Linux-Setup Digest #247, Volume #19 Wed, 26 Jul 00 04:13:10 EDT
Contents:
Re: Installation from ParPort CD-ROM (Davide Bianchi)
Re: disabling the PC bell sound ("Carl R. Thorpe")
Re: LILO 2 disk drives, Linux works Windows Crashes (Davide Bianchi)
Re: RH6.2 Installation got stuck ! (Davide Bianchi)
Re: Groups and file permissions (Davide Bianchi)
Re: kernel compiling and LILO.conf (Davide Bianchi)
Re: numlock (Thomas Zajic)
Re: Gnome and the x-screensaver (Kousik Nandy)
Re: Help! Wierd messages! ("Adam H.")
Anyone know of any ISP trade magazines? ("Lamar Thomas")
Re: Installing Linux on dedicated SCSI hard drive (Doc Shipley)
Modem Setup Difficulty ("David R. Betz")
Re: How to modify the floppy boot disk after recompiling the kernel (Villy Kruse)
shortcuts (Martin)
Re: Gnome GUI Login Prompt Problems (Mike Gifford)
Re: apache autostart on boot? (J Sloan)
Re: 3com 3c509b driver ("A.P.")
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Installation from ParPort CD-ROM
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:09:04 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 26 Jul 2000 02:38:56 GMT, "Jon McLin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>An associate has been unsuccessfully attempting to install Linux (RH 6.0)
>on an older machine using a parallel port CD (a BackPacker, I believe). I
>pointed him to a few online resources such as the Parallel Port HowTo, and
>the "Installing from Zip" HowTo, but he's still struggling.
>
>Any helpful suggestions: links, or distributions which will sucessfully
>install from a ParPort CD-ROM?
I think that the shipped kernel does not contains the required
drivers. AFAIK, the only solution is: start the machine with a DOS
boot disk with the required CDRom drivers, create a temporary
DOS partition on the machine, copy all the required distribution
files into the partition and install Linux from that partition, then
recompile the kernel and add the drivers to access the CDRom.
Davide
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From: "Carl R. Thorpe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: disabling the PC bell sound
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 00:44:20 -0500
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:8lkdlt$ppb$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hi,
>
> Just installed RH-6.1, but I keep getting the anoying bell sound when I
> am typing from the command line, (ie: saving a files etc...)
> How can I disable this.
> I have looked at my PC setup, and there is nothing there to stop
> the bell sounding. Even if I have to disable the sound altogether,
> that's
> OK , but how do I do it. I am using an Apricot ls.
edit /etc/inputrc and insert this line
set bell-style visible
CRT
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Crossposted-To: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: LILO 2 disk drives, Linux works Windows Crashes
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 02:10:11 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>Got two separate disk drives in my computer, one with Linux installed
>the other with windows 98.
>Trying to setup the LILO config with the primary master as linux,
>and primary slave as windows. What is the lilo config requirements
>to achieve this?
>currently works fine to get into linux, but
>crashes when attempting to go to windows.
>The only way to boot to windows presently is via boot floppy disk.
>UGH!
>
>Thanks in advance,
AFAIK, Windows is not able to boot from a non-primary disk, I think
you have to switch disks: the primary Windows and the secondary
Linux.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: RH6.2 Installation got stuck !
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:12:01 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:07:34 +0200, "OhadBC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hi !
>
>I'm trying to install the RedHat 6.2 on a clean HD but right after it
>finishes to install all of its
>packages, it goes stuck while displaying "Performing post install
>configuration...".
>Any idea ??
>thx, ohad.
The only thing I can think is a problem with the hardware probing.
Try disabilitate/remove all the unnecessary hardware.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Subject: Re: Groups and file permissions
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:15:19 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 11:39:41 -0500, "Ty Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>Hello,
>
> One thing that I have found disconcerting in moving from netware to
>linux is the inability to associate multiple groups with a file or
>directory. Is this possible?
No, each file/directory has 1 set of permissione for the owner,
1 set for 1 group and 1 set for "everybody else".
>If I have groups 1, 2, 3, and 4;
>how would I create a directory that is visible by both users in groups 1 and
>2 but not 3 and 4.
You have to create a new group, and then put into it all the user of
group 1 and 2. Then give the correct right to the file for that group.
>If there is a web site or some document
>that goes over just plain file organization schemes in linux, that would be
>very helpful. Any suggestions are appreciated.
