doesn't indicate any problems.  But over a couple weeks I started noticing
> strange screwy things going on in my system.  When I fsck'ed the /usr
> partition again, it was screwed, and couldn't be fixed.

What is an Ext2 ? Is it an partition id=7 ? Or are talking about logical
extended partitions?

J.Neuhoff



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: lpr with symbolic link not working: Help!
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 16:47:08 GMT

I am running Corel 1.1, upgraded to kernel 2.2.16.

I have successfully installed two hard drives.  One is 4gb, the other
is 45 gb.  System files are stored on the 4gb, Postscript files are
stored on the 45gb drive.  I am trying to use this system to raw print
huge Postscript files to a networked color laser printer using an HP
Jetdirect card.

Using the command "lpr file1.ps" successfully queues the file and sends
it to the printer.  All is well.  However, I want to use the "-s"
option for lpr because these files are 500mb each or more, and I want
to queue several copies to run overnight.

"lpr -s file1.ps" results in nothing.  If the printer is "asleep," it
will come out of this mode, but no printout otherwise.

I have (seemingly) successly moved the print spool directory to the
45gb drive my modifying the /etc/printcap file.  I figured that the
spool file would need to be on the same drive as the files in order for
the symbolic link to work.  I verified that files are queued there, and
set appropriate permissions.

Any guess as to why lpr would work fine, but die when using the "-s"
option?  Thanks.  It's version 1:0.48-0.slink2, installed from a
Debian .DEB file.

FWIW, the "-#" (number of copies) option also seems broken on lpr, but
this is not an important feature to me.  I can duplicate its funciton
in a shell script.

Thanks for any help or suggestions.




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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Disabling Sound Card?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:00:01 GMT

Hello

I have inherited a server running Red Hat Linux release 5.1 (Manhattan)
with 2 sound cards (for audio streaming) - The first card is taking
input from a radio tuner - the 2nd card is only present for historical
reasons and isn't connected to anything

For some unknown reason the encoding software occasionaly seems to
switch over to listening to the 2nd card

Is there some way of disabling the 2nd card at boot time (the machine
is at a remote location so I don't (easily) have the option of
physically removing the card)

David


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From: JM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.hardware,comp.os.linux.networking,linux.redhat.ppp
Subject: Amquest Hardware modem w/Redhat 6.1
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:09:06 GMT

Hello,

I finally got the OS to sort of recognize the modem by turning off the
PNP OS option in the BIOS and enabling the COM1 port in the BIOS.  It
didn't have to be enabled for Windows for whatever reason.  The Amquest
hardware modem has a Rockwell chipset, I think.  Anyway, both rp3-
config and kppp seem to hand up or error when trying to initialize the
modem.  The modem device is set to to /dev/ttyS0 (all other settings
say the modem is busy or something).  With kppp, I get a "Modem Ready"
message until I try to connect.  Then it sits there.  The kppp terminal
won't let me type at all.  Shouldn't AT&F or ATZ work for an init
string?  Any help would be appreciated.

Also, if I leave the COM1 port enabled in the BIOS, I think Windows
tries to shuffle ports and reinstall hardware, etc. when I do this.  If
I disable the com/serial ports in the BIOS, then Windows puts the
modmem on COM1.  If I enable COM1 in the BIOS, then the modem gets
shoved to COM3.  But I digress . .

TIA,

JM


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From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: keyboard number pad not working
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:30:04 GMT


The Contact wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > i have a microsoft natural keyboard elite
> > just cant get the number pad to work
> > any suggestions???
> 
> Press 'Num Lock'.
> 
> -- 
> The Contact
> "There is only one program that Microsoft made that can be called
> 'succesfull': FORMAT.COM".
> [- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -]

Thanks for the reply 
I did try that----dont work
thought it was maybe an install prob--I chose American standard 101/102 
keyboard (i think).
any other suggestions?


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From: Richard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: File structure of SUSE CD roms 1 and 2
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:40:08 +0100

Can anyone send a map of the directory structure of the SUSE cd roms 1
and 2?

Thanks

Richard


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PAM Problems...?
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:44:04 GMT

Hello,

I recently installed the new PAM package (pam-0.72-20.i386.rpm) on my
Redat 6.2 machine running kernel version 2.2.16-3smp.  All seems fine,
but I have noticed these types of messages in my /var/log/messages file
whenever I telnet into the machine:

pam_console[1148]: can't find device or X11 socket to examine for 2
inetd[512]: pid 1147: exit status 1

Any ideas on what might be causing this?  Is it anything to be alarmed
about?

Thanks,
--Pete


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From: "Mashooq Badar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Installing Linux on dedicated SCSI hard drive
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:53:35 +0100

Hi,

I am new to Linux and want to install SUSE Linux on my machine. I have three
scsi hard drives in my machine SCSI ID:0 and SCSI ID 2 are being used for my
NT installation but SCSI ID:1 is an 18 gig drive which I want to install
Linux on. I don't want to use Lilo because it will interfere with the NT's
master boot block. Is there a way of installing Linux so that it will be
totally isolated from my NT installation?

Thanks.

~ mash ~


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Reply-To: "Ray Mansell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
From: "Ray Mansell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: disappearing server
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 17:55:18 GMT

I have installed RedHat Linux 6.0 (from the box with the CD) on an old PC I
have.  The strangest thing is happening - all server functions occasionally
cease from remotely.  No telnet, ftp, http, etc.  I can successfully ping
the server remotely when this happens, and I can also log on to the machine
locally and nothing strange appears in the logs.  Restarting the machine
fixes the problem.  Sometimes it will go for days or weeks without a hitch,
and sometimes (like today) it might only last 30 minutes.  I just
reformatted the drive and did a clean reinstall this past weekend hoping to
make some progress, but it's still doing the same thing.  Any chance that it
could be an IP address conflict?  If so, why would a restart fix it.  Here
are some of the specifics:

It is on a 10BaseT Ethernet LAN managed by my apartment complex.  There is a
DHCP server on the network, but I have been given a static IP address for my
server and I don't use DHCP.  My server has a 3Com 3C509 EtherLink III card
that I bought brand new a few months ago.