I found very interesting a manual about security in Unix (not specific
about Linux...). I suppose you can found a dozen like that in your
bookstore.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Davide Bianchi)
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.development.system
Subject: Re: kernel compiling and LILO.conf
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:18:50 GMT
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 23:22:53 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Hi,
>
> 2 questions
>
> 1. I am adding some code to the ELF section of the kernel and am just
>exploring some options about recompilaion of the kernel. I've heard that
>you can have sections of the kernel as modules and just compile and add
>them to a running kernel. is this possible with the ELF bianry format
>code?
I don't think so. AFAIK, the binaries support is not "modular", only
device drivers and filesystem support is modular. But I can be wrong,
so check during the compilation.
> 2. All the discussions I see say religiously " make a emergeny boot
>floppy disk with the old kernel image" when compiling and running a new
>kernel. I would like to know if it is posible just to use the lilo.conf
>file and specify two boot options. ne for the old kernel and one for the
>new kernel. That way if the new kernel stuffs up then I can jsut reboot
>and use the old kernel by pressing TAB at the boot prompt.
Yes, you can configure LILO with multiple kernel, but if something
goes VEEERY WRONG, you can be unable to access the / partition, this
will rendere unusable the system, *unless* you have an old-good
boot disk that allow you to re-enter the system and fix the problem.
>eg.
> A sample section from a lilo.conf file... would this work?
<ZAP>
Look fine to me.
Davide
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Subject: Re: numlock
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Zajic)
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 06:23:26 GMT
On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 12:38:15 +0800, Peter Utting wrote:
> How do you start up X with numlock on. My mandrake 7 linux boots up
> into a terminal with numlock on, but when moving into the GUI, (KDE),
> numlock is off.
<http://freshmeat.net/appindex/2000/04/03/954790329.html>
HTH,
Thomas
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kousik Nandy)
Subject: Re: Gnome and the x-screensaver
Date: 26 Jul 2000 06:37:56 GMT
On Mon, 24 Jul 2000 12:02:49 -0500, Scott Smith wrote:
> Does anyone know how to add a screensaver to the x-screensaver program?
>
> I contacted the person who wrote x-screensaver (or at least helped) and
> he said "YES, man xscreensaver". Well I looked through the man pages,
JWZ was right! Fire up "man xscreensaver" and go through the section
"programs (class Programs)" carefully.
HTH,
-Kousik.
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From: "Adam H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Help! Wierd messages!
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 17:00:11 +1000
The Contact <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> "Adam H." wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've just installed a second drive into my RH6.2 box, and I'm getting
these
> > wierd messages. Should
> > I be really concerned about these, and how can I stop them?
>
> I think it would be wise to check your filesystem... (man fsck).
Right. I ended up having to reboot my computer (I was unable to shut it down
properly,
so it was forced.) On bootup, it wouldn't load all the daemons, but I was
able to run
fsck manually. It reported some errors, and corrected them, and I haven't
had any
problems since.
However - does it sound like I have a crook disk drive (HDD), or is it only
the file
system that was the problem?
TIA
Adam
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From: "Lamar Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Anyone know of any ISP trade magazines?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:02:01 GMT
I am about to start up an new ISP service in our area and would just like to
know if there are any ISP trade magazines out there. Thanks for your help.
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From: Doc Shipley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: alt.comp.linux,alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Installing Linux on dedicated SCSI hard drive
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:03:50 GMT
Mashooq Badar wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am new to Linux and want to install SUSE Linux on my machine. I have three
> scsi hard drives in my machine SCSI ID:0 and SCSI ID 2 are being used for my
> NT installation but SCSI ID:1 is an 18 gig drive which I want to install
> Linux on. I don't want to use Lilo because it will interfere with the NT's
> master boot block. Is there a way of installing Linux so that it will be
> totally isolated from my NT installation?
I think there's a HOWTO, but I diremember its name. So here's the quick rundown.
If you're running NT on a FAT filesystem, just install LILO on the MBR, and tell the
Linux
installer NT is a DOS partition, and you want to be able to boot it. This will NOT
interfere with
your NT operation.
Install Linux on ID:1 when the installer asks where to install LILO tell it the boot
block or boot
sector of the Linux root partition. If your Linux installer offers to make a bootdisk,
do so. Then,
before you reboot, do these things:
mount a DOS-formatted floppy. NOT your bootdisk ;o)
# mount -t vfat /mnt/floppy # or /floppy on a SuSE install
then copy the boot sector to a file on the floppy. Assuming "/" is /dev/sdb1;
# dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/mnt/floppy/bootsect.lnx bs=512 count=1
unmount the floppy
# umount /mnt/floppy
Boot into NT. Right click on C:\boot.ini, choose "Properties" and unclick "Read Only"
Leave this
window open. Double-click on boot.ini and add this line last:
C:\BOOTSECT.LNX="Linux"
Save it, close it, make it read-only again. Then copy the file you made on floppy
(bootsect.lnx) to
C:\
When you reboot to NT, you should be able to choose "Linux"
Remember that anytime you recompile your kernel or edit /etc/lilo.conf, you need to do
all that
again.
--
Doc Shipley
Network Stuff
Austin, Earth
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From: "David R. Betz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Modem Setup Difficulty
Date: 26 Jul 2000 07:15:09 GMT
I have recently purchased an Actiontec 56K modem to replace my ancient 28.8 modem.
Until the installation of my new moden, I haven't had too many problems getting my ppp
connection to my ISP to redial after my connection was closed, but now, I am having
this difficulty.
I am running a Linux box with kernel version 2.2.14. I am using the demand dial option
of pppd to bring up my connection whenever I need it.
I have been noticing, with the new modem, that when I leave the connection down for a
long length of time (> 2 minutes - OK not "long" in some realms of belief), my serial
settings for my modem gets hosed. Currently, I run setserial <device parameters> in my
rc.serial script, which initializeds my ttyS1 serial port that my modem is hanging off
of.
I can then initiate my ppp connection and everything is just fine. If the link goes
down ad I immediately attempt to re-establish my connection, again, everything is just
fine.
The problem only occurs if I keep the link down after a few minutes or so (only after
the initial link has been established and disconnected).
I did notice in my logs that it is running setserial without any parameters (which is
most likely where my serial settings are getting trashed) just before the ppp link is
brought back up, but obviously, nothing happens until I reset the serial device to the
correct parameters.
The following is the exact message from my /var/log/messages...
Jul 25 23:45:22 kokomaht kernel: Serial driver version 4.27 with no serial optio
ns enabled
Jul 25 23:45:22 kokomaht kernel: ttyS00 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450
Why is "setserial" being run again and where can I insert the parameters so that when
it does run setserial, it inserts the parameters that I want it to?
Any help would be appreciated.
David
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Villy Kruse)
Subject: Re: How to modify the floppy boot disk after recompiling the kernel
Date: 26 Jul 2000 07:27:53 GMT
On Tue, 25 Jul 2000 18:04:10 -0500,
David .. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>The attached HTML file is how I do it on my systems.
>
To bad your message got lost in the noise.
>Hope it helps.
>--
>Confucius say: He who play in root, eventually kill tree.
>Registered with the Linux Counter. http://counter.li.org
>ID # 123538
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> <meta name="Author" content="David Barnett">
> <meta name="GENERATOR" content="Mozilla/4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686)
>[Netscape]">
> <title>Compile a custom built kernel starting with source RPM's</title>
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><body text="#000000" bgcolor="#CCCCCC" link="#0000EE" vlink="#CC33CC" alink="#FF0000">
>
><center><a NAME="Compile a Custom Built Kernel"></a><b><tt><font
>color="#CC0000"><font size=+3>Compile
>a Custom Built Kernel</font></font></tt></b>
><br><b><tt><font color="#CC0000"><font size=+3>Starting with Source
>RPMS</font></font></tt></b>
><br><tt><font size=-2>Author: David Barnett</font></tt>
><br><tt><font size=-2>April 4, 2000</font></tt></center>
><tt></tt>
><p><tt> This document will take you through the steps
>to compile and replace the kernel with a custom built kernel for your specific
>system. It was written in an effort to help document and contribute back
>to the Open Source Community.</tt><tt></tt>
><p><tt> Permission to use, copy, modify and distribute
>the "Compile a Custom Built Kernel Starting with Source RPMS" documentation
>for any purpose and without fee is hereby granted in perpetuity, provided
>that the above Author notice appear in all copies. The Author makes
>no representation about the suitability of this document for any purpose.