The hardware is a 133 MHz Pentium with 80 MB RAM and plenty of free hard
drive space.  It has a standard monitor, keyboard & mouse.  It has a Toshiba
CD-ROM and it has a sound card but I don't think it will run under Linux so
I didn't bother installing any drivers for it.  No SCSI drives, tape drives,
printers, or any other kinds of peripherals.  One hard disk with maybe 1 or
2 GB - but I'm not even using a quarter of that.  Overall a pretty simple
hardware setup.  I'm not using it for anything other than HTTP and FTP, so
I'm not trying to do anything nifty with it.

Any feedback would be extremely appreciated.  I just don't know what to do
with the thing next - I'm really just a novice in terms of Linux compared to
most of you.

Thanks,
Ray...



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From: "Danny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Partition Magic question
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 13:18:44 -0500


Juergen Neuhoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

> What is an Ext2 ? Is it an partition id=7 ? Or are talking about logical
> extended partitions?
>


By Ext2, I mean the popular commonly used filesystem for Linux.   (I don't
have reference material handy, but I think that Ext2 is either type 82 or
83?  Could be wrong on that.)

DOS/Windows uses FAT16 or FAT32.  Windows NT or Win 2000 uses NTFS.  Well,
Linux users commonly use Ext2 -- although Linux is capable of working with a
number of different filesystems.

What I'm saying is that I had a partition containing an Ext2 filesystem for
Linux.  I resized it (expanded) using PM4.  And subtle problems very quickly
developed.  Almost immediately.  At first they were so subtle that I could
just ignore them.  (If you've used Mac/Windows for a long time, sometimes
you ignore little things because you expect your system to suffer a certian
amount of problems.  After all, it's an operating system, right?  So it must
have little problems.)  Within a week, strange unexplainable things were
happening -- like filenames suddenly changing, links that didn't link, etc.

Danny






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From: DeAnn Iwan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: I want Linux
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2000 14:43:47 -0400



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> What version (and supplier) of Linux is capable of running on the
> following PC
> Tulip P75
> 32Mb Ram
> Cirrus Logic 2Mb G.Card (inbuilt)
> 2 hard drives 500 Mb each
> cheap 16 bit sound card
> I have tried Corel and Redhat both unsucesfully, either it's me or I am
> trying to install to modern a version on such an old machine.
> please help...(sick of windows)
> 
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    I've installed on older machines with less disk space.  It helps to
use the text installer for RH (or Suse, etc.) as the newer GUI
installers bulk at 32 MB RAM.  It also helps to limit the packages you
choose to a small installation.  Minimum installs for RH, Suse, Corel,
etc. are 100-150 MB  (Slackware and Debian have much smaller minimum
installs).  Then add more packages as you find you need them.  Both RH
and Corel (a Debian variant)--and Suse, BTW---have good package managers
that make later additions easy.   

     Most full distributions are larger than 500-1000 MB these days
(because they have so many spiffy packages available).  So, although you
can get a mini distribution that will fit on 1 to a few 3-1/2" floppies,
you will find you have to do some careful trimming of a default install
to have it fit well into 2 500 MB segments.  I'd suggest some thoughtful
partitioning ahead of time, and choosing a small installation.  Choosing
packages can be a bit intimidating for a newbie who has no idea what
initd, nfsd, or even x11 is.  So just going with the default smallest
installation availble would be a reasonable beginning.  Like I said,
both Corel (Debian) and RH have package installers that make adding
things "easy".

    I would suggest using one hd for either /usr or a root containing
/usr (/ without a separate /usr), and using the other to separate out
swap, /var, /home, and anything else you want EXCEPT /usr.  This will
put the bulk of your primary system on one drive (in /usr and to a
lesser extent /), and everything else on the other drive.  Linux puts
most "stuff" under either / or /usr.  Temporary files like log files and
downloads go under /var (especially if /tmp links to /var).  /home is
for your stuff.  Be generous with swap (maybe 64 to 120 MB).  Do not be
afraid to try a partitioning scheme, see how it works, then decide to
change it and reinstall if you are way off base.  For example

  hda1    /usr (500 MB)
  hdb1    swap (100 MB)
  hdb2    /home (100 MB)
  hdb3    /    (300 MB)

  Unfortunately, usage varies so widely that it is hard to give a "good"
default partitioning scheme for the average user.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marshall Lake)
Subject: Damaged System Library Setup
Date: 25 Jul 2000 19:06:26 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'm hoping someone can give me some direction.

I recently tried to make the move to glibc2.  The compile and installation
seemed to go ok but apparently I screwed up somehow.  After upgrading
I find that certain programs are having a problem determining "host".
And I also find I cannot use the readir function properly.  There are
probably other things broken.

I tried to "deinstall" the new library by removing things by hand.
Afterwards I ran ldconfig.  But now certain programs I run are looking
for /usr/local/lib/ld-linux.so.2 and not finding it at runtime.  I can
even compile a program on another system with an older library where it
runs fine.  But if I bring the executable over to the broken system it
still looks for ld-linux.so.2 and does not run properly.

I guess I don't understand the process well enough.  Did I irreparably
damage my system?  If not, can someone tell me how to fix things?

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