>It is provided "as is" without expressed or implied warranty.</tt><tt></tt>
><p><tt> It is written on a Home built system with Dual
>
> ... rest deleted
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From: Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: shortcuts
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:30:06 GMT
hello,
I don't know how to add shortcuts to my desktop or how to to configure my
startmenu.
Thanks for helping
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From: Mike Gifford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: Gnome GUI Login Prompt Problems
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:46:32 GMT
Hi EJ,
> Don't know. To find out your problems:
> $ cat $HOME/.xsession-errors
> $ cat $HOME/..gnomerc-errors
Well, I did this, and I got a whole stack of errors. None of which make
any sense to me. Can you tell anything from here what might be the
problem? Looks like there might be a number of them. Before running
these, I reset the passwords for two of my accounts (not mike though,
this is the one that I am using now and it works fine), and then got out
to the GUI and tried to login. When that didn't work I went back to one
of the two logins that does work (mike) and then ran this from the
console.
Thanks for your help. This is an annoying problem.
Mike
bash$ cat .gnomerc-errors
SESSION_MANAGER=local/office:/tmp/.ICE-unix/1856
gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 0.1.52 starting...
gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.9.4
gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of devices is configured to 0
gpilotd-WARNING **: No accessible devices available
gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of pilots is configured to 0
subshell.c: couldn't get terminal settings: Inappropriate ioctl for
device
** WARNING **: get_task_root_and_frame(): task window id 75503556
invalid?
** WARNING **: get_task_root_and_frame(): task window id 75503556
invalid?
** WARNING **: get_task_root_and_frame(): task window id 75554899
invalid?
** WARNING **: get_task_root_and_frame(): task window id 75554899
invalid?
rm: cannot remove `/home/mike/.gnome//gmc-o3iPKc': No such file or
directory
Gdk-ERROR **: X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server
shutdown).
bash$ cat .xsession-errors
/etc/X11/xdm/Xsession: [: too many arguments
SESSION_MANAGER=local/office:/tmp/.ICE-unix/939
gpilotd-Message: gnome-pilot 0.1.52 starting...
gpilotd-Message: compiled for pilot-link version 0.9.4
gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of devices is configured to 0
gpilotd-WARNING **: No accessible devices available
gpilotd-WARNING **: Number of pilots is configured to 0
subshell.c: couldn't get terminal settings: Inappropriate ioctl for
device
> Mike Gifford wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I've got a problem with the GUI Login for GNOME. I like the flexibility
> > of it, however for all but two users on my computer, when I log in it
> > jumps back to the login screen rather than proceeding to the windows
> > environment.
> >
> > I know that I am using the proper passwords. Both Root & my primary
> > user have no problem logging into the system.
> >
> > Any ideas on how to resolve this problem?
> >
> > Mike
> > --
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From: J Sloan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Crossposted-To: comp.os.linux.admin,comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linux.networking
Subject: Re: apache autostart on boot?
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 07:55:10 GMT
Devon Harding wrote:
> When I do a:
>
> chkconfig --list httpd
>
> I get:
>
> [root@santa /root]# chkconfig --list httpd
>
> error reading information on service httpd: No such file or directory
That simply means there's no standard startup script in /etc/rc.d/init.d
So, you probably installed apache from scratch -
You can put something in rc.local like:
/usr/local/apache/bin/apachectl start
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From: "A.P." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: 3com 3c509b driver
Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2000 04:13:11 -0400
Chipper:
If you know irq and io of 3c509(b) card then try supplying this info by
appending following to the kernel boot command at the end:
ether=irq,io,0,0,eth0
e.g., if irq=5, io=0x210, and you have only one ethernet card then this is
what you supply
ether=5,0x210,0,0,eth0
This should work if you have compiled ethernet drivers in the kernel.
After booting do dmesg | less at the prompt and check if eth0 actually came
up.
AP
"chipper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Thanks Raffael for your input
>
> However it still doesn't work. Whatever I do (which doesn't amount to
> much since I've only got like 3 days since I've begun linux) not a
> single packet gets viewed by the os.
>
> help!!!
>
> TIA
>
> Chipper
>
> On 24 Jul 2000 17:52:33 +0200, Raffael Herzog
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
> >> Micromans,
> >>
> >> Good can you tell me what driver u used? Help would be appreciated.
> >
> >put
> >
> > alias eth0 3c90x
> >
> >in your /etc/modules.conf
> >
> >> [...]
> >
> >
> >--
> >Raffael Herzog
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >May the penguin be with you!
>
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